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Thursday, March 21, 2019

An off-duty pilot in the cockpit of a Boeing 737 Max 8 jet jumped in to help crew disable a malfunctioning flight-control system as it experienced difficulties in October, according to Bloomberg. The next day, with a different crew, the same plane crashed into the sea off Jakarta, killing all 189 people on board.

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Safety equipment that could have helped was an extra charge from Boeing.

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Does this mean the airline now gets to share liability with Boeing?

#1 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2019-03-21 01:53 PM | Reply

Doomed Boeing Jets Lacked 2 Safety Features That Company Sold Only as Extras

www.nytimes.com

Good question. It might depend on how common it is to have to save a plane.

#2 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-21 02:33 PM | Reply

A handful of other miraculous saves:

The Time a B-52 Landed Without a Tail Fin
A midair accident meant the crew had to learn to fly without a tail fin -- and fast.

STORY

And WWII stories ... especially the one about the B-17 whose tail section fell off as soon as they landed):

"The tail gunner was trapped at the rear of the plane because the floor connecting his section to the rest of the plane was gone. The plane, piloted by a Lieutenant Kendrick Bragg, flew 90 minutes back to base with the tail barely hanging on. By one account, it wagged like a dog's tail, and the pilot, after dropping his bombs, made a U-turn 70 miles across so as not to stress the tail. When the plane landed and came to a stop, the tail finally broke off."

PHOTO

#3 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-21 02:45 PM | Reply

Does this mean the airline now gets to share liability with Boeing?

#1 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS AT 2019-03-21 01:53 PM | FLAG:

They were always on the hook. This just makes it worse.

When an individual kills 150 people they go to jail.

When an airline kills 150 people they go bankrupt and the C-suite gets bonuses.

#4 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-21 03:38 PM | Reply

#3

BTW, that jet goes by "Christine" nowadays. Like the car from the Stephen King novel.

The vertical stabilizer wasn't the last of her problems...she was aptly named. But she hasn't crashed yet.

#5 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-03-21 08:28 PM | Reply

MAD BOMBER

Why are planes called "she."

#6 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-03-21 10:59 PM | Reply

Doomed Boeing Jets Lacked 2 Safety Features That Company Sold Only as Extras
www.nytimes.com
Good question. It might depend on how common it is to have to save a plane.

#2 | POSTED BY BRUCEBANNER AT 2019-03-21 02:33 PM | REPLY

Sensationalist article written by somebody who's never been in an airliner cockpit. One is a backup analog gauge for something you already see on your glass panel. The other is a warning light for a sensor disagreement you don't need. For this error, the trim wheel is very rapidly moving on its own to the extremes. The trim wheel is next to your knee. You can't miss it. It looks like this:

737 Trim Operation

#7 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-03-22 07:53 AM | Reply

Why are planes called "she."

Because they're incredibly complicated.

;)

#8 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-22 08:00 AM | Reply

Southwest is changing their Primary Flight Displays because of this.

On the PFD, in the center, is the electronic artificial horizon which already shows the AoA and vector, and now an extra AoA indicator with a white background in the upper right corner has been added. That's in addition to the AoA display in the HUD itself. Now you can see your AoA 3 ways instead of 2. I feel so much safer now.

#9 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-03-22 10:20 AM | Reply

Why are planes called "she."...........#6 | POSTED BY TWINPAC

it's the pronoun they choose to be identified with. are you suggesting the plane that crashed had identity issues?

#10 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-03-22 11:27 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Pilots have been taught to RELY on automatic flight control systems as SOP. Pilot training or lack thereof is the root cause.

#11 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2019-03-23 09:07 AM | Reply

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