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Tuesday, May 14, 2019

Attorney General William Barr has chosen Connecticut US Attorney John Durham to probe the origins of the Russia probe, acquiescing to President Donald Trump's new mantra: "investigate the investigators."

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Barr is not messing around.

The IG report is due in a few weeks.

I expect it to be very illuminating.

It will either show that these other investigations by Barr, including the appointment of Durham, to be well-warranted or political revenge for the Mueller investigation and "Crossfire Hurricane."

The latter is more likely but if it's the former, grab some popcorn because it will make for great political theater.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 09:56 AM | Reply

If Barr finds wrong doing you can full well to hear it from Fat Nixon over and over.

If Barr finds that nothing wrong occurred we will never see the report and Fat Nixon will still cry about wrong doing over and over.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-05-14 10:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#1 yes, he is "messing around" in that he's weaponizing the DOJ for Trump.

You should be ashamed of cheering for this.

#3 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-14 10:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You should be ashamed of cheering for this.

#3 | POSTED BY JPW

I'm not "cheering for this."

My take on this hinges on the IG report.

If it's a complete and absolute dud then I will be condemning this.

If the report is "scorching" as Barr has stated, then I will be cheering this.

For 2+ years we were lectured that if Trump did nothing wrong then we should all welcome the Mueller investigation. Okay, fine. That works both ways though.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 10:19 AM | Reply

how cute that you believe anything barr says at this point.

#5 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-14 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If the report ends up 'scorching', YOU should cheer this.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 10:20 AM | Reply

#5 Again, I'm waiting for the IG report.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 10:21 AM | Reply

#2 | Posted by Nixon

If Mueller had actually found anything, he would have shouted it from the top of every mountain in in America.

"No collusion, no obstruction".

Also I don't really think you are actually Nixon - he was more cunning when it came to politics.

#8 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-05-14 10:31 AM | Reply

My take on this hinges on the IG report.

Will you read it? Because you never read the entire Mueller Report.

#9 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-14 10:33 AM | Reply

For 2+ years we were lectured that if Trump did nothing wrong then we should all welcome the Mueller investigation. Okay, fine. That works both ways though.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ at

Cops carry guns, so I guess it's fair that Mafioso do as well.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 10:39 AM | Reply

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#9

I'll read it. I read parts of the Mueller report including the summaries from both Volumes in their entirety.

#11 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 10:40 AM | Reply

For 2+ years we were lectured that if Trump did nothing wrong then we should all welcome the Mueller investigation.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ

In part that was people making a funny about the standard Bush II meme when Republicans mistakenly thought he was God before realizing it was Trump all along.

#12 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 10:41 AM | Reply

"My take on this hinges on the IG report."

this is jeffyj's SOP.

1) while "waiting" on report, speculate wildly
2) if ideologically favorable, continue wild speculation
3) if Ideologically condemning, never speak of it again and deny ever speculating

#13 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-05-14 10:43 AM | Reply

For 2+ years we were lectured that if Trump did nothing wrong then we should all welcome the Mueller investigation.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ

The two sides to this conflict are not equivalent. The two sides are not equally worthwhile. The two sides are not matched in morality.

Donald Trump is going to take advantage of every advantage and right he has under law. I have no problem with that. It's everything else that he's doing to save his skin which is the issue. Nice if everyone recognized that.

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 10:44 AM | Reply

AG Coverup is an evil piece of crap.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-14 10:57 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

AG coverup? the whole Mueller investigation was a coverup to protect the DNC and Hillary

DNC and the Hillary Camp were the ones colluding with Russia

it's all going to come out now

#16 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-05-14 11:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 2

Finally, we will learn all about the oringes!

#17 | Posted by anton at 2019-05-14 11:04 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Fat boy Billy Barr needs to live the rest of his days in prison.

Trump-Barr/Prison 2020

#18 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-14 11:06 AM | Reply

DNC and the Hillary Camp were the ones colluding with Russia

it's all going to come out now

#2 | POSTED BY comrade MAVERICK

^ This is you brain on Fox News ^

Son, you are dumber than a bag of hammers!

#19 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-14 11:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

You = your

#20 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-05-14 11:11 AM | Reply

"the whole Mueller investigation was a coverup to protect the DNC and Hillary"

never go full ------.

#21 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-14 11:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

You Dems were warned - you wouldn't listen. Now, let's bend them over and give that rectal exam to make sure they aren't hiding anything. The reality is that the arrest warrants will be easy to get - the head of the NSA has already flipped as has Bill Priestap in the FBI. Comey is looking at a lot of years in jail along with Brennan and Clapper. They own this.

#22 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 11:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 1

"Comey is looking at a lot of years in jail "

LOL

#23 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-14 11:23 AM | Reply

never go full ------.

#7 | Posted by Alexandrite

Much, much too late.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 11:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You Dems were warned - you wouldn't listen.

#8 | Posted by iragoldberg

Evil people counter-punch out of need for self-preservation. Donald's taking shots at the police pursuing him. Everyone knew Donald was going to try this. That includes you.

#25 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 11:26 AM | Reply

"LOL
#9 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE "

He lied to a FISA judge and the FBI. Spin away.

#26 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 11:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 1

what's your next account name going to be, sheeple?

#27 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-14 11:28 AM | Reply

Spin away.

#12 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 11:

How's this for spin?

Arrest and try everyone who has broken the law.

But Trump first, because he's the one in office and doing the damage.

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 11:29 AM | Reply

the whole Mueller investigation was a coverup to protect the DNC and Hillary

Yes, tell me more about how Hillary and the DNC conspired with Russia to lose an election and then tried to cover it up by appointing Republicans to investigate Trump and not indict him, it all makes such perfect sense

#29 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-14 11:31 AM | Reply

"Comey is looking at a lot of years in jail along with Brennan and Clapper. They own this."

QAnon Cult Member

#30 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-05-14 11:31 AM | Reply

He lied to a FISA judge

Please post the specific lie. I'll wait.

#31 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-14 11:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

joe- he won't even post the judges name.

Because breitbart doesn't know.

#32 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-14 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Please post the specific lie. I'll wait.
#17 | POSTED BY JOE "

Don't you read the news? The FBI signed off that they were "unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Steele". This was a lie and it went all the way up. There are many more but this is the easiest to prove as Steele was already fired by the FBI by the time of the warrant and renewals and had presented false information to the State department regarding Russian hacking at a non-existent Russian consulate in Miami.

#33 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 11:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The FBI signed off that they were "unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Steele".

Link?

This was a lie and it went all the way up.

Prove it's a lie, and prove it went all the way up.

#34 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-14 11:55 AM | Reply

For 2+ years we were lectured that if Trump did nothing wrong then we should all welcome the Mueller investigation. Okay, fine. That works both ways though.

#4 | Posted by JeffJ

Childish nonsense.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-14 11:57 AM | Reply

I believe that given sufficient time, sufficient legitimate evidence would have become found to warrant a FISA warrant and that the Mueller probe would have occurred without the Steele dossier. Unfortunately, Democrats were pressed for time. They needed dirt NOW... headlines NOW... so the administration and the DOJ conspired with the DNC and the Clinton campaign to fabricate the dossier and speed up the process. The Mueller Report is done. It's now equally right that a new investigation takes place into the events surrounding the FISA warrant.

I don't think anyone on the DR is willing to support egregious misuse of federal power, regardless of the party in power.

#36 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-05-14 12:02 PM | Reply

"Prove it's a lie, and prove it went all the way up.
#20 | POSTED BY JOE "

No point in chasing links you won't read. I will just wait for Comey getting the perp walk and then laugh at you.

#37 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 12:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Nevermind, i see that statement in the FISA warrant application now.

Regardless, immediately after they make that statement, they say:

[Steele], who now owns a business/financial intelligence firm, was approached by an identified U.S. person, who indicated to Source #1 that a U.S.-based law firm had hired the identified U.S. person to conduct research regarding [Trump]'s ties to Russia...The identified U.S. person hired [Steele] to conduct this research. The identified U.S. person never advised [Steele] as to the motivation behind the research into [Trump's] ties to Russia. The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit [Trump's] campaign.

Notwithstanding [Steele's] reason for conducting the research into [Trump's] ties to Russia, based on [Steele's] previous reporting history with the FBI, whereby [Steele] provided reliable information to the FBI, the FBI believes [Steele's] reporting herein to be credible."

