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Thursday, April 11, 2019

Julian Assange has been arrested at the Ecuadorian embassy in London, where the WikiLeaks founder was granted refuge in 2012 while on bail in the UK over sexual assault allegations against him in Sweden.

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It's kind of funny that he's been in a kind of self imposed prison for seven years and been driven to insanity by the sounds of it. And now he'll likely face time in prison (after a lengthy extradition process). He probably would be a free man by now if he had just faced the charges immediately.

#1 | Posted by Snowfake at 2019-04-11 07:38 AM | Reply

Now the show starts.

#2 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-04-11 07:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Wow, according to some people this is as big as when they got Osama bin Laden.

#5 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-04-11 08:36 AM | Reply

Good.

#6 | Posted by Zed at 2019-04-11 08:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The lead defender of fake news applauding the imprisonment of a real journalist. Stunner.

#7 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 08:46 AM | Reply

How long before President Donald "I love Wikileaks" Trump pardons him?

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

He has to explain his interference in our elections.

#9 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-04-11 09:04 AM | Reply

Looks like this video is real:

Vic Berger IV @VicBergerIV

In 2010, Trump believed Julian Assange deserved the death penalty.

twitter.com

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump in 2010: WikiLeaks 'disgraceful,' there 'should be like death penalty or something'

www.cnn.com

#11 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:10 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

He has to explain his interference in our elections.

He's going to explain the DNC collusion regarding the investigation of the investigation. Podesta's emails will be completely litigated. You thought Cohen's testimony was good? You're going to love this. This is going to last the entire run-up to the 2020 election, and the DNC will be dragged the entire way.

#12 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 09:14 AM | Reply

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Joshua Green @JoshuaGreen

Hard to overstate the Trump campaign's enthusiasm for Julian Assange. I was backstage at Debate #2 and they literally had an Assange fanboy poster on the wall [:]

Parscale is one of the few within Trump's crew entrusted to tweet on his behalf. He's sitting at a long table in a double-wide trailer behind the debate arena, cheek to jowl with his fellow Trump staffers and Reince Priebus, chairman of the Republican National Committee. The charged atmosphere and rows of technicians staring raptly at giant TVs and computer screens call to mind NASA on launch day. On the wall, a poster of Julian Assange reads: "Dear Hillary, I miss reading your classified emails."

www.bloomberg.com

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The lead defender of fake news applauding the imprisonment of a real journalist.

Real journalists don't become Russian intelligence assets.

Real journalists don't coordinate the release of stolen information with a political campaign to damage its opponent.

#14 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 09:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

Also... real journalists don't become rapists.

At least I don't know any.

#15 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 09:24 AM | Reply

Kim Kardashian can be his lawyer.... in a few years. (see back page)

#17 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 09:31 AM | Reply

Not what a real journalist would do:

Wikileaks: Read the Full Julian Assange Indictment

The indictment accuses Assange of assisting former U.S. intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning in cracking a password that helped Manning infiltrate Pentagon computers

www.nbclosangeles.com

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:36 AM | Reply

Joshua Green

Hard to overstate the Trump campaign's enthusiasm for Julian Assange. I was backstage at Debate #2 and they literally had an Assange fanboy poster on the wall

It's hard to overstate how much Joshua Green fell for Russian Fauxllusion.

#19 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 09:38 AM | Reply

Department of Justice
U.S. Attorney's Office
Eastern District of Virginia

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Thursday, April 11, 2019
WikiLeaks Founder Charged in Computer Hacking Conspiracy

www.justice.gov

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:39 AM | Reply

"Not what a real journalist would do:"

It's not like he was Judith Miller or anything. It's not like his reporting led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

#21 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 09:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Feed Assange's carcass to Cthulhu! (see back page for this too).

#22 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 09:42 AM | Reply

Also not something a real journalist would do:

Ben Collins @oneunderscore__

Reminder: WikiLeaks, fully knowing murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich did not give them hacked documents, repeatedly dogwhistled a conspiracy that he did -- as Rich's family begged people to stop.

Here's WikiLeaks' tweet about Rod Wheeler, a "source" in Fox News' false Seth Rich story.

twitter.com

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Greenwald and Taibbi say he's a real journalist. Since they're two of the five journalists who emerged from Russian Fauxllusion unscathed, and leave more integrity in the toilet than CNN/MSNBC/FOX dorks have in their bodies put together, I'm going with their opinions.

#24 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 09:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democracy dies in darkness.

#25 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-04-11 09:50 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Democracy dies in darkness""

No. It dies in full light-- the light being the spotlights upon a stage where everyone thinks they are the star.

#26 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 09:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Most famous quote of Assange... "I like bringing down Big Bastards".

#27 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 09:53 AM | Reply

#24 Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson and Judge Jeanne say he's one too. Whoop-de-do.

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The indictment accuses Assange of assisting former U.S. intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning in cracking a password that helped Manning infiltrate Pentagon computers

Even if Assange is a real journalist, journalists who help someone break into a system are prosecuted like anybody else. Being a journalist lets you publish information given to you. It doesn't let you break laws to obtain information or conspire with people who do.

#29 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

"Democracy dies in darkness."

That's certainly what happens in Putin's Russia.

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 09:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Even if Assange is a real journalist, journalists who help someone break into a system are prosecuted like anybody else. Being a journalist lets you publish information given to you. It doesn't let you break laws to obtain information or conspire with people who do.

#29 | POSTED BY RCADE

Yes. This.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-04-11 09:56 AM | Reply

This guy has probably already started talking to British Police, MI5 and MI6 about Russian interference in the Brexit vote and the 2016 US presidential election. He must know that if placed in general population he will get the Whitey Bulger greeting, i.e., sudden death. Putin will have him killed, to protect Trump, Russia's #1 asset.

Dangle a long prison term at HMP Birmingham and this guy will start yapping and it will be a long while before he shuts up...

#32 | Posted by catdog at 2019-04-11 09:56 AM | Reply

Being a journalist lets you publish information given to you. It doesn't let you break laws to obtain information or conspire with people who do.

That's literally what Wikileaks exposed in publishing Podesta's emails.

#33 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 09:58 AM | Reply

Even if Assange is a real journalist

I was taught in my journalist days.. the first definition of a journalist is "Do you have a Pres Card? Do you have Press Club membership?"

