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The U.S. is withdrawing all non-emergency government employees from Iraq as tensions continue to mount between Washington and Iran, amid allies' warnings that war could break out inadvertently if concrete steps towards de-escalation are not taken.

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The U.S. is withdrawing all non-emergency government employees from Iraq as tensions continue to mount between Washington and Iran

Here comes wag the dotard.

#1 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-05-15 07:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Trump dismisses fears of war with Iran. Therefore, there will be war.

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-15 08:09 AM | Reply

This is like the very first "Terminator" movie, when Kyle Reese turns on all the machinery to confuse what's pursuing him.

#3 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-15 08:10 AM | Reply

As for the Party of Trump:

When Donald said peace, they were for peace.

When Donald said war, they went.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-15 08:16 AM | Reply

Another big show based on lies to justify more war. It keeps your mind off more important matters like Medicare for all and can rejuvenate the economy if it leads to war. The people who it will destroy don't matter.

#5 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-15 08:54 AM | Reply

Elizabeth Warren 2020. She had the guts to be the first candidate to openly call for impeachment.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 09:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Russia must be feeling the pain from oil prices again. Time for Trump to stir up trouble in the middle east to jack them back up so Putin doesn't go bankrupt.

#7 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-05-15 10:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"As for the Party of Trump:
When Donald said peace, they were for peace.
When Donald said war, they went.
#4 | POSTED BY ZED"

I am for Trump but 100% opposed to war with Iran. In short, you are delusional in assigning positions to his supporters.

#8 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 11:05 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

When will it be time for the Trumpers to start calling those of us totally opposed to war with Iran traitors? 5,4,3,2,1.......

#9 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 11:08 AM | Reply

"I am for Trump but 100% opposed to war with Iran. In short, you are delusional in assigning positions to his supporters."

It was as predictable as sunset, how can anyone support a man so willing to start an unnecessary war where real people will die? That's literally crazy!

#10 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 11:10 AM | Reply

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War against majority Muslim nations has been going on since 2002. As I recall, that's 5 terms-- 2 Democrat and 3 Republican.

#11 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-05-15 11:12 AM | Reply

"War against majority Muslim nations has been going on since 2002. As I recall, that's 5 terms-- 2 Democrat and 3 Republican."

Dems haven't invaded under a pretext of lies. Sorry didn't happen. Both sides just are not the same.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 11:18 AM | Reply

"Dems haven't invaded under a pretext of lies"

But they still invaded. And a lot of innocent people lost their lives as a result. And it only served to strengthen the influence of the military industrial complex and overall security apparatus in this country.

#13 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-05-15 11:22 AM | Reply

"But they still invaded. And a lot of innocent people lost their lives as a result. And it only served to strengthen the influence of the military industrial complex and overall security apparatus in this country."

No they didn't invade, they used air power to prevent Ghadafi's forces from murdering thousands of people. I just don't play these games, Neither Clinton nor Obama never started a war except to defnd the population of a country. You can pretend all you want I just don't care.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 11:39 AM | Reply

Cue the "fiscal conservative" and "pro life" party telling us why it's a good idea to waste American lives and another few trillion in the middle east.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-15 11:50 AM | Reply

"I just don't play these games"

Interventionist actions of our government (both sides) that result in the deaths of thousands of innocents aren't "games", Danni. You can make all the apologia you want for the Obama administrations actions in Syria, Libya, Yemen, and elsewhere. You make all the excuses for the continuation of perpetual warfare under the Obama administration that has brought us to this point. As a non-partisan and independent thinker, I'm not buying the excuses and apologia-- whether it comes from the mouths of enemies or friends.

#16 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-05-15 11:58 AM | Reply

Dems haven't invaded under a pretext of lies. Sorry didn't happen. Both sides just are not the same.

But they certainly voted for it, 81 in the House and 29 in the Senate. Here are the current Dems in both the House and Senate who voted yes on the AUMF to invade Iraq:

House-

Sanford Bishop (GA-02)

Ted Deutsch (FL-22)

Eliot Engel (NY-16)

Gene Green (TX-29)

Steny Hoyer (MD-05)

Ron Kind (WI-03)

Nita Lowey (NY-17)

Stephen Lynch (MA-08)

Carolyn Maloney (NY-12)

Bill Pascrell (NJ-09)

Collin Peterson (MN-07)

Adam Schiff (CA-28)

Brad Sherman (CA-30)

Adam Smith (WA-09)

Senate-

One Congressman is now in the Senate - Ed Markey (D-MA).

Maria Cantwell (D-WA)

Tom Carper (D-DE)

Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 11:58 AM | Reply

Rightocenter, you will continue to be a complete hypocrite for highlighting the other party's culpability while at the same time gaslighting when it comes to the culpability of your own.

#18 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-05-15 12:01 PM | Reply

"I am for Trump but 100% opposed to war with Iran. "

Your statement is contradictory. Make up your mind Tovarich.

#19 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-05-15 12:08 PM | Reply

In short, you are delusional in assigning positions to his supporters.

#8 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 11:05 AM | Re

I'm one of those who think some percentage of Trumpists can be peeled away from Trump. I'd increasingly include farmers in that group.

