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Sunday, March 24, 2019

Good news, America. Russia helped install your president. But although he owes his job in large part to that help, the president did not conspire or collude with his helpers. He was the beneficiary of a foreign intelligence operation, but not an active participant in that operation. He received the stolen goods, but he did not conspire with the thieves in advance. This is what Donald Trump's administration and its enablers in Congress and the media are already calling exoneration. But it offers no reassurance to Americans who cherish the independence and integrity of their political process.

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The author is starting with a false assumption: that Putin wanted Trump to win. He didn't. He wanted Hillary to lose. Trump just happened to be the Republican candidate.

#1 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-03-24 06:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

"The author is starting with a false assumption: that Putin wanted Trump to win. He didn't. He wanted Hillary to lose. Trump just happened to be the Republican candidate."

Not true.

How Russians Used Social Media to Boost the Trump Campaign, According to Robert Mueller's Indictment (italics mine)

The 37-page indictment issued yesterday by Special Prosecutor Robert Mueller alleges that Russian agents used a multitude of tactics to attack Donald Trump's presidential rivals and sow mistrust of the American political system. Prominent among those tactics was one that journalists, intelligence agencies and cybersecurity experts have been sounding the alarm on for nearly two years – the manipulation of public opinion through social media.

fortune.com

From the indictment:

They engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump. (page 17)

www.politico.com

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"The author is starting with a false assumption: that Putin wanted Trump to win. He didn't. He wanted Hillary to lose. Trump just happened to be the Republican candidate."

They supported Trump during the primaries (see above) as well as after he became president:

Geezer' McCain and ‘Fake Conservative' Rubio

The Russian influence campaign, as has been widely reported, involved transactionally pretending to be either on the left or the right. Enemies of Donald Trump – and Russia – came in for particular instructions from within Project Lakhta, often in terms reminiscent of Trump himself.

The late Senator John McCain should be branded "as an old geezer" who belongs in a nursing home, according to Project Lakhta conspirators quoted in the complaint. McCain's "pathological hatred" of Trump was a potent area of emphasis, the conspirator continued, with such "dishonorable scoundrels, such as McCain, immediately aim[ing] to destroy all the conservative voters' hopes as soon as Trump tries to fulfill his election promises."

House Speaker Paul Ryan, a key congressional ally of Trump's whose 2016-era opposition faded after election day, was to be branded "a complete and absolute nobody incapable of any decisiveness."

Another one-time Trump rival turned supporter, Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, should be "expos[ed] as a fake conservative who is a traitor to Republican values who in his soul despises the American Constitution and civil liberties."


www.thedailybeast.com

#3 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This much spin could alter the climate.

#4 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-03-24 09:51 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Comrade Mustang lying his ass off as usual.

#5 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-03-24 09:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Asha Rangappa @AshaRangappa_

Barr's letter claims that Mueller was looking at the narrow criminal question of conspiracy, or "coordination" (which he defines as a knowing agreement) bw Trump campaign and Russia. X-CIA @john_sipher @alexzfinley, and I explained in Dec ‘17 why Mueller was unlikely to find this

Barr's letter does not reveal what Mueller found from the counterintelligence side, namely whether there were or are any national security threats posed by campaign's activities. Our whole piece here

Collusion Doesn't Have to be Criminal to be an Ongoing Threat

www.justsecurity.org

#6 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 10:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Comrade Mustang lying his ass off as usual.

1. A person who shares one's interests or activities; a friend or companion.

2. often Comrade A fellow member of a group, especially a fellow member of the Communist Party.

apparently you both share the same attitude.

#7 | Posted by Crassus at 2019-03-24 10:09 PM | Reply

Asha Rangappa @AshaRangappa_

Well, we know that a counterintelligence investigation was opened on President Trump. Perhaps Barr could advise Congress on what became of that investigation. If it was closed because no national security threat was found, I'd think he'd want to mention it.

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 10:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

I hope you are happy with your bag of cash.

1. Nobody knows where the the Power comes from.
2. The Power will conjure spirits.
3. The Power will take your life.

I've told you this before and either you are too stupid to understand it, too afraid, or too greedy for your own good.

May God have mercy on your soul, because nothing else in this Universe can.

#9 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-24 11:03 PM | Reply

;-)

southpaw @nycsouthpaw

No one talks about how the 400lb guy on his bed in New Jersey was exonerated.

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 11:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Trump and his crew engaged in a profound act of betrayal."

If that what it takes to keep Hillary Clinton out of the Oval Office, then so be it.
Signed,
47% American voters.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-24 11:20 PM | Reply

:-):
Matt Ford @fordm

I'll be Extremely Offline this week for the Thermidorian backlash against folks who got a little too high on collusion theories, so all I ask is that the deep state grifters be included as well.

