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Friday, April 12, 2019

Tulsi Gabbard, representative from Hawaii and presidential candidate, turns 38 today. A couple of days ago, she announced that she had received enough donations to be in the DNC Democratic Debates.




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Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, warned that the Justice Department's indictment unsealed Thursday against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange would have repercussions for "every American."

"I think what's happening here is, unfortunately, it is some form of retaliation coming from the government saying, 'Hey, this is what happens when you release information that we don't want you to release,'" said Gabbard, who is running in the 2020 Democratic primary for president, during an interview with CNN on Thursday.

"And I think that's why this is such a dangerous and slippery slope, not only for journalists, not only for those in the media, but also for every American that our government can and has the power to kind of lay down the hammer to say, ‘Be careful, be quiet, and fall in line; otherwise, we have the means to come after you,'" she said.

#1 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-04-12 09:01 AM | Reply

Any journalist who does what Assange has been accused of doing would be arrested, that's true:

These people make it seem as if Assange is being sought by the Eastern District of Virginia for publishing American state secrets rather than for conniving to steal them.

The indictment makes intelligible why a grand jury has charged him. Beginning in January 2010, Chelsea Manning began passing to WikiLeaks (and Assange personally) classified documents obtained from U.S. government servers. These included files on the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and U.S. State Department cables. But Manning ran into difficulties getting more documents, owing to the limitations of her modest security clearance.

At this point Assange allegedly morphed from being a recipient and publisher of classified material into an agent of their illicit retrieval. "On or about March 8, 2010, Assange agreed to assist [Chelsea] Manning in cracking a password stored on United States Department of Defense computers connected to the Secret Internet Protocol Networks, a United States government network used for classified documents and communications," the indictment claims.

Assange allegedly attempted to help Manning do this using a username which was not hers in an effort to cover her virtual tracks. In other words, the U.S. accuses him of instructing her to hack the Pentagon, and offering to help. This is not an undertaking any working journalist should attempt without knowing that the immediate consequence will be the loss of his job, his reputation, and his freedom at the hands of the FBI.


#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-12 10:57 AM | Reply

Regardless of what you think of Assange, it doesn't necessarily invalidate Major Gabbard's opinion. She seems to have a consistent view that "two wrongs don't make a right", and her point is that she sees our goverment as overreacting and overreaching, whether it comes to wars or how it's pursued anyone associated with Wikileaks.

It's unfortunate that people responding to her tweet are making absurd accusations, like accusing her of being a Russian agent or a member of the GOP, on her birthday no less.

#3 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-12 03:28 PM | Reply

This is a good article by someone who knew Assange well and believed in his cause. It outlines all the good things Wikileaks has done but isn't afraid to shine a light on Assange's less than admirable and heroic attributes:

The list of alienated and disaffected allies is long: some say they fell out over redactions, some over broken deals, some over money, some over ownership and control. The roll-call includes Assange's earliest WikiLeaks collaborators, Daniel Domscheit-Berg and "The Architect", the anonymous technical whizz behind much of the WikiLeaks platform. It also features the journalists with whom he worked on the leaked cables: Nick Davies, David Leigh and Luke Harding of the Guardian; the New York Times team; James Ball; and the Freedom of Information campaigner Heather Brooke. Then there are his former lawyer Mark Stephens; Jamie Byng of Canongate Books, who paid him a reported £500,000 advance for a ghostwritten autobiography for which Assange withdrew his co-operation before publication; the Channel 4 team that made a documentary about him which resulted in his unsuccessful complaint to Ofcom that it was unfair and had invaded his privacy; and his former WikiLeaks team in Iceland.

The problem is that WikiLeaks – whose mission statement was "to produce ... a more just society ... based upon truth" – has been guilty of the same obfuscation and misinformation as those it sought to expose, while its supporters are expected to follow, unquestioningly, in blinkered, cultish devotion.


The article was written in 2013, so I wonder now in light of the things that have come out about Assange's work with Russian Military Intelligence and his contacts with members of the Trump campaign and commentators like Sean Hannity, how the author views Assange today.

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-12 03:43 PM | Reply

FFS, you really are obsessed with Assange. Stop hijacking and spamming this thread, which is not about Assange.

#5 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-12 03:46 PM | Reply

"FFS, you really are obsessed with Assange. Stop hijacking and spamming this thread, which is not about Assange."

LOL I'm not obsessed with him; I'm just learning about him. I never followed all this stuff about him in the past.

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-12 03:54 PM | Reply

Happy Birthday, TG!

Tulsi Gabbard, the controversial, long-shot Democratic 2020 candidate, explained

How Gabbard went from rising star to controversial figure.


PS I'm not the one who introduced Assange into this thread.

#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-12 04:04 PM | Reply

The scope of her statement about his arrest was pretty narrow. Articles which focus on his "less than admirable and heroic attributes" and don't even mention TG seem to be way outside of it.

#8 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-12 04:13 PM | Reply

Articles which focus on his "less than admirable and heroic attributes"

Which was followed by a quote listing actual journalists who have fallen out with Assange, because he resisted following the journalistic standards they must live by. In light of what he is now being charged with, this is relevant info, IMO, despite Gabbard's sweeping statements to the contrary.

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-12 04:49 PM | Reply

Happy birthday gabbard, let's go 2020

Gabbard/Pete 2020

#10 | Posted by Ottodog at 2019-04-12 08:50 PM | Reply




You're speaking to a boomer. They taught you things like 2 wrongs dont make a right, but they dont actually believe it.

#11 | Posted by Ottodog at 2019-04-12 08:52 PM | Reply

"he resisted following the journalistic standards they must live by. In light of what he is now being charged with, this is relevant info, IMO, despite Gabbard's sweeping statements to the contrary."

The government does not regulate "journalistic standards".

#12 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-12 09:55 PM | Reply


#13 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-13 05:08 AM | Reply

"What does a hindu?"

It lays eggs.

(get it? get it???) LOL

#14 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-13 05:11 AM | Reply

Gabbard will struggle in the primary but she has a broad centrist appeal for a general.

Funny how all the populism can't win the center people dismiss her when of all the candidates I have seen she would have the best chance of making populism win the center.

#15 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2019-04-13 07:10 AM | Reply

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