I've always thought Trump's rock-bottom support was about %19, and that %19 percent, there's something wrong with them. So, yeah. They'll support the new war they thought they wouldn't get with Donald and they'll do so happily, many through an Oxycontin haze.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-15 12:10 PM | Reply

#18

That was a specific response to Danni's continued denial that there were plenty of Dems that voted for the AUMF, nothing more.

#21 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 12:11 PM | Reply

I've always thought Trump's rock-bottom support was about %19, and that %19 percent, there's something wrong with them.

I'm thinking more like 25-30%.

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-15 12:15 PM | Reply

You know, guys like this:

twitter.com

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-15 12:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#19-- I can explain it-- Some (but definitely not all or even close) Trump supporters have serious internal cognitive dissonance issues.

Those that don't are basically just strands in the fasces of the monolithic cult of Trump. They are just partisan bots groveling for a tender morsel of toejam from the outlines of Herr Donald's footprints.

#24 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-05-15 12:18 PM | Reply

Some Democrats were honestly fooled by Bush's lies, they realized their error later and most admitted it. At that time Colin Powell was completely respected, few thought he would help to tell a lie. The biggest mistake made was by Nancy Pelosi when she said "impeachment is off the table." It should have been a given that they would impeach once they knew Bush lied us into war.
It should be a given if Trump tries to do the same thing today.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 12:19 PM | Reply

The sheer stupidity comes through in that image Joe.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 12:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What even is the Trump administration's rationale for using military force in Iran?

Does anyone know?

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-15 12:23 PM | Reply

What even is the Trump administration's rationale for using military force in Iran?

Does anyone know?

#27 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-05-15 12:23 PM | FLAG: Not sure what "using military force in Iran" has taken place with the possible exception of projecting military power [a display of force].

#28 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-05-15 12:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What even is the Trump administration's rationale for using military force in Iran?"

Same as Bush, Bush 1, Reagan, Nixon. War time Presidents get reelected. Bush said exactly that to his biographer when he was still Gov. of Texas. Republicans use wars for political purposes. Democrats do not no matter who tells you different.

#29 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 12:34 PM | Reply

Not sure what "using military force in Iran" has taken place with the possible exception of projecting military power [a display of force].

So you don't know either, and would rather quibble.

#30 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-15 12:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What even is the Trump administration's rationale for using military force in Iran?
Does anyone know?

#27 | POSTED BY JOE

Ask Corky, he's the resident warhawk. I think it goes something like this:

"There's a dictator aligned with Russia in charge!"
"Yadzuki women being subjugated on a hilltop!"
"Women and children gonna die!!"
"They hate the gays!"

Corky was so stoked to attack Damascus, I expect he'll lead the charge against Iran.

I would expect him also to support the running of AK47's through a third country, maybe Libya.

They're a democracy now, and enjoying freedom. Corky will tell you the story.

#31 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-15 12:41 PM | Reply

But they certainly voted for it, 81 in the House and 29 in the Senate. Here are the current Dems in both the House and Senate who voted yes on the AUMF to invade Iraq:
House-
Sanford Bishop (GA-02)
Ted Deutsch (FL-22)
Eliot Engel (NY-16)
Gene Green (TX-29)
Steny Hoyer (MD-05)
Ron Kind (WI-03)
Nita Lowey (NY-17)
Stephen Lynch (MA-08)
Carolyn Maloney (NY-12)
Bill Pascrell (NJ-09)
Collin Peterson (MN-07)
Adam Schiff (CA-28)
Brad Sherman (CA-30)
Adam Smith (WA-09)
Senate-
One Congressman is now in the Senate - Ed Markey (D-MA).
Maria Cantwell (D-WA)
Tom Carper (D-DE)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)

#17 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-05-15 11:58 AM

96 dems and 10 Rs signed a letter calling for the repeal of the AUMF

Its easy to play games using a vote based on false information to pretend they would have voted the same if they knew the facts

#32 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-05-15 02:17 PM | Reply

Too much John Bolton. He is looking for a trigger so he'll have an excuse to shoot at something. If the US gets into a military clash with Iran, the people of America need to organize massive protests. Such arrogance. And yeah, I know, America's done it before. I was against all of it. At least in previous clashes we didn't have history's most unfit human in the White House. Iran would be no pushover either.

#33 | Posted by cbob at 2019-05-15 02:28 PM | Reply

When the lies were discovered, full withdrawal was in order.

Both parties' presidents continue the US presence there every day.

The exodus of people into Europe was a result of the US involvement in the region.

We need to get out of all other nations, close the bases, end foreign aid, and get our home in order.

#34 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-05-15 02:29 PM | Reply

"Too much John Bolton."
#33

John Bolton is to war what my dog is to snausages.

#35 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-05-15 02:38 PM | Reply

The Great Deal Maker once again fails completely.

Has he succeeded ANYWHERE in Foreign Policy?

When Obama left, Iran was 10 years from building a nuke (according to Israel!) and we had inspection rights.

Under Trump, they are less than a year away and we have no inspection rights.

Great job, idiots.

#36 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-05-16 05:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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