Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, April 21, 2019

Grand Rapids could soon have an ordinance that would make it a criminal misdemeanor to racially profile people of color for "participating in their lives."

Advertisement

More

Comments

Admin's note: Participants in this discussion must follow the site's moderation policy. Profanity will be filtered. Abusive conduct is not allowed.

MFA:

In recent years, DeRoo said Grand Rapids police have been unnecessarily dispatched to situations due to 911 calls that were perhaps made due to implicit bias or discrimination. He cited a summer 2017 gathering in Mulick Park in which police were called to break up a large gathering of African American community members. Multiple patrol vehicles were sent to the park before it was determined that it was a graduation party.

...

DeRoo also pointed to an Oct. 9 incident in which police received a call from a woman who claimed she witnessed a shooting at her neighbor's house. Police investigated the call, and in the process handcuffed a 12-year-old girl at gunpoint, before determining that there were no weapons or shooting victims on scene.

DeRoo also pointed to an Oct. 9 incident in which police received a call from a woman who claimed she witnessed a shooting at her neighbor's house. Police investigated the call, and in the process handcuffed a 12-year-old girl at gunpoint, before determining that there were no weapons or shooting victims on scene.

#1 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-04-21 04:57 AM | Reply

The comments are golden.

It's pretty much a bunch of people asking if they are to just wait around to be killed by the people at the graduation party that they want the cops to bust up.

#2 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-04-21 05:22 AM | Reply

Good

Don't know GR MI 911 procedures but around here it sends police, fire and EMS for any call. That costs hundreds of dollars for each call. I don't want to pay more in taxes because a person of color going about their lives makes you nervous.

#3 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-04-21 09:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Seriously, this law implicitly only criminalizes racial bias by people belonging to one racial group? Disgusting. White nationalist groups will eat this stuff up, but I guess that's the point, eh?

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-21 12:18 PM | Reply

Learn to read.
Then recognize the problem this law is attempting to remedy.

A better solution is to require 911 operators to determine if the caller is a racist PoS before deciding who to arrest. After a few busybodies get cuffed and finger printed the message might sink in.

#5 | Posted by bored at 2019-04-21 01:39 PM | Reply

"Seriously, this law implicitly only criminalizes racial bias by people belonging to one racial group? Disgusting. White nationalist groups will eat this stuff up, but I guess that's the point, eh?
#4 | POSTED BY SENTINEL"

Case in point:
Your post.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-21 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Make filing a false police report a felony and start locking up the alt-right racist (R)tards that are doing it.

#7 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-04-21 03:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Learn to read.

I can't read your mind, because I'm not illiterate.

"Then recognize the problem this law is attempting to remedy."

Two wrongs don't make a right. Passing or even proposing a law which fits the very definition of institutional racism will not alleviate the problem of societal bias.

A better solution is to require 911 operators to determine if the caller is a racist PoS before deciding who to arrest.

What a moronic statement. Are the operators going through he held liable if they fail to do that? Will they need to identity the race of the person calling before they send someone out? You clearly haven't thought this through.

After a few busybodies get cuffed and finger printed the message might sink in.

There are already laws against abusing or misusing 911.

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-21 04:23 PM | Reply

"The proposed ordinance puts a prohibition on any person denying another individual the enjoyment of civil rights, or for any person to discriminate against an individual in the exercise of civil rights because of actual or perceived color, race, religion or creed, sex, gender, identity or expression, sexual orientation, national origin, genotype, age, marital status, medical condition, disability, height, weight, or source of lawful income."

There's nothing implicity racist about that proposal, Sentinel.

I guess the world looks different through the eyes of a Swastika lover.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-21 04:29 PM | Reply

LOL poor sentinel is all worried about that reverse racism!

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2019-04-21 06:52 PM | Reply

Advertisement

Advertisement

As a liberal dem, I ask: why is this law needed? Enforce the law already on the books, and make it a felony to call 911 on bogus reasons; THEN there won't be these outrageous episodes.

#11 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-04-21 07:43 PM | Reply

The comments are golden.

The comments were cringe worthy.

Apparently there are a ton of people in Grand Rapids who think black people being loud is 911 worthy.

