Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Wednesday, May 22, 2019

President Donald Trump's latest personal financial disclosure was released Thursday afternoon, showing that Trump, who already owed more money than any other president in history, borrowed millions more in 2018 from a bank whose CEO won a federal appointment months later. The most significant change to Trump's finances may be the addition of the new debt. Trump's various businesses' revenues were mixed, with declines at properties he rarely visits -- as well as at his Mar-a-Lago resort -- but increases at properties like his Washington D.C. hotel. While Trump did add revenue from online sales of branded products and saw increased sales of his bottled water, he recorded declines in areas more central to his business, including commissions earned through his realty firm

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"There's actually a record of banks having a VIP program and treating politically powerful people differently than everyone else. So this is a concern that is well grounded in past practice."

We are done here ....

Look up congressmen that have gotten "loans" ..... have a nice day....

#1 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-22 12:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

Barack Obama was so concerned about the potential appearance of such conflicts of interest that he refused to refinance his Chicago home mortgage to a better rate when many homeowners did so, taking advantage of falling interest rates.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2019-05-22 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Mattress approves of politically powerful people getting special treatment from banks.... especially when they get a plum government job for their effort.

It's all part of the Great Republican Compromise; cater to the wealthy with laws and favors while catering to their poor undereducated proxy voters with fearmongered social policies.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-22 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Because no Democrat got special treatment...EVAR

#4 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-05-22 03:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Wow, this is weird, because the Clintons were broke when they LEFT the WH.

Probably why Hillary stole the furniture.

#5 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-23 01:30 AM | Reply

"the Clintons were broke when they LEFT the WH."

And then wrote bestsellers, and commanded high speaking fees.

Jealous?

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-23 01:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

---- you sheeple.

Rcade, ban this hack piece of ---- already?

Or do you like your site being used as a purveyor of lies and distortions?

If so, axe my user name. I'm tired of this garbage being granted carte blanch to behave on equal footing as fact based opinion.

#7 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 02:56 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#7

Sherp is definitely a troll and a liar.

He dumps on democrats and liberals and deflects and whatabouts for Trump and Republicans.

He's a waste. A Hillary Clinton hating burnout.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-23 03:06 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8 | Posted by ClownShack

And he claimed to be a Bernie supporter.

He's proven he's as far removed from Bernie's stances on issues as Trump is from the truth.

VERY far away.

#9 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-23 03:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

4 of the first 5 posts are whataboutism. Rightwingers are out of ideas. Must be exhausting defending the indefensible.

#10 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-23 06:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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I agree with JPW, this site would be better without that a*****e Sheeple here.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-23 06:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Many people with real estate, such as farmers and other land owners, are worth millions but only have a few dollars in the bank. Most have a line of credit and live off of that until a crop is harvested or a property is sold.

#12 | Posted by jdmeth at 2019-05-23 08:48 AM | Reply

First thing's first: Abel Iglesias should be removed from the Federal Reserve Bank board on which he now sits. As soon as Dem President (insert name here) takes office, Iglesias should be barred from the banking, insurance and securities businesses in the US.

Second: ALL banking activities Trump has undertaken as president should be investigated, with an eye toward unjust enrichment. The banks and bankers should also be held to account--Trump may be a moron, but bankers generally know to deal with politicians VERY carefully, so it does not appear they played favorites with the pol in question, so as to curry favor.

Last: Trump (any any president after him) should obtain pre-approval for all financial transactions in the future, with all planned transactions noted on the appropriate governmental web page, for all to see...

#13 | Posted by catdog at 2019-05-23 09:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Barack Obama was so concerned about the potential appearance of such conflicts of interest that he refused to refinance his Chicago home mortgage to a better rate when many homeowners did so, taking advantage of falling interest rates.
#2 | POSTED BY BORED"

Obama's entire Chicago home purchase was a bribe payment where he paid way under market in exchange for political favors - which is actually a pretty small wrongdoing when compared to the weaponizing for intelligence agencies. That will be his lasting legacy - the black guy that used the government against his political rivals.

#14 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-23 09:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 2

And then wrote bestsellers, and commanded high speaking fees.
Jealous?
#6 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Jelly? LOL

Pay to play? We should all be grateful the never won an election again ....

Notice where thier "pay" is now, now that they have no chance of holding public office.

Clinton Foundation's revenue hit 15-year low after 2016 presidential election
www.opensecrets.org

But I am sure it was all on the up and up....

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-23 09:48 AM | Reply

I agree with JPW, this site would be better without that a*****e Sheeple here.
#11 | POSTED BY DANNI

I like JPW and Danforth when they are drunk or angry can't tell which really, but its fun to read ...

That is the bestest...

#16 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-23 09:51 AM | Reply

used the government against his political rivals.
#14 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-23 09:31 AM

and the press.

#17 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-05-23 10:00 AM | Reply

Tony Rezko.

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-05-23 10:46 AM | Reply

So, now we are on a ban Sheeple brigade?

And you clowns call Trump fascist?

Look in the mirror.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-23 11:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

Obama's entire Chicago home purchase was a bribe payment where he paid way under market in exchange for political favors - which is actually a pretty small wrongdoing when compared to the weaponizing for intelligence agencies. That will be his lasting legacy - the black guy that used the government against his political rivals.

#14 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Debunked.
www.factcheck.org

And Trumps own people have said no spying occurred.

When all you have are lies, you are definitely a Republican.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-05-23 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Of course there was spying, no one denies that. Obama's FBI spied on the Trump campaign.

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-05-23 11:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Trump's a bum. He's always been a bum. He's used to getting bailed out. If it wasn't for Fred's trust fund, he'd be just another low rent racketeer from Queens. Fred always seemed to make money, his boy lost a lot of money.

#22 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-23 11:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

--4 of the first 5 posts are whataboutism. Rightwingers are out of ideas. Must be exhausting defending the indefensible.

