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Tuesday, April 16, 2019

The Chinese billionaire and co-founder of the online shopping giant Alibaba has continued to argue for a 9am to 9pm working day, and a six-day week.

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That will keep them competitive.

#1 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-04-15 11:51 PM | Reply

Ooohhh he's so dreamy.

- The GOP.

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-04-16 10:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 1


Tennessee Ernie Ford - Sixteen Tons
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"You load sixteen tons, what do you get
Another day older and deeper in debt
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go
I owe my soul to the company store "

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-04-16 12:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Couldn't we make it a 14 hour work day, 7 day work week?

We should also reduce the age of eligibility for work to 8 years old.

And we can permanently retire (euthanize) the working class at the age 40.

It's the perfect capitalist endgame.

#4 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-04-16 12:22 PM | Reply

For most people, there is more to life than work. Sure, there are rewards to be found in honest work, but this is ridiculous. Not everyone wants to give over their lives to a job.

#5 | Posted by cbob at 2019-04-16 02:47 PM | Reply

So a CEO wants a 72-hr workweek with no overtime paid?

Color me stunned.

Let's see if Jack Ma is willing to do the same...for the same pay.

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-04-16 02:52 PM | Reply

"9am to 9pm working day, and a six-day week."

Golly, who benefits more from that, the worker or the worker's boss?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I will say this much: there are people who work this many hours, but it takes a heavy toll on the body and on the so-called "work life balance." You really just have to make work your life, problem solved.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 02:58 PM | Reply

As abhorrent as it sounds to western civilizatiin, we need to acknowledge the fact that he isn't just speaking for himself or Alibaba. He is talking about the work model of much of East Asia, and if we aren't careful, fascist China is going to steamroll western democracies.

#9 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-04-16 02:58 PM | Reply

Employee: do we get a break?
Jack Ma: 10 minute!

#10 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-04-16 02:59 PM | Reply

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Let's see if Jack Ma is willing to do the same...for the same pay.

According to many of or resident DR ---------, Jack Ma is working harder than all of them combined.

Which is why he deserves to be a billionaire. He's definitely not stealing the profits of his employees' labor.

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-04-16 02:59 PM | Reply

"and if we aren't careful, fascist China is going to steamroll western democracies.
#9 | POSTED BY MUSTANG"

Everyone who didn't vote for Hillary voted for China to steamroll the West.

Wake the eff up.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 03:01 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Would be a break for those serving in the military.

#13 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2019-04-16 03:01 PM | Reply

we aren't careful, fascist China is going to steamroll western democracies.

Is going to?

What is this? The 1970s?

China has been steamrolling us my entire life. I was born in the 80s.

I actually remember seeing MADE IN AMERICA on stuff. Back in my youth. Not so much anymore.

#14 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-04-16 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#14 Nowadays if you want to buy American, you have to go to a thrift store and try to find stuff built before about 1983.

Greed of Wall Street and the One Percent hollowed out the American Dream. We're in a new Gilded Age and Trump is exactly the President we deserve.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 03:14 PM | Reply

#14 I don't mean just economically. They've taken a long look at the failures of Nazi fascism, Marxist communism, and American democracy and they've scrubbed out the weak links. They move slower and more inexorably than the Nazis....they are more open than the Soviets....and they do not have the same freedoms baked into their citizens. They learned German industrial fascism and xenophobia. They learned to crush dissent like Stalin. And they learned manifest destiny from the US.

#16 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-04-16 03:17 PM | Reply

Whereas Trump learned to roll over for Putin.

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 03:18 PM | Reply

"#14 I don't mean just economically."

Okay, but financial power is pretty much the only currency the West has left, in line with "Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households."

Roughly 65 million people who voted to surrender our leadership role in the world. You're one of them.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 03:21 PM | Reply

#18 - Poor guy- You need to try New, Improved Snoof-Away!. It doesn't make you feel any better, but you go away, which makes us feel better.

#19 | Posted by Spork at 2019-04-16 03:29 PM | Reply

12 hr work days? What a p***y.

My first day off this year will be April 29th.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-04-16 03:29 PM | Reply

Spork, you can only take pleasure in other people's suffering.

It's practically the defining personality trait of the Trump supporter.

They are hollow inside.

