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Wednesday, March 20, 2019

The figures, obtained through the government's FOIA online database, reveal a clear increase in requests for information from the agency once Trump was elected president.

The New York Times, for example, made just 13 FOIA requests during the four years of Obama's second term, sending 3 in 2013, 1 in 2014, 7 in 2015, and 2 in 2016. The number of FOIA requests the Times sent for Obama's entire second term was nearly quadrupled in the first year of Trump's presidency alone, when the Times sent 59 FOIA requests to the EPA.

Reporters at the Times have made 100 FOIA requests since Trump took office just over two years ago, a 669 percent increase of the number of FOIA requests it made during the four years of Obama's second term.

Reporters at the Washington Post sent just a single FOIA request to the EPA during Obama's entire second term, and have sent 43 FOIA requests to the agency since Trump took office.

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I can't think of a clearer case of liberal media bias than this.

I'm glad these outlets are aggressively acting as a watchdog for this administration.

What's unfortunate is these very same outlets were a borderline propaganda-outlets for the Obama administration.

#1 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-20 02:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

That 669% was NYT.

From the linked article:

The sharp increase in FOIA requests to the EPA was also apparent at Politico (15 requests in Obama's second term, 198 since Trump took office), The Hill (20 requests in Obama's second term, 67 since Trump took office), CNN (25 requests in Obama's second term, 47 since Trump took office), Buzzfeed (18 requests in Obama's second term, 38 since Trump took office), and ABC News (4 requests in Obama's second term, 32 since Trump took office).

#2 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-20 02:50 PM | Reply

"I can't think of a clearer case of liberal media bias than this"

Never occurred to this sap that OBAMA didn't lie with the same regularity

#3 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-20 03:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

an FOIA is only necessary when "I"nformation is being withheld.

stupid ----

#4 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-20 03:03 PM | Reply

"I can't think of a clearer case of"

Trump withholding information from the public

fixed it for you

#5 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-20 03:04 PM | Reply

I see my shizoid stalker is following me around again.

#6 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-20 04:00 PM | Reply

Never occurred to this sap that OBAMA didn't lie with the same regularity

#3 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

Clearly didn't occur to this sap that Obama was lying, too. Seriously, Chuffles...you might be the dumbest member of the DR.

www.washingtonexaminer.com

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#7 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-03-20 04:03 PM | Reply

"I can't think of a clearer case of liberal media bias than this."

You can't think.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-20 04:06 PM | Reply

Step 1. Stop reading The Free Beacon.

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-20 04:20 PM | Reply

Yawn. Trump is far more than 669% more corrupt than Obama, so I see this as a clear case of the MSM treating DOTUS with kid gloves.

#10 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-20 05:03 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Speaking of Dumb

How's your postcard tax returns going, misty

#11 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-20 05:43 PM | Reply

You know what else is dumb

Creating a thread in the retort, then calling someone who posts on that thread a "stalker"

#12 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-20 05:47 PM | Reply

Creating a thread in the retort, then calling someone who posts on that thread a "stalker"

POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES AT 2019-03-20 05:47 PM | REPLY

Sounds like a whiner to me. Better ring up a waaaaaaaaambulance for him.

#13 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-20 05:53 PM | Reply

----- creates thread

----- speculats a conspiracy is to blame for a rise in requests for information from the government.

----- gets testy, because ridiculous!

#14 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-20 05:56 PM | Reply

Jeff, did it not occur to you that the increase is because the current administration is completely scummy and trying to hide all of its scummy dealings from the public. I know you like to think of yourself as some sort of objective thinker, but you sound like a full on trumper with this BS.

#15 | Posted by schmanch at 2019-03-21 08:59 AM | Reply

#15 | POSTED BY SCHMANCH

That is a partial explanation. But a 669% increase in the first 2 years compared with the last 4 of Obama?

Extreme bias is the only explanation for that much of a disparity.

The MSM was (and still remains) mostly a propaganda arm of the Obama administration.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 09:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Never occurred to this sap that OBAMA didn't lie with the same regularity
#3 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES

But he did lie ... and Obama's lies affect more people; healthcare, Syria, Libya.... people were affected horribly.

But how would you know if he didn't lie more? If they didn't investigate anything?

This is how confirmation bias works.

Perhaps Trump is a scumbag, but you have to admit the MSM and yourself are complicit in the BigLie.

#17 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-21 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Perhaps Trump is a scumbag, but you have to admit the MSM and yourself are complicit in the BigLie.

#17 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Actually, no. I dont have to admit that.

Perhaps you have to admit that Trump, being a hateful scumbag, is not a disqualifier for you to proudly wallow in admiration and defensive fealty to the Criminal Enterprise that is the Trump Crime Family.

