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Sunday, March 24, 2019

The investigation led by Robert S. Mueller III found that neither President Trump nor any of his aides conspired or coordinated with the Russian government's 2016 election interference, according to a summary of the special counsel's findings made public on Sunday by Attorney General William P. Barr.

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Barr's Letter: Obstruction of Justice. The report's second part addresses a number of actions by the President most of which have been the subject of public reporting that the Special Counsel investigated as potentially raising obstruction-of-justice concerns. After making a "thorough factual investigation" into these matters, the Special Counsel considered whether to evaluate the conduct under Department standards governing prosecution and declination decisions but ultimately determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment. The Special Counsel therefore did not draw a conclusion one way or the other as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction. Instead, for each of the relevant actions investigated, the report sets out evidence on both sides of the question and leaves unresolved what the Special Counsel views as "difficult issues" of law and fact concerning whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction. The Special Counsel states that "while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

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Meh. Comedy is tragic.

#1 | Posted by dxlingr at 2019-03-24 03:48 PM | Reply

"Trump campaign did not coordinate with Russia to influence election." "Trump campaign did not conspire with the Russians to influence the election."

#2 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

This should be interesting.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-24 04:04 PM | Reply

There is no justice in America, when self evident crimes are not prosecuted.

#4 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 5 | Newsworthy 3

Shall I remind you that the Vice President of the United States shot a man in the face and was able to drive away without even a breathalyzer?

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#4 Self evident only to you? Sorry, Mueller if he could have would have of found something, anything. Not Trump, not anyone in his campaign , not any American. I'm sorry you are so disappointed in the outcome. Most true Americans see this as a victory that no American got involved in conspiring with the Russians to influence a US election.

#6 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 04:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

I've got toadmit, there was enough smoke to presume there was a fire. Funny thing is, I wasnt misled by MSNBC pr CNN, or was Shepard Smith that led me around by the nose.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-24 04:12 PM | Reply

Reuters Top News
‏Verified account @Reuters

MORE: Report identifies no actions that constitute obstructive conduct - Mueller summary report
12:46 PM - 24 Mar 2019

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-24 04:13 PM | Reply

the investigation lasted roughly two years, with a staff of 16 partisan Democrats on staff and tens of millions of dollars spent, Troofy. The investigation yielded several indictments and convictions.

You do understand that collusion isn't a crime, right?

Conspiracy is a crime and it appears as if that didn't happen.

I was pretty sure that some on the left would never accept the outcome of the Mueller report if it didn't produce what they have been so emotionally-invested in for the past 2 years.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-24 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

n the outcome. Most true Americans see this as a victory that no American got involved in conspiring with the Russians to influence a US election.

#6 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Then most Americans are Idiots.

Like you.

The Mueller Report said no such thing.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:14 PM | Reply

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#10 I'm watching CNN, they beg to differ.

#11 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 04:16 PM | Reply

*it was Shepard Smith

#12 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-24 04:16 PM | Reply

The Wolves' appointed representative assures us the sheep are safe.

#13 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-03-24 04:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I Guess Mueller is an ok guy now??

Stand by for more Lies from Humpy & the Deplorables.

Even when the News is good for them they still have to Lie.

See Sarah ShuckAndJive for further details.

#14 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Remember,the WP and NYT won *PULITZERS* for their supposed stellar reporting on Trump's treasonous activity with Russia.

PULITZERS.

#15 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-24 04:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

William P. Barr can only speak for himself. Until and unless we read the full report anything he says as a Trump appointee will be suspect at best.

#16 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-03-24 04:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 4

collusion was with Hillary

now we can start that investigation

#17 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-03-24 04:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

Mueller likely only found what he wanted to find. He is a Republican after all. Dont see why everyone thought this one lone Republican was somehow magically fair when 99.9% of Republicans are ------.

He went into it all on the belief that trump couldnt be indicted anyways.

#18 | Posted by Kreator at 2019-03-24 04:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Not Exonerated.

Trumps crimes and Presidential Abuses of power will be Adjudicated by the House.

Just like they were for President Clinton.

#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#9 this DOES NOT say that no americans got involved. it means they didn't get caught. ...yet.

#20 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-24 04:22 PM | Reply

30 Million spent....on a investigation based on lies written by a ex-British spy paid for by the Democratic party...

While thousands live in plastic tents in Mexico Beach Florida after the hurricane 2 years ago waiting for FEMA assistance because all the funds allocated for this year have been spent. Still a long line waiting for a FEMA Trailer.

#21 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-03-24 04:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well, I guess that leaves Kushner to take the fall.

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-03-24 04:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Most true Americans see this as a victory that no American got involved in conspiring with the Russians to influence a US election.
#6 | Posted by gracieamazed a

Then you're a ------- idiot, because the Trumptilians are doing NOTHING to prevent the Russians from doing the exact same thing.

#23 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21

Save your faux outrage for nation.foxnews.com. and while your at it, remind those in the echo chamber that Manafort forfeited tens of millions of dollars, making this investigation nearly revenue neutral.

But you've known that for months now, and yet here you are still peddling cost of the investigation as a point of scorn. Take your partisan trash back to where it belongs, at The Nation!

#24 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-24 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

MORE: Report identifies no actions that constitute obstructive conduct - Mueller summary report
12:46 PM - 24 Mar 2019
#8 | Posted by nullifidian at

Presidential Appointee Barr's interpretation.

#25 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"30 Million spent....on a investigation based on lies"

Well enough about Benghazi.

Is a National Emergy??

I know where Humpy can get the Money if he really wanted to help.


But Humpy is not interested in helping. Anyone other than himself.

Obviously.

#26 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#21 foreign election interference = true. much of the so-called dossier has been proven.

#27 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-24 04:27 PM | Reply

the investigation lasted roughly two years, with a staff of 16 partisan Democrats on staff ...

This is a lie. The investigation was not partisan. The investigators were not partisan.

#28 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--#9 this DOES NOT say that no americans got involved. it means they didn't get caught. ...yet.

You can't prove a negative. You know about the burden of proof thing, right?

#29 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-24 04:29 PM | Reply

I didn't say the investigation was partisan. I said Mueller chose partisans for his staff. Partisans are capable of being nonpartisan.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-24 04:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 4 | Newsworthy 2

#23 Your little boy anger is showing. You didn't get what you wanted. Using the F word makes you look ever so brilliant and exempt from the word filter. I have cookware like that, Teflon.

#31 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 04:31 PM | Reply

#29 ...didn't get caught. ...yet. there's plenty of evidence.

#32 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-24 04:32 PM | Reply

Bill Barr was appointed by Trump for a reason.

And now we know that reason. He is there to protect Humpy.

Because Jeff Seesions was no Roy Cohn.

After a 2 year investigation Barr made a conclusion in one day after seeing it?

Yeah. Nothing preordained about that decision at all.

The People need to see the report. Before the elections.

Or else I call BS.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:33 PM | Reply

The basic problem is that it is impossible to square the conclusion that no Americans conspired or coordinated with the Russians, when the Stone indictment has Stone coordinating with Wikileaks, Manafort giving the Russians polling data and the Trump Tower meeting (and those are only 3 points)

#34 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:33 PM | Reply

So then that means the GOP got played, just like the NRA did.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-24 04:33 PM | Reply

#32 I was pretty confident that some on the left would refuse to accept this report if it failed to deliver the desired outcome.