Do righties ever even read the ---- they bitch about?

#38 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-14 12:04 PM | Reply

#23 | POSTED BY JOE

No, and half of the time they will post a quote thinking it backs them up but it actually proves them wrong...

#39 | Posted by justagirl_idaho at 2019-05-14 12:09 PM | Reply

"Do righties ever even read the ---- they bitch about?
#23 | POSTED BY JOE"

Apparently Lefties like yourself can't or don't read or you would have found:

"Source #1's reporting has been corroborated and used in criminal proceedings and the FBI assesses Source #1 to be reliable," the FBI wrote. "Source #1 has been compensated [REDACTED] by the FBI and the FBI is unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Source #1."

#40 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 12:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No point in chasing links you won't read.

#22 | Posted by iragoldberg

Lazy; dishonest.

#41 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 12:19 PM | Reply

I said i saw that, dumbass. And i posted what comes right after it. You don't get to post one sentence from a footnote in a 66-page FISA warrant application and pretend it's the only thing the FBI said about Steele. There was more, and i posted it, and it proves the FBI was straightforward.

#42 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-14 12:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"#27 | POSTED BY JOE"

This is what they attested:

"the FBI is unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Source #1"

That sign off it what is going to send a lot of people to jail.

#43 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 12:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- After an FBI briefing, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis says Russian hackers gained access to voter databases in two Florida counties ahead of the 2016 presidential election.

DeSantis said Tuesday the hackers didn't manipulate any data and the election results weren't compromised.

The governor said he signed an agreement with the FBI not to disclose the names of the counties, but elections officials in those counties are aware of the intrusions."

www.nbcnews.com

Yeah, the Russians went to the trouble of hacking votor databases but then didn't bother to alter any records. Riiiight!!! And which counties, why should that be kept secret, my guess Miami-Dade and Broward Cdunties or Palm Beach and Broward Counties where we have more Democrats than anywhere else in the state.

#44 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-14 12:37 PM | Reply

This is what they attested:
"the FBI is unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Source #1"

And they went on to attest:

"[Steele], who now owns a business/financial intelligence firm, was approached by an identified U.S. person, who indicated to [Steele] that a U.S.-based law firm had hired the identified U.S. person to conduct research regarding [Trump]'s ties to Russia...The identified U.S. person hired [Steele] to conduct this research. The identified U.S. person never advised [Steele] as to the motivation behind the research into [Trump's] ties to Russia. The FBI speculates that the identified U.S. person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit [Trump's] campaign.
Notwithstanding [Steele's] reason for conducting the research into [Trump's] ties to Russia, based on [Steele's] previous reporting history with the FBI, whereby [Steele] provided reliable information to the FBI, the FBI believes [Steele's] reporting herein to be credible.""

Ypu don't get to pick your favorite words in a FISA warrant application and disregatd the rest.

#45 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-14 12:40 PM | Reply

"#30 | POSTED BY JOE"

Literally nothing that you posted refutes the fact that the FBI writing:

"the FBI is unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Source #1"

is a lie. Like I said, it will be funny watching your heroes walked away in cuffs.

#46 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 12:47 PM | Reply

It doesn't need to "refute it." It compliments it. What derogatory information was the FBI aware of that it didn't share?

#47 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-14 12:52 PM | Reply

"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- After an FBI briefing, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis says Russian hackers gained access to voter databases in two Florida counties ahead of the 2016 presidential election.

DeSantis said Tuesday the hackers didn't manipulate any data and the election results weren't compromised.

The governor said he signed an agreement with the FBI not to disclose the names of the counties, but elections officials in those counties are aware of the intrusions."

www.nbcnews.com

Yeah, the Russians went to the trouble of hacking votor databases but then didn't bother to alter any records. Riiiight!!! And which counties, why should that be kept secret, my guess Miami-Dade and Broward Cdunties or Palm Beach and Broward Counties where we have more Democrats than anywhere else in the state.

#48 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-14 12:53 PM | Reply

Fat boy Billy Barr needs to live the rest of his days in prison.

Trump-Barr/Prison 2020

#4 | Posted by aborted_monson

Why abo? Did he crap in your mess kit?

#49 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-14 12:57 PM | Reply

"Comey is looking at a lot of years in jail "

LOL

#9 | Posted by Alexandrite

It is easy for you to laugh. You won't be joining him.

#50 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-14 01:00 PM | Reply

Yes, tell me more about how Hillary and the DNC conspired with Russia to lose an election and then tried to cover it up by appointing Republicans to investigate Trump and not indict him, it all makes such perfect sense

#15 | Posted by JOE

hiltabeast did not have to conspire to loose. She could do that all by herself.

#51 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-14 01:04 PM | Reply

"Please post the specific lie. I'll wait.
#17 | POSTED BY JOE "

Don't you read the news? The FBI signed off that they were "unaware of any derogatory information pertaining to Steele".

#19 | Posted by iragoldberg

While under oath in england, steele wouldn't say anything in the report was verified. It was ALL BS.

#52 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-14 01:06 PM | Reply

Prove it's a lie, and prove it went all the way up.

#20 | Posted by JOE

Hang in j, the Barr investigation will uncover that for you.

#53 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-14 01:08 PM | Reply

Yeah, the Russians went to the trouble of hacking votor databases but then didn't bother to alter any records. Riiiight!!! And which counties, why should that be kept secret, my guess Miami-Dade and Broward Cdunties or Palm Beach and Broward Counties where we have more Democrats than anywhere else in the state.

#29 | Posted by danni

The files were already corrupted ddan.

#54 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-14 01:11 PM | Reply

Election Fraud in Broward County: Officials Caught Ballot Stuffing, Destroying Ballots
Elections
November 4, 2016 4:28 PM EDT
author: PPD Elections Staff
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Broward County Florida Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes, left, and Democratic presidential nominee former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during a campaign rally at Rev Samuel Deleove Memorial Park on November 1, 2016 in Ft Lauderdale, Florida.

Broward County Florida Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes, left, and Democratic presidential nominee former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton during a campaign rally at Rev Samuel Deleove Memorial Park on November 1, 2016 in Ft Lauderdale, Florida.

According to multiple sources and witnesses, Broward County Supervisor of Elections Brenda Snipes and employees are engaging in mass voter fraud in multiple forms. While People's Pundit Daily has uncovered instances of election fraud in other counties around the state–including Pasco and Lee–Broward is large enough that it could potentially swing the state.

It has been widely reported that black turnout in the state–and in other battleground states such as North Carolina and Ohio–is way down from 2012 levels. In the past few days, the Clinton campaign and their Democratic surrogates have been touting "a surge" in turnout among black voters in Broward County, which is overseen by Snipes.

#55 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-05-14 01:15 PM | Reply

Yes, tell me more about how Hillary and the DNC conspired with Russia to lose an election and then tried to cover it up by appointing Republicans to investigate Trump and not indict him, it all makes such perfect sense

#15 | Posted by JOE

Joe, you have it wrong, they conspired with Russia in order to spy on and get dirt on trump during the campaign

#56 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-05-14 01:15 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Childish nonsense.

#15 | POSTED BY JPW

What's childish is making this statement prior to the release of the IG report:

he is "messing around" in that he's weaponizing the DOJ for Trump.

This was said on a similar thread:

I believe that given sufficient time, sufficient legitimate evidence would have become found to warrant a FISA warrant and that the Mueller probe would have occurred without the Steele dossier. Unfortunately, Democrats were pressed for time. They needed dirt NOW... headlines NOW... so the administration and the DOJ conspired with the DNC and the Clinton campaign to fabricate the dossier and speed up the process. The Mueller Report is done. It's now equally right that a new investigation takes place into the events surrounding the FISA warrant.

I don't think anyone on the DR is willing to support egregious misuse of federal power, regardless of the party in power.

#21 | POSTED BY MUSTANG GT

#57 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 01:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Meanwhile, Corporate crime, long a problem in this country, has reached new heights under the orange sloth because he has abandoned worker safety, pollution control, halted white collar crime investigations prosecutions and fines, just like he promised to do. A report "Rigged Justice" by Warren and Jayapal documents these horrendous corruption problems.