#18 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-03-21 11:08 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Perhaps Trump is a scumbag,

#17 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

"Perhaps"?

Don't bother to make up your mind. It would mean you have to do something.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-21 11:10 AM | Reply

You trumpers sound down right conspiratorial. I will let you in on something, everyone in the media is not biased again right wingers, and you are not the true arbiters of truth. If you would open your eyes you might see that the trump administration is not acting in anyway normal. Weather or not what they are doing is illigal I will leave up to the courts, but to be shocked that the requests for information from and administration that acts so completely in deference to the media, and do out of the normal says more about your right wing bias.

#20 | Posted by schmanch at 2019-03-21 11:55 AM | Reply

From a different source on this topic:

Do you remember the endless media stories about the "scandal" surrounding Scott Pruitt and his trip to the G7 in Italy when he was the EPA boss? The Washington Post ran a breathless headline describing how Pruitt and his security detail ran up more than $30,000 in bills for that meeting. In that article, they also had a quote from someone criticizing Pruitt's itinerary, saying that a visit to the Vatican made it look more like a vacation than business travel.

After submitting some requests of my own to the EPA, we learned something remarkable. In 2015, while Barack Obama was in charge, his EPA boss Gina McCarthy had made the exact same trip to the G7 and her detail ran up a bill of $56,192 ... nearly double what Pruitt's team spent. Oh, and they also went to the Vatican and met with precisely the same officials there for the same reasons. The few reports of the trip that showed up in the media only mentioned that McCarthy was there and discussing the important subject of climate change. The cost of the trip never came up.

While we're on the subject, during that same year, McCarthy and her team also racked up bills of $41,320 to travel to Paris, $90,367 (!) going to Dubai and $67,702 to fly to Tokyo. Each and every one of those trips cost a lot more than Pruitt's trip to the G7. During the comparable period in 2018, Pruitt's team made a total of two trips for a vastly lower amount of money. For the record, as you can read in the linked article from last year, McCarthy's predecessor under Obama, Lisa Jackson, also hit the road fairly often. Her journeys included one trip to China that ran up a staggering $155,763 tab.

So where was all the reporting of this during the Obama administration? There wasn't any. And that's because, as this list of FOIA requests shows, the New York Times and the Washington Post never asked. What was described as a huge scandal during the Trump administration was simply not of interest to the MSM back in the good old days.


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It is undeniable, the MSM treated the Obama administration with kid gloves. The reason the MSM has made so many unforced errors when reporting on the Trump administration is because they are rusty. After 8 years of investigative inaction, they've kind of forgotten how to properly do investigative reporting.

#21 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 01:36 PM | Reply

"After 8 years of investigative inaction, they've kind of forgotten how to properly do investigative reporting."

I suppose the proof that they've forgotten is "Media FOIA Requests Up 669% After Trump Election."

#22 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 01:42 PM | Reply

I said do it properly. The reason chants of "Fake News!" have been so effective is because the MSM has totally screwed up so many stories since Trump came into office. It's an understandable result of mostly jettisoning investigative reporting for 8 years.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 01:46 PM | Reply

You trumpers sound down right conspiratorial. I will let you in on something, everyone in the media is not biased again right wingers, and you are not the true arbiters of truth. If you would open your eyes you might see that the trump administration is not acting in anyway normal. Weather or not what they are doing is illigal I will leave up to the courts, but to be shocked that the requests for information from and administration that acts so completely in deference to the media, and do out of the normal says more about your right wing bias.

#20 | POSTED BY SCHMANCH

The complaint isn't that the MSM is aggressively digging into the Trump administration.

The complaint is the MSM didn't aggressively dig into the Obama administration. That's the real travesty.

This thread is proof of the MSM's ho-hum approach to all things Obama.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 01:49 PM | Reply

There wasn't Obama skullduggery to uncover. 0 indictments. 0 charges as a result of multiple Congressional investigations to find something, anything.

#25 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-21 01:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There wasn't Obama skullduggery to uncover.

There was plenty of it. The press couldn't be bothered to look. The one journalist who did look (Sharyl Attkisson) got fired be the brother of a key Obama cabinet member.

#26 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 02:25 PM | Reply

"The reason chants of "Fake News!" have been so effective is because the MSM has totally screwed up so many stories since Trump came into office."

The chants weren't effective prior to Jan 20, 2016?

Trump voters could see into the future?

Are you from Tramfalmadore?

#27 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 02:57 PM | Reply

"The MSM was (and still remains) mostly a propaganda arm of the Obama administration."

You're a propaganda arm of the Trump administration, JeffJ.