Otherwise any Huey, Dewey or Louie can get out of bed and claim to be journalists.

Assange is just a hacker who left the box Gawd put him in and tried to be something else. Bloody clown.

#34 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 09:59 AM | Reply

Greenwald and Taibbi say he's a real journalist.

Greenwald and Taibbi are hacks who are cherry-picking parts of the Mueller findings and ignoring other findings so they can run a victory lap with Trump. When Greenwald goes on Fox News he's as happy as a kitten.

Mueller found that Russia attacked our election. Mueller found that Manafort gave a Putin asset polling data. Mueller found that top Trump officials were offered dirt on Hillary by Russian intelligence assets and took the meeting.

But if you want to pretend that the whole Russia investigation is a hoax, good luck with that. No one is stopping Greenwald or Taibbi from looking like fools either.

#35 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 09:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"It's not like he was Judith Miller or anything. It's not like his reporting led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people."

Assange was selective in his leaking. He never leaked anything negative about Putin, e.g. Perhaps what he chose not to leak caused the deaths of innocent people. We'll never know.

#36 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 10:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

A true journalist should oppose all groups and factions within a national security state apparatus and work to hinder and/or disrupt their policies.

#37 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 10:01 AM | Reply

I was taught in my journalist days.. the first definition of a journalist is "Do you have a Pres Card? Do you have Press Club membership?"

I have a degree in journalism. There is no card that makes you a journalist.

What makes you a journalist is to act like one, reporting the facts you've gathered independently and fairly and acknowledging potential conflicts of interest.

#38 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 10:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

A true journalist should oppose all groups and factions within a national security state apparatus and work to hinder and/or disrupt their policies.

You misspelled "activist."

#39 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 10:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

He never leaked anything negative about Putin

Nothing negative about Isreal either but everything negative about the Muslim world.

I am pretty sure he was compromised. Perhaps he was too dumb to figure out he was compromised.

A true journalist should oppose all groups and factions within a national security state apparatus and work to hinder and/or disrupt their policies.

Journalist is journalist. Often hungry for food and truth. Journalist is not Green Lantern.

#40 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 10:06 AM | Reply

Are they going to take away his Sydney Peace Foundation prize? Only him, Mandela, the Lama, and Ikeda have won them.

#41 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-04-11 10:08 AM | Reply

There is no card that makes you a journalist.

There should be.

In many places, it's still the rule.

#42 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 10:08 AM | Reply

"The year 2010 culminated with the Sam Adams Award, which Assange accepted in October,[109] and a string of distinctions in December -- the Le Monde readers' choice award for person of the year,[110][111] the Time readers' choice award for person of the year (he was also a runner-up in Time's overall person of the year award),[112][113] a deal for his autobiography worth at least US$1.3 million,[114][115][116] and selection by the Italian edition of Rolling Stone as "rockstar of the year".[117]"

#43 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-04-11 10:09 AM | Reply

"You misspelled "activist.""

Activism is biased towards one side or the other to seek a fundamental change in opinion that the activist approves of. True journalism simply exposes. Journalism regarding secretive security states will always seek to expose regardless of party or group affiliation.

#44 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 10:10 AM | Reply

And this is a chance for DR's very own Ambulance Chaser to offer his services to Assange... (we know who we are talking of)

#45 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 10:12 AM | Reply

"Journalist is not Green Lantern"

No. But he/she should seek to be, even if he does not attain superhero status he/she should at least seek to rise higher than the journalistic equivalent of a railroad engineer.

#46 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 10:12 AM | Reply

There should be.

In the U.S. it would violate the First Amendment to require journalists to obtain professional credentials to be one.

#47 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 10:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

he/she should at least seek to rise higher

Some journalists rise and rise like hot air balloon until they are talking to Allah direct. They ain't coming back.

#48 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 10:14 AM | Reply

"They ain't coming back"

Why would they want to? The doors of birth and death, thankfully, swing only one way.

#49 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 10:16 AM | Reply

In the U.S. it would violate the First Amendment to require journalists to obtain professional credentials to be one.

Okay...

#50 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 10:16 AM | Reply

Why would they want to?

Hot girl maybe? Ferrari? ----- stash?

We will all miss something we left behind.

#51 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 10:17 AM | Reply

Journalism regarding secretive security states will always seek to expose regardless of party or group affiliation.

Journalism isn't about an agenda such as "disrupt the security state." It's about reporting facts whether they hurt or help any particular entity.

#52 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 10:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 6

A journalist always carries with them a soapbox and a recording device.

The soapbox is not for themselves. It is to place at the feet of the subject of their next article.

#53 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 10:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"A true journalist should oppose all groups and factions within a national security state apparatus and work to hinder and/or disrupt their policies."

Cool, but that's not what Assange did. He's been working with the Russian "national security state apparatus" (GRU) for a long time now, which is why he sent Snowden to them and published the leaked DNC etc. emails they gave him.

#54 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Journalism isn't about an agenda such as "disrupt the security state." It's about reporting facts whether they hurt or help any particular entity.

#52 | POSTED BY RCADE

Sadly, it's in very short supply these days.

#55 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-04-11 10:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the leaked DNC etc. emails = the hacked DNC etc. emails

#56 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 10:22 AM | Reply

Journalism isn't about an agenda such as "disrupt the security state." It's about reporting facts whether they hurt or help any particular entity.
#52 | POSTED BY RCADE

Agreed. It's very difficult to find someone practicing that philosophy these days. Unfortunately, they won't make any money.

#57 | Posted by JordyPete at 2019-04-11 10:22 AM | Reply

True journalism simply exposes. Journalism regarding secretive security states will always seek to expose regardless of party or group affiliation.

True journalism exposed collateral murder and the horrific detention policies in Guantanamo Bay. The preference to keep this information in the dark is not journalism, which is exactly what happened when Manning approached "real journalists" with her information.

#58 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 10:23 AM | Reply

"Assange Evicted"

CNN/MSNBC moves into yet another era of misinformation so desparately trying to get past their mistakes.

#59 | Posted by JordyPete at 2019-04-11 10:24 AM | Reply

"Journalism isn't about an agenda such as "disrupt the security state. It's about reporting facts whether they hurt or help any particular entity."