#58 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-14 01:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Arrest and try everyone who has broken the law.
But Trump first, because he's the one in office and doing the damage.
#14 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 11:29 AM

What law do you believe Trump has broken? So far the 2 year Mueller investigation found a lack of evidence in the way of conspiracy or obstruction of justice. You haven't given up the need for evidence in your hatred of Trump, have you?

#59 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-05-14 01:59 PM | Reply

But Trump first, because he's the one in office and doing the damage.
#14 | Posted by Zed

You haven't given up the need for evidence in your hatred of Trump, have you?
#59 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

Zed can't name anything a court can convict Trump of, except that he's orange and fat.

Zed will lose his mind when Brennan and Comey are found to have covered up Cankle Collusion with foreign govt's and her use of chits among "Foundation Donors" and intelligence proxies.

Watch the democrats go nuts as this unfolds, with distraction after distraction. Comey and Brennan will be granting interviews 24/7 to try and get ahead of their impending date with destiny and spin, lie, duck, and weave.

The cherry on top will a sobbing cankle, being led away to Camp Fed.

#60 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-14 02:53 PM | Reply

What law do you believe Trump has broken?

#59 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-05-14 01:59 PM | Reply

Tax fraud and money-laundering.

#61 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 03:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Tax fraud and money-laundering.

#61 | POSTED BY ZED

Hmmm....what is it about, say, Trump U or the Trump Foundation that would cause you to say that?

;-)

#62 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 03:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

When you drop your drawers and twerk your democrat ass off in front of McGruff the crime dog... are you really surprised when he takes a bite outta crime?

Democrats going to Club Fed? Oh the humanity....

Democrats... it you don't wanna do the time... shouldn't done the crime.....

Oh boy! It's getting good now....

Run Hillary Run... you and Obama will be safe in Iraq.

At least for awhile...

#63 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-05-14 03:20 PM | Reply

Tax fraud and money-laundering.
#61 | POSTED BY ZED

And when that all comes to naught, the dems will have wasted 2016, 2020, and be staring bleakly at Pence 2024.

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-14 03:20 PM | Reply

" I'm waiting for the IG report."

Only if it agrees with you. If it doesn't, like the IRS (non)targeting report from the IG, you'll make up your own conclusion.

#65 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-14 03:25 PM | Reply

Straw man alert!

#66 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 03:25 PM | Reply

Or, should I say, "Projection alert!"

#67 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What law do you believe Trump has broken?"

Self-dealing from a charity.

#68 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-14 03:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

My preferred outcome of the IG report is that the investigation(s) were properly predicated. That is what I am hoping for.

#69 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 03:27 PM | Reply

And when that all comes to naught

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism

Tax fraud, charity fraud, and money-laundering?

You, sir, are a man of faith.

#70 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 03:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

be staring bleakly at Pence 2024.

#64 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-14 03:20 PMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

What can one do with Pence but stare bleakly?

#71 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 03:32 PM | Reply

For anyone out there who SINCERELY believes Donald Trump is not a criminal, can you at least admit that his behavior is not the sort that inspires confidence?

#72 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 03:37 PM | Reply

"If the report is "scorching" as Barr has stated, then I will be cheering this."

The Mueller report was scorching.

And we all saw how he handled that.

That you would put any faith in the Presidents personal lawyer do what is right for the country and act in accordance with his position is embarrassing.

For you.

For the rest of us not so much. We know exactly how he will act regardless of what the IG Report says.

#73 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-14 03:39 PM | Reply

So my question is:

Who will investigate the investigators of the investigators of the Investigation?

Who will hold accountable those individuals (like Individual 1) who are obstructing and blocking the original and legitimate investigation ??

#74 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-14 03:44 PM | Reply

#73 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

You're as bad as Danforth.

I'm not putting faith into anyone.

I'm waiting for the IG report. That's it.

#75 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 03:52 PM | Reply

can you at least admit that his behavior is not the sort that inspires confidence?
#72 | POSTED BY ZED

He's a turd. A disgrace to the WH and office. His behavior is absurd and embarrassing.

Unfortunately, Democrats have nothing to offer other than "return to the norm".
With the "norm" being: lot's of talk and dribbled crumbs, while the elites run a centrist gov't that farms out jobs, tech, food production, manufacturing, to continue the service economy of people to wait on them hand and foot.

Dem's didn't learn anything in 2016. This entire charade will fail in a spectacular meltdown.

#76 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-14 04:03 PM | Reply

Tax fraud and money-laundering. - #61 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 03:11 PM
And do you know of any evidence of that, or are you so far gone that evidence of a crime doesn't really even matter for you any more?

#77 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-05-14 04:04 PM | Reply

evidence of a crime

#77 | Posted by Avigdore at

Let's start with this and work our way up:

Is there evidence Trump ran a fraudulent charity?

#78 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-14 04:07 PM | Reply

emoluments clause has been violated repeatedly. does that count?

#79 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-14 06:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

These investigations should be of 'no worries' for those being looked at as I'm sure all the players were honest, by the book, and aboveboard in all their actions...

#80 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-05-14 07:43 PM | Reply

73 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

You're as bad as Danforth.

Please!

I am way worse.

Pretty sure.

I still call Humpy Humpy (amongst other things) and you Deplorables are Deplorable. Because you are still acting deplorable.

And Trump is a acting more deplorable than deplorable like a mafia godfather and Barr is acting like one of Humpy's underling crime bosses.

It is an obvious conspiracy to delay and obstruct justice (until after the elections) by abusing their authority. Don't need tapes or any more testimony...it is right out in the open now and they BOTH need to be held accountable by Congress.

I'd show no mercy because none was given.

But, that's the little Marine in me thinking(I told that sucker to get the heck out of me!).

But, Congress needs to pursue Truth and Justice where ever it leads now.

#81 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-14 07:45 PM | Reply

"I'm waiting for the IG report."

Only if it agrees with your pre-designated conclusion. Anything else, and you'll treat it the same was you treated the IG report on the so-called "targeting" by the IRS. The IG found no targeting of one group over another, yet you found something else entirely.

#82 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-14 09:01 PM | Reply

The only criminals in prison are stupid criminals....In other news, Ocasio-Cortez Suggests Top Democratic Presidential Candidates Are As Dumb As Sea Sponges...

Film at 11....

#83 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-05-14 09:02 PM | Reply

New York Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said "you'd have to have the social intelligence of a sea sponge" to take her literally when she invoked a 12-year deadline to stop "world ending" global warming.

However, at least five Democrats running for president in 2020 invoked the "12 years left" talking point as a sign of how seriously they took climate change to build support among the environmental left.

In January, Ocasio-Cortez said young people were worried "the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change." In April, Ocasio-Cortez warned again there were only 12 years left and that "for everyone who wants to make a joke about that, you may laugh, but your grandkids will not."

ummmm. I predict the world will end in 2 years.... when Democrats start going into prison... yep the death of all hope of a presidential election.... run Hillary, run...

#84 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-05-14 09:11 PM | Reply

#57 putting a a turd cherry on a 💩 Sunday didn't change a thing.

The investigate the investigators nonsense is simple retaliation. Every bit of evidence posted is cherry picked and easily shown to be dishonest. The rest is childish false equivalency likely born from the fact that the Mueller report confirmed as true every single nothingberder we kicked around this place the last two years.

The Mueller investigation was based on multiple lines of probable cause while the Barr investigation is based on I can do I am because Fat Man says so. The supposed "evidence" is Faux News type dishonesty and distortions.

Sorry, but if you think the two are equally valid and based based in rule of law you're an idiot.

#85 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-14 09:16 PM | Reply

What law do you believe Trump has broken? So far the 2 year Mueller investigation found a lack of evidence in the way of conspiracy or obstruction of justice. You haven't given up the need for evidence in your hatred of Trump, have you?

#59 | POSTED BY AVIGDORE

No it didn't you lying sack of ----.

Seriously rcade, why do you drop the hammer on climate change morons who can at least be given some benefit of the doubt for being too dumb to understand the topic but let this incessant lying and dishonesty happen when anybody can read 4-5 pages of a report and see it as a lie?

#86 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-14 09:19 PM | Reply

#66 and 67 hardly. The Mueller report was written in plain English but you idiot righties still ignore it or flat out misstate what it says. Your views are garbage and you think a trite "let the chips fall" statement covers the stench.

#87 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-14 09:22 PM | Reply

"Projection alert!"