It's ironic though. When Trumpers would call this investigation a witch hunt these same lefties would tout all of Mueller's indictments and convictions. You can't have it both ways.

#36 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-24 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#36. I'm pretty confident some will refuse to accept #35.

#37 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-24 04:34 PM | Reply

You do understand that collusion isn't a crime, right?

Collusion is a crime in several quite obvious ways.

One is that candidates and their campaign cannot cooperate or consult with a foreign national who is spending money to influence a U.S. election.

Another is that candidates and their campaign cannot conspire to commit a crime. Hacking the DNC is a crime. Coordinating with the hackers is thus also a crime.

#38 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 04:35 PM | Reply

#23 Your little boy anger is showing. You didn't get what you wanted. Using the F word makes you look ever so brilliant and exempt from the word filter. I have cookware like that, Teflon.
#31 | Posted by gracieamazed

I have stated from the beginning that Trump would never be indicted, impeached or resign. I do want Trump removed in disgrace and sent to prison. I wonder why you don't. Nah, that's a lie, I know why-you have the morals of a sewer rat.

#39 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I said Mueller chose partisans for his staff.

This is a lie. The investigators were not partisan. Stop following the lead of that -------- Trump by attacking FBI investigators. The FBI has far more registered Republicans in it than registered Democrats and has been led far more often in recent years by Republican appointees. You didn't see me using that to impugn rank and file members of the agency.

#40 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 04:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I was pretty confident that some on the left would refuse to accept this report if it failed to deliver the desired outcome.

The report still isn't out yet and you're acting like you've seen it.

#41 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Just as we thought. If muler didn't put this President in an orange suit, the hate filled left will ignore his findings.
Your minds were made up even tho you praised muler the whole time.

#42 | Posted by phesterOBoyle at 2019-03-24 04:38 PM | Reply

How Russia Helped to Swing the Election for Trump

#43 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-24 04:41 PM | Reply

You know about the burden of proof thing, right?

#29 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

The President has not been Exonerated.

So I am eager to see why. Before the Elections.

And as we know there are multiple criminal investigations of Humpy and the Deplorables. Numerous indictments. Numerous convictions.

So you DO know we have proof Humpy and his Deplorables are involved in criminal activity. You DO know that right?

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

You know about the burden of proof thing, right?

#29 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

The President has not been Exonerated.

So I am eager to see why. Before the Elections.

And as we know there are multiple criminal investigations of Humpy and the Deplorables. Numerous indictments. Numerous convictions.

So you DO know we have proof Humpy and his Deplorables are involved in criminal activity. You DO know that right?

#45 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:42 PM | Reply

Here's a source on the actual Mueller Report to reporter Virginia Heffernan of Wired and the Los Angeles Times: "It's really damaging to the president. I can't answer any questions about it. But it's bad."

The same source after Barr released his summary: "The report is much worse than this."

#46 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 04:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"I have stated from the beginning that Trump would never be indicted, impeached or resign."

Confirmed. To the point of being Annoying even!

But as a wise person once said.

Sometimes.

Truth hurts!
😇

#47 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:47 PM | Reply

A link for the "no collusion!" crowd from independent journalist Marcy Wheeler, who is one of the best reporters covering the Russia investigation:

"Either Manafort effectively stole Trump's campaign data and traded it to foreigners for monetary gain. And/or Manafort handed over that data expecting that the campaign would get a thing of value from the foreigners he was sharing it with. ... it is a conspiracy, an agreement with Konstantin Kilimnik to commit one or more crimes, right there in the middle of the election season. Whether Mueller will charge it or do something else with it remains to be seen. But it is fairly clearly a conspiracy, down to the clandestine arrivals and departures from the dark cigar lounge."

www.emptywheel.net

Trump's campaign manager engaged in a criminal conspiracy with a Russian that involved giving him polling data during an election.

If you don't see that as collusion you will never admit that anything could be called collusion.

#48 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Annoying?

I can only state that

Truth Hurts

Donut

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

A senior Trump Campaign official WAS DIRECTED to have stone coordinate with Wikileaks (over the release of stolen emails). If you don't see that as Trump being part of the conspiracy, nothing else would change your mind.

#51 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If I were Trump, I wouldn't be celebrating. A report from a team of fed prosecutors there was evidence a sitting President obstructed justice? Is our bar so low that this is what we want from a Pres? The exoneration here is from Barr (Trump's guy), not Mueller. Need to see Report." -- Supreme Court lawyer and former acting Solicitor General Neal Katyal

#52 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 04:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Anyone notice there are no crows flying around? Yeah well there are some people who had to have a healthy helping this afternoon.
#50 | Posted by gracieamazed

Do YOU notice that you are defending a man who proudly brags about grabbing women by the -----, stealing from a charity and mocking the disabled?

A man who is stupid enough to brag about committing obstruction of justice on tv?

You must be soooooooooo proud

#53 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:54 PM | Reply

For the record, Mueller did not make a conclusion on the obstruction of justice claim, only laying out the facts. Trump appointee Barr came to the conclusion.

#54 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Anyone notice there are no crows flying around?"

There sure seems to be a lot of Turkeys though.

It is Real Shame so many Deplorables have gotten arrested and have been indicted and convicted gone to jail for lying about something that never happened.

Sad!!

#55 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Release the report in full then.

#56 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-24 04:58 PM | Reply

For the record, Mueller did not make a conclusion on the obstruction of justice claim, only laying out the facts. Trump appointee Barr came to the conclusion.

#54 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

That won't stop ShuckAndJive from declaring complete victory and exoneration even though the "summary" clearly states that the report Does Not Exonerate Humpy the Slanderer.

#57 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 04:59 PM | Reply

Mueller laid out the evidence for and against.

Now come the judges. In our case, Congress needs to look at the full report. So do the people.

#58 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-24 04:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Those of you who are so certain the report vindicates Donnie Dumbass should call for its immediate release in full.

#59 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Barr has delivered his interpretation, which is probably correct because Brad Pascal and Cambridge Analytica internet manipulation dwarfs Russian activity by at least two orders of magnitude. Furthermore, gerrymandering and the electoral college are the only reasons Republicans enjoy the power they ruthlessly exploit in DC. It should not be forgotten that, in many cases, it is impossible to distinguish between a Russian troll site and a CIA impersonation of a Russian troll site. Internet misinformation is rampant and hardly limited to Russia.

We rightly deplore Russian interference while preserving the right to engage in it ourselves anywhere in the world. But it is doubtful that Russian interference can hold a candle to all the other foreign Corporate influences that bulldoze through our joke of a democracy in plain sight as foreign campaign contributions.

Trump will parade Barr's words like a bull elephant, breaking all previous records in twitter stupidity.

What will MSNBC have to say for itself now? Oh, how the losers love to hate the victorious Presidents.

#61 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-03-24 05:04 PM | Reply

An illegal investigation?

Now it's time to get to the bottom of Benghazi and Crooked Hillary!!

Now that Humpy the Orange has become Humpy the Innocent days it's time to "investigate the Other Side".

What a frocking creep.

Hey peggedasus!!

There goes your "millions" to help hurricane victims.


#62 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 05:07 PM | Reply

C'mon Rcade, some geek hacks Podesta's email and gets his password that was like 1234 and sells his emails to W leaks. I mean how can you say he wasn't an idiot and a bigger idiot for not having an IT guy to make sure it didn't happen. And would have been saleable if the emails didn't show the DNC was shafting Bernie! I mean the DNC and the left need to own up to that one.