#12 | Posted by jpw at 2019-04-21 07:43 PM | Reply

Well, that's progress. Grand Rapids is heavily Republican.

#13 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-04-21 09:12 PM | Reply

"As a liberal dem, I ask: why is this law needed?"

If you take the headline and summary at face value, the purpose is apparently to Make Institutional Racism Great Again. I can almost guarantee you that the people pushing this law with this language are on Team Trump.

"Enforce the law already on the books,"

Agreed.

"and make it a felony to call 911 on bogus reasons;"

What about the woman who called 911 when she was being robbed at a McDonalds restaurant? Should she have been charged with a felony?

"THEN there won't be these outrageous episodes."

Ha, as long as clickbait is legal there will always be outrageous episodes.

#14 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-21 09:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

A better solution is to require 911 operators to determine if the caller is a racist PoS before deciding who to arrest.

Good call on that one.

Operator: Hello 911

Caller: I'd like to report some suspicious activity.

O: Are they black? Are you white? Have you been active in social media? Are you a member of Qanon? Do you believe that there was a sex ring being operated out of a pizza shop basement that has no basement? Do you believe that Obama was born in Kenya? Indonesia? Do you believe that Joe Arpaio found Obama's legitimate birth certificate? Do you think Puerto Rico is milking it? Do you think African nations are ---------? Do you like Norway and Sweden? Would you rather have a black lab or a yellow lab? Do you think Trayvon was a skittles eating, watermelon drank punk? Do you think Aunt Becky was just trying to level the playing field against unfair affirmative action quotas? Do you own a MAGA hat? How many black friends do you have? Do you bowl? Did you know about the Bowling Green Massacre? Do you even know about the great things Frederick Douglass is doing these days?

[dial tone]

O: Hello? Hello?

#15 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-04-22 08:12 AM | Reply

As a member of the American colored citizenry, when I -- and many like me -- read articles like these we immediately know it's just a bunch of White American politicians covering their backsides. In other words, it's just for show. Hispanics comprise of almost 30k according to the 2010 census.

I mean, look at this here. Mostly white American men trying fix the colored American problem online. How really friggin' big of you.

Or as the MAGAts say, "How mighty white of you, sir."

I wonder how many white Americans donated their time, efforts, and money to helping Puerto Rico recovering from Hurricane Maria?

I bet you it was a lot less than all the White Americans that comment on Drudge Retort about fixing the colored American dilemma in America.

#16 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-04-22 08:53 AM | Reply

Buncha kids at Worlds of Fun just "participating in their lives". Oops..someone called the po-po.

www.kansascity.com

#17 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-04-22 09:02 AM | Reply

I wonder what motivates #17 to post an incident that would warrant a call to the police in a thread about illegitimate calls to the police?

#18 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-04-22 09:11 AM | Reply

"I wonder what motivates #17 to post an incident that would warrant a call to the police in a thread about illegitimate calls to the police?"

I think we all know what motivates a post like that.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-22 09:41 AM | Reply

I don't know how a law like this would be enforced.

To me, it seems like it would be a deterrent from people calling the police at all, especially if minorities are involved.

It seems like a solution in search of a problem.

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-04-22 10:09 AM | Reply

Holding white people accountable. Not a good track record.

#21 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-04-22 10:25 AM | Reply

It seems like a solution in search of a problem.

#20 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-04-22 10:09 AM | REPLY

It only seems that way to people who willfully ignore all of the reported instances of the problem. There are numerous instances of the problem readily available

Funny how the people opposing this law that addresses an actual problem are demanding voter ID laws to fix an imaginary problem which numerous lengthy and expensive studies have failed to find evidence exists.

A quick google search can find more verifiable reports of police getting called for black people participating in normal activities in the last 6-12 months than the searches for evidence of voter impersonation have found over a 20 year period.

#22 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-22 10:55 AM | Reply

#20 will never have to worry about his kid's graduation party being busted up over nothing.

#23 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-04-22 11:59 AM | Reply

I guess it's different in Grand Rapids but if you have a large gathering of any group of people that hasn't already been publicized in some way, the cops show up where I live. Always have. Especially if there is partying involved, which I'm assuming there was some kind of exuberance since it was a graduation party.