Here you are, wilfully parroting Trump propaganda from the Free Beacon.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 03:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Congressional committees were controlled by Republicans Obama's entire 2nd term and had multiple investigations going at once.

There was nothing to find about Obama or they would have, as itchy as they were to impeach him over something, anything. They'd have shouted it from the mountaintops.

#29 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-21 03:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And they spent hundreds of millions trying to find something, anything.

Is your memory that short?

#30 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-21 03:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

AU,

You are moving the goalposts.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 03:28 PM | Reply

Here you are, wilfully parroting Trump propaganda from the Free Beacon.

#28 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Propaganda?

You mean the NYT didn't make 669% more FOIA requests the first 2 years of the Trump administration than the last 4 of the Obama administration?

Please provide proof that this claim is incorrect. I'll patiently wait.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 03:30 PM | Reply

How many FOIAs did the Free Beacon submit, before and after Obama?

A far better question is: How many did Judicial Watch submit, before and after Obama?

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 03:32 PM | Reply

"You mean the NYT didn't make 669% more FOIA requests the first 2 years of the Trump administration than the last 4 of the Obama administration?"

What I mean is, the question you're asking, and the conclusion you've drawn from it? That's the propaganda.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 03:35 PM | Reply

How many FOIAs did the Free Beacon submit, before and after Obama?
A far better question is: How many did Judicial Watch submit, before and after Obama?

#33 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Judicial Watch isn't even a media outlet. Free Beacon is a bit player compared with the likes of NYT and WaPo.

Also:

The Washington Free Beacon is an American conservative political journalism website launched in 2012. Wikipedia

Free Beacon wears their bias openly on their sleeve. WaPo and NYT, along with most network news pretend to be unbiased and objective.

Those goalposts getting heavy?

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 03:37 PM | Reply

What I mean is, the question you're asking, and the conclusion you've drawn from it?

How else do you explain that degree of disparity?

During 2 years of Trump WaPo has 46 FOIA requests. During Obama's second term....1. One. That's it. Over 4 years. One.

The MSM carried Obama's water (and still do). Why you try to deny what is in plain sight is beyond me.

#36 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 03:40 PM | Reply

AU,

You are moving the goalposts.

#31 | Posted by JeffJ

No, I'm not. There were less FOIA requests because there was less skullduggery in the Obama administration.

As I pointed out, multiple Congressional investigations found NOTHING. Nada. Zippo.

-Meanwhile, several Trump administration officials have been convicted and face prison.
-His SIL sought to establish a direct line with the Kremlin in the freakin' Russian embassy to avoid disclosure.
-Trump's campaign manager, who worked for $0, had recriminations against Russia for seizing Crimea removed from the GOP platform.
-His national security advisor palled around with Putin.
-He called for, and was successful, in having his opponents hacked emails released by Russia via WikiLeaks.
-Multiple contacts were made with the Russians by a variety of his administration and campaign officials.

Republicans, so eager to impeach Obama over something turned a blind eye.

Take off your partisan blinders. Obama's doings were nothingburgers. Trump and his people have committed so many seedy actions it's no wonder the press have been filing FOIA requests like gangbusters.

#37 | Posted by americanunity at 2019-03-21 03:46 PM | Reply

No, I'm not. There were less FOIA requests because there was less skullduggery in the Obama administration.

FOIA requests are requests for information. They don't know there is no skullduggery in less they first look, which they didn't.

Also, congress absolutely sucks at conducting investigations. It doesn't matter which party is in charge. There was all sorts of skullduggery going on with Obama's EPA.

This analysis is of FOIA requests sent to the EPA:

The number of Freedom of Information Act requests the Environmental Protection Agency received from mainstream outlets such as the New York Times and Washington Post spiked immediately after Republican President Donald Trump took office, according to a Free Beacon analysis of FOIA requests by the media from 2013 to the present.

#38 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 03:56 PM | Reply

During 2 years of Trump WaPo has 46 FOIA requests. During Obama's second term....1. One. That's it. Over 4 years. One.

The MSM carried Obama's water (and still do). Why you try to deny what is in plain sight is beyond me.

#36 | Posted by JeffJ

A lot seem to be beyond you :-)

No, they didn't "carry Obama's water." The press didn't have to file FOIA requests because Republicans would have gleefully released anything negative against Obama, but they couldn't and didn't because there was no 'there' there.

The same Congressional Republicans have stonewalled the public and sat by, silently, as Trump and his band of criminals committed one act after another against the interests of America. Thus, the press has to step in and try to uncover what Republicans and the Trump administration have been so adamant about keeping secret.