#63 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-03-24 05:07 PM | Reply

Most true Americans see this as a victory that no American got involved in conspiring with the Russians to influence a US election.

#6 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 04:11 PM | Reply

Most true Americans see Donald Trump as a criminal.

Mueller didn't see Donald as indictable beyond a reasonable doubt on the issue of conspiracy with Russia.

Impeachment is the next step. a political remedy.

#64 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 05:09 PM | Reply

#60 | POSTED BY WILLOWBY

The Presnit was Completely Exonerated!!!

ROTF LMAO.

#65 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 05:10 PM | Reply

I was pretty sure that some on the left would never accept the outcome of the Mueller report if it didn't produce what they have been so emotionally-invested in for the past 2 years.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-24 04:13 PM

Or so steeped in facts these last two years.

There's not reason why this is over, or should be over.

In the meantime it would help everyone if you ceased parroting the Trump/Moscow line.

#66 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 05:11 PM | Reply

www.cbsnews.com

Barr says Mueller described the facts surrounding his investigation into allegations of obstruction of justice but made no determination as to whether President Trump committed a crime, deferring to Barr. The report "does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," Barr quotes Mueller as writing.

#67 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-24 05:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

C'mon Rcade, some geek hacks Podesta's email ...

You should avoid talking about the hacking while you remain so obviously ignorant of what occurred. It wasn't "some geek." It was Russian government hackers working for the country's GRU, per Mueller indictments.

www.washingtonpost.com

#68 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 05:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Release the report in full then.

#56 | Posted by BruceBanner a

Tis is the next act in this drama.

If the "victorious" president has nothing to fear, then we get all of Mueller very soon.

If not, then the race justifiably goes on.

#69 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 05:14 PM | Reply

Barr needs to see prison time for his crimes/cover up here!
Lock him up! Lock him up!!!

Trump/Prison 2020

#70 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-03-24 05:15 PM | Reply

a staff of 16 partisan Democrats

Jesus christ you're an idiot.

#71 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-24 05:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

The People need to see the report. Before the elections.

Or else I call BS.

#33 | Posted by donnerboy at

Any of you Trumpers got a problem with this?

#72 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 05:18 PM | Reply

So...Manafort shared campaign polling data with Russia for no reason? Roger Stone coordinated with Wikileaks just for fun? Trump Jr lied under oath without committing perjury? I'm so confused.

#73 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-24 05:19 PM | Reply

A complete whitewashing of the obvious. Why wasn't any of the Trump family questioned under oath?

#74 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-03-24 05:20 PM | Reply

'Barr says Mueller described the facts surrounding his investigation into allegations of obstruction of justice but made no determination as to whether President Trump committed a crime, deferring to Barr. The report "does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," Barr quotes Mueller as writing"

Any of you Trumpers got a problem with this?

#75 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 05:20 PM | Reply

It was close call. Not going to indict but there is whole lot of stuff we could have always indicted him on?

I thought the job of a prosecutor was to say Yes. There was crime or No and we are done.

But this sounds a whole lot like what Comey did to Hillary.

Not enough evidence to prosecute but look at all this stuff WE COULD HAVE INDICTED HER ON!!

This seems to be just another weaponizing the Justice System.

We need (America Deserves) a yes or no answer not more of this political mush.

#76 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-24 05:21 PM | Reply

Not that I give a damn about what Katy Tur says about anything, but some of you do.

Ryan Saavedra

@RealSaavedra

MSNBC's Katy Tur, with a blank look on her face, says regarding the Mueller report: "This vindicates the President on collusion"

#77 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-24 05:28 PM | Reply

"Any of you Trumpers got a problem with this?"

They don't.

(They wouldn't have a problem with it even if it concluded Trump committed a crime.)

#78 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-24 05:30 PM | Reply

"This vindicates the President on collusion"

#77 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-24 05:28 PM | Reply | Flag:

Except that's not what the report, or Barr, says.

So what exactly are you trying to do here?

#79 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 05:30 PM | Reply

You don't have angst at Trump being President, JeffJ?

That's entirely believable.

#81 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-24 05:32 PM | Reply

#80 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-24

Someone has to correct the record you distort, JEFF. No one has fun doing it.

#82 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 05:34 PM | Reply

It's fun for people like JeffJ to try and make other people smell his farts.

That's what most of the Trumpers (and Never Trumper) do around here.

#83 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-24 05:35 PM | Reply

--Except that's not what the report, or Barr, says.

Tell it to Katy Tur, she said it.

Or lefty legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin

"Toobin on @CNN - "total vindication of the President and his staff."
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12:53 PM - Mar 24, 2019

#84 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-24 05:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#80 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-24

Given Mueller absolves Trump from nothing, how does your "fake news" narrative hold up? More interestingly, where did you get it from?

#85 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 05:37 PM | Reply

#87 You're the only person in here lying. What does that say about how this news is affecting you?

#91 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-24 05:44 PM | Reply

www.aclu.org

Barr, who previously served as attorney general under President George H.W. Bush, penned the memo as "a former official deeply concerned with the institutions of the Presidency and the Department of Justice." The memo questions the scope of Mueller's investigation, and it argues that Mueller should not be permitted to demand answers from the president about possible obstruction of justice based on attempts by Trump to pressure former FBI Director James Comey to drop his investigation of Trump's ex-National Security Advisor Michael Flynn.

The fact that Barr sent Trump this memo, and may have subsequently been rewarded with a nomination to join Trump's cabinet, raises serious concerns. To start, the memo's legal theories advance an overly expansive view of presidential power. More specifically, the memo prompts questions about whether Barr would order Mueller to halt further inquiry into possible obstruction by the president if the Senate confirms him. It even raises questions about whether Barr deliberately sought to curry favor with Trump by taking a position favorable to him in order to secure a top government position.

MY WORDS FOLLOW

Barr is tainted. Not to be trusted.

#92 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-24 05:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Very specific and narrow part of investigation does not conclude that enough evidence exists of campaign or Drumpf "collusion."

Inconclusive evidence of obstruction.

But the Russians DID influence the election. The Administration DID have contact with Russians. Being unwitting agents of Russia is still on the table.

This isn't over.

#93 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-03-24 05:45 PM | Reply

675 Days and $40 million dollars later............

#96 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 05:48 PM | Reply

But the Russians DID influence the election. The Administration DID have contact with Russians. Being unwitting agents of Russia is still on the table.

This isn't over.

#93 | Posted by chuffy

And the administration has refused to do anything to fight back at russia's efforts or defend america from them.

#97 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-24 05:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Breaking: Trump may have ties to the U.S. of A.

#98 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 05:50 PM | Reply

...In fact has REWARDED russia for it's attacks with easing of sanctions.

#99 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-24 05:50 PM | Reply

675 Days and $40 million dollars later............

#96 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED AT 2019-03-24 05:48 PM | REPLY

We have more convictions and indictments than 40 years and hundreds of millions spent investigating the Clintons ever managed to get

#102 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-03-24 05:56 PM | Reply

I agree with the one poster who said we should be glad for this finding.

Is your hatred for republicans and Trump and America so great you wish the world could believe the US colluded with Russia?

The world won't see it as "Trump". The world will see it as the United States colluding with a communist country.

I am sorry for anyone would be disappointed by this report.

