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Friday, May 17, 2019

On the campaign trail, Trump told us over and over that he'd hire only the best people to serve him, but his choices just haven't worked out well for him or for the country.

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The U.S. Ethics Office just rejected Mnuchin's 2018 financial disclosure statement because he sold his stake in a movie production company to his girlfriend and then married her, which kind of defeated the divestiture concept.

The next tier of cabinet members have not fared any better. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross also had his 2018 financial disclosure statement rejected. In March, a federal judge ruled that Ross had acted in "bad faith" and broke several laws related to his job overseeing the U.S. Census. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke and Environmental Protection Agency administrator Scott Pruitt have both resigned in disgrace. Zinke faced federal probes into his "travel, political activity and potential conflicts of interest," while Pruitt's sins are too extensive to list.

Trump has plowed through two Homeland Security secretaries. He promoted John Kelly to be his chief of staff, but fired him from that position after learning that Kelly had called him "an idiot" on multiple occasions. He fired Kirstjen Nielsen for being insufficiently cruel to asylum seekers, but not before her cruelty to asylum seekers made her a household name.

Trump's first Health and Human Services secretary lasted 231 days before he was forced out over his extravagant travel habits. His first Secretary of Veterans Affairs was fired after thirteen months for the same reason. Then Trump briefly tried to get Ronny "the Candyman" Jackson confirmed as his Vets secretary before it became clear that a drunk and abusive man known for tossing around prescription medications like the Easter Bunny wasn't going to make the grade in the Senate.

On the campaign trail, Trump told us over and over that he'd hire only the best people to serve him, but his choices just haven't worked out well for him or for the country.

Ya think?

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-05-17 12:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The worst president appointing the worst cabinet.

Sounds right.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-05-17 01:01 PM | Reply

The book Everything Trump Touches Dies does a fantastic job of chronicling the unmitigated disaster that was/is his cabinet.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-17 03:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"James Mattis, said Trump had the understanding of a "fifth or sixth grader"

As do most of his supporters.

Sniper, I just gave you a compliment.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-17 03:58 PM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 1

#3

As I have said since election day, Trump never thought he would win so did little or no transition planning prior to winning...and this was the result.

#5 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 04:03 PM | Reply

So... never thinking he would win lead Trump to appoint a gang of crooks? I don't follow. How does not believing that you are going to win result in then going out and hiring the most corrupt and incompetent group of people you can find?

#6 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-05-17 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It makes sense if you understand that businessmen (and women, like Betsy DeVos and Ivanka Trump) who would consider working for a guy like Trump are all crooks and lowlifes to begin with.

Tillerson and Mattis perhaps the only two exceptions. Both strong leaders in their field, but they could only stand the stink and corruption for a few months.

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-17 04:14 PM | Reply

#6

Most candidates have transition teams in place, vetting appointments and backgrounds, for 4-6 months prior to Election Day. Trump didn't name his transition team until 2 days after the election. Because they had done no work, they looked around the room and just started appointing people without any regard as to their qualifications.

#7

Pretty much spot on, people forget that SecState and SecDef were among the last appointments that Trump made, and as you note even they had their limits as to how much of Trump they could stand.

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 04:26 PM | Reply

Trump sold his cabinet seats to the highest bidder.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 04:37 PM | Reply

Was anyone really surprised that Trump didn't have a well of DC insiders and Beltway wheeler-dealers to draw from? Despite the fact that he won the GOP slot, he had alienated every member of the party and RNC. I still think it's funny how Dem's spun this as CHAOS!!

Despite the wobbly start and multiple re-starts, Trump has managed to propel his agenda, against resistance from both sides, and all while not destroying the country or any other country - so far.

Yeah, he's a fat orange obnoxious slob with policy I disagree with, but all the investigations, dire warnings, and crisis declarations have made the town criers look like fools.

#10 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-17 04:39 PM | Reply

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Trump has managed to propel his agenda, against resistance from both sides,

Yep, he managed to give himself a tax cut. Hoorah!!

all while not destroying the country or any other country

He isn't destroying this country with his hateful rhetoric?

any other country

He's got Iran in his crosshairs.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 04:56 PM | Reply

- He isn't destroying this country with his hateful rhetoric?

All of the hate rhetoric, ALL of it, is coming from the Trump-hater media

and echoed on social media, and sites like this.

