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Wednesday, May 22, 2019

The New York Assembly passed a bill on Tuesday that closes the "double jeopardy" loophole, permitting state authorities to prosecute someone who receives a pardon from the president. The vote was 90-52.

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Important to Trump's inner circle is that the bill is not retroactive. The law would not apply to anyone who has been tried already or entered a plea -- like former chairman of the Trump campaign Paul Manafort or Michael Cohen, Trump's former attorney. They already have protection from further prosecution for the same behavior. Both are now serving federal prison sentences.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-21 11:44 PM | Reply

Since it is not retroactive (and I don't know enough about NY law to opine as to whether it is constitutional in the State of NY) I can see the Law of Unintended Consequences rearing its ugly head down the road.

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-21 11:58 PM | Reply

The pardon bill allows for the prosecution at the state level of any individual who was employed by or served in the executive branch, served in a position subject to Senate confirmation, or worked for a presidential campaign or transition team, regardless of whether they had been pardoned or granted clemency by the president under which they served. It would similarly allow prosecution of presidential relatives regardless of pardon.

"This new law will confront any president -- not just this one -- who thinks he or she can get away with washing away illegal behavior," said Democratic Assemblyman Joe Lentol, the bill's primary sponsor. "New York state, when it affects our state, will not tolerate that."

www.cnn.com

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-22 12:23 AM | Reply

#3 Feel free to change the rules. don't try to change them back when it suits the #team.

#4 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-22 01:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"don't try to change them back when it suits the #team."

No problem, there has never been a Democratic administration which committed the types of crimes as the Trump crime family. Pretend all you want but this is a good idea to prevent scoundrels from escaping justice.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-22 07:02 AM | Reply

The party of unintended consequences strikes again. How long before this snake turns around and bites its owner?

#6 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-22 08:18 AM | Reply

The party of unintended consequences strikes again. How long before this snake turns around and bites its owner?

#6 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-0

On the other hand, how many times have we already been bitten by Trump the Snake?

#7 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-22 08:28 AM | Reply

There are pros and cons to this law, but it's not an unprecedented:

FYI:

Twenty-four states already have laws making it clear that presidential pardons do not cover state charges, according to Sen. Todd Kaminsky, D-Long Island and the bill's Senate sponsor.

apnews.com

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-22 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"but it's not an unprecedented" should be "but it's not unprecedented"

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-22 11:31 AM | Reply

#3

That limitation may violate the Equal Protection Clause if it is worded that way.

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-22 12:34 PM | Reply

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#8

You are comparing apples and oranges, this has nothing to do with pardons for state charges per se.

#11 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-22 12:35 PM | Reply

I can see the Law of Unintended Consequences rearing its ugly head down the road.

Yes, the next time we elect a New York criminal president they might actually have to pay for their crimes. I'm ok with that.

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-22 01:07 PM | Reply

Unintended consequences? Try not being a criminal

#13 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-22 05:14 PM | Reply

#12

Good point...next time we see "Manhattan Businessman/Mogul/Philanthropist etc"., just say no.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-22 08:52 PM | Reply

#13

If you know anything about the history of Tammany Hall, you would know that this will hurt the NY Dems much more than the GOP in the long run. My guess is that Cuomo will ultimately realize that and not sign it.

#15 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-22 08:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So then it's a good thing, right?

Why are the usuals suddenly concerned for the legal safety of Democrats?

Odd

Or maybe not

Desperate more like it

#16 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-05-22 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So much effort expended to hate Trump. I guess one consolation is that Democrats have something to do.

Haha. Trump is creating jobs for democrats. Democrat unemployment is at an all time low. Pulling together. Locking arms. Hating Trump.

Lawyers cashing in on the Trump gold rush. Hate media and advertising are making it rain.book deals for out of work FBI chiefs. CNN intelligence experts with no security clearances have the latest bombshell to hurt Trump.

Haha. Business has never been better. You're the wind beneath their wings.

#17 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-22 09:35 PM | Reply

Poor Avenatti. Sidelined from all the fun because hes a thief. Zed almost nominated him for president.

#18 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-22 09:38 PM | Reply

Sheeps screed reminds me of that congressional huckster making the rounds pimping his book exploiting the military in an effort to shut up farmers being hurt by trumps loosing trade war

#19 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-05-22 09:56 PM | Reply

I believe that pesky "ex pro facto" principal of law trumps New York's legislation. Besides,all the pardoned individual has to do is not return to the state of New York. It is very doubtful that another state would honer extradition on these grounds.

#20 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-23 07:19 AM | Reply

Double jeopardy is an outdated concept.

#21 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-05-23 09:50 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#21 | Posted by visitor_ Yea, lets dump a couple of thousand years of legal principal so that your political opponents can feel your need to see a prosecution. If you think about it for a minute, the law can cut both ways. The government in Albany could change.

#22 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-23 03:40 PM | Reply

Trump wouldn't pardon criminals would he? If not, what is all the fuss about wingdings?

What happened to drain the swamp?

#23 | Posted by bored at 2019-05-23 04:32 PM | Reply

Speaking about Double Jeopardy, how about that James Holzhauer? What an amazing run he's having!

#24 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-23 04:49 PM | Reply

#23 | Posted by bored, If you saw a man raping a little boy, what would you do? That is the situation one of the accused faced. He killed the SOB.

#25 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-05-24 06:09 AM | Reply

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