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson at 2019-03-24 06:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Once again:

The basic problem is that it is impossible to square the conclusion that no Americans conspired or coordinated with the Russians, when the Stone indictment has Stone coordinating with Wikileaks, Manafort giving the Russians polling data and the Trump Tower meeting (and those are only 3 points)

#104 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 06:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

$40 million dollars later

Mueller racked up all of those indictments and convictions for less than half of what the-------------------'s golf outings cost. lol

trumpgolfcount.com

#105 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-03-24 06:12 PM | Reply

Is your hatred for republicans and Trump and America so great you wish the world could believe the US colluded with Russia?

Your hatred of Democrats is so great it made you ask this inane question.

The issue here is about the law and conspiring with a foreign enemy. It isn't about what anyone wishes the world believed.

Countries will make their own conclusions based on evidence and what their intelligence agencies are saying.

Our intelligence agencies conclusively determined that Russia worked to help Trump win.

#106 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 06:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

I agree with the one poster who said we should be glad for this finding.
Is your hatred for republicans and Trump and America so great you wish the world could believe the US colluded with Russia?
The world won't see it as "Trump". The world will see it as the United States colluding with a communist country.
I am sorry for anyone would be disappointed by this report.
#103 | Posted by BillJohnson a

A true patriot wouldn't conflate America and Trump.

The facts is that Russia attacked us during our election and trumptilians have done NOTHING to stop it from happening again.

The FACTS show the Trump campaign colluding with Russia-Stone, Manafort, Jr. Why you don't have a problem with that is well disturbing.

#107 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 06:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him."

lol... the thread where rwingers pretend that this report exonerates him.

#108 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-24 06:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

tunnel vision

#109 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-24 06:35 PM | Reply

I agree with the one poster who said we should be glad for this finding.
Is your hatred for republicans and Trump and America so great you wish the world could believe the US colluded with Russia?
The world won't see it as "Trump". The world will see it as the United States colluding with a communist country.
I am sorry for anyone would be disappointed by this report.
#103 | Posted by BillJohnson a

Oh lovely. Bill Johnson opines. I'd rather have bovine butt sweat in my raw milk than to listen to him.

#110 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-24 06:41 PM | Reply

Is your hatred for republicans and Trump and America so great you wish the world could believe the US colluded with Russia?

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson

Our intelligence agencies conclusively determined that Russia worked to help Trump win.

#106 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 06:18 PM | Reply

#111 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 06:42 PM | Reply

The AG is a Russian agent? We need another special council.

#112 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-24 06:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

In assessing potential conspiracy charges, the Special Counsel also considered whether members of the Trump campaign coordinated with Russian election interference activities. The Special Counsel defined "coordination" as an agreement -- tacit or express -- between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference.
This is the definition footnoted at the bottom of page 2. Obviously, I don't recall anyone ever making the allegation that the Trump campaign "had an agreement" with the Russian government to interfere with the Presidential election. The question has always been whether or not Trumpers were overtly aware (or benignly ignorant) that their actions or inactions (non-reporting of contacts with Russians and cutouts after the FBI asked them to report such contacts) contributed towards the same ends as the Russian counterintelligence operation's goals and against a free and uncorrupted electoral process. I did not realize that any "coordination" with Russian actors would only be defined as such if a "tacit or express agreement" existed between the campaign and the Russian government. I've never known of a counterespionage action to come with an agreement from probable conspirators working towards the same ends.

This definition regards something no one has ever alleged actually happened in any way, shape, or form. Stay tuned for the details from the report that will explain much further than this summary.

#113 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-03-24 06:47 PM | Reply

The AG is a Russian agent? We need another special council (sic).

#112 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-24

The fear has always been that Barr is a ringer.

We need the Mueller report released in full.

I haven't seen any Trump supporter get behind this yet. Why not?

#114 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 06:48 PM | Reply

DC is going to wash away in a flood of liberal tears.

Those of you who are so certain the report vindicates Donnie Dumbass should call for its immediate release in full.

#59 | POSTED BY RCADE

Almost in full. Some of the evidence collected likely was gleaned from Russian sources and may have been collected via intelligence sources. In those cases, the source and means require protection. Release the rest. Not that it will matter. Partisans will find whatever they want to find.

#115 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-03-24 06:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The shady circumstances of Barr's elevation was always going to ----- this issue.

That's Barr's fault, and it's Trump's.

There's more than one remedy available.

#116 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 06:51 PM | Reply

AOC Just chimed it. Mueller? I've never like ever like been to Tijuana, like you know?

#117 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 06:51 PM | Reply

Gracie,

You've lost it.

#118 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-24 06:53 PM | Reply

Partisans will find whatever they want to find.

#115 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-03-24 06:49 PM | Reply

Yep. It's the Collabrationists against everyone else.

#119 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-24 06:56 PM | Reply

#118 Not really. Just making a lighter post to loosen things up. I posted the lyrics to "Feelings' on the Nooner earlie and the Boss got an earworm.

#120 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 06:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Now that Trumpers believe so strongly in Barr (and by extension Mueller), here's a quote from his summary worth a look:

"The Special Counsel found that Russian government actors successfully hacked into computers and obtained emails from persons affiliated with the Clinton campaign and Democratic Party organizations, and publicly disseminated those materials through various intermediaries, including WikiLeaks. Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian military officers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for purposes of influencing the election."

We've been told for over a year by Trumpers and their stooges like Glenn Greenwald that Russia didn't hack the U.S. and didn't use Wikileaks.

#121 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 07:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

I never thought donald's campaign actively colluded with Russia. I think Russia did it on their own to put a clueless moron in power in the US.

#123 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-03-24 07:30 PM | Reply

I want to read the report to see what Mueller's team made of incidents like the Trump Tower meeting with the Russians and Manafort and Gates giving Kilimnik the polling data in the cigar bar.

#125 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:36 PM | Reply

"AOC Just chimed it."

Whether Impeached or Voted Out or Stays Put, Ocasio-Cortez Says Trump 'Symptom of Much Deeper Problems'

Amid new consternation sparked by Mueller report, Congresswoman from New York says key national conversation must go deeper than what becomes of the Republican president

www.commondreams.org

AOC is important because she gives hope to a lot of young people in this country. I was sad to learn that over the weekend two Parkland survivors committed suicided. Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters need hope and courage and tenacity right now, and AOC is able to inspire that for many on the left, which is vital.

#127 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:46 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Why do we continue to call Russia or China communist?? Xi is clearly a dictator, so are Trump's buddies Duterte and Kim Jong-un. Putin exercises many powers of censorship and seeming murder as only a dictator dare do, yet he holds elections. Everyone has been trained to hate the word communist and the US military industrial complex, above all else, needs an enemy to justify its outlandish wasteful spending. Spending which has the effect of depriving many citizens of a decent life.

#128 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-03-24 07:49 PM | Reply

"675 Days and $40 million dollars later......... ... "

Trump Golf Count: 163*

Cost to Taxpayer: About $92,000,000**

*Daytime visits to golf clubs since inauguration, with evidence of playing golf on at least 77 visits. Our last recorded outing was on March 24, 2019. Click on complete data table for a list of Trump's outings, or view our breakdown of total costs.

**Read about the new GAO report on the cost of Trump's trips to Mar-a-Lago.

trumpgolfcount.com

#129 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

#127 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1

Only Gracie, hopefully, would think two young people committing suicide is funny.

#131 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#9 did t take you long to dump the faux objectivity and embrace Trump's talking points.

#132 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-24 07:56 PM | Reply

#130

Trump and his campaign can start because of stoking so much smoke people thought there was a legit fire. Bunch of fumbling fools.