#12 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-17 05:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 1

"All of the hate rhetoric, ALL of it, is coming from the Trump-hater media"

pocahontas.

do i really have to dig up the video of trump calling immigrants animals? You're a real dumb ------------, sheep.

#13 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-17 05:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

All of the hate rhetoric, ALL of it, is coming from the Trump-hater media

Come on dude. At least pretend to try.

Trump literally campaigned on hate and spews it every time he's at a podium making a speech.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 05:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

All of the hate rhetoric, ALL of it, is coming from the Trump-hater media

Posted by SheepleSchism

Liar.

#15 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-17 05:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

All of the hate rhetoric, ALL of it, is coming from the Trump-hater media
and echoed on social media, and sites like this.
#12 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM AT 2019-05-17 05:26 PM | FLAG: | NEWSWORTHY 1

HAHAHA! Might want to reconsider the definition of "all."

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-05-17 05:42 PM | Reply

#13

Actually, he more specifically described MS-13 gang members as animals, but carry on.

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 05:44 PM | Reply

--do i really have to dig up the video of trump calling immigrants animals?

do I really have to explain to you liars for the umpteenth time that he was talking about the MS-13 gang?

#18 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-17 05:47 PM | Reply

Oh, look at the hate pouring in.

#19 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-17 05:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Oh, look at the hate pouring in.

#19 | Posted by SheepleSchis

Do your part by not posting.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-17 05:49 PM | Reply

Donald Trump is a nasty man. Someone really wants to debate that?

#21 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-17 05:50 PM | Reply

do I really have to explain to you liars for the umpteenth time that he was talking about the MS-13 gang?

They are never going to believe you or me, but the Usual Idiots of the DR Left loves them some Snopes:

Claim

Donald Trump called undocumented immigrants "animals," just as Adolf Hitler called Jewish people "animals."

Rating: Mixture

About this rating

What's True

Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party consistently described Jewish people as animals.

What's False

Neither of the quotes offered in a popular meme featuring Hitler and Trump was a literal one, and Trump's quote more specifically described MS-13 gang members as "animals."

Did Trump Echo Hitler by Calling Undocumented Immigrants ‘Animals'?

#22 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 05:52 PM | Reply

#17&18.

You stupid Trumpublicans will throw yourself on anything to protect Donnie Dimwit.

June 16th 2015:

DONALD TRUMP: When do we beat Mexico at the border? They're laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically.

The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.

Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we're getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They're sending us not the right people.

It's coming from more than Mexico. It's coming from all over South and Latin America, and it's coming probably -- probably -- from the Middle East. But we don't know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don't know what's happening. And it's got to stop and it's got to stop fast.

www.realclearpolitics.com


RoC&Nulli: He obviously means MS 13.

You guys are nucking futs.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 05:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#22

You're really pathetic with your bullshht.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 05:55 PM | Reply

Donnie --------- attacked Obama for being a Kenyan Muslim for 8 years in a row.

Who would have thought he'd be a racist?

But, maybe Trump meant Obama was part of MS13, RoC? Nulli? You guys fielding these for your boy Donnie, right.

Please. Trumpsplain it for us.

#25 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 05:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Oh, look at the hate pouring in.

#19 | Posted by SheepleSchism

I have noticed that if you don't say hateful things it can't be reflected back at you.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-17 05:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#23-24

Alex was referencing the "quote" where Donnie Little Hands supposedly called immigrants "animals", Snopes says that is false.

Sorry pointing that out upset you so much.

#27 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 06:00 PM | Reply

All of the hate rhetoric, ALL of it, is coming from the Trump-hater media
and echoed on social media, and sites like this.

I think I see where the problem is.

Please define "hateful rhetoric".

#28 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-17 06:00 PM | Reply

--They are never going to believe you or me, but the Usual Idiots of the DR Left loves them some Snopes:

It's utterly hopeless. I give up. No matter how many times these lies are debunked, some lying moron will repeat them a day or a week later.

#29 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-17 06:01 PM | Reply

#27

Alex was responding to --------- claim that all hate rhetoric is coming from the media and Trump is a victim.

Try comprehending what your responding to instead of being a troll.

#30 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 06:04 PM | Reply

It's utterly hopeless. I give up.
#29 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Quitting the DR? Awesome.

While you're at it, move out of California.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 06:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

RoC&Nulli: He obviously means MS 13.
You guys are nucking futs.

