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Sunday, May 19, 2019

Vice President Mike Pence used a Saturday commencement address at Taylor University to urge a religious resolve among the Christian school's graduates and faculty, dozens of whom walked out minutes before Pence began speaking.

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Well, that does make them an easier target.

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#1 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-05-19 04:05 PM | Reply

Lately, it's become acceptable, even fashionable, to malign traditional Christian beliefs.

Women are property. Homosexuals are living in sin. Shellfish is poison. Garments of mixed linen are blasphemy. People of neighboring nations can be sold as slaves. Hair cuts are an affront to god. Virgins can become pregnant. Rape is God's will.

Thing is. What are traditional Christian beliefs? They don't exist in Evangelical Christians or amongst the Baptist.

Those bastard branches of the religion are straight indoctrination and control.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-19 04:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

#2 Shellfish are not poison, sir.

#3 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-05-19 04:27 PM | Reply

It doesn't take much imagination to mock rwing traditionalists hypocrite "Christians".

Real ones do it all the time.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-19 04:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"to malign traditional Christian beliefs...."

"...of inequality, and the subjugation of women."

At least be honest, bro.

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-19 04:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Kill Some Pissants for Jesus

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#6 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-19 04:52 PM | Reply

Maybe they should have a Christian pride parade.

#7 | Posted by bored at 2019-05-19 05:08 PM | Reply

There are actually a lot of people who are agnostic that might stand up for ideals of the original teachings of JC.

The ones who want to parade for the Prosperity Gospel and worship Supply-Side Jesus are what turn many of them off.

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-19 05:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#7

Like a Christmas parade?

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-19 05:18 PM | Reply

#8

People should focus on these two:

[39] And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

[1] Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?


Way too much judgment and hate in the world.

(Don't need anyone pointing out any hypocrisy of what I said and what we do here on the DR)

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-19 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Our pastor today started out slapping around hypocritical religious pissants who made a big deal out of a singer of popular Christian songs appearing on the Ellen Degeneres show because, "OMG, she's gay!"

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2019-05-19 05:45 PM | Reply

I love it how whiny they are.

You can't run for office in this country without professing yourself a Chreestian yet they're the persecuted ones...

Sure Pence, you creepy looking moron.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-19 06:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Clown,

"And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. "

You left off the first part.

Jesus answered "What are the 2 greatest commandments"

First, "Love God with all your heart, soul and mind".

And second "love your brother as yourself."

Do you feel the first part has any connection to your life or do you just like to take verses out of context?

(psssst.....Christians take verses out of context too to make a point)

#13 | Posted by billjohnson at 2019-05-19 07:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Clown,

"For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged"

That's a really good one and I don't think people really ponder on it's meaning too much.

Funny how judgement works.

For example, people like to say we should forgive people when they do things awful to them.

Really?

Did that person ask for forgiveness? Did that person feel remorse? Did you person even acknowledge they did anything wrong?

If yes....well...you have the option to forgive them.

Here's the catch.

If you forgive someone who never felt remorse or believed they were wrong, you have to judge them first.

Tricky...tricky...tricky...

You said "way too much judgement in the world".

Are you judging people to make that statement? Are you qualified to judge others?

Again...tricky...tricky...tricky...

Back to your verse you listed.

The measuring stick you hold up to others, will be held up to you.

Judging is a tricky thing from a Biblical point of view.

Last line...

Certainly forgiving other people is good for your soul and not hold grudges, but not judging them in the process is tricky...tricky...tricky...

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-05-19 08:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I like christmas 'cause I get presents..
but I'm confused..
Was it Santa or Jesus that the liberals crucified?

#15 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-05-19 10:29 PM | Reply

"#2 Shellfish are not poison, sir."

They are forbidden in Leviticus...mainly due to anaphylactic shock.

And who knew from refrigeration?

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-19 10:34 PM | Reply

Boy. Just look at all the Romans in the Colosseum.

"Release the lions!"

*thumbs up*

#17 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-19 10:49 PM | Reply

Pence mixed his message with politics. That's what the protesters were upset about. Trump and Pence use people's faith to enact a political agenda designed to gain power and money.

#18 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-19 10:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"There are actually a lot of people who are agnostic that might stand up for ideals of the original teachings of JC."