#133 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-24 07:57 PM | Reply

"If anyone cares, I posted the the actual report on the back page as posted by WaPo."

You mean Barr's letter? There's a link to it at the top of the page.

#134 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:58 PM | Reply

#128 | Posted by bayviking

Youtube determined you might like this: www.youtube.com

#135 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-24 08:00 PM | Reply

If rather read the report than Nulli's reposting of tweets from CNN.

Release the full report.

#136 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-24 08:10 PM | Reply

Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1

Reporting from Pete Williams read out on @MSNBC: Bill Barr, in writing the letter sent to the Hill today, did not consult with Mueller, according to a senior DOJ official.
2:45 PM - 24 Mar 2019

#137 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 08:23 PM | Reply

#131 You are a FF. Google AOC 2017. Nothing, nada, zip. Unless she was the love child of the Association of (old) Crows.

www.marines.mil

#138 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 08:32 PM | Reply

Thanks HeRat, the third times the charm.

www.youtube.com

#139 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-03-24 08:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#113 In assessing potential conspiracy charges, the Special Counsel also considered whether members of the Trump campaign coordinated with Russian election interference activities. The Special Counsel defined "coordination" as an agreement -- tacit or express -- between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference.

They didn't find any "coordination", but I wonder if they found any "links"?:

The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation conformed by then-FBI Director James 8. Comey in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:

any links and/or coordination bet ween the Russian government and individuals
associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and

www.nytimes.com

#140 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 08:37 PM | Reply

Gracie: I don't know why you're fixated on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to the point of injecting her into this discussion, but if you're claiming she did nothing in 2017 here she is that year:

www.youtube.com

The National Hispanic Institute named her its 2017 person of the year:

www.nhimagazine.com

"Alex is among the rising difference makers who are destined to impact our future as a country." -- NHI

Ocasio-Cortez is an impressive young woman. We're lucky to have her in Congress.

#141 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 08:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#127 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 07:46 PM | Reply | Flag: | Funny: 1
Only Gracie, hopefully, would think two young people committing suicide is funny.
#131 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Gracie has the morals of a sewer rat.

#142 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 08:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Fair enough RCADE. In December 2017 they named her person of the year a month before she started to campaign. From your link:

"NHI Founder and President Ernesto Nieto, starting in a New Year's Eve tradition of naming an NHI Person of the Year, has selected Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez as NHI's 2017 Person of the Year -- primarily for what she's seeking to do in 2018."

#143 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 08:52 PM | Reply

Peace out. Have a great night everyone.

#144 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-24 08:55 PM | Reply

Meanwhile, President Bucket of ---- admitted to obstruction of justice in 2017.

#145 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-24 08:56 PM | Reply

Gracie: My link also says she's been involved in NHI since she was 16. Which includes 2017 and many other years before it.

If you want to talk about AOC's pre-Congress life we can do that. I don't think it will further your efforts to make her look bad, though.

#146 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 08:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.theatlantic.com

Next, Barr reported that the special counsel concluded that Russia attempted to interfere with the 2016 presidential election. That interference involved disinformation campaigns, efforts to sow "social discord" online, hacking the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party, and distributing misappropriated emails through WikiLeaks. But crucially, Mueller reported that his investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities," whether expressly or tacitly. To use the popular cable-news vernacular, Mueller did not establish "collusion." (Never mind that collusion is not a legal term, and that the special counsel's mission was to investigate "links and/or coordination" with the Russians.)

Trump's triumphant supporters notwithstanding, we don't yet know what that means. When prosecutors say that an investigation "did not establish" something, that doesn't mean that they concluded it didn't happen, or even that they don't believe it happened. It means that the investigation didn't produce enough information to prove that it happened. Without seeing Mueller's full report, we don't know whether this is a firm conclusion about lack of coordination or a frank admission of insufficient evidence. The difference is meaningful, both as a matter of history and because it might determine how much further Democrats in Congress are willing to push committee investigations of the matter.

The other big reveal in Barr's letter is that Mueller "determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment" about whether the president obstructed justice over the course of the two-year investigation of Russian interference in the election. Instead, Mueller laid out the relevant evidence "on both sides" of the issue, but did not resolve what the special counsel saw as the "difficult issues" of fact and law concerning "whether the President's actions and intent could be viewed as obstruction." Mueller's report "does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it does not exonerate him." Mueller punted.

#147 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-24 09:06 PM | Reply

Gracie has the morals of a sewer rat.

#142 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2019-03-24 08:51 PM | FLAG:

A sewer rat has more class than to consume her crappola.

#148 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-24 09:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

slate.com

William Barr Can't Exonerate Donald Trump
Despite what his letter to Congress states, the attorney general's argument clearing the president of obstruction goes against established law, and is profoundly dangerous.

According to Barr, because Mueller concluded that "the evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to election interference," it would be difficult to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to a jury that the president had a "corrupt intent" to interfere with a grand jury or other official proceeding. Barr's argument thus suggests that if a subject of a criminal investigation avoids indictment for the underlying offense -- whether it be insider trading, burglary or election interference -- they should not be charged with criminal liability for efforts to obstruct the investigation of the potential offense, either.

That is simply not the law. Proof of an underlying crime is not an element of an obstruction charge, and individuals are regularly charged with obstruction without facing criminal liability for an underlying offense. To take just one example, Martha Stewart was charged with obstructing an investigation into insider stock trading without facing criminal liability for her trades.

MY WOODS FOLLOW

Barr is tainted. He can not be trusted.

#149 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-24 09:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff

Mueller spent two years investigating obstruction of justice and found evidence that "does not exonerate" Trump. Barr took two days to set aside that evidence.

The entire report must be published and evidence provided to Congress so the American people can judge for themselves.

Mueller did not find sufficient evidence to establish conspiracy, notwithstanding Russian offers to help Trump's campaign, their acceptance, and a litany of concealed interactions with Russia.

I trust Mueller's prosecutorial judgement, but the country must see the evidence.

#150 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 09:20 PM | Reply

"Based on these activities, the Special Counsel brought criminal charges against a number of Russian military officers for conspiring to hack into computers in the United States for purposes of influencing the election."

Imagine if this had gone the other way.
We'd be hearing "international liberal conspiracy" until the day we died.
The funny thing is, even though the Russians worked to help the GOP, we're still going to hear "international liberal conspiracy" until the day we die.

#151 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-24 09:23 PM | Reply

Why do we continue to call Russia or China communist??

I can't speak for Russia, but China has been transformed into a fascist state. They check every block.

#152 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-03-24 09:27 PM | Reply

I wrote the special counsel rules. The attorney general can -- and should -- release the Mueller report.

www.washingtonpost.com

#153 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 09:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I trust Mueller's prosecutorial judgement, but the country must see the evidence.

The only way this can be trusted is if the Mueller Report is released in full.

#154 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 09:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Barr took it upon himself, with the help of Rosenstein, to come to the conclusion to let Trump off the hook. Matt Miller, who served as the Justice Department spokesman during President Barack Obama's administration, questioned why Barr felt it necessary to do so.

