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Friday, March 15, 2019

The Kentucky Department of Education wants the names of every teacher who has called in sick, forcing hundreds of schools to close across the state. Kentucky's largest school district closed Thursday for the sixth time in two weeks as teachers continued to protest at the state Capitol. The department sent a letter to 10 school districts on Thursday asking them for teachers' names and any affidavits or doctor's notes.

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Yeah, you know when I think of socialism Kentucky comes right to mind

#1 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-15 03:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

The state is taking a very Fascist attitude to peaceful protest.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-15 07:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

The state is taking a very Fascist attitude to peaceful protest.

#2 | POSTED BY DANNI

Protest on their own time. They are being paid to do a job. They shouldn't be skipping work to protest.

#3 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-15 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Protest on their own time. They are being paid to do a job. They shouldn't be skipping work to protest.

#3 | POSTED BY JEFFJ AT 2019-03-15 09:45 AM | REPLY

If they have pto they can use it.

#4 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-03-15 10:08 AM | Reply

If they have pto they can use it.

#4 | POSTED BY HATTER5183

Typically, PTO has to be approved.

#5 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-15 10:10 AM | Reply

Jeff, are you stating that the right to assembly, and the right to petition our Government are subservient to the convenience of the government?

#6 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-03-15 10:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

OWS,

I'm saying protest on your own time. If you take time off from work to protest, get it approved. It's how things work in the private sector. The public sector shouldn't be any different in this regard.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-15 10:28 AM | Reply

Where I work if you have pto you can call in and say I'm taking a personal day. You don't even need to say why. Our management likes happy employees.

#8 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-03-15 10:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Jeff, are you stating that the right to assembly, and the right to petition our Government are subservient to the convenience of the government?"

Exactly. Meaningful protest has to disrupt the normal operation of whatever business or governmental operation it is designed to affect or else it is just ignored.

#9 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-15 10:35 AM | Reply

Yeah, you know when I think of socialism Kentucky comes right to mind
#1 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM

Those are government employees, the state owns the labor, by the very definition, its socialism ...

#3 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

In a free country, I see nothing wrong with Teachers protesting through a sick-in, only if it is a long term detriment to them doing their job, should they be fired. Just call up the scabs, I mean subs.

But this is a classic example of how socialism works, what are you going to do, sue?

Ignore it at your peril.

#10 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-15 11:06 AM | Reply

"But this is a classic example of how socialism works, what are you going to do, sue? "

The teachers own their own labor, the offer services to the state for fair compensation which they don't think they are receiving. The state does not own their labor, they aren't slaves.

#11 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-15 11:11 AM | Reply

" It's how things work in the private sector."

You are full of crap. When strikes are called no one calls in and asks for permission to strike that is simply ridiculous.

#12 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-15 11:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah, you know when I think of socialism Kentucky comes right to mind
#1 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM

Just an observation, need to look for data, but the poorer the state, the greater the percentage work for the government.

So yeah Kentucky probably has more socialist workers than California, per capita, probably also why they are against socialism.

#13 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-15 11:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The teachers own their own labor, the offer services to the state for fair compensation which they don't think they are receiving.

No they don't they can't sell their labor to anyone else but the State, the state has monopoly power over elementary school teachers.

If schools were privatized a teacher could leave a crappy school administration, and join a better school.

#14 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-15 11:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Keep in mind that teachers in Kentucky (and many other states) do not qualify for Social Security. That plus the fact that their pay is low in proportion to their education and their value to our society makes a reliable pension critical to their financial stability.

Bevin is trying to gradually eliminate public education and have everyone send their kids to Christian schools. Privatization is not really the response to problems in public education; it's an intentional end-run around it.

#15 | Posted by cbob at 2019-03-15 11:35 AM | Reply

"If schools were privatized a teacher could leave a crappy school administration, and join a better school."

A teacher currently has every right to leave a crappy school administration, and join a better school. What bizarro world do you occupy?

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-15 11:41 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Those are government employees, the state owns the labor..."

Are you hammered?

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-15 11:42 AM | Reply

God the right is so twisted right now.

They'll make a list of teachers who dare protest to prevent further degradation of schools and education because that's bad.

But they'll concern themselves with the first amendment rights of Nazis because that's good.

#18 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-15 11:48 AM | Reply

Danni

This is individual teachers protesting. This isn't a labor strike. Labor strikes normally take place when contracts are set to expire and the union doesn't agree to the new contract.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-15 11:59 AM | Reply

protest on your own time.

Sick time is their time. They've earned it. Instead of seeking to punish them for not actually being sick, perhaps Kentucky should take a long honest look at why so many of its teachers are compelled to do this.

#20 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-15 12:05 PM | Reply

They shouldn't be skipping work to protest.

#3 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Jeff could be saying this from his child labor camp if it weren't for people skipping work to protest.

#21 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-15 12:27 PM | Reply

It's how things work in the private sector.

Right as rain every opening day of bow season one employee is "sick" without getting it approved.

That's how it works in the private sector. The only difference is that we are not little bitches about workers using their PTO like KY is.

#22 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-15 01:05 PM | Reply

why so many of its teachers are compelled to do this.

The wing dings know why they are protesting. They just don't give a ufck until they get calls from their constituents complaining about how they had to scramble to pay for daycare.

When you ufck with peoples wages and pensions they tend to get upset.

#23 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-15 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Jobs only exist to provide people with a way to lead a happy life. If the job can't do that, then the job needs to end, not the people.

Watch and learn. This is what a GOP admin does. It takes things that should be wholesome and turns them into awful.

#24 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-15 02:21 PM | Reply

"Where I work if you have pto you can call in and say I'm taking a personal day. You don't even need to say why.
#8 | POSTED BY HATTER5183"

That's not how it works at my job. ----! Gotta run! The fry machine is beeping.

JeffJ

#25 | Posted by mOntecOre at 2019-03-15 02:27 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

That's right, Greatness means no complaints so quit complaining!

#26 | Posted by LesWit at 2019-03-15 04:41 PM | Reply

the article doesn't give many details of the protest. I guess Tax credits for those in private schools and change management of the pension funds?

I struggle with tax credit issue; I assume since parents aren't using the public schools they want a tax credit. I get that argument, BUT, if that were the case my kids are grown and gone, I don't have any kids in school so I should also get a tax credit.

#27 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-03-15 06:35 PM | Reply

#6 of course he is.

#28 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-16 08:41 PM | Reply

#7 private sector....

#29 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-16 08:43 PM | Reply

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