#21 | Posted by Snoofy at 2019-04-16 03:32 PM | Reply

Call me lazy, but if I had other employment options available on the table, I would not want to work 12 hour days, 6 days a week without some serious benefits like ample vacation time. A friend on a WS trading desk puts in 12 hours/5days a week, but she is also a polyglot and killer at her role.

#22 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-04-16 03:50 PM | Reply

Lazy.

#23 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 03:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Let's see if Jack Ma is willing to do the same...for the same pay.

As a child, Jack Ma rode his bicycle seventy miles round trip for nine years to give tours to English speakers to improve his English...for nothing. So yeah, I don't think it would be a problem for him.

#24 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-16 03:57 PM | Reply

That is why you want a fifteen dollar an hour wage for doing nothing, and he's a forty billion dollar man.

#25 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-16 03:58 PM | Reply

China has cars now.
Probably won't have as many Jack Mas in the future.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 03:59 PM | Reply

And they learned manifest destiny from the US.

#16 | Posted by MUSTANG

No they learned what happens when you let business buy and control the government.

China doesnt have oil companies bribing their government to quit supporting green energy.

#27 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-16 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"China doesnt have oil companies bribing their government to quit supporting green energy."

Oh, they probably do, but if you get caught you get two bullets to the base of the skull.

Here if you get caught you get a Cabinet position.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 04:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

That is why you want a fifteen dollar an hour wage for doing nothing, and he's a forty billion dollar man.

#25 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

No he's a 40 billion dollar man because he's allowed to massively underpay and overwork his employees. They're slaving so he can have more money than he'd ever need in a thousand lifetimes.

#29 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-16 04:18 PM | Reply

Mustang, you raise concerns worthy of consideration. I guess the question is, how much are you/we willing to give up as individuals for the greater good, I.e., America's economic dominance?

Americans have for centuries now busted their tails and, in many cases, laid down their lives for the American way of life, through work, military service, and other contributions. Many times they got back far less than they gave while somebody else got rich. Sometimes the people getting rich "deserve" it, sometimes they don't. Some business owners take care of their employees, some exploit them mercilessly, or grift their way to the top. What's fair? Eye of the beholder.

My late grandmother, a career woman who worked hard her whole life, used to sing a line from a song, "Work your fingers to the bone, what do I get? Bony fingers!"

Are we soft? Compared to generations past, probably so. But unions, regulations and increasing knowledge and mobility have allowed workers to just say no to unreasonable demands. That's progress, as far as I'm concerned. Life is short.

Have we set ourselves up for second-tier economic clout? Maybe. That's a tough one. What do you value? What is accomplishment? Is it wrong to want to spend time with family or just to enjoy yourself now and then? I'm not sure I want my epitaph to be, "He worked his ass off."

#30 | Posted by cbob at 2019-04-16 04:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As a child, Jack Ma rode his bicycle seventy miles round trip for nine years
#24

As a teen, I would ride my bike SEVERAL MILES to the public pool to furtively observe the female lifeguards.

I don't recall anyone GIVING ME A QUARTER! for my efforts.
In fact, I mostly had to BUY my own cigarettes!

That's why I am now KING of my CUL DE SAC and MOW my lawn whenever the BUCK i feel like it, even before 9 a.m. ON A SUNDAY!

Is this guy related to Yo Yo Ma?

I'm not sure I want my epitaph to be, "He worked his ass off."
#30 | POSTED BY CBOB

I think i read somewhere that Hunter/Gatherer humans only 'worked' for a few hours a day, and the rest of the time drank beer and played playstation/air hockey.

#31 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2019-04-16 04:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"I guess the question is, how much are you/we willing to give up as individuals for the greater good, I.e., America's economic dominance?"

^
These types of trade-offs run afoul of their Myth of the Self Made Man.

Ben peddled (no pun intended) that myth exquisitely with his #24.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-16 04:31 PM | Reply

Here's the song I was talking about. Had to google it. The great Hoyt Axton, along with Renee Armand, 1974. youtu.be

#33 | Posted by cbob at 2019-04-16 04:40 PM | Reply

No he's a 40 billion dollar man because he's allowed to massively underpay and overwork his employees. They're slaving so he can have more money than he'd ever need in a thousand lifetimes.

He's a forty billion dollar man because he basically built out the Chinese internet from nothing.

#34 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-16 04:53 PM | Reply

He's a forty billion dollar man because he basically built out the Chinese internet from nothing.

