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Friday, March 22, 2019

Two mystery litigants citing privacy concerns are making a last-ditch bid to keep secret some details in a lawsuit stemming from wealthy financier Jeffrey Epstein's history of paying underage girls for sex. Just prior to a court-imposed deadline Tuesday, two anonymous individuals surfaced to object to the unsealing of a key lower-court ruling in the case, as well as various submissions by the parties. Both people filed their complaints in the New York-based 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, which is overseeing the case. The two people said they could face unwarranted speculation and embarrassment if the court makes public records from the suit.



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Hmmm, John Doe number one, hires a former Federal Prosecutor in Manhattan to keep his name sealed...I wonder who on earth that can be?

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-21 04:22 PM | Reply

"Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?"

Epstein pleaded the Fifth Amendment to the question

Trump himself once told New York Magazine:
"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy," Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

#2 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-21 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I wonder who on earth that can be?

Who? And what are the chances this tactic works and we won't ever find out the answer?

#3 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-03-21 09:50 PM | Reply


This is from the Miami Herald article on these motions:

Jane Doe, represented by Kerrie Campbell, a Washington-based gender equality lawyer, appears to be a victim who wants to remain unidentified, but indicated she is amicable to the release of some information -- as long as it doesn't identify her, court documents filed this week show.

The other party, John Doe, submitted a brief in support of Maxwell, who continues to mount a last-ditch legal campaign to keep court records that allegedly contain details of their sex exploits involving young girls -- and other third party people who may be involved -- under seal.

It's not clear whether the latest challenges will delay release of the documents, said Sanford Bohrer, attorney for the Miami Herald, which filed an action to unseal the files last year as part of its investigation into Epstein called "Perversion of Justice.''

John Doe, in his amicus brief, claims that he was not party to the Maxwell lawsuit, and has never been publicly identified or accused by Giuffre of being a co-conspirator of Epstein or "a person with whom she had sexual relations,'' according to the brief, filed Tuesday by lawyers Nicholas J. Lewin, Paul M. Krieger and Nicholas F. Bolz in New York.

"So if he didn't do anything, then why doesn't he want to be identified?'' Bohrer said.

Trump has always been open about visiting Epstein's island at least once and his lack of panicked tweeting over this seems to indicate that he isn't the NY resident who filed as John Doe. The most prominent NY resident that hung out with Epstein is Bill Clinton, but I am sure that there are others who flew on the Lolita Express who don't want their names released as well.

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-21 10:26 PM | Reply

Flight records say Trump never visited Lolita Island. Bill Clinton went 23 times. I've vaguely heard he sort of knew Epstein was very rich, but didn't care - he had Putin :)

#5 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-21 10:40 PM | Reply

I don't know if Epstein could land his jet at his island, those flights were to other locations. According to the flight manifests, Clinton flew 26 times, 7 of those without his security detail, which is highly unusual.

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-21 10:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

In an opposite twist:

Attorney Dershowitz demands FBI open criminal investigation into himself and his accusers in Epstein sex assault case


#7 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-22 12:08 AM | Reply

Clinton may very well be the John Doe in question. That said, it is weird that Epstein's lawyers were Alan Dershowitz and Ken Starr and that Alex Acosta, the prosecutor who gave Epstein the sweetheart deal, was appointed Secretary of Labor by Trump. None of those men would have an vested interest in protecting Bill.

#8 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-22 12:23 AM | Reply

I don't understand how Starr came to represent Epstein in the first place. Unless he did it to try to get information on Bill from the inside? And maybe he did, but maybe he also learned about some bigwig Republicans--and I don't mean Trump--who were also compromised?

#9 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-22 12:31 AM | Reply

#7 Forgot to post this from the Miami Herald investigative reporter who's been digging into the Epstein case:

julie k. brown @jkbjournalist

I don't know anyone who has seen Dershowitz's evidence. I've asked to see it many many times. I've asked to see the Freeh report and got one page. So perhaps the FBI can get to the bottom of it because he is sure accusing a lot of people of lying.
7:42 PM - 21 Mar 2019

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-22 12:42 AM | Reply

#10 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Heh. Evidence. It is to laugh. More than half of America realizes what is going on. Some are unsure, and a small fraction totally deluded.

As a self-described political operative, I hope your time on the DR has taught you something.


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#11 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-22 01:06 AM | Reply

Dershowitz has gone full Trump and become something of a laughingstock in the legal community. Makes one suspect he was also poking minors at Epstein's parties and those in the know told him to get out there and support Trump wholeheartedly to the public .. or else!

As it is, he's a pariah among his former social group.

#12 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-22 01:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#12 Awesome. NW.

#13 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-03-22 01:19 AM | Reply

Dershowitz even wrote a book called "The Case Against Impeaching Trump" long before anyone was even talking about impeachment.

His hard right, Trumplican turn seems pretty suspicious ...

#14 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-22 01:36 AM | Reply


Agreed, but since he is moving to unseal the documents, we know for sure that he isn't John Doe.

#15 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-22 04:30 PM | Reply

And one of them is bill clinton................

#16 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-03-23 05:54 PM | Reply

Dotard and Epstein tag-teamed a 13 year old.


#17 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-03-23 06:08 PM | Reply

And one of them is bill clinton................


SNIPPY... please oh please go after Clinton again....please please, please!!! It's so much fun for us when you do! You either come up empty handed... like most of the time... and when you finally snag him on something ... like that one time... you take down half the clown brigade in the process... so shoot yer best shot Bozo.

It's a real time saver for us... and it's sort of how this current spate of clownery is transpiring.
You have so many witches in your clown coven it makes the hunt easy... like shooting pigs in a barrel... messy for you... fun for us.

I hear there's a pizza parlor in DC you might be interested in.

#18 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-24 07:56 AM | Reply

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