LOL:
jtbatson @jtbatson

Mueller Report takeway: Trump top campaign officials too busy doing other illegal stuff to have time to collude with Russia

#12 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 11:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

#11 | Posted by snoofy

I'm pretty damn sure it was Hillary.

I mean, the evidence was laid right out there in front of us all about what she did to Bernie, and she isn't denying it. Instead. she's trying to erase it. But what she did with the coup attempt was treason. I'm a veteran - I took an oath to defend our country against enemies "both foreign and domestic", and I don't cotton to no treason.

Your mileage may vary.

#13 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-25 12:00 AM | Reply

Can someone walk me through how Russia got Trump elected? Please use specifics. Maybe even use small words so that I can understand.

#14 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-03-25 12:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

#14 | Posted by drivelikejehu

In the $5.2 billion dollar election, Russia spent almost $100,000 on Facebook posts from unknown Russians and a Pokemon hack to change the course of history. Granted, most of those adds where about about puppy dog pages, and nearly all occurred after the election, but that is not the point. Trump is the point.

Almost all of the political ads where pro-Obama. The CEO of advertising at Facebook said he saw them all and it had no impact whatsoever.

And the Internet Research Agency is a private company - that's just it's name, it's not part of the Russian Government. A lot of Russian companies have scary names like that.

All we really know at this point is that Hillary hired foreign spies to write a fantasy novel and people in the Ukraine are going to jail because of it, but that's being kept out of 94% MSM for obvious reasons.

Clear enough?

#15 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-25 01:23 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Almost all of the political ads where pro-Obama. "

Link?

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-25 01:41 AM | Reply

#16 | Posted by Danforth

Look it up, jerk. It will teach you a lot about what what actually happened. And try duckcuckgo because that stuff is down-ranked on google to the near end of one million pages.

Give it a try. Spend some time and look into it.

There is a reason why the independent sites not owned by the billionaires like the DR got down-ranked and lost 2/3's of their their hits (ask rcade, he agrees with me).

#17 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-25 01:57 AM | Reply

"Look it up, jerk."

Your claim, your responsibility. Are you new on the internet?

#18 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-25 02:03 AM | Reply

Oh, I see you are stupid. Please never respond to me again.

#19 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-25 02:32 AM | Reply

On the contrary: post the link, and feel free to rub my nose in my own ignorance afterward.

But frankly, the concept "Almost all the political ads were pro-Obama", during the Trump v. Clinton campaign, doesn't pass the smell test.

But go ahead, prove me wrong.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-25 02:38 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So what you are saying is that you cant dispute my argument?

#21 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-25 02:56 AM | Reply

And the Internet Research Agency is a private company - that's just it's name, it's not part of the Russian Government. A lot of Russian companies have scary names like that.

"The Internet Research Agency is a Russian troll farm in St. Petersburg -- in essence a Kremlin-backed enterprise staffed with hundreds of people whose main job is to sow disinformation on the internet. The organization, which serves as a propaganda arm for Russian President Vladimir Putin, is at the heart of the indictments handed down Friday by Special Counsel Robert Mueller."

www.theatlantic.com

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-25 08:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This was my thought as well. We are supposed to believe that Trump was an unwitting recipient of assistance from a foreign enemy, but that he had nothing to do with it (despite virtually all of his top people lying to the FBI about meeting with russians). I don't even believe this premise, but if that really is the case, is that a good look for Trump? That someone who wants to destabilize the US prefers him as a candidate and he's too dumb to notice they're helping him?

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-25 08:09 AM | Reply

And if the Mueller report is indeed an exoneration of Trump (it's not), as Trumpkins would have you believe, then why are they so fiercely opposed to its release? If this is the document that finally legitimizes their president, they should be clamoring for its release instead of hiding behind obscure regs.

#24 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-25 08:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I am waiting for the full report and not Barr's cherry picked summary. For one thing - we know from many people that "collusion" is not a crime in itself.

It is just amazing how many people directly and intricately tied to Trump and the campaign have been indicted for acts related to the campaign - yet there was no collusion. That is simply what I am not getting. Yes several have been indicted for acts not directly linked to this campaign as well. Are all these people acting independently stupid? It may be that there simply is not enough evidence to directly link Donald Trump to the acts but what the guilty have testified to would seem to indicate some level of organized collusion. It simply is beyond comprehension that so many people were independently played or playing the game and all the lies about contacts with Russian government agents.

I mean it is very clear how downright stupid some of these people were in their actions - why it took a special investigation to catch them I am not sure. White collar crime? Maybe every single campaign and entity spending money on elections should be subject to a special counsel investigation going forward. I know it's not feasible but it seems necessary to clean house.