I'm an atheist and have little problem with the ideals of JC, just not buying the son of god thing. Modern "Christians" would probably crucify the guy if he came back a second time. Hell, Trump acts a lot like how the Antichrist would be expected to act and "Christians" seem to love his schtick.

#19 | Posted by dibblda at 2019-05-20 01:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Future speakers at commencement ceremonies will be limited to, 'You're all graduated!'

#20 | Posted by sunuvavitch at 2019-05-20 08:01 AM | Reply

Well, that does make them an easier target.
I approve of this message.

#1 | POSTED BY HELIUMRAT AT 2019-05-19 04:05 PM |

Inciting violence again like a good Christofascist

#21 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-20 08:29 AM | Reply

If God is all-powerful he/she/it doesn't need Mike Pence, or me, or anyone else to fight God's battles.

#22 | Posted by anton at 2019-05-20 10:17 AM | Reply

Headline is misleading, suggesting the comment initiated the walkout. Not true: It was Pence being announced.

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-20 10:22 AM | Reply

Certainly forgiving other people is good for your soul and not hold grudges, but not judging them in the process is tricky...tricky...tricky...

#14 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Is Mike Pencil dick gonna forgive all their student loans??

That would be good for his soul. Don't know if it is enough to cancel his debt to humanity but it would be a good start.

Lying for Trump is gonna cost a lot.

Or perhaps Gawd will pay their student debts. Though I hear the Almighty has trouble with money, too.

#24 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-20 10:59 AM | Reply

If God is all-powerful he/she/it doesn't need Mike Pence, or me, or anyone else to fight God's battles.

#22 | POSTED BY ANTON AT 2019-05-20 10:17 AM | REPLY | FLAG

God is all powerful and all knowing, but he can't make his own money. He needs yours.

#25 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-05-20 11:27 AM | Reply

If God is all-powerful he/she/it doesn't need Mike Pence, or me, or anyone else to fight God's battles.

#22 | POSTED BY ANTON AT 2019-05-20 10:17 AM | FLAG:

Many of you keep confusing "need" and "want."

All Mighty God doesn't NEED anything.
He WANTS our hearts, our worship, our money (to feed the poor, to expand His Kingdom, which Christians do, statistically).

Read Genesis 3: he WANTS us to say "no" to Satan, he WANTS us to monkey-stomp Satan. Hold my communion cup and watch this!

#26 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-05-20 12:11 PM | Reply

Jesus said "love your enemies and pray for them."

For those Pence haters here, I dare you to try it.

Maybe it'll change your hatin' heart.

#27 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-05-20 12:13 PM | Reply

He WANTS our hearts, our worship, our money (to feed the poor, to expand His Kingdom, which Christians do, statistically).
Read Genesis 3: he WANTS us to say "no" to Satan, he WANTS us to monkey-stomp Satan. Hold my communion cup and watch this!

#26 | POSTED BY DRIVELIKEJEHU AT 2019-05-20 12:11 PM | REPLY

God sounds like a deadbeat dad. I feed my kids out of the finite resources I have. Meanwhile, the Creator of the Universe lets millions of his kids starve. If my kid sustains an injury, I do everything I can to get medical treatment for him/her. God has the power to end childhood cancer instantly and doesn't do it. Plus, my kids don't even have to "worship" me for me to be nice to them.

#28 | Posted by anton at 2019-05-20 01:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14 | Posted by BillJohnson

The namesake of Christianity, Christ, said "Judge not that ye be not judged" and other statements that say, specifically, it is not your place to judge others for their 'sins' or transgressions against you.

"Forgive us out trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us."

Bill, so-called "Christians" like you are the reason I will never darken the door of an evangelical church ever again.

How about you just quit calling yourself a 'Christian' and find something more suitable?

How about "Torquemadian?"

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-20 01:46 PM | Reply

Pence is a "Torquemada Christian"

Very little of the bullsiht he and other evangelicals espouse is based on what the namesake of Christianity, whose teachings the religion is supposed to be based on, said.

The principles Christ taught are those of compassion, generosity, and love in action towards 'the least of these,' not the hateful, fire and brimstone, burn 'em at the stake Old Testament BS Pence and others like him espouse.

#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-20 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Meanwhile, the Creator of the Universe lets millions of his kids starve"

Do you understand how it works with humans?
WE are the ones entrusted with taking care of our own children until the age of 18!