I mostly agree with your second sentence, but good luck with reporting "facts" coming from a multi-layered, security state. In order to receive true "facts" about a security state, one must disrupt and hinder the apparatus and then record and analyze its reaction. That is not an "agenda", it is a valuable tool to be used on secretive, obstructionist subject matter.

#60 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 10:25 AM | Reply

Sadly, it's in very short supply these days.

No, it isn't. There are thousands of good journalists working in America. They just get ripped because partisans never like truth when it's inconvenient.

#61 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

one must disrupt and hinder the apparatus

First you wanted a journalist to be Green Lantern. Now you want them to be GreenPeace....

#62 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 10:36 AM | Reply

Anyway... advice to Assange... don't bend over to pick up the soap. It's a trick. It's always a trick.

Bye.

#63 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 10:41 AM | Reply

"There is no card that makes you a journalist"

www.youtube.com

#64 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 10:42 AM | Reply

Out of the embassy they drag, julian assange
let's do the same at the White House....
With donald l'orange

#65 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-04-11 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"There are thousands of good journalists working in America"

Well, they are definitely working. I see them out there blowing leaves every autumn and flipping burgers every spring.

Myself? I've been working on my novel now for over five years. When it comes out it will be full of surprises-- the biggest being that it actually got completed.

#66 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 10:48 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

It's hard to overstate how much Joshua Green fell for Russian Fauxllusion.

#19 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake a

The louder you scream that russiagate was fake the more people hear how stupid you are.

#67 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-11 10:49 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

CNN/MSNBC moves into yet another era of misinformation so desparately trying to get past their mistakes.

#59 | Posted by JordyPete

Con man's cult member wages war against con man's enemies. News at 11.

#68 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-11 10:50 AM | Reply

It's hard to overstate how much Joshua Green fell for Russian Fauxllusion.

#19 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

It's hard to overstate how disgusting Trump knob gobbling cultists are.

#69 | Posted by jpw at 2019-04-11 10:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is it possible for someone to age about 50 years in 10 years?

#70 | Posted by kudzu at 2019-04-11 10:57 AM | Reply

In the very beginning - much like the Tea Party - it seemed like Wikileaks and Assange were actually a force for good change and bringing the darkness to light. Quickly - very quickly - it became apparent he was turned into a tool for Russia to spread their propaganda and influence via choice collected information.

#71 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-04-11 10:57 AM | Reply

"Is it possible for someone to age about 50 years in 10 years"

Nowadays, binge-watching allows you to age 50 years in only a few days.

My nephew recently binge-watched Buffy the Vampire Slayer and went from a robust, outgoing 17 year old teenager to a feeble, 70 year old social derelict in one weekend.

#72 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-04-11 11:03 AM | Reply

He's pretty much a man without a country... That doesn't want to kick his ass.

#73 | Posted by Tor at 2019-04-11 11:03 AM | Reply

"Muh journalism"

Conspiring to hack into a server is illegal, period. You don't get an exception because you're a "journalist."

#74 | Posted by JOE at 2019-04-11 11:08 AM | Reply

"There should be."

In the U.S. it would violate the First Amendment to require journalists to obtain professional credentials to be one.

#47 | POSTED BY RCADE

That poster is not an American. Obviously!!

He is still struggling with the concepts laid out in our American Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.

And like a good propagandist always looking for ways our openness and beliefs in free speech and our Democratic ideals can be used against us.

#75 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-04-11 11:10 AM | Reply

#71 | POSTED BY GALAXIEPETE
Only when information turned against your tribe ... then you couldn't stand him...

Thats how its supposed to work, seems pretty fair and balanced.

Remember when Chelsea Manning was a liberal darling...

Hypocrits.

#76 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-04-11 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Get ready for a huge file dump in the next few days.

#77 | Posted by lee_the_agent at 2019-04-11 11:22 AM | Reply

#77

I was thinking the exact same thing...I wonder who will be the target?

#78 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-04-11 11:26 AM | Reply

#75

RCade was talking to one of my plonkees, I am guessing it was JTosser pretending to be a goat loving journalist but as usual, having no idea what he was talking about (at least on the journalism side of that equation),

What did I win?

#79 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-04-11 11:28 AM | Reply

Hypocrits.

#76 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2019-04-11 11:15 AM | REPLY

Pot meet kettle.

#80 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-04-11 11:29 AM | Reply

Geesh!

I'm going to need a bigger scoreboard!

#81 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-04-11 11:29 AM | Reply

I initially was quite supportive of Assange. I felt that Snowden's disclosure of NSA disregard for personal privacy was a great service to the people of the USA and I gave Assange some of the credit for it. But the more I have learned about Assange, the more difficult it is to view him as anything other than an arrogant self serving hypocrite. If he has committed crimes, prosecute him.

#82 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-04-11 11:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

RIGHT/CENTER

"RCade was talking to one of my plonkees, I am guessing it was JTosser pretending to be a goat loving journalist but as usual, having no idea what he was talking about (at least on the journalism side of that equation),

What did I win?"

You win more credibility than your "plonkee." ~ LOL

#83 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-04-11 11:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What makes you a journalist is to act like one, reporting the facts you've gathered independently and fairly and acknowledging potential conflicts of interest.

#38 | POSTED BY RCADE

you're the only journalist I know based on that definition and I'm biased towards you.

#84 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-04-11 11:46 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#82 problem is, if prosecuted, sometimes people are polanskied.

#85 | Posted by Petrous at 2019-04-11 11:48 AM | Reply

"The Law", more often than not, is a set of rules applied arbitrarily to the acussed, the outcome of which is determined by how much relative power the plaintiff and defendant weild. Fairness and truth play minor roles. Assange is a political prisoner, a practice we condemn when any country we oppose engages in it. If "The Law" were actually sacred, the USA would comply with the international laws it wrote, but it refuses to do so. Only the less powerfull are held to account. Assanges only crime is he has embarrassed the USA, which likes to pretend it is a moral institution. This is a vulgar attempt to silence all whistleblowers.

#86 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-04-11 11:48 AM | Reply

I initially was quite supportive of Assange. I felt that Snowden's disclosure of NSA disregard for personal privacy was a great service to the people of the USA and I gave Assange some of the credit for it. But the more I have learned about Assange, the more difficult it is to view him as anything other than an arrogant self serving hypocrite. If he has committed crimes, prosecute him.