I remember spray painting some chairs black in a parking lot where I lived, on the asphalt that is also black. After about 15 minutes, a cop car rushed up and ran out of his car all the way around my apartment building. Then came over to us and asked if we had been doing that and asked some other questions. Apparently, someone called the cops saying a couple people were spray painting all over the neighborhood. So, I guess this is reason why a law should be passed that you can't call the cops on a white guy.

See how stupid and ridiculous that sounds? Until there are metrics to show that this is actually a serious problem, any action taken is knee jerk and absurd. There are bogus calls on a LOT of situations, so are they going to start making laws like this to cover every situation in which people make bogus calls? Probably not, because it's not racial. And once someone adds race to the mix, metrics and facts are no longer relevant or regarded.

#24 | Posted by humtake at 2019-04-22 12:10 PM | Reply

See how stupid and ridiculous that sounds? Until there are metrics to show that this is actually a serious problem, any action taken is knee jerk and absurd. There are bogus calls on a LOT of situations, so are they going to start making laws like this to cover every situation in which people make bogus calls? Probably not, because it's not racial. And once someone adds race to the mix, metrics and facts are no longer relevant or regarded.

#24 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE AT 2019-04-22 12:10 PM | REPLY |

A good start would be to reduce the police presence to levels that reflect the decline in crime so we don't have 15 bored cops rushing to every minor call.

We don't need 1990 levels of police to fight 2018 levels of crime.

#25 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-22 12:42 PM | Reply

#18 Because 1 minute before the fight broke out, 300 kids were just participating in their lives. A little presence could have prevented the whole thing. An ounce of prevention... that old saw.

#26 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-04-22 02:22 PM | Reply

We aren't talking about 300 rowdy kids. We are talking about a person waiting for a friend at starbucks, barbequing in a public park, swimming in a public pool, golfing, campaigning door to door, mowing their lawn, babysitting at the park, working as a home inspector, delivering newspapers, cashing a paycheck.

All nefarious activities, no?

Stop trying to pretend we care if you call the police on illegal activity. We are talking about normal people engaged in every day activities having the police called on them.

300 kids at a party hell I'd call the cops and report all of their parents that I could identify to CPS

#27 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-22 03:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

BBQing in a park with a no open flame law is a bad example.
Swimming in a pool with socks on is gross, and against the pool rules.

I don't know about your other examples, but white people get the cops called on them for no reason too. ---- happens.

#28 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-04-22 06:17 PM | Reply

but white people get the cops called on them for no reason too. ---- happens

Provide examples with links. Bpth siderism does t work on this one.

#29 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-22 06:58 PM | Reply

www.cnn.com

Show us a similar pattern for police getting called on whites doing this kind of stuff.

#30 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-22 07:06 PM | Reply

^^^^ ~crickets~

#31 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-04-22 07:43 PM | Reply

Come on now if it happens to whites too you should be able to find at least one example as wuivkly as we found the dozens against blacks.

Back up your bs or admit you are wrong. We will wait

#32 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-22 07:58 PM | Reply

Quickly even

#33 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-22 07:58 PM | Reply

Meanwhile in Dallas, TX, the new DA is proposing to do away with prosecution of thefts of "necessary items" which are under $750. If you don't like this then you are a bigoted hater racist nazi who's actively preventing "black and brown bodies" from "participating in their lives". Take that, whitey!

#34 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-04-22 11:31 PM | Reply

Meanwhile in Dallas, TX, the new DA is proposing to do away with prosecution of thefts of "necessary items" which are under $750. If you don't like this then you are a bigoted hater racist nazi who's actively preventing "black and brown bodies" from "participating in their lives". Take that, whitey!

#34 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE AT 2019-04-22 11:31 PM | REPLY

Theft is theft. No relation to this thread. This is about 100% legal activities. Next deflection?

#35 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-22 11:57 PM | Reply

Meanwhile in Dallas, TX, the new DA is proposing to do away with prosecution of thefts of "necessary items" which are under $750. If you don't like this then you are a bigoted hater racist nazi who's actively preventing "black and brown bodies" from "participating in their lives". Take that, whitey!

#34 | POSTED BY BERSERKONE AT 2019-04-22 11:31 PM | REPLY |

Never mind that most welfare goes to single white females. But don't let facts get in the way of your racist assumption the DA is trying to legalize theft for brown people

#36 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-23 12:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Show us a similar pattern for police getting called on whites doing this kind of stuff."