You need a new dictionary. Stating history correctly is NOT projection.

#88 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-14 09:23 PM | Reply

#82 he didn't find a thing. He's just regurgitating what he's been told.

#89 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-14 09:34 PM | Reply

Mueller, as he pursued his patriotic duty to Justice, has been screaming it from every mountaintop in America! How did you not hear the "No collusion, no obstruction!" cry to battle?

So his neck wont stretch when the truth comes out?

#90 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-05-14 09:50 PM | Reply

This is what I think will come of the IG report. I think he'll find some malfeasance but it will prove limited in scope and limited to a small number of people. With the Hillary email investigation I thought Horowitz failed to see the forest through the trees. With this I'm expecting fewer trees.

If that ends up being the case Barr really should call off the dogs. We'll know a lot more in three weeks or so.

#91 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 10:09 PM | Reply

Mar 22, 2019 - Special counsel Robert Mueller is not recommending any additional indictments ... Mueller won't be recommending further indictments

enough said, over the end

#92 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-05-14 10:10 PM | Reply

#88

It's projection because we all know you won't accept the report if it doesn't provide the outcome you are hoping for. Coincidentally you and I are hoping for the same outcome.

#93 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-14 10:12 PM | Reply

Mar 22, 2019 - Special counsel Robert Mueller is not recommending any additional indictments ... Mueller won't be recommending further indictments

enough said, over the end

#92 | Posted by Maverick

So you're a member of the extremely low standard crowd who is just fine with everything Trump so long as it's not criminal?

Oh hell, who are you kidding. You'd find a way to write off clear criminal behavior anyways. I know because that's what you're doing with the above post.

#94 | Posted by jpw at 2019-05-14 10:21 PM | Reply

Intimidation of prosecutors. Lock them up.

#95 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-14 10:24 PM | Reply

Durham was already involved in investigating the FBI for leaks:

Republicans request update on investigation into ex-FBI official accused of leaks
01/15/19 02:04 PM EST

Baker's lawyer Daniel Levin said during the closed-door interview that his client could not answer questions about reporters because he is the subject of a DOJ investigation, according to a portion of the interview transcript cited Tuesday's letter.

Levin during the interview said that John Durham, the U.S. attorney for Connecticut, was the prosecutor assigned to Baker's case, according to the transcript.

"I'm sorry, I'm ... not going to let [Baker] answer these questions right now," Levin told Jordan in October, according to the letter. "You may or may not know, he's been the subject of ... a criminal leak investigation that's still active at the Justice Department."

The leak probe, which began under the previous administration, was previously reported. Sources close to the investigation in December 2017 told The Washington Post that the probe was essentially over, with Baker cleared of allegations of wrongdoing.

The investigation stemmed from a dispute between the FBI and National Security Agency over stories about surveillance techniques, according to the Post.


thehill.com

#96 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-14 11:29 PM | Reply

Mar 22, 2019 - Special counsel Robert Mueller is not recommending any additional indictments ... Mueller won't be recommending further indictments

enough said, over the end

The question is: Are any indictments expected from US attorneys who Mueller referred cases to? For example, what about Tony Podesta and Vin Weber, who were both involved in with Manafort's shenanigans in Ukraine?

#97 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-14 11:33 PM | Reply

"This is what I think will come of the IG report. I think he'll find some malfeasance but it will prove limited in scope and limited to a small number of people."

I think the IG report will be more or less a whitewashing because the FBI sees maintaining the credibility of the FBI as more important than justice and it is currently facing an existential crisis. The way in which the Hillary e-mail scandal was investigated - knowing destruction of evidence after said evidence was subpoenaed, proof now (via headers) that foreign governments did indeed have access to her server, immunity deals handed out like candy, the lead investigators being partisan and disgraced, and the entire Weiner episode - too much wrongdoing to avoid all charges. But, the FBI will cover for their own.

"If that ends up being the case Barr really should call off the dogs. We'll know a lot more in three weeks or so.
#91 | POSTED BY JEFFJ"

The Barr investigation needs to focus on Papadopolous and Page. In the case of Page, the FISA stated that he was an associate of a person prosecuted as a foreign agent - it failed to disclose that Page aided in that prosecution which was the association. As for Papadopolous, the FBI has a timing issue. The agents they threw at Papadopolous pre-dated the information from Downer - which they used as justification. In order to use 'confidential human informants', they need to meet a high bar - especially if this is done outside the US. They didn't come close to meeting that bar. Once the FBI/CIA is forced to admit their connection to Joseph Mifsud, the whole house of cards collapses - and they will be forced to admit it as he was included in several State Department events in the months leading up to the Papadopolous set-up. Lastly, we have the case of the 'undeclared $10K in cash' payment to Papadopolous which proves the unlawful surveillance. Lucky for Papadopolous that he was smart enough to give the cash to his lawyer when this smelt fishy and not take it on the plane.

In the end, the Deep State picked the wrong target in Papadopolous - as well as in Trump. They thought he couldn't win so they would get some chits from Clinton for their efforts. Now, they will get jail time.

#98 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 11:36 PM | Reply

#96 "The leak probe, which began under the previous administration, was previously reported."

Here's the previously reported story if anyone is interested:

FBI's top lawyer said to be reassigned
www.washingtonpost.com

#99 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-14 11:36 PM | Reply

"#97 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY"

Craig was the Democrat sacrificial lamb. Podesta is too connected to go down, which is why he was allowed to file for his status change without charges yet. The only way he goes down is if the Barr investigation opens a giant can of worms linked to Ukraine via the Steele Dossier. If that is the case, things are gonna get real dicey for Hunter and Joe Biden. If Joe looks like he can win in 2020, efforts will be made to slow track the investigation - if he starts to falter, all bets are off as Ukraine will try to curry favor with Trump.

#100 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 11:41 PM | Reply

POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

Instead of all your smoke and mirror distractions, why don't you just come out and say that you don't want any Dem's investigated for their fishy-skanky FISA warrants.

Because we both know you don't want anyone going down that trail. don't we?

#101 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-05-14 11:41 PM | Reply

"In the case of Page, the FISA stated that he was an associate of a person prosecuted as a foreign agent - it failed to disclose that Page aided in that prosecution which was the association."

Aided in the prosecution? He cooperated with the investigation, which is not the same thing:

Trump campaign adviser Carter Page targeted for recruitment by Russian spies

abcnews.go.com

#102 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-14 11:44 PM | Reply

If the report is "scorching" as Barr has stated, then I will be cheering this.

When did Barr say that?

#103 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-14 11:55 PM | Reply

"#102 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY"

Yes, in 2013 - after which he was entirely cleared and aided the FBI in charging the foreign agents. There is simply no reason that 3 FISA warrants should have been authorized against Page - the proof being that it is 3 years later and we don't have a single charge or event hint of wrongdoing by Page. The FBI need to show progress to get FISA renewals - there is simply no reasonable argument that they met that standard for renewals, much less the initial warrant.

#104 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-14 11:56 PM | Reply

"It's projection because we all know I won't accept the report if it doesn't provide the outcome I'm hoping for."

FTFY.

#105 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-14 11:58 PM | Reply

" after which he was entirely cleared and aided the FBI in charging the foreign agents"

Oh, FFS, Paige himself told the FBI the Russians were trying to recruit him.

In addition, the FISA renewal, signed by Rosenstein, cannot be granted unless there was new, substantial evidence gathered during the prior FISA warrant.

Finally, the idiotic concepts behind all this are:
a) If the FBI observes Russians interacting with Trump's campaign AFTER warning them about possible Russian attempts to influence, there is no reason to investigate further, and
b) we should have stopped surveilling Kislyak when Jeff Sessions walked into his office, because...well, simply because Jeff Sessions walked into his office.

#106 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 12:07 AM | Reply

"Yes, in 2013 - after which he was entirely cleared and aided the FBI in charging the foreign agents... the proof being that it is 3 years later and we don't have a single charge or event hint of wrongdoing by Page. "

He was named as Male 1 in the indictments against 3 Russian spies, but, again, that is not the same thing as aiding the FBI in prosecuting them. He was also portrayed by the Russians as a gullible fool, whose enthusiasm they sought to use to their own purposes:

In the FBI court filings, spy recruiters were overheard speaking with Buryakov about "the attempted use of Male-1 as an intelligence source for Russia," the court record says. The recruiter says he "promised Male-1 a lot" and told him he would use his "connections in Russia" to "push contracts" his way. "For now, his enthusiasm works for me," the recruiter says of Page.