Pretty funny. Everyday half of the DR Left denounces "whataboutism" while the other half practices it.

#23 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-23 11:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#21

All presidents and presidential are investigated, constantly.

#24 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-23 11:38 AM | Reply

So, now we are on a ban Sheeple brigade?
And you clowns call Trump fascist?
Look in the mirror.

#19 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Oh boo hoo.

This is a private site, it's hardly fascism to set consistent standards for what's posted here.

There's already a zero tolerance policy for climate denialism, why not apply that equally to posters who spew nothing but dishonesty day in and day out?

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 11:39 AM | Reply

candidates

#26 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-23 11:40 AM | Reply

Fascist? On a web site? RCade is Mussolini? Posters here have been bounced for less.

#27 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-23 11:42 AM | Reply

All presidents and presidential are investigated, constantly.
#24 | POSTED BY LEE_THE_AGENT

Thats what you are going with? Now its a standard .... lets see how that plays out, its bold tactic, and useful until I suppose Trump tries it, then you will lose your stuff.

#28 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-23 11:46 AM | Reply

There's already a zero tolerance policy for climate denialism, why not apply that equally to posters who spew nothing but dishonesty day in and day out?
#25 | POSTED BY JPW

You mean like all the NothingBurgers on "collusion"? Every single Liberal poster here would be banned ....

#29 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-23 11:48 AM | Reply

#16 yeah it's hilarious that you have zero standards.

Being a dishonest hack shows excellent character in your world, I'm sure.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 11:55 AM | Reply

Everything reported about trump connections with Russian intelligence and oligarchs was confirmed true in the report.

But you knew that already, I'm sure. You just can't ever be truthful.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 11:56 AM | Reply

Pretty funny. Everyday half of the DR Left denounces "whataboutism" while the other half practices it.

#23 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

As opposed to 90% of the DR right practicing it...

Here's a hint Nulli, it's wrong and poor thinking in all instances.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 11:58 AM | Reply

--why not apply that equally to posters who spew nothing but dishonesty day in and day out?

All you spew is ad hominem day in, day out, but I won't call for your expulsion become I'm vastly more tolerant and wouldn't want to deprive other posters of your drivel. Use killfiles or shut up already, crybaby. They were implemented for a reason.

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-23 12:00 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

- was confirmed true in the report.

File charges, indict, issue a warrant, use Nancy's handcuffs.

Wait, Mueller had those powers.

#34 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-23 12:12 PM | Reply

All you spew is ad hominem day in, day out, but I won't call for your expulsion become I'm vastly more tolerant and wouldn't want to deprive other posters of your drivel.

Only to those who've earned my contempt.

Don't be a dishonest, lying hack and there won't be any problems.

Also, you don't call for expulsion because you know you've earned it.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 12:18 PM | Reply

File charges, indict, issue a warrant, use Nancy's handcuffs.
Wait, Mueller had those powers.

#34 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

This was addressed in the report.

Which you'd know if you had actually read it.

Or do you know that but want to lie anyways?

#36 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 12:18 PM | Reply

So, Mueller didn't have those powers?

#37 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-23 12:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#28

It's what I'm going with because it's the truth. If you think someone is not constantly watching the POTUS in D.C. you're patently delusional.

#38 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-05-23 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So, Mueller didn't have those powers?

#37 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Idiot.

#39 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-23 01:37 PM | Reply

So, Mueller didn't have those powers?

#37 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Idiot.

#39 | Posted by jpw

Another idiot who won't read the report.

apparently

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-23 04:33 PM | Reply

Of course there was spying, no one denies that. Obama's FBI spied on the Trump campaign.

#21 | Posted by visitor

Liar.

Link or Lie.

Define "spying"

Obama's FBI did NOT spy on the Trump Campaign.

An Investigation authorized by Congress and the DOJ is not spying.

My Campaign for President was conclusively spied on. Nothing like this has ever happened in American Politics. A really bad situation. TREASON means long jail sentences, and this was TREASON!
-- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 17, 2019

Just another lie in a long line of lies. (over 10,000)

The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants were taken out against onetime Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page after he left the campaign, but the warrant applications went through standard processes and were authorized by four judges appointed by Republican presidents. The FBI used information from the Steele dossier to obtain warrants to surveil Page, but it wasn't their only source of information, and law enforcement officials had good reason to be suspicious about Page's contacts and activities in Russia.

www.vox.com

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-23 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Define "spying"
#41 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY"

n. An agent employed by a state to obtain secret information, especially of a military nature, concerning its potential or actual enemies.
n. One employed by a company to obtain confidential information about its competitors.
n. One who secretly keeps watch on another or others.

Check, check, check. You know the Dems have lost when they resort to redefining words - like "Is".

#42 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-23 09:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

"www.vox.com
#41 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY"

"To that end, Trump is now using his social media platforms to unequivocally call for his perceived enemies to be imprisoned for crimes they did not commit."

Well, then the VOX crying can stop now because if they didn't commit crimes, they have nothing to fear from the investigation. Just tell the investigators the truth and you have nothing to worry about.

#43 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-23 11:06 PM | Reply

Check, check, check. You know the Dems have lost when they resort to redefining words - like "Is".

#42 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Great. ----------- is here to regale us with his intelligence and wit.

An investigation conducted by law enforcement isn't spying no matter how hard you try to twist it so that you can justify slurping Trump's knob.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 12:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Just tell the investigators the truth and you have nothing to worry about.
#43 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

LOL what a fascist POS.

#45 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 12:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"redefining words - like "Is"."

Nothing comes close to redefining exonerate.

#46 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 12:49 AM | Reply

"An investigation conducted by law enforcement isn't spying no matter how hard you try to twist it so that you can justify slurping Trump's knob."

What do you call it when we send agents of the CIA and their assets to Russia to collect information? You don't call that spying?

