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Saturday, May 11, 2019

Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis said he will sign a bill that would require ex-felons in the state, who were granted the right to vote in a referendum last fall, to pay all financial obligations before they can head to the polls.

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Poll tax. Welcome to Jim Crow Florida. Should be on a billboard at the state line. I am ashamed of my state.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-11 03:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Pay your debt to your victims first. Then you get to vote. Sounds like the proper sequence.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-05-11 03:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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Nulli-the untold Founding Father

#3 | Posted by bocaink at 2019-05-11 05:55 PM | Reply

That stipulation was not on the ballot referendum that we voted on.

#4 | Posted by rosemountbomber at 2019-05-11 07:10 PM | Reply

Pay your debt to your victims first. Then you get to vote. Sounds like the proper sequence.

#2 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-05-11 03:57 PM | REPLY

Paying your debts has never been tied to voting rights. Do you believe people that declare bankruptcy should lose their right to vote as well? Felons have "paid their debt" to society via jail time or whatever else is mandated by the courts. Adding an additional stipulation on top of that is disenfranchising to otherwise legal voters.

#5 | Posted by bartimus at 2019-05-11 08:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The dems give it, the gop takes it.

#6 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-05-11 08:33 PM | Reply

That stipulation was not on the ballot referendum that we voted on.

Exactly. But Nulli and his fellow cave-dwelling Republicans don't care about the will of the people; they only care about hurting people they don't like.

#7 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-11 08:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Felons have "paid their debt" to society via jail time or whatever else is mandated by the courts.

Like paying reparations, which is included in "whatever else is mandated by the courts"?

I wonder how the victims of the crimes who were ordered reparations paid to by the convicted felons feel about this...

All I know is that according to the Penal Code in the State of California, your sentence isn't over until you finish your reparations payments to your victim(s).

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-05-11 08:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Poll tax.

Nope. legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com A fine imposed as part of a criminal sentence is not "[a] A specified sum of money levied upon each person who votes."

That stipulation was not on the ballot referendum that we voted on.

Sure it was. That you didn't comprehend the implications of the word "sentence" is of no moment.
https://dos.myflorida.com/media/699824/constitutional-amendments-2018-general-election-english.pdf

See also Florida Rules of Criminal Procedure, Rule 3.986 (d) Form for Sentencing.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjIzsXN55TiAhUQ26wKHZVJCyQQFjAAegQIABAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flcourts.org%2Fcontent%2Fdownload%2F217910%2F1973406%2FFlorida-Rules-of-Criminal-Procedure.pdf&usg=AOvVaw0TISYTCE7XD0mbDMBYcK12

#9 | Posted by et_al at 2019-05-11 09:24 PM | Reply

If its some corporate CEO, I am not sure why people would be against this?

If you were a woman that was raped and sexually abused, you are saying the rapist should be able to vote without paying restitution?

The "debt" to society isn't paid until the, time and restitution is paid.

they only care about hurting people they don't like.

Agreed, I don't like rapist, con artists, drug dealers and other cretins; They broke the social contract, now you are saying they deserve to have a say in the social contract?

Its like a kid that can't clean his room, telling us how to run the global economy or environment.

Do you believe people that declare bankruptcy should lose their right to vote as well?

did they rape someone? Directly steal someones retirement? That is really a pretty poor argument.

#10 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-05-11 09:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

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People convicted of murder or sexual crimes like rape, are NOT eligible under this program to have their franchise restored.

OCU

#11 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-05-12 01:35 AM | Reply

The GOP figures that they'll hurt DNC by taking minorities out of the voting bloc. What they don't count on is Hispanic Americans from Puerto Rico are replacing those African Americans from the rosters. They're making the assumption that Puertoricans will vote along the same lines as Cuban Americans. Native Puertoricans don't forget. They're pissed at the GOP. And the GOP can't do a thing about it. We'll see more underhandedness directed towards Puertoricans in Florida in the months to come.

GOP will start whoring themselves to Puertoricans. We're not hillbillies. You'll find us very educated and determined to fkcu Trump over in 2020.

#12 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-05-12 02:05 AM | Reply

I can see why non-violent felons might have a case, but why would anyone ever want violent felons to get the right to vote again? They've already violated the social contract, and would only vote for leftists anyway. NPR "stories" aside. Leftists love to be told "stories", especially at bedtime, because they are children.

#13 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-05-12 02:30 AM | Reply

"I wonder how the victims of the crimes who were ordered reparations paid to by the convicted felons feel about this..."

No you don't, that never crossed your mind. What your really wonder is if this excuse to prevent several million black, hispanic and white voters who hate the Republican extablishment from voting will stand up in court. You just want to suppress their votes, be a man, don't lie -------.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-12 08:05 AM | Reply

"I can see why non-violent felons might have a case, but why would anyone ever want violent felons to get the right to vote again? They've already violated the social contract, and would only vote for leftists anyway. NPR "stories" aside. Leftists love to be told "stories", especially at bedtime, because they are children."

Everyone deserves the right to vote, you shouldn't have the right to decide who does and who does not have the right to vote or else we are just bringing back Jim Crow. That is what this is about, white power. So many of these people are black and hispanic that the white power structure in Florida is panicing and trying to justify voter suppression as they do in so many states.
Hey, in Texas they passed a law to make it illegal to drive 3 people to the polls, why would they do that liar? You people absolutely disgust me.

#15 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-12 08:11 AM | Reply

"Agreed, I don't like rapist, con artists, drug dealers and other cretins; They broke the social contract, now you are saying they deserve to have a say in the social contract? "

Who in the hell do you think you are kidding. YOUR President did all of those things. Should he have the right to vote? Racist? I think so. Yes you are. The difference between Donald Trump and convicted Felons in Florida? They served their time. They are more honorable than you and Trump.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-12 08:15 AM | Reply

They broke the social contract, now you are saying they deserve to have a say in the social contract?

So did every person who voted for Trump. Regardless, the people of Florida voted to give them a say in the social contract, so your feelings are irrelevant.

People convicted of murder or sexual crimes like rape, are NOT eligible under this program to have their franchise restored.

People like Andrea have never cared about facts.

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-12 08:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

People like Andrea favor any law or any restriction of voting rights that benefits the Republican Party just like the Republican leadership. They know they can't win without voter suppression, out right cheating and computer hacking. We all know this is true, even their own children know this is true. America is an oligarchy not a democracy and don't let anyone tell you otherwise because they are lying.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2019-05-12 08:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Someone correct my public school education:
"When someone commits A FELONY (not a misdemeanor, not a traffic citation), they give up certain rights in our society, like the right to vote and the right to own a gun."

Use small words if you need to. Explain where my education went wrong.

#19 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-05-12 05:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Explain where my education went wrong.

Sorry, RCade limits us to 10,000 words per post.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2019-05-12 06:59 PM | Reply

The GOP figures that they'll hurt DNC by taking minorities out of the voting bloc.

Those "minorities" took themselves out by committing a felony. Maybe the society/culture of those "minorities" should address why people in their bloc are committing crimes to begin with.

#21 | Posted by boaz at 2019-05-13 07:52 AM | Reply

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