Page was never accused during the Buryakov case of having been successfully recruited or of spying. FBI agents say in the court record that they interviewed "Male-1" in June 2013. During the interview, Page described how he and the man identified as a Russian recruiter, Victor Podobnyy, met periodically and exchanged emails about the energy industry, but nothing in the court document suggests that Page shared any sensitive information with Podobnyy. Rather, it appears they spoke in much the way business executives seeking opportunities do -- with Page touting his work ties to the Russian energy firm Gazprom. The Russians were heard laughing, saying Page had no idea they were government agents.

#107 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 12:07 AM | Reply

When did Barr say that?

#103 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

My bad. He didn't. That was Gorka's characterization.

I don't place much weight into what Gorka has to say.

I'm actually glad it was Gorka and not Barr who said this.

I don't think the IG report is going to be explosive, as outlined above.

#108 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 12:11 AM | Reply

"The FBI need to show progress to get FISA renewals - there is simply no reasonable argument that they met that standard for renewals, much less the initial warrant."

Only someone who has read the FISA warrants in their entirety can make that determination. Page was no longer working for the Trump campaign when the warrants were taken out against him, so to say that the FBI and DOJ surveilled him to get at Trump seems disingenuous.

#109 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 12:11 AM | Reply

"It's projection because we all know I won't accept the report if it doesn't provide the outcome I'm hoping for."

FTFY.

#105 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

You didn't fix anything.

The outcome I'm hoping for is this:

The IG report finds that the investigations into the Trump campaign were adequately predicated.
---
Are you hoping that the report exposes a deep, coordinated and concerted effort to abuse federal law enforcement agency powers to try and flip the political scales in favor of one political party over another?

I'm hoping for the opposite of that and I hope the report affirms it.

#110 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 12:15 AM | Reply

"Oh, FFS, Paige himself told the FBI the Russians were trying to recruit him. "

Exactly - which is a strange technique for someone looking to become a spy for Russia, don't you think?

"In addition, the FISA renewal, signed by Rosenstein, cannot be granted unless there was new, substantial evidence gathered during the prior FISA warrant."

Again, exactly my point. Which is why we want the warrants declassified because this "new, substantial evidence" has resulted in NOTHING. No charges as well as the FISA no longer being renewed. So, what did they use to justify as substantial that has resulted in NOTHING?

"Finally, the idiotic concepts behind all this are:
a) If the FBI observes Russians interacting with Trump's campaign AFTER warning them about possible Russian attempts to influence, there is no reason to investigate further, and"

This is a half-true at best. The FBI gave a general briefing stating that the Russians would try. Standard procedure would have then required them to inform the US citizen of any specific attempt or suspected foreign agent - such as them contacting Page, Papadopolous, or Manafort. That never occurred violating FBI policy. Further, they never informed Trump of any specific agent or attempting interference or about their suspicions regarding the 3 mentioned above. The FBI is caught in a BS tale - your half-truth doesn't help them.

"b) we should have stopped surveilling Kislyak when Jeff Sessions walked into his office, because...well, simply because Jeff Sessions walked into his office.
#106 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

Why are you even talking about Sessions now? Because it is too painful to talk about Page and Papadopolous? Stick to where the investigation is going and not a Sessions strawman.

#111 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 12:19 AM | Reply

"Only someone who has read the FISA warrants in their entirety can make that determination. Page was no longer working for the Trump campaign when the warrants were taken out against him, so to say that the FBI and DOJ surveilled him to get at Trump seems disingenuous.
#109 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY"

The FISA is retroactive - not just from the point of issue going forward. So yes, it was an attempt to spy on the Trump campaign.

#112 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 12:20 AM | Reply

"Oh, FFS, Paige himself told the FBI the Russians were trying to recruit him. "
Exactly - which is a strange technique for someone looking to become a spy for Russia, don't you think?

I'm not aware that Page made that claim. Link?

#113 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 12:21 AM | Reply

"The FISA is retroactive - not just from the point of issue going forward. So yes, it was an attempt to spy on the Trump campaign."

Link?

#114 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 12:22 AM | Reply

Prediction:

The DR Left will be breaking out the Nothingburger memes when the IG report comes out...

#115 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 12:25 AM | Reply

"The FISA is retroactive"

I don't believe I've ever heard of such a thing as a retroactive FISA warrant. That doesn't even sound legal.

#116 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-05-15 12:31 AM | Reply

"Exactly - which is a strange technique for someone looking to become a spy for Russia, don't you think?"

Sure...and a great reason for the FBI to surveil Page.

#117 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 12:34 AM | Reply

"The FBI gave a general briefing stating that the Russians would try. Standard procedure would have then required them to inform the US citizen of any specific attempt or suspected foreign agent - such as them contacting Page, Papadopolous, or Manafort. That never occurred violating FBI policy. Further, they never informed Trump of any specific agent or attempting interference or about their suspicions regarding the 3 mentioned above."

And yet (bold mine):

FBI warned Trump in 2016 Russians would try to infiltrate his campaign

The briefings were led by counterintelligence specialists from the FBI, the sources said. They were timed to occur around the period when the candidates began receiving classified intelligence, the officials said, which put them at greater risk for being targeted by foreign spies. Trump's first intelligence briefing as Republican nominee was Aug. 17, 2016, sources told NBC News at the time.

Manafort left the campaign Aug. 19, two days after Trump's first intelligence briefing.


www.nbcnews.com

#118 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 12:36 AM | Reply

"I don't believe I've ever heard of such a thing as a retroactive FISA warrant. That doesn't even sound legal.
#116 | POSTED BY TWINPAC "

It has to do with stored digital communications - as the prior messages, unless deleted - remain in your inbox, the have access to information sent/received prior to the issuance of the warrant. The same goes with text messages, electronic apps (Skype, Line, Viber, Whatsapp, etc) - anything that remains on your device is no open for their inspection. It also extends to call history, etc - anything that has stored information on prior communications on your electronic devices.

#119 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 12:36 AM | Reply

"we want the warrants declassified because this "new, substantial evidence" has resulted in NOTHING. "

You don't know that for a fact at all. You're making that claim up out of whole cloth.

"The FBI gave a general briefing stating that the Russians would try. "

You're pretending again. Did the FBI tell the campaigns to inform them, or not? And did the Trump campaign inform them after the FBI surveilled other Russians and caught campaign members, or did they lie again and again and again about all things Russia?

#120 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 12:37 AM | Reply

"I don't believe I've ever heard of such a thing as a retroactive FISA warrant."

I never heard of it either, which is why I asked for a link.

"Standard procedure would have then required them to inform the US citizen of any specific attempt or suspected foreign agent - such as them contacting Page, Papadopolous, or Manafort. That never occurred violating FBI policy."

Link?

#121 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 12:38 AM | Reply

"The DR Left will be breaking out the Nothingburger memes when the IG report comes out...
#115 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER "

I predict the 'progressives' on this site will be entirely consistent with their belief that violations of civil/Constitutional rights does not matter as long as it is their side doing the violating. It has been their position since 2008.

#122 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 12:39 AM | Reply

"Why are you even talking about Sessions now?"

That was one example. There are lots more.

It's totally idiotic to pretend the FBI shouldn't have been surveilling Russians after they knew Russians were tying to influence the campaigns and the election. Had the FBI done nothing, and HRC won closely with Russian help, your head would be exploding right now.

#123 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 12:40 AM | Reply

""we want the warrants declassified because this "new, substantial evidence" has resulted in NOTHING. "
You don't know that for a fact at all. You're making that claim up out of whole cloth."

We know for a fact there are no subsequent FISA renewals or charges against Page - unless you are one of those Q types believing there are secret indictments all around.

"And did the Trump campaign inform them after the FBI surveilled other Russians and caught campaign members"

Inform them of what -Manaforts tax schemes from decades prior in UKRAINE? We have yet to see anything pointing to Russian collusion. Did you not bother to even look at the Mueller report?

#124 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 12:43 AM | Reply

"I predict the 'progressives' on this site will.."

Who gives a ---- what YOU predict? You'll be hiding under yet another nom de plume before the first primary vote.