"LOL what a fascist POS.
#45 | POSTED BY JPW"

That is exactly what you and the Left chirped for 2.5 years of Mueller investigation - I wonder what could have possibly changed to have you completely against that now....strange.

#47 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 01:09 AM | Reply

"Nothing comes close to redefining exonerate.
46 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

I assume the loops you will jump through in the next 2 months to explain away the illegal activities does at the direction of the Obama Administration will do exactly that.....right up to your exonerated Deep State agents being locked up in jail.

#48 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 01:11 AM | Reply

"I assume the loops you will jump through"

Speaking of jumping through "loops", did the Mueller Report exonerate Trump, as Trump claimed, or not?

#49 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 01:17 AM | Reply

What do you call it when we send agents of the CIA and their assets to Russia to collect information? You don't call that spying?

Was it the CIA following the Trump campaign?

You have to be a special kind of dumb to think an FBI investigation with solid probable cause is "spying".

There are also some interest ramifications of your mindset. You clearly view the Trump campaign as some sort of foreign party, of a foreign government even? At the very least an enemy or adversary of our own government.

That is exactly what you and the Left chirped for 2.5 years of Mueller investigation - I wonder what could have possibly changed to have you completely against that now....strange.

It's a false equivalency to state that Mueller's investigation is the same as the nonsense 'investigate the investigators' you guys are pushing. You're just spiteful, pathetic people who lash out when your nose gets rubbed in your own pile.

BTW where are your posts pushing for Trump to cooperate with Congressional investigations and tell the truth, release documents ect?

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 01:17 AM | Reply

Deep State agents being locked up in jail.

#48 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

LOL another geriatric poster who spends his days listening to Faux News and pissing himself in the common room of the assisted living facility he's been shoved into by his kids.

#51 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 01:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"right up to your exonerated Deep State agents being locked up in jail."

By when?

Feel free to go on record. I'm sure you'll have changed your handle once or twice more by then.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 01:19 AM | Reply

#48 | Posted by iragoldberg

---- you and your whataboutism, you un-American POS.

ZERO indictments of Obama administration officials. No charges were ever brought over anything. Not a hint of even impropriety.

You don't care about the rule law, the Constitution, a grifter in the WH who even charges SS for rentals of his golf carts ($102,000,000 on his golf so far, after claiming he wouldn't be playing golf), or anyone or anything.

Ya, ---- you. And shove your BS up your sunshine hole.

#53 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 01:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Speaking of jumping through "loops", did the Mueller Report exonerate Trump, as Trump claimed, or not?
#49 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Prosecutors either charge you and prove you are guilty in subsequent trial OR fail to press charges at which point you retain your presumption of innocence. As he was not charged and convicted, under US law, he is innocent and thus exonerated of the charges.

#54 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 01:38 AM | Reply

Just tell the investigators the truth and you have nothing to worry about.

Posted by iragoldberg

You mean like how Trump didn't give his written answers under oath and refused to talk to Mueller because he knew he can't tell the truth for 2 minutes in a row?

You and Trump must have gone to the same Liar University post grad courses.

#55 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 01:39 AM | Reply

"Was it the CIA following the Trump campaign?"

That is the focus of the investigation by Barr. My guess is yes based on the Papadopolous set up.

"You have to be a special kind of dumb to think an FBI investigation with solid probable cause is "spying"."

We already covered the definition of spying - there is no exclusion just because it was done by law enforcement.

"You're just spiteful, pathetic people who lash out when your nose gets rubbed in your own pile.
#50 | POSTED BY JPW"

Look in the mirror -------. That is exactly what you are doing at this very minute.

#56 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 01:41 AM | Reply

"Prosecutors either charge you and prove you are guilty in subsequent trial OR fail to press charges "

Not if you're the President.

But keep jumping through those "loops" while you try again.

#57 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 01:42 AM | Reply

"Ya, ---- you. And shove your BS up your sunshine hole.
#53 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY "

Pump your brakes. You sound completely unhinged. It is going to get a whole lot worse before it ever gets better for your party. Jailing the criminals in the Obama Administration will be a blessing in disguise for you.

#58 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 01:43 AM | Reply

"#57 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Oh, so your issue is with the presumption of innocence. A guilty until proven innocent type of guy. Sorry, that is not the way we do things in the US.

#59 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 01:44 AM | Reply

"We already covered the definition of spying"

We've also covered the reasons for probable cause to investigate the Trump campaign: their failure to follow FBI instructions and inform the FBI if Russians tried to infiltrate or influence.

When you've given those instructions, and further surveillance shows the campaign is ignoring the FBI's instructions, it's time to investigate.

#60 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 01:47 AM | Reply

"Oh, so your issue is with the presumption of innocence. "

No, my issue is the word "exonerate" has a meaning, and it's not what Trump claimed.

But keep jumping.

#61 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 01:49 AM | Reply

"Jailing the criminals in the Obama Administration will be a blessing in disguise for you."

I'd wager you, but no doubt you're a welcher as well.

#62 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 01:50 AM | Reply

I've been following the reporting based on the notion that abuse occurred investigating Trump very closely.

I'm keeping my powder dry until after the IG report is released.

#63 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-24 01:52 AM | Reply

BTW where are your posts pushing for Trump to cooperate with Congressional investigations and tell the truth, release documents ect?

#50 | Posted by jpw

He won't do that because IRA knows Trump is guilty as sin.

But he doesn't care because he's a brainwashed dotard.

#64 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 01:52 AM | Reply

"When you've given those instructions, and further SPYING shows the campaign is ignoring the FBI's instructions, it's time to investigate.
#60 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

FIFY

#65 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 01:52 AM | Reply

#62 Didn't you Welch a bet with Rightisright?

It had to do with Lieberman winning as an independent after he was primaried out several years ago.

I thought that it was you but I could be mistaken about this. It happened a long time ago.

I do know a dude named DCTexan welched RiR on the ‘16 election.