This "leaves it to the Attorney General" language is so strange in that it seems to imply Barr had to reach a conclusion, when in fact he didn't. He could've just passed on Mueller's findings, but decided to put his thumb on the scale after a 48 hour review of the facts. pic.twitter.com/sqXERtP5tq
-- Matthew Miller (@matthewamiller) March 24, 2019

#155 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-24 09:50 PM | Reply

Barr's letter does not address the CI investigation, only the criminal one:

Collusion Doesn't Have to be Criminal to be an Ongoing Threat

During the hearing with Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on Wednesday, some members of the House Judiciary Committee did not try to conceal their attempt to discredit and derail Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia during the 2016 election. The way that the Russia investigation has been framed has made it easy for them to do that: Its legitimacy appears to rest on finding a smoking gun of criminality – a simple yes or no on whether any of the cast of characters in this saga committed a serious federal offence.

But making this merely about the bright line between illegality (criminality) and legality means that most Americans are missing what is right under our noses. To wit, there is no question that Russia made multiple, unprecedented attempts to penetrate a U.S. presidential campaign, that its approaches were not rebuffed, and that its contacts were sensitive enough that everyone, to a person, has concealed them. These facts might never be adjudicated inside a courtroom – they may not even be illegal – but they present a clear and present national security threat that we cannot ignore. We write here to broaden the public understanding of that security threat, and to underscore why the principal part of Mueller's investigation -- which is a counterintelligence probe not a criminal one -- is performing a vital role for our country.


www.justsecurity.org

Release the report.

#157 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 10:11 PM | Reply

The only way this can be trusted is if the Mueller Report is released in full.
#154 | Posted by rcade

"In full," is an impossible ask if there was data collected due to a FISA warrant (due to intel collection TTPs), but 90-95% becoming public is feasible and should happen.

#158 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-03-24 10:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I don't think we know how close to 100% full its release can be.

#159 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 10:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#139 | Posted by bayviking

I got the "pool keepers son, don't want to shoot anyone" reference, but the Oregon thing thing mystifies me. Personal?

#160 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-24 10:15 PM | Reply

Trump could be Putin's puppet without criminal collusion:

But the truth is that "collusion" with the Kremlin doesn't have to be criminal to be dangerous. If the Trump campaign received offers of assistance from Russia, and they did nothing to discourage that help (or even encouraged it), they are indebted to a foreign adversary whose national interests are opposed to those of the United States. You can be sure that at some point, Putin will come to collect, if he has not done so already – and when it comes to protecting our democracy the administration will be a puppet of a foreign adversary, not our country's first line of defense. While the potential criminal aspects of this case need to be investigated, we need to take a good look at what we already know. The national security threat is staring us right in the face.

www.justsecurity.org

If it walks like Putin's puppet and it talks like Putin's puppet...

#161 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 10:18 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Reporter Garrett Graff couldn't help but notice that Attorney General Bill Barr's four-page summary of special counsel Robert Mueller's report didn't quote fully.

There were only four places where Barr quoted from the Mueller report, out of the four pages, yet each of the quotes wasn't in context, nor were they the full sentence.

"But I do think it is noteworthy that we saw in this four-page summary, not a single complete sentence out of Mueller's report,"
www.rawstory.com

#162 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-24 10:22 PM | Reply

Ari Melber, former federal prosecutor

"you have these partial quotes," Flannery continued. "Well, what if the quote on page three, ‘while this report does not conclude that the president did not commit a crime it also doesn't exonerate him.' He said ‘the report.' He didn't say ‘as to the question of the obstruction of justice.' He said, ‘the report.' The whole report doesn't conclude he committed a crime."

Melber got into the punctuation of the Barr letter that quotes the "best sentence" that does or does not exonerate Trump. He noted that the quote from Mueller began in the middle of a sentence in the Mueller report. He could tell because the word "the" began with a bracketed capital "t."

As the report states: "[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

"So, it is the one that you are going hear the most of," Melber said.

"That it wasn't the beginning of a sentence," Flannery agreed. "Something preceded it. And they put the bracket there as the beginning with a capital T."

Melber said that a lawyer might change the meaning of it by beginning the sentence in any manner of ways.

"A lot of the comments afterward -- there is no evidence," Flannery continued. "They never say that even in this P.R. construct. They say, ‘The investigation did not establish ... ' OK, it did not establish this crime? Well, what was your standard? Was it beyond a reasonable doubt, which is not the standard for a grand jury or any investigation I ever ran when you begin it because the case continues and you get more evidence and people cooperate and people drop off. So, that is not the standard. Also did not establish according to what crime? When they issued these thousands of subpoenas, everyone probably, at least said, Section 371 which is a conspiracy charge. They don't tell us what the charge is."

He also concluded that Barr probably shouldn't have gone near commenting about obstructions of justice.

#164 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-24 10:41 PM | Reply

#163 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-24 10:31 PM

Your comment is nothing but self ------------, and a stupid Ad hominem

#165 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-24 10:46 PM | Reply

#160, HeRat,

bookkeeper's son...

..do you have a dark spot in your past?
leave it to my man, he'll fix it fast!

#166 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-03-24 10:47 PM | Reply

#9 did t take you long to dump the faux objectivity and embrace Trump's talking points.

#132 | Posted by jpw

You'll have to find someone else to dump your pointless posts on for the next few weeks.

#167 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-24 10:48 PM | Reply

#163 | Posted by Rightocenter

You accept the Reader's Digest version written by a Trump appointee as being true and faithful to the full report...without seeing the full report?

Sorry, I don't nor won't. Full report should be released.

#168 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-24 10:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You'll have to find someone else to dump your pointless posts on for the next few weeks.

#167 | Posted by nullifidian

I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.

#169 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-24 10:50 PM | Reply

Most true Americans see this as a victory that no American got involved in conspiring with the Russians to influence a US election.

#6 | Posted by gracieamazed

Most true Americans...

Go f--- yourself. Hack.

#170 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-24 10:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

David Cay Johnston @DavidCayJ

May turn out to be very significant that AGBarr's letter refers to Russian "government," but not to Vladimir's gang of oligarchs?

Legally the oligarchs are not the Kremlin, but they are Putin's useful tools for undermining democracy.

#171 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 11:03 PM | Reply

Breaking: Trump may have ties to the U.S. of A.

#98 | Posted by gracieamazed

You're a prime example of why fake patriotism is a dangerous thing.

You're also a gullible fool.

#172 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-24 11:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Is your hatred for republicans and Trump and America so great you wish the world could believe the US colluded with Russia?

I am sorry for anyone would be disappointed by this report.

#103 | Posted by BillJohnson

I'm sorry for you, for your apparent sad, delusional thinking that leads you to conflate Trump and his merry band of ---- stains with America.

Trump =/= America.

The right =/= America.

Mouth breathing Trump supporters =/= America.

#173 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-24 11:08 PM | Reply

#163 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-24 10:31 PM

Your comment is nothing but self ------------, and a stupid Ad hominem

#165 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-24 10:46 PM |

Oh for God sake Rcade.

OK fine

Your comment is nothing but self pleasure, and a stupid Ad hominem

#174 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-24 11:13 PM | Reply

I don't control the words the robots replace. I use a web service. The most I can do is undo what they've done manually, but that's usually not worth the time.

#175 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 11:20 PM | Reply

#175 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-24 11:20 PM | Re

Nah changing my comment would certainly be classified as not worth you're time.

But thank you for the explanation

#176 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-24 11:24 PM | Reply

Your comment is nothing but self pleasure, and a stupid Ad hominem

#174 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM AT 2019-03-24 11:13 PM | FLAG:

Whacking the whicket Stick.