Don't put this on God -- if there is a starving child, that child's parents are the ones to blame!!!

#31 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-05-20 05:17 PM | Reply

Either everything is part of god's plan in which case we are imprisoning millions of Americans who were just following their fate as prescribed by the plan or humans are not part of gods plan and can do whatever they want.

Which is it? Do we open the prisons or stop using god's plan as an excuse for horrible things done by christianists?

#32 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-20 05:35 PM | Reply

Jehu,

What about starving orphans? Does Gawd get off the hook for letting them die? Why did he let their parents die knowing that they had to rely upon their parents for food? What about the kids who get leukemia or suffer sexual assault? Why does the Almighty not intervene to help?

Your God seems like a weak, self-centered jerk.

Are you a Trump fan?

#33 | Posted by anton at 2019-05-20 08:13 PM | Reply

American,

"Christ taught are those of compassion, generosity, and love in action towards 'the least of these,"

Well...that and repent for your sins or be condemned to hell for all eternity when you're dead.

But I guess that's a little much so we'll just skip that one.

#34 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-05-20 08:29 PM | Reply

American,

You way you word it, Jesus is no different than the founder of most other religions.

Love...compassion...etc. etc. etc.

Sort of like buying Greatest Hits cds.

Just the good stuff.

#35 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-05-20 08:33 PM | Reply

Getting flagged funny is so much better than getting flagged newsworthy.

Newsworthy means you're preaching to the choir.

Funny means someone is trying to make light of something serious.

Or it really was funny but I'm not much of a comedian.

#36 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-05-20 08:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Jehu,

What about starving orphans? Does Gawd get off the hook for letting them die? Why did he let their parents die knowing that they had to rely upon their parents for food? What about the kids who get leukemia or suffer sexual assault? Why does the Almighty not intervene to help?

Your God seems like a weak, self-centered jerk.

Are you a Trump fan?

#33 | POSTED BY ANTON AT 2019-05-20 08:13 PM | REPLY

Anton,
Do we place ALL things under God's responsibility?
I'm pretty sure that all of the cases you mention above had a HUMAN BEING in charge and that human (usually a parent) failed to do their job!

As an evangelical Christian, I am pretty safe saying Trump probably doesn't fit the definition of our group.

Trump and Hillary were awful.

#37 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-05-21 01:35 AM | Reply

Have you not heard Jesus' warnings about parents and custodians who don't take care of the young ones in their care?!

#38 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-05-21 01:36 AM | Reply

#37 You misspelled 'where'.

#39 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-05-21 02:54 AM | Reply

JEHU

I grew up in evangelical Christianity. Been to some evangelical churches in the past few years. Problem is, I'm a 'red print' Christian who believes following what the namesake of the religion taught, not your f-ed up version that ignores most of what Christ taught for your own convenience. Don't hear much about the message of Jesus at evangelical churches. Except about His crucifixion. To quote Trump, "that I can tell you!" Y'all ignore almost everything Jesus taught, conveniently using the Old Testament or something Paul said to justify NOT doing what Jesus taught.

Oh, and evangelical 'Christians' and their Republican politicians stick up for fetuses, aka "babies," but don't give two craps about them once they're born. Nope. You yourself vote for politicians who give riches via tax breaks to the already rich and at the same time defund school lunch programs, women's health clinics, seek to take away health insurance for millions and never gave it to millions in red states in the first place. PRO-LIFE? F you and your kind, hypocrites!

Is your church offering free day care to struggling families, paying for clothing, school, food, health care or any other needs for anyone not in your congregation? Didn't think so. Can't be bothered with the heathen sinners, now can you? Nope. Have to stick with your own kind.

Take your evangelical "Christianty" (the one y'all practice without the Christ in it .. except for his crucifixion) and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Read Matthew 25: 31-45 again. You hypocrites besmirch the name of Jesus and aren't going to be with Him when you die. All of you are going to Hell. Turned you life over to Christ? What a crock of BS! Y'all don't hardly do a thing He taught.

#40 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-21 03:47 AM | Reply

#35 | Posted by BillJohnson

Those WERE His 'greatest hits.'

You and your Republican politicians are going to hell. Matthew 25: 31-45 is quite clear about it.