#66 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-24 01:55 AM | Reply

"I'm keeping my powder dry until after the IG report is released.
#63 | POSTED BY JEFFJ "

We already have proven incompatible statements between Comey and Lynch, Comey and Brennan, Comey and McCabe - so, we already have a false statement charges in the bag. The 'lack of candor' on the part of McCabe is what got him fired - lack of candor = lying, and this was directly to the FBI. I think the big bombs will drop with the Bill Priestap trips to London and the Papadopolous set-up. That was sloppy even by government standards. The Italians already cleaned house over this - top people are going down in the US. The only question is how reluctant the Left will be to accept the magnitude of the wrongdoing.

#67 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 01:57 AM | Reply

#65

Fine by me. It was time to investigate.

Let's see if you can be honest: if it was HRC meeting constantly with the Russians, and ignoring FBI instructions, would you want the FBI to investigate? Or "spy"...whatever word keeps you jumping.

#68 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 01:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Didn't you Welch a bet with Rightisright?"

No, not me. And I'd never wager on Lieberman. Nor have I ever welched on a bet in my life.

#69 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 01:59 AM | Reply

"so, we already have a false statement"

What a riot: a Trump voter outraged over a false statement.

Anyone else's irony meter pegging?

#70 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 02:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Let's see if you can be honest: if it was HRC meeting constantly with the Russians, and ignoring FBI instructions, would you want the FBI to investigate? Or "spy"...whatever word keeps you jumping.
#68 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

Let's be real clear here - she did. It was called Uranium One where we have an FBI whistleblower. Next, we had Steele - under contract to her - approach Russians to create the Dossier. Despite this, no FBI agents were inserted into her campaign. Maybe they should have been - maybe not. But, our rights to privacy should never be violated by abusing the FISA court process. Personally, I don't even think the FISA court is constitutional. So, if the same process was used against Hillary, I would be defending her. If Chelsea was set up like they did with Papadopolous, I would be defending her. If Robbie Mook had FISA warrants issued over his talking with Steele - I would be defending him.

#71 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 02:04 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#67 Ira,

I'm aware of all of that. Like I said, I've been following this story very closely for well over a year. Kim Strassel, Andrew McCarthy, Margot Cleveland, John Solomon and others have all written extensively about it.

I listened to "Russian collusion!" for over two years. After an investigative colonoscopy Mueller came up empty on collusion. The bombshells ended up being duds. Well, now bombshells are being teased about the investigators. I'm waiting for the IG report to be released. Once it's released let the chips fall where they may. I took the same approach with the Mueller report.

#72 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-24 02:08 AM | Reply

"...if the same process was used against Hillary, I would be defending her."

Of course you would.

/snark

#73 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 02:08 AM | Reply

#69

Ok. I was mistaken then. I thought that might be the case.

#74 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-24 02:09 AM | Reply

"I listened to "Russian collusion!" for over two years."

So did Junior attempt collusion or not?

"Mueller came up empty on collusion."

Did you skip the part where Mueller concluded the participants in the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians were too stupid to know they were breaking the law?

"I'm waiting for the IG report to be released. Once it's released let the chips fall where they may. I took the same approach with the Mueller report."

You took the exact opposite approach with the TIGTA report on the so-called IRS targeting. The IG stated conclusively neither party was targeted to the exclusion of the other, and the key words to trigger the algorithm had more "lefty" words than "righty" words, including green, progressive, ACORN, and marijuana.

#75 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 02:15 AM | Reply

"It was called Uranium One"

What a riot. "Uranium One" is proof-positive the poster is an idiot, just like "Benghazi", and "Vince Foster".

They're an admission the poster has no idea of the underlying truth. In this case, there were 9 votes, HRC had NONE of them, and the vote was 9-0. It's not weapons-grade Uranium, it doesn't leave the US, and the 9 voting members ALL SAID they'd vote 9-0 AGAIN if the issue came up.

#76 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 02:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The details of the Don Jr meeting were well known long before the report was released. The hype that abounded around the report for two years was that it was going to uncover a criminal conspiracy between Team Trump and Russia. It didn't produce anything remotely close to that and a lot of lefties were flabbergasted.

I'm not going to make the same mistake regarding investigating the investigators.

#77 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-24 02:23 AM | Reply

"It didn't produce anything remotely close to that"

Only because the participants were too stupid to know they were breaking the law. And "no collusion" certainly wasn't for lack of trying.

If there's no money in the bank, just cops waiting when the armed robbers arrive, are they still guilty of attempted robbery?

#78 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 02:28 AM | Reply

Prosecutors either charge you and prove you are guilty in subsequent trial OR fail to press charges at which point you retain your presumption of innocence. As he was not charged and convicted, under US law, he is innocent and thus exonerated of the charges.

#54 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Wow. Talk about pulling a giant one out of your ass...

#79 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:13 AM | Reply

My guess is yes based on the Papadopolous set up.

LOL there isn't a lie you won't swallow for Trump, is there?

We already covered the definition of spying - there is no exclusion just because it was done by law enforcement.

Yeah, it requires the Trump campaign being adversaries or foreign government.

An interesting pile of garbage that says more about your delusions than grasp on reality.

Look in the mirror -------. That is exactly what you are doing at this very minute.

#56 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

"I know you are but what am I"? That's all you've got?

You're hardly rubbing anybody's nose in a pile because all you have is faux news conspiracy theory nonsense.

You're an idiot who probably already bought his $45 Trump prayer coin and another dozen because, by golly, they'll be valuable collector's items some day!

#80 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:17 AM | Reply

Prosecutors either charge you and prove you are guilty in subsequent trial OR fail to press charges at which point you retain your presumption of innocence. As he was not charged and convicted, under US law, he is innocent and thus exonerated of the charges.

#54 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

As you well know by now, you lying dotard, it is DOJ policy that a sitting president cannot be charged with a crime.

