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Saturday, March 16, 2019

David Atkins: I have read (or at least skimmed) the manifesto of the white supremacist terrorist who murdered dozens of Muslims peacefully assembled in prayer at mosques yesterday in New Zealand. But you don't have to, because there's nothing in that document that isn't already mainstreamed in the discourse of Breitbart, alt-right Trump supporters, QAnon conspiracy forums, the broader right-wing memeverse, and Fox News anchors like Tucker Carlson.

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Fox News and Donald Trump now consistently blare the bullhorn of "invasions" from Mexico and elsewhere, directly echoing the shooter's manifesto. When neo-nazis chant "You Will Not Replace Us," Trump says that "many of them are good people." Operatives like Stephen Miller figure out how to disincenvitize non-whites from seeking citizenship. Advisors like Steve Bannon respond to the presence of Asian corporate executives by saying that "When two-thirds or three-quarters of the C.E.O.s in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . a country is more than an economy. We're a civic society." The Commerce Secretary adds questions about citizenship so that immigrants will be afraid to take the census. Non-white immigrants who make the grave mistake of casting a ballot get years in prison while Republican politicians who actively steal elections don't get so much as an indictment. Fox News host Tucker Carlson explicitly claims that Democrats want to replace white people.

When these legal channels of soft ethnic cleansing don't do the trick, the rhetoric of violence begins to creep in. The President threatens that his military and police supporters will get tough and ugly if he doesn't get his way. Republican candidates threaten "Second Amendment remedies." Republican candidates pose with assault rifles and brag that they'll (illegally and violently) personally deport immigrants in their own trucks.

It's no wonder that incidents of right-wing eliminationist violence are skyrocketing. They're simply acting on the same logic and implied rhetoric of the conservative parties they have come to dominate.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-03-16 11:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"(Syrian refugees are) trying to take over our children and convince them how wonderful ISIS is, and how wonderful Islam is." - Trump 6.13.2016

"We have to be very strong in terms of looking at the mosques, you know which a lot of people say, ‘Oh, we don't want to do that. We don't want to do that.' We're beyond that." Trump, 6.13.2016

"(Muslims) have to respect us. They do not respect us at all. And frankly, they don't respect a lot of the things that are happening throughout not only our country, but they don't respect other things." - Trump, 3.23.2016

Anderson Cooper: "Is it really a Muslim problem or is it a radical Islamist problem?"
Trump: "Maybe it's a Muslim problem, maybe it's not."
2.4.16

"I think Islam hates us. There's something there that  --  there's a tremendous hatred there. There's a tremendous hatred. We have to get to the bottom of it. There's an unbelievable hatred of us." -Trump, 3.9.2016

"We're having problems with the Muslims, and we're having problems with Muslims coming into the country ... You need surveillance. You have to deal with the mosques, whether you like it or not. These attacks are not done by Swedish people." - Trump 3.22.2016

"There were people that were cheering on the other side of NJ where you have large Arab populations...I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down ...It was well covered at the time."-DT 11.22.2015

"I mean, I don't notice Swedish people knocking down the World Trade Center. There is a Muslim problem in the world, and you know it and I know it."
- Donald Trump, 3.30.2011

"Well somebody knocked down the World Trade Center ... somebody's blowing us up. Somebody's blowing up buildings, and somebody's doing lots of bad stuff." -9.4.2010

#2 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-16 11:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Really quite remarkable. We've now seen the first portion of the President's comments. He gave a generic condemnation of the massacre in Christchurch, New Zealand and then proceeded to give a meandering speech about foreign "invasion", i.e., immigrants "rushing our border", calling them "murderers and killers". In other words, moments after denouncing the massacre he went on with a lie-laden screed much of which was indistinguishable from the attacker's manifesto.

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-03-16 11:40 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hey, be thankful he didn't say there were very fine people on both sides.

He really is a gigantic ignoramus.

He knows he can't piss of the nazi proud boof crowd that is hell bent on starting a race war in the US, they are basically the only ones left in good numbers that support him. Therefore his milquetoast statements on NZ. He is either afraid of losing the proud boofs or really does hate muslims in what passes for his heart. Either way he is not fit to be the President of the United States.

#4 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-16 02:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Right wing conservatives, whether Christian, Muslim, Jew, Hindu etc... are the most dangerous people on the planet and are responsible for all strife and misery throughout human existence.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-16 03:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

FLAGGED FUNNY BY NULLIFIDIAN

Typical Nulli. All troll. No facts.

Your transformation from liberal to evangelical Trumpublican is nearly complete.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-16 04:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The Right Has Mainstreamed the Rhetoric of Mass Killers" So has the left. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" ring any bells?

#7 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-03-16 05:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#7 LOL.
So if you believe "All men are created equal" it means you support slavery, since slaveowners wrote the Declaration of Independence.

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-16 05:31 PM | Reply

"The Right Has Mainstreamed the Rhetoric of Mass Killers" So has the left. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" ring any bells?
#7 | Posted by visitor_

You mean Christians?

Acts 4:32–35: 32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. 33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. 34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, 35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-16 06:03 PM | Reply

Marx, turns out he was a plagiarist and mass murderer.

#10 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-03-16 06:26 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#7 Jesus H righties are low bandwidth morons.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-16 07:06 PM | Reply

Right-wingers have become a modern-day Know-Nothing Party.
For example, RightOCenter routinely argues neo-Nazis and white nationalists aren't even that big of a threat.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-16 07:10 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

The Right Has Mainstreamed the Rhetoric of Mass Killers

I think Islam did that a long time ago.

