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Last summer, Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.) drew skepticism and ridicule from the media and Republicans when he claimed that Russian hackers had gained access to local election systems in his state. Eight months later, special counsel Robert Mueller's report appears to back him up.

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If true, that would appear to support Nelson's claim, which Republicans mocked and used against him in his unsuccessful reelection bid in November.

In August 2018, Nelson warned that Russians had penetrated some county governments in his state. "They have already penetrated certain counties in the state and they now have free rein to move about," Nelson told the Tampa Bay Times. "We were requested by the chairman and vice chairman of the Intelligence Committee to let supervisors of election in Florida know that the Russians are in their records."

The response to Nelson, who said the evidence for his claim was classified, was sweeping and negative. Republicans and the media alike painted his comments as dangerous make-believe.


Why anyone believes we are guaranteed free and fair elections in the future is beyond me.

#1 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-19 02:41 PM | Reply

I would love to know what FL county was accessed:

Sam Levine @srl

New statement from Florida SoS: "Upon learning of the new information released in the Mueller report, the Department immediately reached out to the FBI to inquire which county may have been accessed, and they declined to share this information with us."

Also, Mueller report confirms Russia got into Illinois voter files:

Sam Levine @srl

Mueller report confirms Russia got into the voter file in Illinois and extracted data. Says Russia also targeted private companies that help run elections, FBI believes gained access to network of at least one Florida county govt. (pp. 50-51)

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-19 08:44 PM | Reply

Traitorous --------!! Ask yourself 'why?' they wouldn't want to ensure our electoral process is safe from meddling by our adversaries:

Republicans block $250 million to beef up election security

Published 7:20 p.m. ET Aug. 1, 2018

WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic push Wednesday that would have provided $250 million to beef up election security.

The money would have been doled out in grants through the Federal Election Assistance Commission and helped, among other things, replace outdated voting equipment and increase cybersecurity efforts.

But the amendment failed Wednesday on a 50-49 vote, 10 votes shy of the 60 needed for it to pass. The votes fell almost entirely on party lines as only one Republican -- Sen. Bob Corker (Tenn.) -- voted for the grant.

"The integrity of our elections, which are the foundation of our democracy, should not be a partisan issue," Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.), who proposed the amendment, said in a statement. "It is unfortunate that the Senate has followed the same path as House Republicans in blocking the funding our states need to help upgrade their infrastructure and secure our elections."

www.usatoday.com

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-04-19 08:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We are totally unprepared to protect ourselves for the 2020 election:

Experts say a coordinated online disinformation campaign targeting 2020 elections is already underway, using techniques developed and refined by the Kremlin during the U.S. presidential elections in 2016.

Evgeny Popov, the host of 60 Minutes, the most popular state TV program in Russia as of 2018, is defiant about the findings in the Mueller report. Popov tells me: "Soon, we will help you elect Trump once again. Just like the last time. Get ready!"

www.thedailybeast.com

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-19 09:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


There are two problems here. Two very huge problems.

1) Russia is hacking our election processes at many levels to undermine our Democracy.

2) #1 has been made into a political issue, not a national security issue.

Unless and until we start treating these Russians attempts to undermine our Democracy as the national security threats they are, we will be subjected to them.


#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-04-20 11:41 PM | Reply

Funny... I just tried to crate a poll on this topic, but i was not able to because I seemed to be stuck n some weird save/preview loop with no message telling me what the problem was. Oh well, another site bug... :(

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-04-20 11:54 PM | Reply


@#4 ... We are totally unprepared to protect ourselves for the 2020 election: ...

It is worse than we are totally unprepared. It is at the point (Helsinki) where we are actively denying what our security agencies are telling us and believing instead what our enemy is saying.

We are not in a safe place.


#7 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-04-20 11:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

and i contended this well over a year ago. I AM NOT A CONSPIRACY GUY. i totally understand why russia was doing the social media thing, that was just dirty politics brought up to date. i think the trump cartel were working with them, but i think it was more like working FOR them. this is what mueller faced. it's hard to prove What they were doing in/if coordination with russia but absolutely impossible to prove intent or show state of mind..no conviction from mueller.
Now here is the thing that always intrigued me.
1. why did manafort pass that polling data to the russians
2.we all know that voting machines can be hacked
3.remember what the memo quoted russia about...when they started it was just to be disruptive and after trump became a real possibility they became particularly in his favor. speaking as a criminal, if i were a russian and i could hack the vote, i would in no way let trump or anyone else in on it. 77,000 votes in key districts that manafort provided polling data on. over 3 million more votes in the general
for clinton. that's 39 to 1 in specific districts. that's drawing to royal flushes 3 times in a row.
4.i'd sure like to hear any other reason that polling data would be so valuable

#8 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-04-21 01:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


@#8 ... i totally understand why russia was doing the social media thing, that was just dirty politics brought up to date. ...

Yup.

And to that point...

According to the Mueller report, Russia started playing to sow discord in our Democracy in 2015 or so, before Donald Trump had announced. At that point the discord was agnostic, regarding who was targeted. It was our Democracy in general that was targeted, nothing and no one in specific.

Continuing according to the Mueller Report, somewhere the Russians' strategy changed from sowing discord to favoring candidate Trump over candidate Clinton.

That change of behavior and its timing, in and of itself, raises all manner of questions.

The Mueller Report is an amazing thing to read....