However, EIGHT Trump administration officials/cronies have been charged with felonies.

#81 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 03:18 AM | Reply

Sorry, that is not the way we do things in the US.

#59 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

How cute, you're trying to present yourself as being for the rule of law.

It's funny how Trumpers always think everybody else is as dumb as they are.

#82 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:19 AM | Reply

Anyone else's irony meter pegging?

#70 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Mine walked away waving a white flag months ago.

#83 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:21 AM | Reply

"As you well know by now, you lying dotard, it is DOJ policy that a sitting president cannot be charged with a crime.
#81 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

As you well know by now, you lying D-tard, Barr asked Mueller explicitly if this factored into his decision not to charge and Mueller said NO. So, you are either too stupid to understand your own argument or you are just lying for the sake of it...sadly, there is 3rd alternative.

#84 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:25 AM | Reply

After an investigative colonoscopy Mueller came up empty on collusion. The bombshells ended up being duds.

You can't even accurately describe Mueller's findings but expect us to take your opinions seriously on this topic?

Well, now bombshells are being teased about the investigators.

--------. We've been listening to Hannity reveal "bombshell" after "bombshell" that were always, to the T, conspiracy theory nonsense that was forgotten the moment it was revealed to be absurd nonsense (remember FBI secret society, the FBI hiding texts by deleting them...until they were recovered from a technical glitch ect ect).

The right has been smearing the FBI the entire time the Mueller investigation has been ongoing. This BS "investigate the investigators" is an extension of that based on the same conspiracy theories and nonsense. Period.

I took the same approach with the Mueller report.

#72 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Given the constant misrepresentation of the Mueller report findings this isn't exactly the iron clad guarantee you think it is.

#85 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:26 AM | Reply

As you well know by now, you lying D-tard, Barr asked Mueller explicitly if this factored into his decision not to charge and Mueller said NO.

Then why did he go through the trouble of laying out all the reasons why he couldn't charge a sitting POTUS in the vol II intro?

#86 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:27 AM | Reply

#72 | Posted by JeffJ

A. "Collusions" is not a criminal term and can't be charged.

B. Several of Trump's cronies have been charged with felonies, including Manafort for, among other things, passing along stolen voter information.

C. Trump called for Russia to hack computers. The very next day they did.

Trump's too dumb to 'collude' with Russia. He just meets with Putin - without prep or advisors present, unprecedented and very stupid - and knocks our own intelligence services on international TV, dismissing their findings and giving Putin the benefit of the doubt (Helsinki).

Duh

#87 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 03:30 AM | Reply

The details of the Don Jr meeting were well known long before the report was released.

Yeah and Trump -------- spun, deflected, spun some more and blah blah blahed their way to rationalizing it as a nothingberder.

Turns out the reporting was spot on and Don Jr met with representatives of a hostile foreign government who was hacking and attempting to influence the election (which was known at the time of the meeting to the participants) on the promise of dirt on their opponent.

Do you not see how disgusting it is to act like that's nothing because they supposedly got nothing? F---in' s--- dude, open your damn eyes.

#88 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:31 AM | Reply

"The right has been smearing the FBI
85 | POSTED BY JPW "

How many top FBI and Justice Department officials have been fired or demoted as the result of their conduct? Calling attention to that is not smearing, it is just stating the obvious. After a few get locked up, you wailing will become even louder.

#89 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:32 AM | Reply

"Then why did he go through the trouble of laying out all the reasons why he couldn't charge a sitting POTUS in the vol II intro?
#86 | POSTED BY JPW"

You are trying to think and you aren't very good at that. It is not even needed in this case as we have it straight from Mueller - not a factor.

#90 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:33 AM | Reply

You are trying to think and you aren't very good at that. It is not even needed in this case as we have it straight from Mueller - not a factor.

#90 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Says the incessant liar who just dodged what should be an easy question.

And no, it's not straight from Mueller, ------. It's Barr saying that's what Mueller said.

#91 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:36 AM | Reply

"including Manafort for, among other things, passing along stolen voter information."

I thought he was charged purely for financial crimes. Can you link to anything related to 'stolen voter information'?

"C. Trump called for Russia to hack computers. The very next day they did.
#87 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

To find Hillary's lost email that she bleach-bit already months earlier? Maybe you are too dumb to know this, but it is now confirmed through header changes that foreign governments had Hillary's emails already in real time. So, no need for Russians to hack anything - much less hack and engage in time travel.

#92 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:37 AM | Reply

How many top FBI and Justice Department officials have been fired or demoted as the result of their conduct? Calling attention to that is not smearing, it is just stating the obvious. After a few get locked up, you wailing will become even louder.

Strzok got removed for the text message issue. Can't blame him for hating Trump.

McCabe got busted for lying about a leak, not for any misconduct relating to the investigation.

Who else?

#93 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:38 AM | Reply

As you well know by now, you lying D-tard, Barr asked Mueller explicitly if this factored into his decision not to charge and Mueller said NO.

Then why did he go through the trouble of laying out all the reasons why he couldn't charge a sitting POTUS in the vol II intro?

#86 | Posted by jpw

The poster you're responding to is a f-ing moron

#94 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 03:43 AM | Reply

"Strzok got removed for the text message issue. Can't blame him for hating Trump.
McCabe got busted for lying about a leak, not for any misconduct relating to the investigation.
Who else?
#93 | POSTED BY JPW "

Strzok
Page
McCabe
Comey
Ohr
Yates
Baker

for starters. As to the extent of their crimes - well, that is what Barr's investigation will determine. It will lead back to Obama.

#95 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:44 AM | Reply

#92 | Posted by iragoldberg

You're such a moron I'll bet you get punched in the face a lot.

Maybe you have already been too many times.

Something isn't right about you.

For starters, you're a liar.

#96 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 03:47 AM | Reply

It will lead back to Obama.