I agree. If he's guilty, he should be held accountable. If his guilt isn't proven, I hope he walks. And gets his cat back.

#87 | Posted by rcade at 2019-04-11 11:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You win more credibility than your "plonkee." ~ LOL

#83 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2019-04-11 11:37 AM

LMAO, nice backhanded compliment, since anything is greater than zero.

#88 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-04-11 12:12 PM | Reply

Far owwwwt!I did the happy dance when that flashed over this morning.

No, it isn't. There are thousands of good journalists working in America. They just get ripped because partisans never like truth when it's inconvenient.

#61 | POSTED BY RCADE AT 2019-04-11 10:28 AM |

With the death of print news papers... and craigslist most news outlets are the rehashed op-ed's from the biggies i.e. Reuters, AP, UPI, McClatchy/Knight Ridder et al.

Craigslist killed the local papers by robbing them of a valuable income source... and the locals were usually part of or tapped into larger news outlets like Gannet, Hearst or McClatchy etc.and the big dailys.

Journalism suffered like a lot of other professions automated away by the computer age. These days it takes a lot of sifting to find actual reporting and not op/editing... which is basically something akin to gossip or playing "operator".

The internet has given birth to a lot of wannabe journalist hacks... like Matt Drudge feeding off yellow press... landing one punch before sliding into conspiracy dribble land or the op/ed industry where opinions pass as journalism... when basically all it is is someone reading the work of another summarizing and skewing it to fit an agenda. National Enquirer is the biggest of these waste of trees still in print.

Statistics show that op/ed is the favorite "journalism" of the older people and conservatives... hence they tend to latch on to one aspect of a story seeing it as the sum total of an event.

#89 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-04-11 12:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#82

I agree, but also recognized that what Assange did with both Snowden and Manning was a crime in the US, for which he will be held accountable if he gets extradited.

#90 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-04-11 12:16 PM | Reply

He is still struggling with the concepts laid out in our American Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.

I am not struggling with any concept.

RCADE said he has a degree in journalism, implying he thinks of himself as a journalist. I happen to disagree.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with the First Amendment.

Press Club membership is not required to be a journalist... anywhere in the world... but you need one if you want to be considered a real journalist.

These are old print media standards, pre-internet standards, true. But then I guess I am old school.

Of course Assange definitely does not qualify.

Educate yourself DONNERDUDDOO:

en.wikipedia.org(United_States)

The Club founders laid down a credo which promised "to promote social enjoyment among the members, to cultivate literary taste, to encourage friendly intercourse among newspapermen and those with whom they were thrown in contact in the pursuit of their vocation, to aid members in distress and to foster the ethical standards of the profession."
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Similarly Press Clubs in other countries are not a requirement but having a govt approved Press Pass is a huge advantage. Nobody can touch you if you have one of those.

If you say "hey I run a website, let me through"... that might get you thrown out the gate.

Belonging to a Press Club is like belonging to a Union. It gives you credibility and rousources:

The National Press Club Journalism Institute, the non-profit arm of the National Press Club, trains communications professionals in a changing media environment, provides scholarships to the next generation of journalists, recognizes excellence in journalism, and promotes a free press.

It can also pressure the govt quite effectively... at least in other nations.

#91 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 12:18 PM | Reply

I agree,
#90 | Posted by Rightocenter

Nobody cares if you agree or disagree RIGHTLEFTSHART.

It's just the way it is with you. LOL

#92 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 12:20 PM | Reply

The fact that most American "journalists" are not in any way associated with the National Press Club is one reason for the extremely poor standard of journalism in America.

Most American journalism is based on hearsay, rumors and downright partisan lies. American journalism has led America into starting fake wars. No other country has journalism THIS bad... responsible for a million dead Iraqis, for example.

That's because of lack of integrity. And lack of integrity starts with the lack of a common standard.

People like RIGHTLEFTSHART, DONNERBUOY and MADAM will never get the ins and outs of the news business. LOL

#93 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 12:26 PM | Reply

Sorry for the rant. I was being polite before. But now I had to tell some people where they stand EXACTLY.

Have fun. Bye.

#94 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 12:27 PM | Reply

Assange is probably the most dangerous man in the world to Trump and his associates. He will be in isolation as fast as they can manage it and will probably die of some unsuspected ailment in the near future.
My question, what is the real reason Ecuador decided to hand him over knowing it was a death sentence?

#95 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-11 12:32 PM | Reply

Remember when Chelsea Manning was a liberal darling...

Hypocrits.

#76 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Remember when wikileaks was a conservative pariah?

Hypocrites.

#96 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-11 12:33 PM | Reply

Does anyone even remember what got assange in trouble?

To my recollection, it was leaking proof, and TRUTH, that our soldiers were monsters who enjoyed abusing iraqi prisoners captured in america's illegal invasion.

#97 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-11 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Craigslist killed the local papers by robbing them of a valuable income source... and the locals were usually part of or tapped into larger news outlets like Gannet, Hearst or McClatchy etc.and the big dailys. "

Horse manure. Cable news killed the newspapers. 24/7 news, up to the minute makes newspapers seem antiquated and quaint. Then Fox News killed the truth that we used to associate with newspapers. Now, we don't even expect the whole truth from MSNBC (owned by Concast). Free Speech TV is probably the best on-air news, NPR tries to do a good job, but outside of web sites it is hard to find the real news today.
But Craigslist???? No one looks to Craigslist for news, we might look there if we wanted a used car but certainly not news.

#98 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-11 12:38 PM | Reply

#97 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

I believe that was the final straw so to speak. He then was accused of Rape. Frankly it became clear he was a Russian puppet shortly after that.

#99 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-04-11 12:38 PM | Reply

Oh and before I leave, I just remembered something.

I said I don't agree that RCADE is a real journalist... I was perhaps being a bit too harsh.

RCADE/RETORT was nearly sued by the Associated Press, no?

THAT makes one legit, for sure.

Best way for a journalist to be taken seriously is to get sued. My sister (a journalist) as been sued twice for more than ten million dollars, total. LOL

#100 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 12:39 PM | Reply

"Remember when Chelsea Manning was a liberal darling..."