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-21 04:33 AM | Reply

Anton,
Do we place ALL things under God's responsibility?
I'm pretty sure that all of the cases you mention above had a HUMAN BEING in charge and that human (usually a parent) failed to do their job!
As an evangelical Christian, I am pretty safe saying Trump probably doesn't fit the definition of our group.
Trump and Hillary were awful.
#37 | POSTED BY DRIVELIKEJEHU AT 2019-05-21 01:35 AM | REPLY

So god isn't all knowing and omnipotent then?

Either he chose not to help people or he can't. Which is it?

#42 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-21 09:43 AM | Reply

Is your church offering free day care to struggling families, paying for clothing, school, food, health care or any other needs for anyone not in your congregation? Didn't think so.
-American unity

Actually, yes we do.
Bigger churches do a lot more.
Your accusations are pathetic.

You have no idea what evangelical Christians and their churches give, evidently.

#43 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-05-21 10:43 AM | Reply

To hear some liberals tell it, what makes you a Christian is how you spend your money.

Just look at these posts and others I've seen. Money money money money money.

You guys are as obsessed with money as the money Christians who believe God wont bless people unless He gets paid.

#44 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-05-21 11:27 AM | Reply

Your soul is worth more than any amount of money.

With who have you aligned your soul?

#45 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-05-21 11:29 AM | Reply

You people who pretend to speak for some fictional deity crack me up. Humans attempting to pass the ramblings of so called religious texts that were written by other humans as history, simply to exert control upon other humans.. You all should be thrown to the bin of obscurity. Please produce one word that you can prove as the direct word of your deity. Otherwise, keep your fantasy books off in the fictional section where they belong. It's time to stop counting blind faith as logic. Your imaginations have muddied the paths of humankind and history for long enough.

#46 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-05-21 12:05 PM | Reply

It's time to stop counting blind faith as logic. Your imaginations have muddied the paths of humankind and history for long enough.
#46 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Not that I disagree, but without religion, civilization would not have been possible. Even more so, without the protestant ethic, capitalism would not have panned out the way it has (i.e., in America's favor).

#47 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-21 12:58 PM | Reply

#43 | Posted by drivelikejehu

You're full of ----. Evangelical churches here charge over $1000 a month for daycare, 9-3:30 is $850 a month.

Like I said, take your version of 'Christianity' and stick it where the sun don't shine.

PS - I live in Nashville, the buckle of the Bible belt, home to oodles of megachurches

#48 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-21 01:48 PM | Reply

#43 | Posted by drivelikejehu

What's the name of your church? Location? I'm willing to verify your claim they offer free day care, pay for clothing, school, food, health care or any other needs for anyone not in your congregation.

You should have no issue providing that information since it isn't a request for your personal information.

Bet you're full of ----. There isn't an evangelical church within 2000 miles of me that does.

They only provide lip service and votes for Republicans because of fetuses and the gheys.

Speaking of the gheys, the minister of a local megachurch announced he'd perform a gay wedding. He lost his church and his wife. Jesus loves everyone? Not according to them.

#49 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-21 02:44 PM | Reply

#2 Shellfish are not poison, sir.

#3 | POSTED BY RussiaRat

No one claimed that. You missed the point as usual Ruskie.

#50 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-21 06:37 PM | Reply

To hear some liberals tell it, what makes you a Christian is how you spend your money.

Just look at these posts and others I've seen. Money money money money money.

You guys are as obsessed with money as the money Christians who believe God wont bless people unless He gets paid.
#44 | POSTED BY Comrade Bill Johnson

What would Jesus say about you projecting your sins onto others?

Keep it up Bill, and you will be headed on the elevator going down when your time here on earth ends. Might want to stock up on sunblock son!

#51 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-21 06:42 PM | Reply

#43 | Posted by drivelikejehu

Ya, I thought you were full of crap.

#52 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-05-21 10:40 PM | Reply

Clown,

#2.

If you're going to point out how the list of sins makes it difficult to not sin, how about this.

If you marry a divorced woman you have committed adultery.

If you look at a woman with lust you have committed adultery.

One of the most common verses used to condemn homosexuals dooms both homosexuals and adulterers to damnation.

I've personally always believed both gays and straights are sinners and thus why the message of Jesus matters.

That being said I defend the right of churches to continue to teach what is Biblical sin and why you need to believe in Jesus Christ.

Not defending that right makes you anti-America and unpatriotic.

#53 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-05-22 01:13 PM | Reply

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