#95 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

You hope.

Anything to erase his legacy completely, right? Even weaponizing DoJ to do it.

#97 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:47 AM | Reply

"#96 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

Again, pump your brakes. You sound completely unhinged.

#98 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:50 AM | Reply

"Anything to erase his legacy completely, right?
#97 | POSTED BY JPW "

He has a legacy left? Could have fooled me.

#99 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:51 AM | Reply

Strzok
Page

Already listed Strzok. Page was canned for the same reason.

So what.

McCabe

Already covered him.

Comey

Fired by Trump to obstruct the investigation. Not a very good example for the point you're trying to prove.

Ohr
Yates
Baker

Ohr wasn't involved in the Russia investigation and Yates was fired for refusing to enforce Trump's twisted policies.

You're reaching. Throwing mud and seeing what sticks.

In the end all you have is conspiracy theory and partisan bitterness.

#100 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:54 AM | Reply

He has a legacy left? Could have fooled me.

#99 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Good point.

You pathetic hacks have made it such a point of erasing it you've willfully flushed the country down the toilet.

#101 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 03:55 AM | Reply

"#100 | POSTED BY JPW "

You are acting like the investigation is completed. We can talk again in a few months.

#102 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:56 AM | Reply

"#101 | POSTED BY JPW "

Yeah, because the country is worse off now than when Obama was removed from office...

#103 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 03:56 AM | Reply

#98 | Posted by iragoldberg

-- and all the other handles you've posted under here.

You're a liar and a gullible, brainwashed dotard.

#104 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 04:22 AM | Reply

"-- and all the other handles you've posted under here.
You're a liar and a gullible, brainwashed dotard.
#104 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

Again, pump your brakes. You sound completely unhinged. You are not scoring points for your team with this sort of posting.

#105 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 04:24 AM | Reply

And it won't be long before you're giving SNIPER a run for his money for the most plonks.

You know what they are from your previous handles ...

#106 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 04:24 AM | Reply

"#106 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

Serious question - why all the hostility? I have been nothing but civil despite your constant swearing and attacks. Why are you incapable of civilized discussion?

#107 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 04:27 AM | Reply

#105 | Posted by iragoldberg

Oh, my brakes are just fine.

You're an unhinged, lying dotard who needs to be called out on it at every opportunity.

Maybe you'll get lucky and they'll serve you Jello at the home for lunch.

And ask them to give your brain an MRI. You're ridiculously out in right field.

#108 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 04:28 AM | Reply

"lying dotard who needs to be called out on it at every opportunity.
#108 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

Can you link to these lies I am saying? Come down off the ledge and discuss as an adult.

#109 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 04:31 AM | Reply

Serious question - why all the hostility? I have been nothing but civil despite your constant swearing and attacks. Why are you incapable of civilized discussion?

#107 | Posted by iragoldberg

Why? Because you come here an lie your a-- off and act as though that's acceptable. You'll get no respect from me. You've proven you have no character or moral values.

Trump -------- and 'whataboutism' idiots like you who excuse his every misdeed and answer any question about his character/horrible job as president with idiotic deflections demean this country and all we've stood for over 2 centuries.
You are not a positive for this site. Why don't you spend your time at RedState.com?

#110 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 04:33 AM | Reply

"Because you come here an lie your a-- off and act as though that's acceptable.
#110 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

So it should be no trouble linking to these lies. How about you do that and discuss like an adult.

#111 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 04:38 AM | Reply

I prefer to discuss things with adults. You aren't worthy of a discussion.

Trump -------- like you are akin to Hari Krisna cult members.

I'm done talking to you, ever. Sick of seeing your name, lying, traitorous ------- that you are.

#112 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 04:47 AM | Reply

"I'm done talking to you, ever.
#112 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY"

So you were unable to find any lies. Got it. I do hope that you can reflect on your inability to have a civil discussion. It is an alarming trend on the Left.

#113 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 04:50 AM | Reply

I do hope that you can reflect on your inability to have a civil discussion. It is an alarming trend on the Left.

Posted by iragoldberg

I can have civil discussions with sane, moral people from all sides.

You are neither of those.

#114 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-24 05:25 AM | Reply

"I can have civil discussions with sane, moral people from all sides.
#114 | POSTED BY AMERICANUNITY "

Reading through your comment - all evidence points to that statement being a lie. In fact, I will bet that you have lost close friends since the Trump election. The Trump election marked the point when your formerly nice friends that you would invite to BBQ's, etc became disgusting, irredeemable racists, homophobic, sexists that you could not stand to be around. True?

Let me tell you - that behavior/feelings are not normal. Most of my conservative friends hated Obama - they hated how he said "you didn't make that", did the world apology tour, had his wife say she was never proud to be an American until Obama was elected, and did everything he could to divide the US along racial lines while cratering the economy and bombing everyone he could. They thought he was an absolute lying POS - like was yelled at him during his SOTU address (which did turn out to be a lie). And all of this without even knowing now how he corrupted the intelligence services, the IRS, and the Justice Department (Fast and Furious, etc).

And despite all that - I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE ONE THAT STOPPED TALKING TO THEIR LIBERAL FRIENDS OVER IT. That is a uniquely Left thing to do. You are unable to engage in civil debate. In one of JPW's rare moments of sobriety, he actually had arguments to put forth. Unfortunately, the draw of the bottle, needle, or pipe were too much and he reverted to form the next day.

I hope you are able to self-reflect and have that moment of clarity for yourself.

#115 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 07:31 AM | Reply

I hope you are able to self-reflect and have that moment of clarity for yourself.

#115 | Posted by iragoldberg

A damaged pot hoping to find an equally damaged kettle.

#116 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:07 AM | Reply

I DON'T KNOW A SINGLE ONE THAT STOPPED TALKING TO THEIR LIBERAL FRIENDS OVER IT.

