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Wednesday, May 22, 2019

The New York legislature on Wednesday passed a bill that would make it easier for Congress to get President Donald Trump's state tax returns.

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The legislation, which passed 84 to 53, would amend New York law to permit the commissioner of the state Department of Taxation and Finance to release the state tax returns of those in federal, state and local elected or higher-level public offices, along with entities those people control or have a large stake in, that are requested by the leaders of congressional tax-writing committees.

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#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-22 02:04 PM | Reply

Good news. WTG NY State.

#2 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-05-22 03:00 PM | Reply

LOL, Federal case law already requires a "specified and legitimate legislative purpose" for any Congressional Subpoena to be valid and enforceable so this is merely putting lipstick on the pig.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-22 03:36 PM | Reply

"specified and legitimate legislative purpose"

Looks like that language, which was in the original Senate passed version of the bill, was changed in the Assembly passed version (from link in #1):

Over the weekend, members of the Assembly made several key changes to the legislation originally passed by the state Senate. The bill had allowed for "any" state tax return Congress requested to be provided, language that critics said was too broad and should make any taxpayer in New York state nervous.

The new version of the legislation also changed the purpose for which the returns can be obtained, swapping out "specified and legitimate legislative purpose" for any "legitimate task" of the Congress. Additionally, the bill would now require that New York state redact any federal tax information that might appear alongside#1 state returns.

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-22 03:53 PM | Reply

LOL, Federal case law already requires a "specified and legitimate legislative purpose" for any Congressional Subpoena to be valid and enforceable so this is merely putting lipstick on the pig.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter

How much time have you spent trying to justify a crook hiding his crimes from voters?

#5 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-05-23 12:02 AM | Reply

What crimes, Speaks? Be specific.

Or do you mean, the crimes they're searching for on the fishing expedition. Hoping to catch that trophy whopper.

#6 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-23 12:07 AM | Reply

"What crimes"

Money laundering, tax fraud, and self-dealing from a Charity.

You'd have to have your head waaaaay up your ass to be this ignorant.

#7 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-23 12:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Or do you mean, the crimes they're searching for on the fishing expedition.

#6 | POSTED BY SHEEPLEGHISM AT 2019-05-23 12:07 AM | REPLY|EYE ROLL

You clowns... always going on about "with hunts" and "fishing expeditions"... whine whine whine.

All I have to say is... so what? Who cares?

Call it what you will... as long we keep catching what we are going after... and as long the way we keep busting and convicting...chipping away at the current spate of republicl‡wnery...

its just a matter of time before Trumplethinskin leaves office in disgrace... and all because a bunch of "sore losers" such as ourselves... drove him out of office in disgrace.

It doesn't matter what you call us or how you define what we are doing.

#8 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-05-23 02:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Money laundering, tax fraud, and self-dealing from a Charity.

You left out campaign finance violations and obstruction of justice.

Trump is a criminal, and anyone defending him is a traitor.

#9 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-23 06:53 AM | Reply

"LOL, Federal case law already requires a "specified and legitimate legislative purpose" for any Congressional Subpoena to be valid and enforceable so this is merely putting lipstick on the pig."

It is a perfectly legitimate purpose to determine if the President owes large sums of money to foreign oligarchs. It is ridiculous to pretend otherwise. The American people have a right to know if our President is being blackmailed by foreign oligarchs.

#10 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-23 08:37 AM | Reply

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Federal case law already requires a "specified and legitimate legislative purpose" for any Congressional Subpoena to be valid

What subpoena do you think doesn't meet this very low standard?

#11 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-23 09:22 AM | Reply

These are his state income taxes from New York state. What does Federal law have to do with it?

#12 | Posted by zarnon at 2019-05-23 09:22 AM | Reply

"New York Just Passed Law to Allow Congress to Get Trump's Taxes"

Let me fix that for you to show just how bad this law is.

"New York Just Passed Law to Allow Congress to Get ANYONE'S Taxes"

Liberals made this possible. Liberals also made it possible for a guy in St. Pete to win a case saying putting chalk on his tires goes against his Constitutional rights. This is why faith in the government is so, so bad. Tax money, and a lot of it, are being spent on this. Yet, if there were an actual systemic problem, they would be passing laws to improve IRS audits so that they can identify and flag abuse. Instead, they pass opinionated laws based purely on partisan hate. Instead of fixing a perceived problem, they go after something that is skin deep and does nothing to actually help the situation that people think is a problem.

#13 | Posted by humtake at 2019-05-23 12:07 PM | Reply

#4

The change in language eliminates the potential preemption issues I reference in #3 (same language as Federal law regarding subpoenas issued by Congress) but creates new ones in that it now conflicts with Federal law requiring that prior language.

How much time have you spent trying to justify a crook hiding his crimes from voters?

#5 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-05-23 12:02 AM

See #4, Gal just showed that I was correct, which is why the NY Assembly tried to change the language that I called out in #3.

It is a perfectly legitimate purpose to determine if the President owes large sums of money to foreign oligarchs.

I don't disagree, but the problem lies in the language authorizing Congressional Subpoenas- they must ordinarily have a legitimate "legislative purpose" unless a really good argument can be made that it relates to oversight. That is the issue that Trump is using to ignore many of the subpoenas, which argument is greatly diminished if impeachment proceedings commence.

What subpoena do you think doesn't meet this very low standard?

First, it isn't as low as you may think, look at the lengthy discussion in Judge Mehta's recent opinion where he analyzes each possible request in the Mazur subpoenas for their "legislative" purpose (and on the first category doesn't find one, but buys the oversight argument). Second, I really don't know how the subpoenas are worded, which is why I asked you on the other thread if you had seen them.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-23 12:27 PM | Reply

"Liberals made this possible."

Liberals also made nunchucks legal in New York.

So now you can go Chuck yourself.

#15 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-23 04:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#13 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

did you protest when mCconnell used procedure to deny garland a vote?

#16 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-05-23 09:14 PM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

did you protest when mCconnell used procedure to deny garland a vote?

#16 | Posted by 1947steamer

Of course he didn't!! One set of rules for Dems, but when Trump or Republicans violate the law or long held standards, they're lining up to kiss --- and excuse it all with moronic assertions.

#17 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-23 09:54 PM | Reply

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