#9 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-04-21 01:46 AM | Reply

Russia tried to hack election officials in all 50 states, now we are allowed to know about 2 instances where they succeeded. I am fairly certain that the Russian hacking was ALOT more pervasive and effective then we are permitted to know.

BTW a young woman is in jail for letting us know this a couple of years ago.

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-04-21 01:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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Why anyone believes we are guaranteed free and fair elections in the future is beyond me.
#1 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

In this age of technology, not even a kindergartner would believe that.

#11 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-04-21 10:03 AM | Reply

not even a kindergartner would believe that.

#11 | POSTED BY PHESTEROBOYLE

Maybe THAT explains the why some loonies here would not believe we were and still are under a cyber attack by a hostile foreign government.

These apparent toddlers haven't even made it to kindergarten yet!!

Their extreme attempts to deny and ridicule anyone who suggested we were and still under attack made me think they might actually be Traitorous Russian Bots!!

Silly me!!

#12 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-04-21 10:23 AM | Reply

Simple fact is that those elections were on obama&Co's watch.

#13 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-04-21 01:02 PM | Reply

Not really Obama's watch because each state runs their own elections.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-21 01:28 PM | Reply

"Simple fact is that those elections were on obama&Co's watch."

Using an outdated talking point here is like rubbing salt in the wounds of American democracy. Disgusting comment comrade!

#15 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-21 03:01 PM | Reply

So, today we know that Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis were elected under a cloud of Russian influence, neither are legitimate office holders and neither ever will be. And then Republicans did as AU said above:

"WASHINGTON -- Senate Republicans blocked a Democratic push Wednesday that would have provided $250 million to beef up election security.

The money would have been doled out in grants through the Federal Election Assistance Commission and helped, among other things, replace outdated voting equipment and increase cybersecurity efforts. "

I'm sorry but Republicans are unpatriotic pieces of garbage. If you vote for them you're one of them and stink just as badly as they do. And it's not enough to not vote for them, we all need to use our votes in the most effective way to defeat them at every level of government. To do less today is to spit on your flag.

#16 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-21 03:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Dems need to hire dozens of hackers immediately and get busy winning 2020.

Fair fights are for suckers.

#17 | Posted by Docman at 2019-04-21 03:22 PM | Reply

somewhere the Russians' strategy changed from sowing discord to favoring candidate Trump over candidate Clinton.
That change of behavior and its timing, in and of itself, raises all manner of questions.

Because Trump does a better job of sowing discord in this country than any Russian ever could. They recognized that.

#18 | Posted by JOE at 2019-04-21 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Because Trump does a better job of sowing discord in this country than any Russian ever could. They recognized that.
#18 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-04-21 04:17 PM | FLAG: NEWSWORTHY

I think there's some Trump supporters that can even agree with that statement.

#19 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-04-21 04:26 PM | Reply

Simple fact is that those elections were on obama&Co's watch.
#13 | POSTED BY MSGT

Even after it's been proven that Russia meddled in our elections, Trump STILL refuses to beef up cyber-security around elections.

B. Hussein deserves a certain amount of fault, yes. But suggesting that's some how more egregious than what's currently taking place, or lack there of for that matter, is simply pathetic.

It's one thing to be inept (B. Hussein). It's another to be complicit (Trump).

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-04-21 04:31 PM | Reply

"...were elected under a cloud of Russian influence, neither are legitimate office holders and neither ever will be."
#16 | POSTED BY DANNI

"Abolish the gov't!! Install Democrats behind the point of a bayonet!

It's the only WAY!!

#21 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-04-21 04:31 PM | Reply

"Abolish the gov't!! Install Democrats behind the point of a bayonet!
It's the only WAY!!
#21 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM"

^
Spoken, as always, like a genuine Bernie Sanders supporter!

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-21 04:34 PM | Reply

#22 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Oh MY! How many votes were changed?

Give us the numbers. and link.

#23 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-04-21 08:40 PM | Reply

I'll make it easier Snoofy.

How many network intrusion events or attempts occur each day in enterprise and gov't systems?

Don't break the googles.

#24 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-04-21 08:43 PM | Reply

#22 don't you mean like a true idiot? I cringe whenever I see that that ------- is back. What a waste of perfectly good carbon.

#25 | Posted by jpw at 2019-04-21 09:25 PM | Reply

One thing I forgot is that Russia gave stolen data to help influence House races in FL and beyond:

Aaron Nevins has worked as a (FL) state legislative aide, lobbyist, political strategist and blogger.

Nevins has said he received a trove of information from Guccifer 2.0, some of which he published on his website and also farmed out some to Florida reporters about congressional primaries in their areas.

This is how it's described in the Mueller report: "On August 22, 2016, the Guccifer 2.0 persona transferred approximately 2.5 gigabytes of Florida-related data stolen from the DCCC to a U.S. blogger covering Florida politics."

www.sun-sentinel.com

Mueller report is a reminder that Russian hack hit House races, too

Stolen information affected more congressional races than the examples in Mueller's report, according to a 2016 report from The New York Times. The Times reported Guccifer 2.0 released documents on candidates in six states: Florida, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Ohio, Illinois and North Carolina.

www.rollcall.com

#26 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-21 10:46 PM | Reply

The meltdown continues.

#27 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-04-21 10:48 PM | Reply

The truth comes out.

#28 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-04-22 07:37 AM | Reply

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