Yes I do and I still respect her 1000 times more than you right now. She understood the consequences of revealing crimes against humanity but she put humanity first. I applaud her.
Realize that the reason her crime was even illegal was because your government did not want you to know what our government was doing in our name. I hope there is always a "Chelsea Manning" willing to reveal the truth even under the threat of serious punishment. Thank God for Chelsea Manning.

#101 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-11 12:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

what is the real reason Ecuador decided to hand him over knowing it was a death sentence?

Ecuador is in South America and South America is America's beeyaach.

Simple as that. Just couldn't take the pressure any more.

He should have run off to Russia like Snowden.

#102 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-11 12:41 PM | Reply

I believe that was the final straw so to speak. He then was accused of Rape. Frankly it became clear he was a Russian puppet shortly after that.

#99 | Posted by GalaxiePete

The rape accusations were a pretty obvious fabrication in order to arrest him for exposing the truth about the US military.

#103 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-11 12:44 PM | Reply

Remember when Obama DoJ, examined the same evidence and found no crime.

Good times.

#104 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-04-11 12:45 PM | Reply

"I believe that was the final straw so to speak. He then was accused of Rape. Frankly it became clear he was a Russian puppet shortly after that."

Accuse someone of crimes that would result in very long term incarceration....then what do you expect....they will seek assistance from whoever offers it.

#105 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-11 12:54 PM | Reply

#98 I THINK he was referring to the revenue papers (local ones) lost from people buying want ads.

#106 | Posted by RevDarko at 2019-04-11 01:17 PM | Reply

Quick update:

The enemies of journalism have added Cenk Uygur and Michael Isikoff.

Friends of journalistic integrity have picked up a huge endorsement from Meghan McCain.

Cenk on pushing your sources for additional information:

"This is what every good journalist does. ------ journalists who crave access and do stenography for the powerful just ask their sources if there is anything else positive about the government they can print for them or maybe something nasty about their rivals in the government."

  • twitter.com

  • That's interesting.

    #107 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 01:19 PM | Reply

    The louder you scream that russiagate was fake the more people hear how stupid you are.

    THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN, SPEAK!

    #108 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 01:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

    #104

    'Member when Mackris had something other than Whataboutism? Me neither. Sounds just like BebB on this thread.

    Assange lost a lot of friends and supporters when he decided to side with Putin against American elections. We'll see how much of what he did may have been criminal.

    #109 | Posted by Corky at 2019-04-11 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

    BenB

    #110 | Posted by Corky at 2019-04-11 01:22 PM | Reply

    "I agree, but also recognized that what Assange did with both Snowden and Manning was a crime in the US, for which he will be held accountable if he gets extradited.
    #90 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER"

    Did Assange do it in the US?
    I don't think he did.
    Where is the jurisdiction?

    #111 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-11 01:31 PM | Reply

    More from Cenk. Remember this guy? He used to be on the front page here all the time:

    '"This is clarifying moment for who are the real journalists in the country & who are happy to be almost literally state "actors."'

    Ooh, that's gotta sting.

    But you got Meghan McCain going for you, which is nice.

    #112 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    Going to a US prison is too nice for this guy. He ran a stateless (depending who you ask) intelligence organization. Deserves hard labor til he's put in the ground.

    #113 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-04-11 01:41 PM | Reply

    He ran a stateless (depending who you ask) intelligence organization.

    That's a crime?
    Someone should tell Debka.

    #114 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-11 01:48 PM | Reply

    The only crime he committed as far as I can tell, involves possessing, storing and publishing classified US documents without permission. Hillary committed 2 of those same 3 crimes, and she's walking in the woods.

    #115 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-04-11 01:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    #102 | Posted by J_Tremain

    Final straw for the boot was pretty obvious - he released a trove of emails of Ecuador's President and Wife. It would seem he was deranged if he didn't think there would be severe repercussions for that.

    #116 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-04-11 02:00 PM | Reply

    Hillary committed 2 of those same 3 crimes

    Which 2?

    #117 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-04-11 02:00 PM | Reply

    Trump thinks the American people are stupid:

    'I know nothing about WikiLeaks.' Donald Trump has no comment on Julian Assange arrest

    President Donald Trump, who declared "I love WikiLeaks" during the 2016 presidential campaign, refused Thursday to comment on the arrest of the website's founder Julian Assange in London.

    "I know nothing about WikiLeaks," Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. "It's not my thing."
    Trump said he didn't know anything about Assange's arrest and said what happens next is up to the attorney general.

    "I know nothing really about it -- it's not my deal in life," he said.

    www.usatoday.com

    #118 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 02:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    "The only crime he committed as far as I can tell, involves possessing, storing and publishing classified US documents without permission."

    WikiLeaks Founder Charged in Computer Hacking Conspiracy

    www.justice.gov

    #119 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 02:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    "Hillary committed 2 of those same 3 crimes, and she's walking in the woods."

    Utter horse crap. Righties think that they can say anything they want about Hillary Clinton and no need for any of it to even be true.

    Now, let's talk about the current occupant of the WH, he went into a room with Vladimir Putin and gave away state secrets. Oh, I don't have the transcript proving it? I know, but you don't have the transcripts disproving it. I believe he did do that and I will say it over and over until many people believe he did do that. Because, you and I both know, he did do that. Only one of us will be honest about it though.

    #120 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-11 02:08 PM | Reply

    Now, let's talk about the current occupant of the WH, he went into a room with Vladimir Putin and gave away state secrets. Oh, I don't have the transcript proving it? I know, but you don't have the transcripts disproving it.

    Beautiful post. 10/10

    #121 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 02:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

    Trump was against Wikileaks ("deserves the death penalty") before he was for it ("I love Wikileaks") and before he was uninformed about it ("I know nothing about Wikileaks"):

    Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins

    Asked if he still loves WikiLeaks, Trump tells the pool, "I know nothing about Wikileaks. It's not my thing." He previously called it "amazing" and a "treasure trove."

    #122 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 02:20 PM | Reply

    Oh, I don't have the transcript proving it? I know, but you don't have the transcripts disproving it.

    Coincidentally, this is like 95 percent of the Russiagate "evidence".

    #123 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-04-11 02:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

    - "I know nothing about WikiLeaks,"

    Sgt. Donald Shultz: "I know nothing! I see nothing!"