Wrong quote, from Snopes:

The quotation attributed to President Trump was both inaccurate and left out the full context behind his remarks, which referred to undocumented and deported migrants convicted of crimes.

What was not evident from much of the news coverage of the event was that the president made his comments immediately after Fresno County Sheriff Margaret Mims conveyed her frustrations at what she presented as a historical lack of intelligence-sharing capabilities between the federal Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and local law enforcement agencies, with an emphasis on identifying and locating undocumented immigrants who have been convicted of crimes or are suspected of having committed crimes.

According to a White House transcript, Mims referred to "bad guys" and specifically named the violent criminal gang MS-13 immediately before President Trump's "animals" remarks (although MS-13 started in the United States and has many American citizens among its ranks):

Mims: Now ICE is the only law enforcement agency that cannot use our databases to find the bad guys. They cannot come in and talk to people in our jail, unless they reach a certain threshold. They can't do all kinds of things that other law enforcement agencies can do. And it's really put us in a very bad position.

Trump: It's a disgrace. Okay? It's a disgrace.

Mims: It's a disgrace.

Trump: And we're suing on that, and we're working hard, and I think it will all come together, because people want it to come together. It's so ridiculous. The concept that we're even talking about is ridiculous. We'll take care of it, Margaret. We'll win.

Mims: Thank you. There could be an MS-13 member I know about -- if they don't reach a certain threshold, I cannot tell ICE about it.

Trump: We have people coming into the country, or trying to come in -- we're stopping a lot of them -- but we're taking people out of the country, you wouldn't believe how bad these people are. These aren't people, these are animals. And we're taking them out of the country at a level and at a rate that's never happened before. And because of the weak laws, they come in fast, we get them, we release them, we get them again, we bring them out -- it's crazy. The dumbest laws -- as I said before -- the dumbest laws on immigration in the world.

The day after his initial "animals" remarks, President Trump clarified on NBC that "I'm referring, and you know I'm referring, to the MS-13 gangs that are coming in":

#32 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 06:06 PM | Reply

#32

Hahahahaha!!

Yea. I get it.

Trump is your boy and he's the best!

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 06:08 PM | Reply

Try comprehending what your responding to instead of being a troll.

Back at ya, I was responding to this:

do i really have to dig up the video of trump calling immigrants animals?

#13 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2019-05-17 05:31 PM

#34 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 06:08 PM | Reply

I can always tell when FFMCS feels cornered because he reverts to really poor strawman mode.

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 06:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

While you're at it, move out of California.
#31 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

You're off topic. That's not allowed here.

Neither is hate.

#36 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-17 06:12 PM | Reply

Please define "hateful rhetoric".
#28 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

An immigration policy is not hateful rhetoric, racism, or xenophobia.

That hasn't stopped the haters from manufacturing a thread into an entire garment.

...that doesn't exist.

#37 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-17 06:15 PM | Reply

RoC.

I love when you call me your made up names.

Really makes me feel good to know you've got sand in your --------.

#38 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 06:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

--Quitting the DR? Awesome.

While you're at it, move out of California.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack

Yeah I will. Talking to people like you is like talking to 6th graders with ADD. I lose IQ points every time. Fortunately I have more to spare than you have in total.

#39 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-17 06:18 PM | Reply

I lose IQ points every time.

Explains why you're a Trump supporter.

#40 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 06:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Good news for the day?

"Quitting the DR?"
#31 | Posted by ClownShack

"Yeah I will."
#39 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

#41 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 06:21 PM | Reply

Trump never thought he would win so did little or no transition planning prior to winning...and this was the result.

I don't think he'd have done any better with planning.

#42 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-17 06:22 PM | Reply

do I really have to explain to you liars for the umpteenth time that he was talking about the MS-13 gang?

#18 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-05-17 05:47 PM | REPLY

who is he talking about when he reads "the snake" at his dime stores hitler rallies?

think hard.

#43 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-17 06:39 PM | Reply

I love when you call me your made up names.

You'll have to thank Lee for that one, I have to give credit where credit is due.

But when you get worked up it is oddly appropriate.

#44 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 07:46 PM | Reply

I don't think he'd have done any better with planning

Agree 100%.

#45 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 07:47 PM | Reply

You'll have to thank Lee for that one, I have to give credit where credit is due.

You might as well blame Bigfoot.