#34 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

...and instead of paying the people who helped him do that a better wage, he kept it for himself.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-16 06:15 PM | Reply

No they learned what happens when you let business buy and control the government.

..and chose to let government control the business instead. That's fascism...government controlled private enterprise.

I guess the question is, how much are you/we willing to give up as individuals for the greater good, I.e., America's economic dominance?

Good question. I agree with OSHA for the most part...I think we are flushing technological superiority down the crapper by allowing foreign students to come to our universities and spy...I would agree with free college for students in STEM fields, but I'd prefer major companies recruit them the way sports teams do athletes...I wish there was a way to curtail our litigious society....

I could do this all night, I suppose.

#36 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-04-16 06:37 PM | Reply

..and chose to let government control the business instead. That's fascism...government controlled private enterprise.

#36 | Posted by MUSTANG

At least in america we elect our government. So if gov controls business, then the people control business. But instead business controls government in america, meaning business controls the people.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-16 06:40 PM | Reply

The president billionaire of America works maybe am hour per day and vacations every weekend, even during a national emergency.

We should all be working proportionally less.

#38 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-04-16 08:46 PM | Reply

#37 Ignoring the absurd notion that the government executes the will of the people.... you would prefer a fascist, state controlled economy to a free capitalist economy?

#39 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-04-16 10:19 PM | Reply

#37 and it's worth noting that most fascist states started out with elected leaders

#40 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-04-16 10:20 PM | Reply

Look ma, no life!

#41 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-04-17 10:52 AM | Reply

Hey why not go all the way and be working for the corporation 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year.

#42 | Posted by Tor at 2019-04-17 11:08 AM | Reply

I did that for awhile and I watched others do it worse than me. Here's what happens just because you want all those things.
You get a day off, all you want to do is sleep.
You're wife starts banging the milkman.
You're kids don't know who you are.
You get sick and you die.
5 weeks later your fellows don't even remember who you were because they struggle with their 12 hours.
Then you stand before God and he asks you "how did you like my offers of beauty of life in this wonderful world"
And you say "oops"

#43 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-04-17 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

An aerospace/semiconductor contraption machinest.
Me: I want to go home.
Boss: you are home.
Me: I'd like to spend some time with my wife.
Boss: that machine is your wife.

#44 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-04-17 11:40 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

You're = your x2

#45 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-04-17 12:00 PM | Reply

And one more thing folks.you work all that time but it affects your family, your child support gets ridiculous. So you have to keep on doing what got you in trouble in the first
Place. It ain't a shame to be poor. You live in America, you don't know what poor is. Live life and love one another. ---- money

#46 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-04-17 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Am I bitter?
No it all is okay

As I typed this a huge white moth sat down beside me in my back yard, of course I know it's gonna lay eggs on my tomatoes
, such is life.

#47 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-04-17 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

As I typed this a huge white moth sat down beside me in my back yard, of course I know it's gonna lay eggs on my tomatoes
, such is life.
#47 | POSTED BY BRUCEAZ

I love this post.

Thanks for sharing, Bruce.

#48 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-04-17 01:50 PM | Reply

Thanks Clown, it meant a lot that someone heard me

#49 | Posted by bruceaz at 2019-04-17 02:13 PM | Reply

Coming soon to a "job" near you.

In fact, it's already here. Companies already decide when and how long you can pee.

Privacy is an illusion and does not exist in America anymore.

Time to take back our information.

#50 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-04-17 04:22 PM | Reply

So, as it turns out, the wealthy, all across the globe, have the common folks' best interests at heart.

All hail the rich.

#51 | Posted by Angrydad at 2019-04-18 08:03 AM | Reply

Haha, awesome! Looks like China is going to have to start dealing with Liberals too now. Good luck. It sucks when much of your population wants to get paid for doing as little as possible. It doesn't suck enough to penalize those who do want to work hard by making them work longer, though.

#52 | Posted by humtake at 2019-04-18 12:47 PM | Reply

"It sucks when much of your population wants to get paid for doing as little as possible."

A Trust Fund Baby can open $50,000 of dividend checks from Proctor & Gamble and owe NO federal taxes. Meanwhile, a janitor profiting $50,000 from sweat-of-the-brow labor owes over $10,000 in federal taxes.

Please tell us: which of these is doing "as little as possible"?

#53 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-04-18 01:05 PM | Reply

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