    His sycophants: "What about Hillary! What about other journalists! What about... anything other than THIS story!"

    #124 | Posted by Corky at 2019-04-11 02:22 PM | Reply

    THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN, SPEAK!

    #108 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

    What walls? THe ones around trump's taxes?

    #125 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-11 02:23 PM | Reply

    Coincidentally, this is like 95 percent of the Russiagate "evidence".

    #123 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

    What evidence has been disproved?

    That many members of his team were caught lying about russia?

    That they changed the GOP platform to be more favorable to russia?

    That trump lied about not having business in russia?

    That trump asked russia to hack hillary's emails?

    That trump's team met with russians to get dirt on hillary instead of reporting it to the FBI?

    That they then lied about that meeting?

    That trump says he beleives putin instead of the american military?

    That trump fired comey to stop the investigation?

    Those are facts. None disproven. Why are you so desperate to help brush this whole scandal under the rug comrade?

    #126 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-11 02:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

    Julian Assange will likely be charged for his role in publishing a leaked video and other material. He is expected to be extradited to the U.S. to stand trial for doing what reporters do, publishing true information in the public interest. The NY Times and WaPo published the same documents, but have not been charged with anything. This legal maneuvering is a political vendetta against Julian Assange for embarrassing the War Criminals behind the Iraq war.

    The American war against Iraq was among the more idiotic and gratuitous slaughters in human history. It was premised on lies, prosecuted by criminals and fools, outsourced to professional murderers and it still isn't over. In addition to those murdered directly and indirectly in the war, several million refugees were scattered across the Middle East, including over a million into Syria. ISIS grew from the ranks of the disbanded Iraqi army. This fiasco appeared as it is to all the world, the gasp of a dying empire sunk under the weight of its own ignorance and arrogance.

    Late in the war Julian Assange and his colleagues at Wikileaks published documents and videos allegedly leaked by Chelsea Manning that brought the gratuitous nature of American violence home for all to see. (Rob Urie)

    But none of the real criminals will be held accountable for their crimes. Only truth tellers in the USA put themselves at risk. And that is the lesson the US Government wants to send to all whistleblowers.

    www.counterpunch.org

    #127 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-04-11 02:35 PM | Reply

    The Clintons Are Terrible, But Julian Assange Is No Hero

    His recent targets have made him favorable to some Republicans who dislike Clinton, but his coordination with the Russian government should concern all Americans.

    Assange's goal, contrary to the media and the public's belief, is not transparency in the service of good government. Instead, he strives to create maximum chaos within the United States. While WikiLeaks' revelations about the Clintons have been newsworthy, the actions of Assange should not be condoned and instead should be seen as interference in American democracy by foreign actors.

    The strategy Assange has used this election has been on his mind for years. Essays written by Assange around the time of WikiLeaks' founding in 2006 detail his contempt for the American political system and his desire to see it crumble.

    By choosing to work secretly with the Russian government, Assange has given up any pretense about his organization's focus on whistleblowing and transparency. If Assange truly was dedicated to transparency, he would not have spoken out so strongly against the Panama Papers. These papers, released in April 2016, disclosed how wealthy individuals across the globe used private tax shelters to hide their wealth from disclosure. Some of the individuals named in the leak were Russian oligarchs who had close connections to Vladimir Putin. When the Panama Papers became public, WikiLeaks claimed that they were published as an attack on Putin by the U.S. government. Assange's willingness to attack American figures while defending leaks that are harmful to Russian interests should trouble political figures in America, no matter their political affiliation or feelings about the Clintons.


    freebeacon.com

    #128 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    Good now arrest that deep state traitor Snowden and the woman who had seth rich murdered.

    #129 | Posted by mutant at 2019-04-11 02:52 PM | Reply

    If Assange had leaked emails from all the candidates campaigns, I could have respected that, but to selectively leak only one candidate's, the one most feared by Putin, showed Julian's true colors (from above link):

    In his essay "Conspiracy as Governance," Assange wrote:

    Let us consider two closely balanced and broadly conspiratorial power groupings, the US Democratic and Republican parties.

    Consider what would happen if one of these parties gave up their mobile phones, fax and email correspondence -- let alone the computer systems which manage their subscribes, donors, budgets, polling, call centres and direct mail campaigns?
    They would immediately fall into an organizational stupor and lose to the other.

    #130 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-04-11 02:58 PM | Reply

    What a clown world we are on.

    not letting the government into every segment of our life now equals aiding Russia, exposing unrightful and unconstitutional mass spying on every citizen is treason? exposing our taxpayers money goes to islamic radicals in Syria is treason? Not wanting to become an ethnic minority in your ancestral homeland is racism? Not being gleefull over people mutilating their genitalia and then telling it to little children with drawings is Transphobia?

    Can't keep up..

    #131 | Posted by mutant at 2019-04-11 03:10 PM | Reply

    "If Assange had leaked emails from all the candidates campaigns, I could have respected that, but to selectively leak only one candidate's, the one most feared by Putin, showed Julian's true colors (from above link)"

    ^
    This.

    Also extends to the people who criticized Hillary for her emails but were fine not seeing or even asking the Russians for Trump's emails.

    #132 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-11 03:13 PM | Reply

    "Coincidentally, this is like 95 percent of the Russiagate "evidence"."

    Pretends he knows about the evidence involved in the Collusion investigation. He knows nothing just like the rest of us. AG Coverup is determined to keep us all in the dark as long as possible.

    #133 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-11 03:19 PM | Reply

    My understanding is that Assange has printed dirt on the Russian government too, but given the fact that WikiLeaks publishes only in English, has limited those dumps.

    Remember when Trump loved WikiLeaks? That was before the military industrial complex took him to the shed for another spanking.

    #134 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-04-11 03:27 PM | Reply

    Not being gleefull over people mutilating their genitalia

    #131 | Posted by mutant

    You talking about christians and jews?

    #135 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-04-11 03:35 PM | Reply

    #115 | Posted by MUSTANG

    Ever hear of the Pentagon Papers? So wrong. He is officially indicted for helping Manning crack the password required to access the documents. He provided assistance in obtaining them. If that is true then he crossed a mile wide red line.