#115 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 07:31 AM | Reply | Flag:

Then you don't get out much.

Like it or not, it's the simple truth. Most of the racists, etc., in this country are now Trump supporters.

Trump makes personal use of this fact, so I know you're tight with it.

#117 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:09 AM | Reply

"Then you don't get out much.
#117 | POSTED BY ZED "

ZED - you are clearly a loon. You are so far left and delusional that I think you are just 1 or 2 steps removed from being institutionalized. That said, I am not going to cut you off simply because you have ridiculous political beliefs. That goes for all the people in my life and my circle of friends - I don't know a single one that cut off their friends over support for Obama. Again, that is not normal behavior. I realize you can count your circle of friends with one hand and have multiple fingers left over - how many were conservative and cut off friends over Obama? Be honest - the answer is zero. Just like there were no mass 'scream at the sky' protests during Obama's reign of terror. It is unique to Leftists.

#118 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 08:17 AM | Reply

you are clearly a loon.

#118 | Posted by iragoldberg at

You are clearly a man with more than one handle.

#119 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:19 AM | Reply

I am not going to cut you off

#118 | Posted by iragoldberg

That's a relief. Your posts are mother's milk to me.

#120 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:20 AM | Reply

Just like there were no mass 'scream at the sky' protests during Obama's reign of terror.

#118 | Posted by iragoldberg

You can't be from here. No way in hell.

#121 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:21 AM | Reply

Impeach. Impeach. Impeach.

Impeach while there's still a Constitutional right to do so.

#122 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:22 AM | Reply

"You can't be from here. No way in hell.
#121 | POSTED BY ZED"

Maybe I missed it. Can you link to the mass 'scream at the sky' protest during Obama's terms?

#123 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 08:23 AM | Reply

Impeach before Trump uses deputized soldiers to enforce executive orders.

Impeach while reporters can still publish "secrets"

Impeach before Trump attacks Iran using his power as "Unitary Executive"

#124 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:25 AM | Reply

Impeach before people like SHEEPLE and "IRA" gloat that the dictatorship is good and right, and that furthermore we had it coming.

#125 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:26 AM | Reply

May be I missed it.

#123 | Posted by iragoldber

Nope. It's become inconvenient for you to remember.

You're not a nice man. You're no an American. You squeezed across our borders illegally, by computer.

#126 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:28 AM | Reply

You're one of those people who will start spouting Russian memes here as we approach 2020 elections, just like you did 2016.

#127 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:32 AM | Reply

"Nope. It's become inconvenient for you to remember.
#126 | POSTED BY ZED"

Great, then it should be no trouble for you to provide a link. Are you like AmericanUnity? All piss and vinegar but no links?

#128 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 08:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

All piss and vinegar but no links?

#128 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 08:33 AM | Reply | Flag:

Um, think Tea Party.

Always glad to help a foreigner with recent American history.

#129 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:44 AM | Reply

You're not a nice man, IRA. You're no patriot. You're hoping your Boss will take the gloves off. That tired old Constitution needs SO many modifications.

You're an enemy.

Plain enough?

#130 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 08:46 AM | Reply

"Um, think Tea Party.
#129 | POSTED BY ZED"

Yeah - I remember the Tea Party. Never once do I remember something like this: www.youtube.com

And that is a tame one...

#131 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 09:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Let's be real clear here - she did."

Thanks for admitting you'd be investigating the Democrat, but not the Republican.

You're officially part of the problem.

#132 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 09:45 AM | Reply

"#132 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

#133 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 09:48 AM | Reply

"Do you have a reading comprehension problem?"

No. Do you have an intelligence problem? I asked if you'd investigate HRC, and you launched into an elaborate YES.

You'd investigate the Democrat, but give the Republican a pass.

YOU ARE THE PROBLEM.

#134 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 09:51 AM | Reply

If the Democrats have any balls they will open debates against Trump with one uniform message, "You are a fracking loser".

But they don't, do they won't.

#135 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-24 09:52 AM | Reply

"You'd investigate the Democrat, but give the Republican a pass.
#134 | POSTED BY DANFORTH "

How you get that as your takeaway from my statement:

"So, if the same process was used against Hillary, I would be defending her."

is beyond me. Like I said to AmericanUnity - let's try to have a civil discussion. No need for you to lie and and try to twist my stated position. So, with that as the ground rules, please continue.

#136 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 10:02 AM | Reply

"How you get that as your takeaway from my statement
"So, if the same process was used against Hillary, I would be defending her.""

Easy. You're a liar. I asked if, based on the same set of circumstances, you'd be investigating HRC. You launched into an elaborate lie about Uranium One, basically admitting you're woefully ignorant on the subject, but you'd investigate HRC anyway.

#137 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 10:10 AM | Reply

"I asked if, based on the same set of circumstances, you'd be investigating HRC. "

Yes - you asked that and I answered "So, if the same process was used against Hillary, I would be defending her." Maybe the 3rd time reading it will help it sink in this time.

"You launched into an elaborate lie about Uranium One, basically admitting you're woefully ignorant on the subject, but you'd investigate HRC anyway.
#137 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Uranium One is a completely different scenario - we have money moving into the Clinton Foundation and then approval of this deal. I still hold out hope that the FBI will finally listen to the whistleblower and investigate her on this. As far as Russian election interference - no, I don't see any evidence of that on her part other than having Steele work with the Russians. Thus, no - she should no be charged over election collusion with the Russians. Comey, Clapper, Brennan - different charges. This was lying to Congress and the FISA court - they should be investigated.

#138 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-24 10:23 AM | Reply

In one of JPW's rare moments of sobriety, he actually had arguments to put forth. Unfortunately, the draw of the bottle, needle, or pipe were too much and he reverted to form the next day.
I hope you are able to self-reflect and have that moment of clarity for yourself.

#115 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

Funny how you guys write it off with this excuse every time.

Here's a ------- not the case.