#125 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 12:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"We have yet to see anything pointing to Russian collusion. Did you not bother to even look at the Mueller report?"

None of us have seen the FBI's CI investigation and likely never will for years to come. Mueller's report stated that the FBI CI investigators were in the SCO and were given any info Mueller turned up and couldn't use in his criminal investigation into the social media interference and Russian govt hacking. That FBI CI is said to be ongoing, which is probably why Trump is freaking out about Wray.

#126 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 12:48 AM | Reply

"We know for a fact there are no subsequent FISA renewals "

But you know there WAS a renewal or two. You have NO IDEA whether that information lead to anything at all.

"unless you are one of those Q types believing there are secret indictments all around."

Posts the idiot who just referred to the "Deep State".

"Inform them of what"

Contact after contact after contact with Russians. Keep up.

"We have yet to see anything pointing to Russian collusion."

Not for Junior's lack of trying. Again...keep up.

#127 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 12:49 AM | Reply

The FBI and DOJ operate on the basis of "beyond a reasonable doubt" and issued a report on that basis. They also gave the orange sloth a free pass which no one else in the country is entitled to, just for being President. The basis for impeachment is less than that. Consistently ignoring the constitution, persistent denial of the truth and legal procedure, demanding that all blacks be removed from his casino when he entered it are legitimate reasons to question his suitability for the job and hold impeachment hearings. It doesn't matter that the Senate will stonewall the effort. The public needs to be educated on just what a lowlife ------- is corrupting our country with his ecocidal populism.

#128 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-15 12:50 AM | Reply

IRA

"It has to do with stored digital communications - as the prior messages, unless deleted - remain in your inbox, the have access to information sent/received prior to the issuance of the warrant. The same goes with text messages, electronic apps (Skype, Line, Viber, Whatsapp, etc) - anything that remains on your device is no open for their inspection. It also extends to call history, etc - anything that has stored information on prior communications on your electronic devices."

That's not called a "retroactive warrant." In fact, there is no such thing. Any warrant could specify the collection of digital data, past and present ~ which is SOP for an ongoing investigation.

Stop and think what you're implying.

#129 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-05-15 01:01 AM | Reply

"Mueller's report stated that the FBI CI investigators were in the SCO and were given any info Mueller turned up and couldn't use in his criminal investigation "

From page 13 of Mueller's report:

From its inception, the Office recognized that its investigation could identify foreign intelligence and counterintelligence information relevant to the FBI's broader national security mission. FBI personnel who assisted the Office established procedures to identify and convey such information to the FBI. The FBI's Counterintelligence Division met with the Office regularly for that purpose for most of the Office's tenure. For more than the past year, the FBI also embedded personnel at the Office who did not work on the Special Counsel's investigation, but whose purpose was to review the results of the investigation and to send-in writing-summaries of foreign intelligence and counterintelligence information to FBIHQ and FBI Field Offices. Those communications and other correspondence between the Office and the FBI contain information derived from the investigation, not all of which is contained in this Volume.

#130 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 01:03 AM | Reply

""Standard procedure would have then required them to inform the US citizen of any specific attempt or suspected foreign agent ... "

No it doesn't. The FBI might inform someone else up in the chain of command but NEVER do they inform "the public" about an investigation. And for good reason. Everybody is considered innocent (and entitled to legal counsel) until proven otherwise.

That's how Comey got in trouble when he testified in open court. He violated "standard procedure."

#131 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-05-15 01:29 AM | Reply

#130 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

#2, you know what the penalty for failure is, right?

#132 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-05-15 01:31 AM | Reply

You'll be hiding under yet another nom de plume before the first primary vote.

#125 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Uh huh.

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And pray tell, Danny, please cite another nom de plume he's ever been credibly accused of posting under.

The only accusation I've ever seen levied is Leftcoastlawyer and that is utterly retarded for anyone who has been around this site long enough (namely: you) to have read enough of both of their posts to recognize they are clearly 2 different people.

You really should put a shroud over your life-size Obama poster when you post here - it clearly distracts you because you can't stop looking at it.

#133 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 07:25 AM | Reply

Uh Jeff...he was talking to Ira Sheepleberg.

#134 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-15 07:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I can correct you on this because i do it all the time :)

#135 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-15 07:36 AM | Reply

The only accusation I've ever seen levied is Leftcoastlawyer and that is utterly retarded for anyone who has been around this site long enough (namely: you) to have read enough of both of their posts to recognize they are clearly 2 different people.

BS. He outed himself by posting an answer directed toward one under the other's name which I and other posters saw in real time and immediately called him out for. And then he didn't deny it.

Can't believe you're such a dupe, but then again, you've changed quite a bit over the years.

#136 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-05-15 08:52 AM | Reply

You simply don't investigate the people who are in charge of making sure you are doing the right thing. An unbiased third party is in charge of that.

#137 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-15 09:11 AM | Reply

Joe,

My comment was directed at Danforth.

BS. He outed himself by posting an answer directed toward one under the other's name which I and other posters saw in real time and immediately called him out for.

I don't remember that. I'm not saying you are lying, I just don't remember that. Is this something that happens often, or was it a one-time thing?

#138 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 09:17 AM | Reply

You simply don't investigate the people who are in charge of making sure you are doing the right thing. An unbiased third party is in charge of that.

#137 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

That's why the IG was created.

Durham also supposedly falls under this category.

The IG report is expected to be released sometime in the next 3 weeks or so.

#139 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 09:19 AM | Reply

--he was talking to Ira Sheepleberg.

It's amazing how the dimwitted and/or paranoid DR Left always accuse posters of being someone else. It's an obsession. They can't even see the difference is posting styles, or note time stamps.

#140 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-15 09:25 AM | Reply

I don't remember that. I'm not saying you are lying, I just don't remember that. Is this something that happens often, or was it a one-time thing?

You'll have to ask Hans to try and find it, though I'm not the only one who recognized it immediately. I believe a thread topic was being discussed and something was directed at ROC and he directly replied as LCL, quoting something he previously said as ROC. My theory is that he had two tabs or windows open and posted from the alternate one and exposed himself by accident.

Again, there was no denial because it was obvious that he'd outed himself. And then when looking back, ROC always NW'd LCL and vice versa. The self glossing was the final straw.

#141 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-05-15 09:33 AM | Reply

--ROC always NW'd LCL and vice versa.

More paranoia from Tony Truther, who never saw a conspiracy theory he didn't embrace.

#142 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-15 09:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#142

Time to change your Depends gramps, it's obviously full of shiite. I mentioned a direct incident, not a conspiracy. An intelligent poster would notice the difference. The anecdote is merely an opinion of known fact.

You know, the things you avoid like the plague,.... and a daily shower.

#143 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-05-15 09:40 AM | Reply

That's why the IG was created.
Durham also supposedly falls under this category.
The IG report is expected to be released sometime in the next 3 weeks or so.

#139 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-05-15 09:19 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Sorry, but this doesn't pass the test of unbiased. This is third world stuff.

#144 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-15 09:42 AM | Reply

Hey tell us again about the whacky Bristol Palin theory you were promoting around here, Truther Tony. That was comedy gold.

#145 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-15 09:43 AM | Reply

Tony,

You jogged my memory. I do remember that now and it was kind of strange.

Having said that, those 2 are clearly 2 different people.

Sorry, but this doesn't pass the test of unbiased. This is third world stuff.

#144 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER

The office of Inspector General doesn't pass the test of unbiased? Horowitz is an Obama-appointee.

#146 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 09:46 AM | Reply

Bruce,

Any agency with surveillance powers needs tight oversight. That is what the IG was created to do. I don't see anything 3rd world about that. To me, that epitomizes first world action.

#147 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 09:50 AM | Reply

Asking Durham to investigate in addition to the IG and Huber who are also investigating makes me wonder if Barr doubts the outcome of the other two investigations, soon to be completed, will turn out the way Trump wants them to. Third times a charm? Or maybe he just wants to give Trump and his followers an investigation to hang onto if the first two don't pan out quite right?

#148 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 09:57 AM | Reply

#148,

That's plausible, Gal.

#149 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 10:00 AM | Reply

"My comment was directed at Danforth."

And mine at Ira.

Reread as many times as it takes.

#150 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 10:04 AM | Reply

And mine at Ira.
Reread as many times as it takes.