You're the only one to ever use that specific phrase and the first time you did everyone called you out on it

But when you get worked up it is oddly appropriate.
#44 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

I love getting worked up. It makes you fumble all over yourself.

Trump is the king of hateful rhetoric. Despite your insistence otherwise.

#46 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 07:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Lee the Bigfoot?

He must have changed his name again.

#47 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-17 08:19 PM | Reply

Leave the jokes to the comedians and don't quit your day job.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-17 08:22 PM | Reply

Minority rule has been with us for most of our lives.

#49 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-18 10:06 AM | Reply

Trump Assembled the Worst Cabinet in US History
At least is will go down as having been a Cabinet.
-mic drop-

#50 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-05-18 12:48 PM | Reply

"Was anyone really surprised that Trump didn't have a well of DC insiders and Beltway wheeler-dealers to draw from?"

What are you talking about?

Jeff Sessions.
Betsy DeVos.
William Barr.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-18 01:14 PM | Reply

The book Everything Trump Touches Dies does a fantastic job of chronicling the unmitigated disaster that was/is his cabinet.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ

Better than hillary though right?

#52 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-05-19 01:19 AM | Reply

Trump wasn't talking about ms13. Read his statement.

#53 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-19 01:23 AM | Reply

It is - historically bad for the globalists and MIC. No new wars and he soundly defeated ISIS through proxies vs. sending huge amounts of US troops. He made peace more likely with N. Korea and stayed out of new conflicts the globalists want like Venezuela. Yes, he was horrible for the establishment - but, his economic and anti-war records speak for themselves. Best president since the founding father.

#54 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-19 03:21 AM | Reply

Is it opposite day Ira?

#55 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-19 09:18 AM | Reply

Best president since the founding father.

There's a zero percent chance this is a sincerely held belief.

#56 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-19 09:24 AM | Reply

True believers put Trump ahead of Washington.

#57 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-19 09:25 AM | Reply

If Nullifidian were to quit the DR that really would be a good day. He is consistently the most dishonest poster here since Goatman left. This place is frustrating enough with the stupid people. Lying trolls like Nulli almost make it a waste of time to come here.

#58 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-05-19 01:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#58 that's the goal. Jam the signal with constant noise. Often the same noise over and over again.

#59 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-19 01:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--almost make it a waste of time to come here.

Here's what you do. You click on my name, and then click "add to killfile." Problem solved

You're welcome.

#60 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-19 01:54 PM | Reply

Doesn't really solve the problem.

Most people here don't even have an account, so plonking doesn't work for them.

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-19 02:02 PM | Reply

Nulli, I just think a lying p-o-s troll like you is a cancer. Plonked or not, you spew nothing but jaded dishonesty. Long ago you made it clear that you refuse to take an affirmative position on any issue or candidate. The only thing you do is spew negativity about whatever topic any majority supports.

#62 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-05-19 02:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

-- Plonked or not

So you'll keep crying salty tears, rather than plonk me. Got it.

#63 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-19 02:23 PM | Reply

Most people here don't even have an account, so plonking doesn't work for them.
#61 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

True. Like Snoofy's followers, who gather to learn from his mastery of debate.

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-19 02:23 PM | Reply

The only thing you do is spew negativity about whatever topic any majority supports.
#62 | POSTED BY MODER8

'majority' - LOL

There's like 18 regulars here. It's a dive bar.

Go shoot some pool or throw darts. Pabst draft is on sale.

#65 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-19 02:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I have snoofy plonked. Unlike crybaby8, I don't whine about other posters, just plonk them.

#66 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-19 02:27 PM | Reply

The worst part about your troll act is that many casual readers of the DR don't realize your schtick and find themselves arguing with you or, even worse, agreeing with you. As I said above, you are a cancer. I do know that some readers consider there to be an entertainment value to your negativity. I just find it to be among the very worst aspects of this site.

#67 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-05-19 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I have snoofy plonked. Unlike crybaby8, I don't whine about other posters, just plonk them.
#66 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Don't look now buttercup, but you just did what you claimed you don't do.

Also. When it comes to crowing about their plonk list, RoC is in a league of his own.

#68 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-19 02:48 PM | Reply

--When it comes to crowing about their plonk list, RoC is in a league of his own.

He's smarter than me. I only have two people plonked. But the good news is, there's room for more! lol

#69 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-19 02:51 PM | Reply

He's smarter than me.

Clearly.

😘

#70 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-05-19 02:54 PM | Reply

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