#13 | Posted by boaz at 2019-03-16 08:21 PM | Reply

LOL, "Tu Quoque" Boaz comparing the mass killers of a civilization at the low-point of their history to to the mass killers of a civilization supposedly at the peak of theirs.

Again, the killer white guy with many guns had EVERYTHING-- the brown refugee people without weapons that he murdered had NOTHING. Yet he wants the world to believe that he and many others of his ilk are being oppressed and that is why he did what he did.

#14 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-03-16 08:53 PM | Reply

RightOCenter routinely argues neo-Nazis and white nationalists aren't even that as big of a threat as we make them out to be.

Suggested edits for accuracy.

#15 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-16 09:07 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

As a former gang prosecutor here in LA, the myopic view of mass shootings by the Left underscores the political football that this has become: There have been 77 mass shooting deaths in the US in 2019, which is 2.8 days of gang related gun deaths in the US (27 per day in 2018), yet no one on the DR (other than me constantly pointing this simple fact out) ever complains about it.

Who has "mainstreamed" the rhetoric that leads to those 27 gun related deaths per day?

Hint: it certainly isn't the "Right."

#16 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-16 09:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Hint: it certainly isn't the "Right.""

Correct. They are too busy mainstreaming the demonizing of Muslims.

#17 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-03-16 10:02 PM | Reply

#16 | Posted by Rightocenter

I hope I am not understanding your point. It sounds like you are saying left leaning "mainstream" media give quarter to rhetoric encouraging gang violence.

#18 | Posted by horstngraben at 2019-03-16 10:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There have been 77 mass shooting deaths in the US in 2019, which is 2.8 days of gang related gun deaths in the US (27 per day in 2018), yet no one on the DR (other than me constantly pointing this simple fact out) ever complains about it.

#16 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-03-16 09:41 PM | FLAG: EYE ROLL

Gotta love this right wingnut whataboutism... if its a gang... they must line up on the left... or at the very least... the left must claim ownership... anything to avoid the discussion at hand... pfffffttt.

Gimmie a break... what is the number of shootings done by a racist gang freaking out over emigration?

Uh huh... anything to drift off topic... gang violence is not necessarily politically motivated... its usually more of an underground economy thing... a separatist movement so to speak... except maybe the Russian gangs who can be counted among the shootings you mention... and who do have a political presence in Russia... and the US... and possibly the current orange bloat bag occupying the white house... who knows maybe even engage in social media exchanges designed to inspire crazies.

Try to stay focused... we are not talking about gangs here... that is a whole other topic where your bottomless pit of stupid you are also swimming past the obvious... we are talking about the rhetoric inspiring white homicidal rage hissy fits... where crazies kill those that don't belong to their group.

#19 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-17 08:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--Gotta love this right wingnut whataboutism... if its a gang... they must line up on the left...

Probably. Mexican drug gangs love swiss-cheese borders and hate ICE and the CBP--just like Democrats.

And Democrats are eager to give felons voting rights and reduce incarceration.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-17 09:00 AM | Reply

There have been 77 mass shooting deaths in the US in 2019, which is 2.8 days of gang related gun deaths in the US (27 per day in 2018), yet no one on the DR (other than me constantly pointing this simple fact out) ever complains about it.

Sounds like an additional argument for gun control.

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-17 09:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And Democrats are eager to give felons voting rights and reduce incarceration.

#20 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2019-03-17 09:00 AM | FLAG | TOO GENERAL

I have a few specific questions about that.

Specifically which of the incarcerated felons are the left talking about releasing?

If someone has paid for their crime as outlined by law... why not be fully integrated back into society?

What would Jayzus do? ... that one is rhetorical.

I am going to guess that you don't really care about specifics... because if you do... it takes the scare out of your ghost story... and that's no fun for you.

#22 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-17 09:26 AM | Reply

#22 Nulli only speaks bumper sticker now.

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-17 09:33 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

The real irony of all this diversion off topic is... gangs and association with the left is that ... by in large gangs are not liberal in nature... not even slightly... they are run like military organizations with strict adherence, ranks and non inclusive stances... or as I like to say... mostly running antithetical to the general goals of personal liberty. They tend to tribe up along very specific lines... usually racial...althoooooooo... they might call it "cultural".

The only thing that gangs and liberals have in common is they are just another thing that frightens conservatrons... but thennnnnnn.... everything frightens conservatrons.

#24 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-17 09:47 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Does anyone seriously think George Will fits this generalization?

Its not the right, per se, its TRUMP!

#25 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-03-17 11:05 AM | Reply

#24

White Supremacist Terror and Islamist Terror Are Conservative Cousins

#26 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-03-17 11:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#18

My point is not that the Left mainstreams "rhetoric" that fuels gang violence but that it is a far larger problem (in response to Snoofy's dubious shout out in #12) than the bogey man of the alt-right that the Usual Idiots of the DR Left are constantly circle flapping about.

#21

That is one of the best arguments for gun control, but that argument is never raised by the DR Left.

#27 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-17 12:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I have an idea let's take the Islamic terrorists and the alt-right/white domestic terrorists, find a remote deserted island, drop one group with their weapons, and a weeks worth of food on one end, take the other group drop them off on the opposite end with the same stuff, and let them battle it out. Of course no boats are allowed after the drop off and let nature take its course. Any survivors stay there.

No additional snack drop offs either.

#28 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-03-17 10:30 PM | Reply

#28 | Posted by aborted_monson So you want to put people in confinement for political views or heritage? Nothing new, the Left has done this before.

#29 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-03-18 11:27 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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