#150 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I see that now. Both Ira and ROC made predictions within a couple of posts of each other.

#151 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 10:08 AM | Reply

"It's amazing how the dimwitted and/or paranoid DR Left always accuse posters of being someone else. "

Great; now there are TWO idiots who can't read.

But feel free to keep accusing others of being dimwits, Nulli. I can always use a good laugh in the morning.

#152 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 10:10 AM | Reply

One theory of the case:

"One thing about Durham: he moves incredibly slowly. I'd be shocked if he is done before November 2020, meaning Trump will be able to attack the FBI as being under a cloud throughout the campaign. All part of the plan." - Former DOJ spokesman Matt Miller

#153 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 10:14 AM | Reply

Investigating he investigators; new name for Bennnngggghhhhhaaaazzzziiii!

#154 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 10:22 AM | Reply

Scrutiny of Russia Investigation Is Said to Be a Review, Not a Criminal Inquiry

www.nytimes.com

#155 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 10:29 AM | Reply

Durham to take over Huber's investigation:

Amy Fiscus @amyfiscus New York Times national security editor

NEW: Durham's review of the Russia investigation origins
-is NOT a criminal inquiry
-takes over FISA review from Huber
-will review all intelligence collection related to Trump campaign

But it's not a criminal probe at this time:

Adam Goldman @adamgoldmanNYT

Durham for now will not wield the sort of law enforcement powers that come with an open criminal investigation, such as the ability to subpoena documents and compel witnesses to testify.

#156 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 10:36 AM | Reply

Barr throws curveball into Senate GOP 'spying' probe

www.msn.com

#157 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 10:39 AM | Reply

"Barr throws curveball into Senate GOP 'spying' probe"

He's afraid they might accidentally find evidence that implicates Trump in crimes.

#158 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-15 11:07 AM | Reply

The office of Inspector General doesn't pass the test of unbiased? Horowitz is an Obama-appointee.

#146 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-05-15 09:46 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

It is impossible to establish fair legal investigations under this obstructive and vindictive administration.

#159 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-05-15 11:07 AM | Reply

--ROC always NW'd LCL and vice versa.

LOL, I am not sure how this thread became about me and my alleged sock puppet, I will let LCL respond for himself. As for that thread that Danny and Tony are talking about, I don't remember that particular exchange and don't know why LCL responded to something addressed to me. I will point out, however, that it appears that a similar mistake was made a couple of times on this very thread, so maybe there are more sock puppets than we realize.

All I can say is that for someone who lives in SF, he isn't the total lefty freak that he could be, but is someone that I have come to know over the past 15 years, given the fact that it turns out that he is married to an old law school classmate of mine. I am pretty sure RCade knows that we aren't the same person, after all, we both have been on the DR since the start.

But if you all want to keep believing it, more fun for me in accepting credit for his posts.

#160 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 11:10 AM | Reply

#157

Interesting link Gal, I was wondering the same thing. Just by their very nature, a DOJ investigation will always be more extensive than a Congressional investigation, mostly because their Subpoena's have teeth to them (criminal contempt) and as we have seen from the Nadler circus, there are no restrictions on accessing grand jury and national security information in the course of the investigation.

My guess is that the GOP investigations in the Senate will proceed, albeit slowly, while USA Durham (who has an excellent reputation in investigating law enforcement wrongdoing) does his thing.

#161 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 11:17 AM | Reply

it turns out that he is married to an old law school classmate of mine.

Is her name Kamala?

#162 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 11:17 AM | Reply

#162

LOL, no, but they were friends at Hastings (both were in BLSA) and both worked for the DA's office at the same time.

I am friends with Doug Emhoff, Kamala's husband however, but I don't know if LCL knows Doug because he and Kamala's relationship didn't start until Kamala was AG of California.

#163 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 11:35 AM | Reply

What law do you believe Trump has broken?
#59 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-05-14 01:59 PM | Reply
Tax fraud and money-laundering.

#61 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2019-05-14 03:11 PM | FLAG:

Campaign finance law violation.

#164 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-05-15 01:11 PM | Reply

I don't remember that particular exchange and don't know why LCL responded to something addressed to me. I will point out, however, that it appears that a similar mistake was made a couple of times on this very thread, so maybe there are more sock puppets than we realize.

As my memory becomes sharper, the comment had one of you taking credit by saying "I" when the comment was made by the other. I'm sure there can be glitches, but as I noted, I was not the only one who noticed what happened in real time and commented on the thread about it.

Truly doesn't matter at the end of the day. I've had a second account since 2004 and no one has ever linked it to me though I rarely if ever use it, and I don't use it to gloss tonyroma.

#165 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-05-15 01:56 PM | Reply

As always Tony you're the best! So smart and handsome too.

#166 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-05-15 02:26 PM | Reply

"Zed can't name anything a court can convict Trump of"

What a sad situation, when being a unrepentant bigot, a serial liar, and a crappy President isn't enough to sway a voter, as long as there's an (R) after the name.

#167 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 03:04 PM | Reply

"Comey is looking at a lot of years in jail"

I'd wager with you, but who knows who you'll be when you lose THAT one?

#168 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 03:10 PM | Reply

#167

Agreed that it doesn't matter, I will admit that I did have one other account that I set up around 2007, "Dedpud", but RCade must have traced IP numbers because he almost immediately emailed me, told me he was taking it down and gave me a short vacay because of it.

#169 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 03:24 PM | Reply

I set up around 2007, "Dedpud"

I set up a Deafpud account that lasted all of 3 posts before it got deleted.

I also set up a Frank Cotton account that also didn't last long.

Both were obviously spoof accounts.

Other than goofing around like that I've always posted as JeffJ.

#170 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 03:32 PM | Reply

#170

I remember the Frank Cotton account, that should have been left up by the Drudgelord since I really wasn't hurting anyone.

#171 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 03:42 PM | Reply

opps, I => it, I don't want anyone to think that Jeff is another one of my alleged sock puppets.

#172 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-15 03:43 PM | Reply

I had another account many years ago. It was only to troll...and it was a fairly offensive name. Not dirty...just offensive.

I wish we could take the locks off those for a while and have some fun.

#173 | Posted by eberly at 2019-05-15 03:45 PM | Reply

"Comey is looking at a lot of years in jail"
---
I'd wager with you, but who knows who you'll be when you lose THAT one?

#168 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

This writer thinks Comey might be in trouble:

Jim Comey's own words justify Bill Barr's review

thehill.com

Here's the writer's bio:

Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, LLC.

#174 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-15 04:12 PM | Reply

Weiners laptop will show us how DNC murdered mr Seth Rich. Traitors will get the rope soon. Get the popcorn a poppin.

Remember that we need to save the earth by not having more kids.....we need much more immigration to have workers do the jobs americans are not willing to do.

#175 | Posted by mutant at 2019-05-15 08:13 PM | Reply

"Jim Comey's own words justify Bill Barr's review"

Brought to you by the same people who don't believe Team Trump deserved to be "reviewed".

#176 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 08:55 PM | Reply

"Jim Comey's own words justify Bill Barr's review

This seems to be a purposeful, if questionable, strategy. The Mueller report largely has undercut any assertion by Comey that the counterintelligence investigation initiated during Comey's directorship was founded on solid legal predication."

The problem with this statement, which I'm sure someone with Brock's background would grok, is that Mueller took over the criminal investigation into Russian interference and the Trump campaign not the CI investigation into the same, so to say that Mueller's report undercuts "any assertion by Comey that the counterintelligence investigation initiated during Comey's directorship was founded on solid legal predication" is a non sequitur.

#177 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 09:36 PM | Reply

"crappy President isn't enough to sway a voter, as long as there's an (R) after the name.
#167 | POSTED BY DANFORTH"

You are the same as Zed thinking you understand Trump voters, you don't That (R) behind a name add no value for me whatsoever. Trump could have ran (I) or (D) and I would have supported him because I support HIS POLICIES not his party. The repubs are a bunch of spineless nitwits beholden to corporate America and Israel to a large extent. I don't support either of those. But, I do support a border wall, better trade deals, an economy that works for average Americans and raises wages, and NO MORE WARS.

The choice was not for an (R) or (D) - it was for someone actually bringing change to the country fighting both (R) and (D). To now say his supporters or (R)'s in general support one another simply because of party is ludicrous, and you know that. In fact, it is just projection on your part.