#177 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-24 11:38 PM | Reply

Nunes on Mueller report: 'We can just burn it up'

thehill.com

#178 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-24 11:41 PM | Reply

twitter.com

Interesting Twitter rant on the nature of "direct evidence" and the likelihood of it being found in this case.

Curious as to the DR's lawyer's critiques of the content.

#179 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-25 12:27 AM | Reply

There are other ways to beat President Trump

I hope you lefties will realize that, and raise your game, instead of trying to tear down our president

Hillary lost more than Trump won

Come up with some better ideas or keep losing

PLUS you risk radicalizing people like Cavanagh and Trump when you go after them and they are innocent ( which is of course debatable)

#180 | Posted by drivelikejehu at 2019-03-25 12:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Attorney General William Barr told Congress on Sunday that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had concluded that the evidence Robert Mueller developed during his special counsel investigation "is not sufficient to establish" that President Donald Trump committed obstruction of justice.

What Barr's letter doesn't mention is that less than a year ago, he'd criticized Mueller's focus on obstruction of justice in an unsolicited 19-page memo to Justice Department officials.

"Mueller's core premise ― that the President acts ‘corruptly' if he attempts to influence a proceeding in which his own conduct is being scrutinized ― is untenable," Barr wrote in the 2018 memo. Barr said that the president would not be transgressing any legal limitation if he exercised his "supervisory authority" over cases dealing with his own interests. "It may be in some cases politically unwise; but it is not a crime," Barr argued.

"The practical implications of Mueller's approach, especially in light of its ‘shapeless' concept of obstruction, are astounding," Barr wrote.
www.huffpost.com

#181 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-25 01:05 AM | Reply

"675 Days and $40 million dollars later............"

You're using Republican Math™.

Muller was budgeted at $10.4 million the first year. Muller was budgeted at $10.4 million the second year. Even without Manafort's forfeitures, that's roughly half your claim.

With Manafort and other the forfeitures and fines, you're just a lying gasbag.

#182 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-25 01:40 AM | Reply

As of December 2018, Mueller had forfeitures covering $25 million
thinkprogress.org

Where's your $40 million, gasbag?

#183 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-25 02:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Poor lefties have a serious case of ED...

#184 | Posted by Greatamerican at 2019-03-25 02:12 AM | Reply

let the pardoning begin! 💩

#185 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-25 03:23 AM | Reply

#184 apparently you're unaware of righties penchant for accusing others what they're guilty of...

#186 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-25 08:35 AM | Reply

Well that was anti-climatic.

#187 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-03-25 09:13 AM | Reply

Welcome to the telephone game; right wing minimizing edition

In any court, hearsay is not allowed. What Barr says is not evidence. It is not fact. It is hearsay

#188 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-03-25 09:40 AM | Reply

I don't think we know how close to 100% full its release can be.

#159 | POSTED BY RCADE

I am not sure about you but I prefer a full %100 release.

If I don't get a full release then it just is not satisfying. It's like Something is missing!! And maybe it is the most important thing!!

So anyway if no full release and then I have to start all over.

So we must have Full Release People!

Full Release!

Full Release!

FULL RELEASE!!

#189 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 10:19 AM | Reply

I am sorry for anyone would be disappointed by this report.

#103 | POSTED BY BILLJOHNSON

Remember that you had this thought.

If/When the actual report is released.

#190 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 10:23 AM | Reply

I am not sure about you but I prefer a full %100 release.
#189 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

I agree. I get the feeling that the secrecy around this report involves names that are not associated with the WH.
Full disclosure.

#191 | Posted by Vaquero at 2019-03-25 10:27 AM | Reply

Other than that stupid tax cut for the rich, we got through two years of a Republican controlled White House and Congress without many stupid right wing domestic policies going into place. Mueller: Mission Accomplished.

#193 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-03-25 11:20 AM | Reply

I trust Mueller's report.

If he found no evidence, I believe Trump did not commit illegal coordination (collusion).

And I'm glad to see the Conservative posters all of the sudden think Mueller is honest and worth listening to.

I hope they will feel the same way when the full report comes out and all other potential criminal activity is analyzed.

#194 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-03-25 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Full Release!
Full Release!
FULL RELEASE!!

#189 | Posted by donnerboy

You gotta tip first.

#195 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-25 11:57 AM | Reply

Hey Fellas! Is tomorrow the day Trump gets indicted?

#192 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

January 16, 2021 has been my guess for a while now.

#196 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-25 12:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You gotta tip first.

#195 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

If we tip generaously, will your support full release?

#197 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-25 12:02 PM | Reply

Too scared to say "no"?

#198 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-25 12:07 PM | Reply

Trump/Russia AG: "No collusion, No collusion."

I'll wait for the Mueller report. I don't care about the ----------- looking Al Franken's twist.

#199 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-25 12:13 PM | Reply

Trump/Russia AG: "No collusion, No collusion."

We are all very happy that our president was not caught red handed conspiring with Russia.

And now we are ready for the rest of the story. Because we all know Russia was conspiring with someone and Trump was/is lusting after that dirty pee soaked Russian money.

#200 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 12:29 PM | Reply

Full Release!
Full Release!
FULL RELEASE!!

#189 | Posted by donnerboy

You gotta tip first.

#195 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Ok. Just the Tip. I promise!

But, I do insist on a Full Release.

It's just how I roll baby.

#201 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 12:31 PM | Reply

Curious as to the DR's lawyer's critiques of the content.

#179 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-03-25 12:27 AM

Not having read Seth Abramson's book, he's not wrong about the fact that conspiracies are mostly proven by indirect/circumstantial evidence, but I think as of those tweets in Feb. 2019 he was starting to realize that entire premise of his upcoming book was becoming irrelevant with the release of the Mueller Report, and those fears have now been realized.

#194

I agree 100% and we should be able to see everything that is not a matter of national security. Given what we have heard from Barr, I am pretty sure it won't be everything that people on the Left were hoping for as well. Like I have said from the beginning, let all the chips fall where they may.

#202 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-25 01:41 PM | Reply

Other than that stupid tax cut for the rich, we got through two years of a Republican controlled White House and Congress without many stupid right wing domestic policies going into place. Mueller: Mission Accomplished.

#193 | POSTED BY MODER8 AT 2019-03-25 11:20 AM | FLAG:

We haven't even managed to invade anybody in the perfect time to wag the dog.

#203 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-03-25 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

We need the full report so we can chase a few more ghosts for another two years.

#204 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-03-25 02:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We need the full report so we can chase a few more ghosts for another two years.

#204 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake

You mean like we are doing with the ghost of Hillary's emails and the Ghosts of Benghazi??

Yes, we need more Ghosts! Ghosts should be transparent! Wait... I guess they are.

anyway...yay! transparent ghosts in every pot!

I am just so glad that crooked Hillary wasn't elected President by the electoral college!

Can you imagine the years of scandals and indictments and convictions and crooked dealings and how Sad old Pooty Poot would be right now?

Thank Gawd for America... what a country!! (even still)

#205 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 02:59 PM | Reply

...according to Barr.
you know, the man who already went on record as stating the president cannot commit a crime that he obviously committed.
The corruption continues apace.
Thank God we didn't elect Hillary, eh?
Things are so much more ethical now.

#206 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-03-25 05:23 PM | Reply

and those fears have now been realized.

I still think you're jumping the gun with these statements. We have no idea how accurate or faithful Barr's summary is.

#207 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-25 06:00 PM | Reply

There is no justice in America, when self evident crimes are not prosecuted.
#4 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Watching smart people suffer from cognitive dissonance.