#39 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-21 03:56 PM | Reply

Dems have a far more effective weapon in Mueller than any congressional investigation, yet the FOIA requests spiked to an absolutely insane level relative to Obama's second term.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 03:59 PM | Reply

And Congressional Republicans went overboard in 'oversight' during Obama's administration.

They must have drowned, because they completely abandoned oversight responsibilities once they had unified control of government.

Hell, most Congressional Republicans won't criticize Trump over anything. Scared little snowflakes that they are.

#41 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-21 03:59 PM | Reply

Dems have a far more effective weapon in Mueller than any congressional investigation, yet the FOIA requests spiked to an absolutely insane level relative to Obama's second term.

#40 | Posted by JeffJ

Mueller's investigation is limited to Russian collusion.

Isn't that bucket of water you're carrying for Trump against the press getting heavy by now, Jeff?

#42 | Posted by AMERICANUNITY at 2019-03-21 04:03 PM | Reply

Carrying water for Trump?

First post on this thread:

I can't think of a clearer case of liberal media bias than this.

I'm glad these outlets are aggressively acting as a watchdog for this administration.

What's unfortunate is these very same outlets were a borderline propaganda-outlets for the Obama administration.

#1 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-03-20 02:48 PM


The MSM treated Obama with kid gloves. That's pretty much undeniable.

#43 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 05:13 PM | Reply

Mueller's investigation is limited to Russian collusion.

Yet all of his indictments thus far have had nothing to do with collusion. Russian collusion was his stated mandate - he's clearly been operating well outside that mandate. Rosentstein has given him a VERY wide berth.

#44 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 05:15 PM | Reply

If this trend continues into the next administration, it could be counted as 1 good thing Trumps administration facilitated long term...

#45 | Posted by Ottodog at 2019-03-21 05:28 PM | Reply

Some facts

Mueller's investigation is not about collusion, necessarily. Mueller's investigation is into the interference by Russia in our 2016 election. This was an attack by Russia on our country.

Collusion, in and of itself, is not a crime. It is the acts that are performed to collude, which are or may be the crime.

When Mueller looked into the various players involved with the interference with the 2016 election, he encountered numerous and serious crimes. Many of which indicate a criminal relationship between the Trump campaign and Russian entities.

It is, without question or debate, within Mueller's mandate to investigate crimes that are unearthed during his investigation of the 2016 election interference (or to pass that information to the appropriate authorities i.e. the SDNY). That is the job of the DoJ. To say otherwise is to carry Trump's water.

WRT this article, I for one doubt the numbers presented, they seem cherry picked at best and are limited to one agency. How many OPRA requests were submitted related to Benghazi or Fast and Furious or Tansuitgate?

#46 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-21 05:52 PM | Reply

How many OPRA requests were submitted related to Benghazi or Fast and Furious or Tansuitgate?

#46 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

That's an excellent question. I'd like to know the answer to that as well.

#47 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 05:56 PM | Reply

"Judicial Watch isn't even a media outlet."

I brought it up because of four little letters:

"Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group[1] and self-styled watchdog group[2][3] that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate claimed misconduct by government officials."

#48 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 06:02 PM | Reply

"The MSM treated Obama with kid gloves. That's pretty much undeniable."

People who use the term "MSM" are so itretrievably biased, it's not possible to have an evidence-based conversation with them. That's pretty much undeniable.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 06:05 PM | Reply

"Yet all of his indictments thus far have had nothing to do with collusion."

Collusion isn't a crime, so what would the indictments have to do with something that isn't a crime?

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 06:06 PM | Reply

People who use the term "MSM" are so itretrievably biased, it's not possible to have an evidence-based conversation with them. That's pretty much undeniable.

#49 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

MSM is a commonly used term on both the left and the right. You took about evidence-based conversation and then completely ignore and deflect from the evidence that is presented to you on a platter.

#51 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-21 06:18 PM | Reply

"MSM is a commonly used term on both the left and the right."

Then News Corp. needs to be included in this fake news analysis from Free Beacon.

You're taking MSM to mean "Not Alt-Right."

"evidence that is presented to you on a platter"

Is cherry picked to Not Alt-Right, and further limited to just FOIA requests to EPA.

And then you deceptively omitted EPA from your headline.

Finally, the article itself ends with a very compelling explanation for the increase in FOIA requests to the EPA: "Trump's first appointed EPA administrator Scott Pruitt resigned last summer after a series of revelations regarding his misuse of agency funds."

#52 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-21 06:34 PM | Reply

The administration is hiding their emails. Find them. Most communications are being done through encrypted apps. We will never know what they really said.

The FOIA requests should be 100,000 times higher.

#53 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-22 12:03 AM | Reply

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