#178 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 10:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But, I do support a border wall, better trade deals, an economy that works for average Americans and raises wages, and NO MORE WARS."

Trump has failed utterly at all of these things.

War is coming btw, cuz 2020 looms.

#179 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-15 10:13 PM | Reply

"so to say that Mueller's report undercuts "any assertion by Comey that the counterintelligence investigation initiated during Comey's directorship was founded on solid legal predication" is a non sequitur.
#177 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY "

Yeah - except they rely on exactly the same underlying evidence - namely, FISA warrants on Page, Papadopolous attempted set-up, etc. Like I said above, the FBI has a huge timing problem in trying to justify their actions. They went after Papadopolous using confidential agency assets with ZERO probably cause. That fact is not going to mysteriously re-write itself and the justification the FBI used retroactively about Mifsud is going to be laid bare once they admit he is a Western Intelligence (if not FBI/CIA) directly employed asset. My bet - Brennan will be the first one taken down followed by Comey.

#180 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 10:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Trump has failed utterly at all of these things.
War is coming btw, cuz 2020 looms.
#179 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

Are you really that partisan? He has failed, partially, on the wall. But, it is being built now in face of 100% unified Dem resistance. They wouldn't even admit it was a real issue until about a month ago. They fact that it is even part of the national dialogue after years of ignoring by both parties is already a success.

As to better trade deals - really? You are really going to say we had better trade deals under Obama? We would have TPP now if not for Trump winning.

As to an economy that works for average Americans - again, you are denying the reality of the data. Best economic stats across the board - now before you go slapping Obama on the back for that, please link to any post you made from pre-Nov 2016 where you predicted the economy would strengthen under Trump. I doubt you can as I would guess you were a 'sky is falling' type that pulled their money from the market after the election.

Lastly - as to no more wars. TRUMP ENDED WARS. ISIS is gone, troops are coming home. He has significantly improved relationships with NK and Russia and resisted Democrat and GOP hawks that wanted more war in the Middle East. Were you one of those goofs predicting nuclear war with NK a year ago? I would bet you were. You were wrong then just like you are wrong now on Iran.

#181 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 10:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"You are really going to say we had better trade deals under Obama? "

Obama had to bail out farmers 15 billion because he had NO IDEA what he was doing with china trade?

The rest of your post is nonsense. A high stock market isn't a good economy for the average american.

#182 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-15 10:25 PM | Reply

"ISIS is gone"

LOL. turn off fox.

#183 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-15 10:27 PM | Reply

"Yeah - except they rely on exactly the same underlying evidence - namely, FISA warrants on Page, Papadopolous attempted set-up, etc. "

A CI investigation could rely on SIGNIT from our own govt as well as other 5 Eyes countries, and any other countries for that matter, who wanted to turn it over to us.

#184 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-05-15 10:28 PM | Reply

" He has failed, partially, on the wall. But, it is being built now..."

Some Trumperphluffers will swallow anything the Dotard jizzzes out.

#185 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-05-15 10:32 PM | Reply

"He has failed, partially, on the wall. But, it is being built now in face of 100% unified Dem resistance."

It is?
Where?

#186 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-15 10:43 PM | Reply

"But, I do support a border wall, better trade deals, an economy that works for average Americans and raises wages, and NO MORE WARS."

Trump has given you exactly zero of those things.
Of course, that's also the same track record as the GOP itself.

#187 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-05-15 10:45 PM | Reply

Trump sucks cause all of the last presidents in two decades have given us an economy that works, less immigration, no wars or skirmishes, and perpetual BJs

#188 | Posted by mutant at 2019-05-15 10:55 PM | Reply

"Obama had to bail out farmers 15 billion because he had NO IDEA what he was doing with china trade?"

He knows EXACTLY what he is doing - you either don't or refuse to admit it. China has TWO issues where the US actually exports products to them - Agriculture and Financial Services. So, it is 100% expected that the Chinese will try to retaliate - everyone knew this. The question is how long will they put up a fight before folding - Trump, along with other thinking people, know China is in a weak position now and it is literally now or never to negotiate a new trade deal. Obama did NOTHING about Chinese trade - you know this. You probably even acknowledge it is a problem - it is just that you and the Dems lack the brains and fortitude to address it - just like illegal immigration. Sorry, but 'kick the can down the road' isn't a viable policy any longer.

"The rest of your post is nonsense. A high stock market isn't a good economy for the average american.
#182 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE AT 2019-05-15 10:25 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

Actually, yes it is for everyone with a 401(k). On top of that, we have real rise in wages at a faster rate than inflation - first time in decades. Obama couldn't deliver that. Once the illegals issue is solved, wages will rise even faster. Further, he accomplished this in the face of a global slow down and the Fed moving rates off the 0% Obama was gifted for 8 years.

""ISIS is gone"
LOL. turn off fox.
#183 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE "

I can't find the caliphate on a map. I could under Obama but it no longer seems to exist. Can you point it out? Thanks!

#189 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-15 11:16 PM | Reply

tl;dr

#190 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-05-15 11:48 PM | Reply

"tl;dr
#190 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE"

I will simplify it for you:

"I can't find the caliphate on a map. I could under Obama but it no longer seems to exist. Can you point it out? Thanks!"

I think this is the 3rd time I have asked you for this information and you have yet to provide it. Why is that?

#191 | Posted by iragoldberg at 2019-05-16 12:01 AM | Reply

The orange sloth is venturing where lawyers aren't supposed to go in ways he learned from the disbarred and discredited Roy Cohn. Trump was probably hoping Cohen was up to the tasks that Cohn took on. Barr is trying.

#192 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-05-16 07:41 AM | Reply

"Actually, yes it is for everyone with a 401(k). On top of that, we have real rise in wages at a faster rate than inflation - first time in decades. Obama couldn't deliver that. Once the illegals issue is solved, wages will rise even faster. Further, he accomplished this in the face of a global slow down and the Fed moving rates off the 0% Obama was gifted for 8 years. "

Yesterday I read an article about south Florida construction, where 80 high rise buildings in Miami are under construction and 50 here in Broward Dounty. The article said that many or all of them will not be completed due to Trump's tariffs on building materials, including steel, from China. A 25% increase in cost breaks their budgets so these buildings will likely go uncompleted.....just like they did in 2008 with the associated loss of jobs. And, don't expect an American company to expand to fill in the gap based only on an EO by a President who may or may not be in office in 2021. Tariffs need to be enacted by Congress so that manufacurers can feel secure in their investments in new factories.

#193 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-16 08:14 AM | Reply

#191 | Posted by iragoldberg

I don't understand Trump voters?

I know that they've given up on American democracy, lost interest in it. I know it's because they have an authoritarian orientation.

I know that if Donald Trump consolidates his dictatorship they'll come out of the woodwork explaining that it's right, it's proper. That Trump had no choice.

#194 | Posted by Zed at 2019-05-16 08:58 AM | Reply

"Jim Comey's own words justify Bill Barr's review"
---
Brought to you by the same people who don't believe Team Trump deserved to be "reviewed".

#176 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I produced the writer's bio. Here it is again (read it as many times as necessary):

Kevin R. Brock, former assistant director of intelligence for the FBI, was an FBI special agent for 24 years and principal deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC). He is a founder and principal of NewStreet Global Solutions, LLC.

#195 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-16 10:02 AM | Reply

Tariffs need to be enacted by Congress so that manufacurers can feel secure in their investments in new factories.

#193 | POSTED BY DANNI

I'll go a step futher - Tariffs can only be enacted by congress. They are legislation, not Executive action.

#196 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-05-16 10:03 AM | Reply

By the time the 2020 elections get here, the drive-bys will have had it up to HERE with investigations.
The only one they will remember is that Trump was not found guilty of collusion.
They will however, know that despite the multi millions spent, nothing was settled.
They are sick of the nonstop coup attempts and will gladly yank on the R lever.

#197 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-05-16 10:08 AM | Reply

I think this is the 3rd time I have asked you for this information and you have yet to provide it. Why is that?

#191 | POSTED BY IRAGOLDBERG

ISIS does not need territory to promote terror.

I will answer your question with another.

Osama bin Laden is STILL DEAD.

So why are we STILL in Afghanistan??

#198 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-05-16 10:21 AM | Reply

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