#208 | Posted by JordyPete at 2019-03-25 07:46 PM | Reply

We have no idea how accurate or faithful Barr's summary is.

#207 | POSTED BY JPW

Humpy only hires the Best don't you know?

Anyway I trust Barr. About as far as I can throw. Barr was obviously picked for one reason.

This summary

And it's like the Failing New York Times got it right way back in dec 2018.

Humpy finally got his "Roy Cohen".

#209 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 07:51 PM | Reply

I trust Bill Barr as far as I can throw... up.

What a nauseating President. The best thing America can do with this mess now is make this clown a one term president.

2020 cannot come too soon for America.

Which reminds me to say.

Full Release!!

#210 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-25 07:54 PM | Reply

There is no justice in America, when self evident crimes are not prosecuted.
#4 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS
Watching smart people suffer from cognitive dissonance.
#208 | Posted by JordyPete at

Evangelicals suffer from ethical dissonance supporting President Bucket of ----.

#211 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-25 08:11 PM | Reply

The best thing America can do with this mess now is make this clown a one term president.

Well one could argue letting him swim in his own deficit-ridden ---- for another term would be entertaining.

#212 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-03-25 08:12 PM | Reply

If you think Trump was a bad president, wait until you see his act as an ex-president.

(Now I want to see Point Break)

#213 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-03-25 08:16 PM | Reply

It's just how I roll baby.

#201 | Posted by donnerboy

Poseur.

*use comma next time, ya baby rolling dope*

#214 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-25 10:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

We have no idea how accurate or faithful Barr's summary is.

#207 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-03-25 06:00 PM

With the scrutiny that he knows his statements will ultimately come under, I am pretty confident that they are both accurate and faithful. That is not to say that I wouldn't put it past him to omit certain things, but what he did put in writing probably checks out 99%

#215 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-26 12:14 AM | Reply

#214

That was an excellent catch, eats shoots and leaves...

#216 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-26 12:15 AM | Reply

The meltdown of the radical left is pure comedy. The fulminating, teeth gnashing and sophomoric posting is hilarious.

#217 | Posted by willowby at 2019-03-26 01:04 AM | Reply

I favor releasing the full report. As to underlying documents relating to people not charged with crimes, the House may have to do its own homework on that.

I would trade unsealing 10 grand jury records for each FISA warrant file.

#218 | Posted by Nuke_Gently at 2019-03-26 07:16 AM | Reply

Anyway I trust Barr. About as far as I can throw. Barr was obviously picked for one reason.
This summary

Yes lunatic, Barr is completely lying about the contents of the report, and Mueller and everyone involved for the last two and a half years is staying quiet about it as their reputations are destroyed from his lying. Sounds totally plausible.

#219 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-03-26 09:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"I don't control the words the robots replace. I use a web service. The most I can do is undo what they've done manually, but that's usually not worth the time."

I thought you had an IT/programming background. I always assumed you wrote the script, which is basically just a find and replace text from a list, or at the very least had access to the master file with the list. Simple python stuff.

#220 | Posted by Sentinel at 2019-03-26 09:06 AM | Reply

Barr covered up the entire Iran-Contra and Iraqgate scandals. He sent a 19 page letter bragging about that fact to Trump who promptly appointed Barr to be his next Attorney General. Prosecutor Lawrence Walsh bitterly condemned the highest ranking officials in those scandals, including Reagan, Bush and Barr. Probably the most treasonous acts to ever emanate from the White House. Trump's are real but tame by comparison

#221 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-03-26 10:38 AM | Reply

"The meltdown of the radical left is pure comedy."

Mission Accomplished heh??

Presidential Accountability is funny stuff!! You should have seen Humpy just BEFORE the Barr Report was released.

Nothing compares to a weekend of Humpy Toilet Terror Tweetdowns.

And now Humpy is happy!! 2 years of investigations and no charges!! Well no charges against Humpy. And of course that is ALL Humpy cares about. HAPPY HUMPY! Now it's time to investigate the investigators! How dare they "ILLEGALLY" investigate our Dear Leader!!

And if you want to see some Real Knashing of Teeth wait until nov 2020. It's just around the corner!!

We gonna have some fun then!!! The Funny will be Fast and Furious.

And the Humpy Tweetdowns are gonna be Epic.

#222 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-26 10:42 AM | Reply

D-boy, you have come unhinged. How many times you gonna pump yourself in front of everybody?

#223 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-26 10:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Evangelicals suffer from ethical dissonance supporting President Bucket of ----.
#211 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Nope.

The President of the US is not a moral leader. You've destroyed all of yours. The closest you have to a moral leader is Al Gore and AOC.

#224 | Posted by JordyPete at 2019-03-26 06:00 PM | Reply

The President of the US is not a moral leader.
#224 | POSTED BY JORDYPETE

It's sad that you don't take issue with this point.

#225 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-26 06:16 PM | Reply

#214
That was an excellent catch, eats shoots and leaves...
#216 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

That's what earns praise?

Sheesh. I thought you had a higher bar; forgive my assumptions.

#226 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-26 06:19 PM | Reply

How many times you gonna pump yourself in front of everybody?

#223 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

Well that pretty much depends. Doesn't it.

On how much Deplorable 💩 you Deplorables try to feed us.

No Deplorable 💩.

No pumping!

#227 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-26 07:00 PM | Reply

The President of the US is not a moral leader.
#224 | POSTED BY JORDYPETE

You got that right!!

Humpy is not the moral leader of anyone. Anyone with actual morals that is.

But the President of the US, as the Chief Law Enforcer of the Land. Does have a higher accountability to his duty and a and even bigger responsibility to obey the law himself. As he is required by the Constitution to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed".

So I guess it's up to you (the People) and Congress to decide whether Humpy is faithfully executing Congress's Will (the Law) or not.

#228 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-26 07:15 PM | Reply

The President of the US is not a moral leader.
#224 | POSTED BY JORDYPETE
It's sad that you don't take issue with this point.
#225 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

What's the issue exactly? Trump is no more wicked than FDR, JFK, Clinton (yeah, both).

Why would I take issue with any of it especially since all of the stories about Trump are just political propaganda made up by people who are far more morally corrupt than Trump. I would take issue with the assault, but that's not true. Bill Clinton raped a woman and got away with it! Who did Trump rape? Who did Trump assault?

#229 | Posted by JordyPete at 2019-03-27 10:29 AM | Reply

But the President of the US, as the Chief Law Enforcer of the Land. Does have [a] higher accountability to his duty and a and even bigger responsibility to obey the law himself. As he is required by the Constitution to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed".
So I guess it's up to you (the People) and Congress to decide whether Humpy is faithfully executing Congress's Will (the Law) or not.
#228 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Yep!!! You are correct!!

So, which laws did Trump break exactly? It appears that a special investigation spent millions and couldn't come up with anything. If there was a special investigation into Obama's activities, and there wasn't, they would find numerous laws broken by the Obama Administration by the FBI, the IRS, etc.

That's my point. You don't want to go there, so why do you? You attacking Trump over and over appears to be a projection of a bigger evil that is trying desperately to hide. Now that the Mueller investigation is over, the focus will be turned to the enemy within. The actual criminals. I don't believe that Obama, Bush or Clinton were criminals, but they enabled a fascist criminal element to grow within the Federal Government. The permanent government.

#230 | Posted by JordyPete at 2019-03-27 10:39 AM | Reply

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