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Monday, May 20, 2019

Fred Kaplan: President Donald Trump's plan to pardon several servicemen and contractors charged with war crimes provides further proof that the commander in chief knows nothing about the basic workings of the U.S. military.

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The sad thing is he's probably right to some extent, just like when he attacked prisoner of war veterans who got caught.

#1 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-05-20 08:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Perhaps, but how will this set with the senior officers of the service? It's rumored that he's even going to intervene in cases which have not yet been adjudicated by the Judge Advocate General's Corp (AKA JAG Corp). This means that he's basically usurping the authority of the military, and while it's true that as 'Commander in Chief', the President is the civilian head of the military in this country, these are not the type of actions taken by a president, but then when has Trump ever stuck to accepted protocol in the past...

Anyway, I suspect that this will not sit well with the Pentagon nor the heads of the various services. I'm not even sure that it will be received all that well by the rank and file of the services.

OCU

#2 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-05-21 12:35 AM | Reply

Evangelicals love their Trump and his un-Christian ways. Most of them will be voting for him again.

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-21 04:03 AM | Reply

Probably?
Well "probably" Joe will caress AOC's can during a debate.

#4 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-05-21 05:52 AM | Reply

"The sad thing is he's probably right to some extent, just like when he attacked prisoner of war veterans who got caught."

You're as psychotic as he is.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-21 06:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You people wake up more stupid each day...

Trump is talking about his cult. He expects the low browed in the military, like BOAZ, and the militia to give him "street credit" for pardoning those "brothers-in-arms" arrested for being "patriots in the cause."

You see if, in his warped mind, if the grunts rebel, he has no need for senior members of the current armed forces. All he has to do is "fire" the current leadership and "field commission" new generals and so forth.

This is exactly what Hitler did when he created the Nazi party. He "field commissioned" a sea of nobodies to pseudo-high ranking military positions. For example, Goebbels was merely an author with a doctorate in philosophy (a ----- degree even by today's standards) when Hitler made him Propaganda Minister of the Nazi Party. All on the account of hating Jews as virulently as Hitler himself. Stephen Miller fits perfectly in this description.

I hope you learned something new, ya bunch of apes.

#6 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-05-21 07:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#6

You're simplifying it a little. Hitler created the SS as a paramilitary organization that answered only to him. Later, the SS was expanded to include a military wing, the Waffen SS, that fought alongside regular army forces. But in general, the regular forces (particularly the Luftwaffe) hated the SS forces. Much of it for the reasons you describe-they tended to be low-brow soldiers recruited for thier political beliefs. That didn't really sit well with officers raised in the Prussian tradition.

AT the same time, the Waffen SS disliked the regular forces, regarding the officers as the elitist remains of an aristocracy that had no place in the 3rd Reich.

#7 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-05-21 08:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Had Hitler not micromanaged the war effort, Germany would have likely been able to end the war on favorable terms, if not achieved outright victory. His lack of military prowess was one of the allies greatest advantages in the war.

#8 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-05-21 08:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

And this tells you everything you need to know about what Trump thinks about the Armed Services.

#9 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-05-21 11:26 AM | Reply

'Had Hitler not micromanaged the war effort, Germany would have likely been able to end the war on favorable terms, if not achieved outright victory.'

Poppycock.

#10 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-05-21 11:28 AM | Reply

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This again? I just proved a few days ago that every President makes questionable pardons throughout their Presidency. So why bitch about it now? Do you really have so little to do that you have to be hypocritical by choice?

#11 | Posted by humtake at 2019-05-21 12:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#11 War crimes is a special issue.

#12 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-21 12:51 PM | Reply

I'll bet he thinks Mi Lai was a great " victory".

#13 | Posted by zelkova at 2019-05-21 08:57 PM | Reply

Whoo the bias is palpable. The war crimes indicated happen because the soldier becomes too emotionally hardened or traumatized, which happens easily in the battlefield and something every soldier can understand, if still acknowledging that the action was f'ed up. This is why the military loves Republicans, they have historically done more to support and empathize with issues that occur outside of our cushy city playpens.

#14 | Posted by dialate at 2019-05-22 07:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The war crimes indicated happen because the soldier becomes too emotionally hardened or traumatized

--------. The acts described do not "just happen," and his fellow SEALS who have been through everything he has were the ones so mortified by his behavior that they reported him.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-22 07:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

@14 I'm curious what your position on molesters who were themselves molested.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-05-22 08:11 AM | Reply

My oath of enlistment in the USAF expired precisely six years after I made it. I have an Honorable Discharge to show for it. I have NO present obligation to support and defend the United States of America. I have come to believe Republicans are, as a rule, criminals worthy of arrest and prosecution. Aiding and abetting criminals is a criminal act, and I won't be party to any crimes. If I get a chance to help prosecute criminal politicians, I will jump on it!

#17 | Posted by john47 at 2019-05-22 09:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is why the military loves Republicans, they have historically done more to support and empathize with issues that occur outside of our cushy city playpens.

#14 | Posted by dialate at 2019-05-22 07:49 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive | Newsworthy 1

Donald Trump has no empathy for working people, which is what soldiers are. And now we have the Party of Trump.

The modern Republican Party might pretend to have sympathy for veterans for as long as veterans say the right things or just keep their mouths shut. Otherwise they go after them with razors. Not even honorable war wounds is protection.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-22 09:45 AM | Reply

In this country, guilt and innocence is determined by a judge and jury. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), however, covers all acts while under the oath of enlistment, and guilt or innocewnce is determined by a panel of officers and alleged gentlemen and gentlewomen.

#19 | Posted by john47 at 2019-05-22 09:53 AM | Reply

So many little coincidences:

Maggie Haberman @maggieNYT

Hadn't realized till today that Marc Mukasey is repping Eddie Gallagher, Navy SEAL charged with murder - Mukasey also represents Trump in his fight involving congressional subpoenas of his banking records.

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-22 02:28 PM | Reply

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