    However, seeing how he is a citizen of a foreign country and did not commit the crime in a US Jurisdiction what I don't understand is how he is then accountable to the US criminal system. I am just curious what the reasoning for that would be. I realize it was an "attack" on the Federal Government but I still don't understand how that works. It's not like the direct attack Russians have done.

    #136 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-04-11 04:57 PM | Reply

    "He is officially indicted for helping Manning crack the password required to access the documents."

    That law is a huge overreach of state power, by the way.

    It criminalizes violation of arbitrary rules not drafted by any legislature or reviewable by any court.

    #137 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-11 05:10 PM | Reply

    What a clown world we are on.

    #131 | Posted by mutant

    Weird post. I agree Clown World alright. A--clown world.

    Government Spying.
    Our government spying on us makes me furious frankly.

    Snowden - What he exposed of spying on Americans should be an issue for EVERY American. They would still probably have tried to charge him with Treason for doing just that BUT he did far worse. He let the world know how we were spying on them too. I tend to think of him as a heroic dope who did indeed cross a line - I don't know if it treason.

    Manning - Same thing. Exposing our Military abuses and cover ups in Iraq and Afghanistan should have made him/her a hero to Americans. The problem is bigger because Manning disclosed far more than that. And frankly Manning received a sentence far harsher than normal undeservedly. I do see her as a hero. International relations were damaged but not irreparably and the CIA and Military abuse was exposed.

    Assange - Is an Aussie. I don't have a problem with him helping Manning as a disinterested 3rd party looking to expose corruption. But the question is was he already a Russian tool at that point because he clearly became one. I lean toward he was the whole time. He broke many American laws if he did assist in hacking US Military intelligence systems. I never seen anything exposing the Chinese or Russians or other totalitarian regimes come out of him. He also went on with influencing Brexit and our election. He was spreading lies about sources of information that impinged a political party, candidate, murder victim and election. Frankly we still don't know if what was released was unaltered...

    Islamic Radicals
    I'm not sure that ever happened at least there is no evidence I am aware of. The document from the Marines that was uncovered "advocated for doing it" and it wasn't anything operational. It was the opinion of one branch of the Military's Intelligence department. I read it and I didn't like it but they were accurate IMHO.

    Not wanting to become an ethnic minority in your ancestral homeland is racism?
    Huh? That makes no sense. What country are you talking about? I know it isn't the United States.

    Not being gleefull over people mutilating their genitalia and then telling it to little children with drawings is Transphobia?
    Huh? Your post truly degenerated into nonsense at that point.

    #138 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-04-11 05:21 PM | Reply

    It criminalizes violation of arbitrary rules not drafted by any legislature or reviewable by any court.

    #137 | Posted by snoofy

    Well that is what I am wondering... He helped crack a password. It brings me back to the DMCA - which I have always found to be horrendous legislation. It boils down to aiding and abetting the Hacking US Government Military systems - that isn't so arbitrary.

    #139 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-04-11 05:26 PM | Reply

    "BUT he did far worse. He let the world know how we were spying on them too"

    How is that even bad in the first place?

    Are we supposed to pay no attention to the man behind the curtain??

    #140 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-11 05:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    "Military systems - that isn't so arbitrary."

    That is correct, but the law itself doesn't stop there. This case isn't a good test for that law. But the law is an overreach. As are most criminal laws in the realm of cyberspace.

    #141 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-04-11 05:28 PM | Reply

    Time for the stinky rapist and traitor to do some time in prison.
    They should have chased him around with a wash cloth and soap before arrest though for s*** and giggles.

    #142 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-04-11 07:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

    But now I had to tell some people where they stand EXACTLY.

    Have fun. Bye.

    #94 | POSTED BY J_TREMAIN

    All you have done is tell us where you stand. ----.

    It is relief when you stop ranting and mucking up a thread.

    It's painfully obvious you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to freedom of speech and journalism and the Free Press.

    You have only a causal relationship with the Truth.

    I am a published journalist though I was never a paid professional like Rcade. And everything he has said regarding this subject rings true. What you say rings false.

    So at least I have some real experience to draw on.

    And unlike you I don't need to win a debate about free speech as the truth is more important than "winning".

    So tak

    #143 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-04-11 08:29 PM | Reply

    But now I had to tell some people where they stand EXACTLY.
    Have fun. Bye.
    #94 | POSTED BY J_TREMAIN

    You're leaving the Retort?? Thank Allah.

    #144 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-04-11 08:37 PM | Reply

    Bin Landens favorite poster is leaving?

    #145 | Posted by Tor at 2019-04-11 09:15 PM | Reply

    The Chinese are re-assigning him to email-only tasks.

    #146 | Posted by Spork at 2019-04-11 09:43 PM | Reply

    It wasn't very long ago Jussie Smollett was tried and convicted by the mass media, his employer, that lowlife mayor of Chicago & his police chief, and almost everyone on this site including myself. But it turns out the Chicago police are corrupt as hell and have cooked the evidence before there ever was a trial. The DA probably figured that out but still wanted an ounce of blood. Why? Just another battle in a class war designed to reflect badly on the minority black population.

    www.counterpunch.org

    Nobody here knows a single truth about Assange. We depend entirely on a disreputable sources of information, like the US Government.

    #147 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-04-11 11:36 PM | Reply

    "Nobody here knows a single truth about Assange."

    True that. But I can judge him based on his public behavior and the degradation of the quality of leaks Wikileaks provided. It used to be a great website and then suddenly it started reflecting brexiter and trumpish sentiment despite being an obvious minority of public opinion.

    He shot himself in the foot by getting too greedy and he took WIkileak's reputation down with him. A trustless version of Wikileaks either already exists or will soon on a decentralized ledger that some ---- like Assange will not be able to destroy all by himself. Then you'll see real freedom of speech; not freedom of Assange propaganda.

    #148 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-04-11 11:58 PM | Reply

    At least Assange cared enough about his cat to find it a good home a couple of months ago after the Ecuadorians complained about Assange's body odor and condition he kept his room in.

    #149 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-04-12 12:35 AM | Reply

    The very same people who've spent the last several years screeching about how trump is supposedly limiting press freedoms now link arms with trump and the worst elements in his administration to celebrate Julian Assange being arrested. They will say that JA and wikileaks broke laws, which may be true, but the information leaked is in the public interest. These critics overlook or otherwise tacitly excuse the laws broken, corruption, and general malfeasence on behalf of the american government exposed thanks to Assange and wikileaks.