The pattern you're referring to appears to be based on clickbait stories. The corporate media ignores the vast majority of dubious police calls, so of course any searches on the Internet will be skewed.

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-23 09:26 AM | Reply

so of course any searches on the Internet will be skewed.

#37 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Not if you wanted to find it. If you wanted to find stories that supported your point you would find them. Surely Breitbart or Fixed news will have it posted somewhere even if it is not true.

#38 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-04-23 09:45 AM | Reply

IF YOU SEE SOMETHING...

Don't bother to say anything...

We are not here to serve and protect you...

#39 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-04-23 09:55 AM | Reply

Provide examples with links. Bpth siderism does t work on this one.

#29 | POSTED BY HATTER5183

You want links that white people get the cops called on them for no reason?
Do you want one for proving water is wet?

Were your other examples as bad as the two I pointed out?
Complaining that somebody called the cops on you when you're breaking a law, regardless of how stupid, is a silly thing to do.

#40 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-04-23 01:08 PM | Reply

32
You poor thing.
Why would I admit to something that is obviously a figment of your imagination?

#41 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-04-23 01:11 PM | Reply

Complaining that somebody called the cops on you when you're breaking a law, regardless of how stupid, is a silly thing to do.

#40 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE AT 2019-04-23 01:08 PM | REPLY

That's not the subject of this thread. The subject of this thread is people calling the cops on black people doing completely normal legal activities. The same stuff the white people next to them are doing without having anyone call the police on them.

Mowing a lawn
playing golf
babysitting kids at the park
waiting for a friend at Starbucks
campaigning door to door
shopping for prom clothes
asking for directions
eating lunch in a college cafeteria
working as a firefighter
delivering newspapers
cashing a paycheck
making a phone call in a hotel lobby

#42 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-23 01:24 PM | Reply

Your very first example is another crap example.
It was on ongoing dispute between neighbors.
The police told them to call them instead of confronting the neighbors if they felt the confrontation could escalate the matter.

I'm sure black people doing nothing wrong get the cops called on them, just as I'm sure the same for white people.

These "...while black" incidents were popular last year and they were always using horrible examples to further the narrative.

#43 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-04-23 01:45 PM | Reply

Enforce the law already on the books, and make it a felony to call 911 on bogus reasons; THEN there won't be these outrageous episodes.

#11 | POSTED BY E1G1 AT 2019-04-21 07:43 PM | REPLY

Btw, I'm on board with this 100%.
If they waste public resources they should be Hammered.

#44 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-04-23 01:55 PM | Reply

"These "...while black" incidents were popular last year"

Last year?

They've been popular since Rodney King was beaten by police for Driving While Black.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-23 02:52 PM | Reply

Are they not popular anymore? Are they so commonplace we don't even see them as a problem?

I think its more that the people who SHOULD be offended by them never were and see legitimate grievances as whining.

I don't understand their need to pretend it happens to everyone. It doesn't. I have never been pulled over while driving by myself. I have been pulled over as a passenger in a car driven by a black man several times and every time there was a weak excuse like not maintaining distance behind the car in front of us or "I saw your tail light flicker". Each time we were pulled out of the car patted down, "detained" while they searched the car before being released when they found nothing.

These cases didn't start last year. They have been happening all along. The black community has been telling us all along. They have not been heard. Now that cell phone cameras are everywhere we are starting to see that they have been telling the truth all along.

#46 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-04-23 04:23 PM | Reply

Racial profiling is gay. It sucks when it happens, and I believe it does happen in many places. Not every example of busybodying or bullying is racial profiling when a minority is involved, although these white knights who've been trying to "help" the black community by jumping on every example they can find and turning it into a "while black" meme game seem to be trying to convey that message. Of course people are going to become desensitized and tune out after its been over-egged and mixed with dubious examples.

#47 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-23 08:33 PM | Reply

Comments are closed for this entry.

Home | Breaking News | Comments | User Blogs | Stats | Back Page | RSS Feed | RSS Spec | DMCA Compliance | Privacy | Copyright 2019 World Readable

Drudge Retort