#25 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-03-25 10:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So what you are saying is that you cant dispute my argument?"

IOW, you don't have proof, never did, and just pulled that lie out of your arse.

That certainly explains the smell.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-25 10:22 AM | Reply

The author is starting with a false assumption: that Putin wanted Trump to win. He didn't. He wanted Hillary to lose. Trump just happened to be the Republican candidate.

#1 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

How fricking retarded are you people??

When Putin was asked (In Front of the World ) he eagerly said Yes He wanted Humpy to win.

And Of course he wanted Humpy to win. And when he did win you could hear the Russians popping champagne corks and celebrating from Sarah Palin's front porch.

Mean people will not destroy the world.

We can stop them.

But stupid people surely will.

Because you can't fix stupid.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 10:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Desperate liars are desperate.

#28 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-25 10:44 AM | Reply

Desperate liars are desperate.

#28 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

True.

Humpy is very desperate.

Claiming that the investigation was "illegal" is pretty desperate.
Claiming Mueller was on a witch hunt is pretty desperate.
Claiming the FBI is corrupt and in "tatters"... desperate.
Claiming Bob Mueller totally conflicted was desperate.
Claiming an investigation is a "witch hunt" when it results in multiple Indictments and Convictions is... desperate.

Continuing to deny your president is Crook in spite of the clear evidence he is.

Desperate.

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 10:55 AM | Reply

That someone who wants to destabilize the US prefers him as a candidate and he's too dumb to notice they're helping him?
#23 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-25 08:09 AM

The other side had a candidate too dumb to know they were hurting her. I recommend you choose someone other than those 2 dumb-asses.

#30 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-03-25 12:45 PM | Reply

It was nice of the author to make it 1 full sentence before they stopped relying on truth.
"he owes his job in large part to that help"
I'll accept that when I see some citation for it.

#31 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-03-25 12:47 PM | Reply

I'll accept that when I see some citation for it.

#31 | Posted by Avigdore

As you should. Good point! (a point for Slithering!)

Like we will ALL accept Barr's summary (or not) when we see some citation for it.

#32 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 01:25 PM | Reply

I just don't get why people think Barr's hack of a summary is the Mueller report.

#33 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-25 01:33 PM | Reply

The other side had a candidate too dumb to know they were hurting her.

Actually she brought it up repeatedly during the campaign. What are you on about?

#34 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-25 01:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The author is starting with a false assumption: that Putin wanted Trump to win. He didn't. He wanted Hillary to lose. Trump just happened to be the Republican candidate.

#1 | Posted by MUSTANG

This is the level of logic pretzel repubs have to twist themselves into in 2019.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-25 01:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Desperate liars are desperate.

#28 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

"I never paid stormy daniels."

"I have no business deals in russia"

They certainly are.

#36 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-25 01:59 PM | Reply

And the Internet Research Agency is a private company - that's just it's name, it's not part of the Russian Government. A lot of Russian companies have scary names like that.

#15 | Posted by HeliumRat

Sure putin just allows private intelligence agencies in russia to pursue their own agenda which he has no interest in. And the tooth fairy put money under your pillow.

#37 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-25 02:01 PM | Reply

Can someone walk me through how Russia got Trump elected? Please use specifics. Maybe even use small words so that I can understand.

#14 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019

Very few words have less than one syllable.

#38 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-25 02:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is the level of logic pretzel repubs have to twist themselves into in 2019.

#35 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019

Fantastic, isn't it? Invincible illogic.

#39 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-25 02:03 PM | Reply

I just don't get why people think Barr's hack of a summary is the Mueller report.

#33 | Posted by IndianaJones

I suspect your "getter" may be broke. Amazon might have a few left in stock. You might have to get a used one.

This summary letter is the whole reason Trump fired Sessions and replaced him with Barr.

THE ONLY REASON.

Plain as the Orange Muskrat on Humpy's head.

#40 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 02:28 PM | Reply

#33 | Posted by IndianaJones

You don't "get it" because you are a reasonable logical person with a functional brain.

And you haven't seen the report.

And you also know that Barr was appointed by Trump (after firing poor Jeff Session for actually doing his job correctly) to be the one who gets to place his) spin on the report FIRST. And then let it stew out here.

Now no matter what we see on there this spin is already out there and gets to be there until Barr is ready. Or at least that is what Humpy hopes.

But, then there was Nancy Pelosi. Trump is afraid of her. As he should be. She is gonna bust his balls. All she has to do is summon Mueller to testify as to what was in the report.

And then you definitely will get it.

The Game is Bigger than we can see.

We need another blue wave.

Just one more folks! You can do it!

The only way to fix this correctly is and always has been to vote the bum out.