When one engages an individual and regularly is met with lies and distortions that are nearly verbatim from right wing "news" sources it's not easy to spot the root cause of the incivility.

Try behaving in good faith some time. You'd be surprised how people respond.

#139 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 11:15 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

lies and distortions that are nearly verbatim from right wing "news" sources it's not easy to spot the root cause of the incivility.
Try behaving in good faith some time. You'd be surprised how people respond.

#139 | POSTED BY JPW FLAG:LOL

The majority of "news" sources, both left and right, have become biased opinionated pundit platforms.

behaving in good faith - LMAO!

On the DR? Every point made is radically exaggerated off the deep end and then piled-on by the angry hysterical mob.

No rational discourse is even possible in this environment. I've tried, but the responses are just pure political propaganda.

#140 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-24 11:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

"we have money moving into the Clinton Foundation and then approval of this deal."

9-0. HRC's rep had ONE vote. How did they bribe the other eight?

And "money moving into the Clinton Foundation"?!? That's your basis for skulduggery? A transparent charity???

#141 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-24 11:37 AM | Reply

No rational discourse is even possible in this environment. I've tried, but the responses are just pure political propaganda.

#140 | Posted by SheepleSchism

You are an amazing hypocrite, IRA.

#142 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 11:41 AM | Reply

Posted by SheepleSchism

You're one of those people who will start spouting Russian memes here as we approach 2020 elections, just like you did 2016.

#143 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 11:42 AM | Reply

Great Recession happened because millions of Americans aren't good at managing money. Over a decade later, those same people put someone else on blast for not being able to manage his money. Lovely country.

#144 | Posted by humtake at 2019-05-24 11:57 AM | Reply

Barack Obama was so concerned about the potential appearance of such conflicts of interest that he refused to refinance his Chicago home mortgage to a better rate when many homeowners did so, taking advantage of falling interest rates.

#2 | Posted by bored

But he wasn't so concerned that he wouldn't take a quarter acre side yard as a gift from a convicted felon next door.

*yawn*

#145 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-05-24 11:57 AM | Reply

If only RCade would restore search access to the DR thread archives for 24 hours...

#146 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-05-24 12:00 PM | Reply

"But he wasn't so concerned that he wouldn't take a quarter acre side yard as a gift from a convicted felon next door."

Jarred Kushner's father?

Trump's former fixer?
His former campaign manager?
The list keeps growing.

#147 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-24 12:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- spouting Russian memes...just like you did 2016

#143 ZED

Exactly what I said above. You're all in for hyperbole and propaganda. You and others fueled by Dem friendly media promote a narrative that all dissenting opinions are Russian memes, and you just keep repeating the lie. The intention is disinformation and gaslighting, and it's coming from you.

Americans are fed up with the conspiracy. You and your corrupt party will be exposed and defeated.

#148 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-24 12:25 PM | Reply

#148 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Just telling what you did, son.

Sucks to be you.

#149 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 12:30 PM | Reply

#148 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Hell, you were advancing Russian memes prior to the 2018 elections.

#150 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-24 12:32 PM | Reply

No rational discourse is even possible in this environment. I've tried, but the responses are just pure political propaganda.

#140 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

LOL and you wonder why I treat you with nothing but contempt.

I'm guessing whoever NW flagged it is in the same boat with you-dishonest hacks who think "civil discussion" means acceptance of the false reality they try to peddle.

#151 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

JPW,
I agree with sheep in that every point is exaggerated or taken to an extreme.
People are nazis, or gun lovers, or open borders, or racists, etc right off the bat. There is no seeing both sides or considering how stupidly extreme a position is.
Even if you start that way within 3 posts you'll be attacked by both sides for a point you never made, or for a post you made last week.

#152 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-05-24 12:44 PM | Reply

--LOL and you wonder why I treat you with nothing but contempt.

No one gives a damn about your "contempt," crybaby.

#153 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-24 12:45 PM | Reply

Americans are fed up with the conspiracy. You and your corrupt party will be exposed and defeated.

#148 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

YOUR party? Finally admitting you are not and never were a Dem?

#154 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 12:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#152 i agree and would add the labeling of a lot of people as Russians or paid posters.

Sometimes it's done out of humor but usually it's meant seriously.

However, sheeple making that point is like a serial killer bemoaning the lack of pro life ideas being posted.

It's just another way he can try to put the other side in a negative light without any regard to his own behavior.

#155 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 12:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No one gives a damn about your "contempt," crybaby.

#153 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Considering you earned it by being a dishonest, lying hack that comes as no surprise.

You have to have enough integrity to value honesty for somebody's contempt to matter to you.

#156 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-24 12:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

back on topic:

The president's sister, Maryanne Trump Barry, a former federal judge, who retired in February, in order to end a judicial ethics investigation into the Barry family's finances. It was reported that Trump's sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, had purchased Barry's property for $18.5 million. However, the orange sloth controls the company behind the transaction. Land records show that the value of Trump's newest loan was $11.2 million, from Abel Iglesias of Professional Bank in Florida.

The investigation began after four complaints claimed the Trump family had engaged in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s. Inactive senior judges, like Barry, continue to receive their salaries until they retire. Instead Barry will receive an annual pension, estimated to be between $184,500 and $217,600.

Since then, the property has been listed for rent, first for $100,000 per month then discounted to $81,250, but never rented.

Abel Iglesias, was subsequently appointed to the board of directors of the Miami branch of the Atlanta Federal Reserve in January. This appointment flew under the radar while Herman Cain and Stephen Moore were rejected.

Trump has the ability to withdraw money at any time from a revocable trust he formed after being appointed by the electoral college. Democracy and the rule of law are being undermined as Trump continues to flaunt tradition and law while pursuing wealth and power. But, real power remains in the hands of the money lenders, whom Trump is beholding to.

#157 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-24 11:50 PM | Reply

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