    Why? Because these people are still butthurt that some of the wikileaks material happened to damage the DNC and hilldawg; they haven't gotten over any of this and instead have consumed a steady and histrionic stream of psyops from literal "former" intelligence directors and/or agents on msnbc, cnn, and the rest. Once upon a time liberals used to be very sceptical of trusting the word of intelligence operators (e.g., Nayirah testimony, WMDs in Iraq, etc.), but now they gobble up the narrative eagerly because orange man bad!

    I see that you all don't like Glenn Greenwald or Matt Taibbi (and probably not Michael Tracey either although he hasn't been mentioned so far). Maybe you could trust Caitlin Johnstone (twitter.com), unless you are a misogynistic triple-nazi bigot. I jest, but all of these peole I have mentioned were right on the money w/r/t "muh RUSHHHHUH" and from everything I've seen thus far are supportive of assange. They are also *real* liberals, not democratic boot-lickers like some of you. Maybe you could learn something from considering their perspectives, but I won't hold my breath.

    #150 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-04-12 12:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    The biggest irony in all of this is that those who consider themselves to be the "resistance" - you know, the p-ssy-hatters, and associates - are some of the most conformist, boot-licking stenographers for power that exist today. These people couldn't be more in lock-step with traditional powr structures if they tried!

    #151 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-04-12 12:53 AM | Reply

    "If the government does it then it's okay, and how dare you draw back the curtain!"

    #152 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-04-12 12:55 AM | Reply

    "Julian Assange sits in a jail cell today after being betrayed by the Ecuadorian government and his home country of Australia. A British judge named Michael Snow has found the WikiLeaks founder guilty of violating bail conditions, inserting himself into the annals of history by labeling Assange "a narcissist who cannot get beyond his own selfish interest." So that tells you how much of a fair and impartial legal proceeding we can expect to see from the British judicial process on this matter."

    https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/how-you-can-be-certain-that-the-us-charge-against-assange-is-
    fraudulent-8eb0caa1c4f6

    #153 | Posted by berserkone at 2019-04-12 12:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

    All you have done is tell us where you stand. ----.

    I told you were YOU stand. ------.

    It is relief when you stop ranting

    Oh the little pleasures of little people..... LOL

    Anyway, relief has run out now.

    It's painfully obvious you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to freedom of speech and journalism and the Free Press.

    It's painfully obvious you have no clue what you are talking about when it comes to freedom of speech and journalism and the Free Press.

    You have only a causal relationship with the Truth.

    You have only a causal relationship with the Truth.

    I am a published journalist

    No evidence of that. The jury shall disregard.

    I was never a paid professional

    Of course not, you bloody fool. LOL

    Like I said, any Tom, Dick or Harry can pretend to be a journalist. Doesn't make you one, now does it?

    Rcade. And everything he has said regarding this subject rings true. What you say rings false.

    You don't even have a clue what RCADE said and what I said. Mister "Journalist". LOL

    So at least I have some real experience to draw on.

    The experience of high blood pressure and diabetes? Couch potato syndrome?

    True. That is quite some REAL experience to draw upon.

    And unlike you I don't need to win a debate

    Oh good. Because you just lost this one.

    #154 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2019-04-12 03:04 AM | Reply

    "It would probably be better to simply revoke these womens' voting rights for a set period of time instead of executing them. Now that I think of it, it might be a good idea to repeal womens' right to vote entirely, unless a woman is in a demonstrably stable marriage which is bearing children. Otherwise she is just going to treat the government as her daddy-husband-provider and keep voting for politicians who will further ensconce us in the hole in which we presently find ourselves."

    Berserkone posted that in a different thread then comes here and wants to lecture us on Julian Assange. Give me a break moron, you are not big thinker. YOu don't believe in freedom or equality so quit flapping your jaws pretending as if you do.

    #155 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-12 08:41 AM | Reply

    Why did Assange the Hillary?
    Sorry if I missed it above.

    #156 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-04-12 10:04 AM | Reply

    "Hillary committed 2 of those same 3 crimes, and she's walking in the woods."

    Utter horse crap. Righties think that they can say anything they want about Hillary Clinton and no need for any of it to even be true.

    Hillary kept classified emails on a server that was NOT DOD accreditation. That much isnt in dispute. It's FACT.

    For that alone, she should be in jail. Anyone else would be.

    #157 | Posted by boaz at 2019-04-12 11:27 AM | Reply

    Hillary kept classified emails on a server that was NOT DOD accreditation.

    So did Colin Powell, and Jared Kushner.

    Odd you only have issue with one out of three.

    Wonder why that is...

    #158 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-04-12 11:33 AM | Reply

    "If the government does it then it's okay, and how dare you draw back the curtain!"

    Great motto for the Trump administration.

    #159 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-04-12 11:35 AM | Reply

    "For that alone, she should be in jail. Anyone else would be."

    Apparently, you entire comment is just garbage. Hope you realize that, everyone else does. Why be the last one to know?

    #160 | Posted by danni at 2019-04-12 11:53 AM | Reply

    So did Colin Powell, and Jared Kushner.

    Odd you only have issue with one out of three.

    Has it been proven the other two moved classified tagged emails?

    #161 | Posted by boaz at 2019-04-12 12:57 PM | Reply

    Apparently, you entire comment is just garbage. Hope you realize that, everyone else does. Why be the last one to know?

    #160 | Posted by danni

    Danni,

    I've held a clearance for almost 30 years. I know and I've seen what happens to people who run afoul of classified data. Hillary should have been punished, just punished like anyone else would have been.

    #162 | Posted by boaz at 2019-04-12 12:59 PM | Reply

    The public has a right to know how their Government spends their money. What if others in the wake of Manning and Assange are silenced? Look at Germany. Leni Reifenstahl, Hitler's close friend, made propaganda movies for him. She claimed the effectiveness of the propaganda was dependent on the "submissive void" of the public, not the orders from on high. Once people accept what they are told as fact, anything can happen. Everyone here that accepts the US Government's version of events regarding Assange is demonstrating an inability to question authority.

    Meanwhile, Jeremy Corbyn, the Labour Party Leader in England is demanding that Assange not be extradited.

    #163 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-04-12 02:04 PM | Reply

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