And then we will ALL "get it" (yes, maybe even the Deplorables).

#41 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 02:46 PM | Reply

#41 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

I get why Barr wrote the letter, and why trump hired Barr.

That still doesn't explain why people are stupid enough to think that Barr's summary is the Mueller report.

Barr's assessment bears as much weight to a rational person as trump's own.

#42 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-25 03:04 PM | Reply

Barr's assessment bears as much weight to a rational person as trump's own.

#42 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES

Barr would face a serious reckoning if he deliberately misrepresented the conclusions of the report.

#43 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-25 03:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nobody in the GOP faces a serious reckoning for anything anymore.

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-25 03:12 PM | Reply

-Nobody in the GOP faces a serious reckoning for anything anymore.

so, this report is a lie?

#45 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-25 03:15 PM | Reply

so, this report is a lie?

#45 | Posted by eberly

No one knows.

What we do know is: trump jr took a meeting with russians about getting dirty on hillary, and trump sr helped write a fake explanation for that meeting. Trump lied about not having any business in russia. Trump has been executing putin's agenda since he was elected. Trump has refused to punish russia for their espionage or strenghten america's defenses. And a bunch of people were willing risk prison to lie about their contacts with russia.

#46 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-25 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't know if it's a lie.

But if it is a lie, the "serious reckoning" the AG faces won't be in court. At most, he'll step down.

That's what I mean by "nobody in the GOP faces a serious reckoning for anything anymore."

Feel free to ask more questions if it will facilitate your understanding.

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-25 03:23 PM | Reply

Barr would face a serious reckoning if he deliberately misrepresented the conclusions of the report.

Pfffffffffft.

Republicans by and large parrot whatever Trump vomits onto his twitter account. There's no reason to think they'd suddenly declamp their mouths from his member just because one more daily political atrocity occurred.

#48 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-25 03:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Al Capone was never indicted on charges of collusion with Russia either. Nor even murder charges. Most would agree, however, that he was not an innocent or honorable person.

#49 | Posted by cbob at 2019-03-25 03:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Barr would face a serious reckoning if he deliberately misrepresented the conclusions of the report.

#43 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

--------. Barr knew he had to control the release of incriminating or politically damaging information or his fat orange boss would send him the way of Sessions.

You can't seriously believe Barr is anything close to impartial based on his public statements. He's doing just enough to make the GOP happy.

#50 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-25 04:25 PM | Reply

The author is starting with a false assumption: that Putin wanted Trump to win. He didn't. He wanted Hillary to lose. Trump just happened to be the Republican candidate.
#1 | POSTED BY MUSTANG AT 2019-03-24 06:56 PM | REPLY | FUNNY: 3

Either you are a liar or a fool.

This is why Republicans are often viewed as simple, guided by fear and willfully ignorant.

Trump was angling for a Moscow construction deal for decades.

They own him lock, stock and tomahawk you moron. All of them. Who loans Trump money? Whom are his embezzlement towers used by? Russians.

#51 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-03-25 04:58 PM | Reply

Republicans by and large parrot whatever Trump vomits onto his twitter account. There's no reason to think they'd suddenly declamp their mouths from his member just because one more daily political atrocity occurred.

Posted by JOE

Have a great day!

#52 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-25 05:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Have a great day!

#52 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

You abandoned every conservative value to join the cult of a con man.

Bon Appetit!

#53 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-25 05:49 PM | Reply

Reading this is so awesome. We have a legal judgement from a special prosecutor, and you just take it. The hysteria and insanity is awesome.

I'm a catastrophe tourist, and I know exactly what is going on.

Also, I think it's funny that a guy got banned from twitter for laughing at at that video of Maddow nearly in tears as she talked about the no further indictments thing.

#54 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-25 06:21 PM | Reply

We have a legal judgement from a special prosecutor, and you just take it. The hysteria and insanity is awesome.

I'm a catastrophe tourist, and I know exactly what is going on.

Also, I think it's funny that a guy got banned from twitter for laughing at at that video of Maddow nearly in tears as she talked about the no further indictments thing.

#54 | Posted by HeliumRat

We have a trump puppet's report about muellers report. We dont have mueller's report.

Now give us a link to that twitter banning you are crying about so we can laugh at where you get your news from.

#55 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-25 06:31 PM | Reply

We have a legal judgement from a special prosecutor

Where?

Can i see it?

#56 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-25 06:32 PM | Reply

Donnerboy -- because you can't fix stupid.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy

Great slogan.

#57 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-25 06:55 PM | Reply

"Barr would face a serious reckoning if he deliberately misrepresented the conclusions of the report.
#43 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Yeah...you'd probably vote Republican for the next sixteen cycles just to rub his nose in it.

#58 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-26 01:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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