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U.S. President Donald Trump has warned his political opponents of the possibility that they could eventually be confronted by armed Trump supporters in and out of uniform, telling a right-wing website on Monday that "it would be very bad, very bad" if his backers in the military, police and a motorcycle group were provoked into getting "tough."

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Combined with Pres Trump's ongoing comments about election fraud, I cannot help but wonder if he is setting up his "tough" supporters for some sort of action should he lose in 2020.

I notice that he did not tell his "very tough" supporters not to do anything violent...

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-03-14 01:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

My god.

#2 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-03-14 01:21 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump -- I have the tough people, but they don't play it tough -- until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad," Trump said."

No Constitutional Crises Here

----- Jeffyj

#3 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-14 01:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

This is how mafia don's talk.

This is not normal.

Thanks MAGAts. You infested our government with this filth.

#4 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-14 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

Fat Nixon knows that he has to stay in office until the statute of limitations runs out on his financial crimes in NY.

A cornered rat is the most dangerous.

#5 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-14 01:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Cops already hate this criminal, military doesn't like the sack o crap who refused to pay the coast guard, and bikers for Trump fell appart.

#6 | Posted by Tor at 2019-03-14 01:25 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Let's not forget alleged pipe-bomber Cesar Sayoc and his bumper sticker festooned van who was arrested less than a month before last Fall's midterm elections:

www.nbcnews.com

Or other incidents that appears to have been some wacko targeting individuals or groups which have been vilified by the Right, including Trump:

nymag.com

OCU

#7 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-03-14 01:36 PM | Reply

someone tweeted

"Imagine a 2011 Obama interview in which he mused about the New Black Panthers supporting him in case things "got to a certain point.""

Imagine?

OBAMA didn't even do 99% of the things the "right" imagined and they were hysterically apocalyptic

I suspect the usual's will avoid this at all costs because you know, all they want is a (dis)honest discussion

#8 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-14 01:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2


'U.S. President Donald Trump has issued what seems to be a warning of armed pushback against his political opponents, telling a right-wing website on Monday that "it would be very bad, very bad" if his supporters in the military, police and a motorcycle group were provoked into getting "tough."'

Sometimes I hate being right.

#9 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-14 02:03 PM | Reply

A cornered rat is the most dangerous.

#5 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-14 01:24 PM

That he would be cornered was predicted by some from the very first week he was elected. Yes, Donald Trump is dangerous. When someone tells you who they are, believe them.

#10 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-14 02:05 PM | Reply

I've seen two maga hats this week at two different grocery stores.
65-70 year old white guys.
They looked tough, for their age...

#11 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-03-14 02:20 PM | Reply

Thanks again, Trumpvoters©. YOU BUILT THIS.

#12 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-03-14 03:44 PM | Reply

This is the leader of the Republican party. This is the "cream of the crop" of the 2016 presidential field. This is who the Republican party has become.

Republicans, you built that.

#13 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-03-14 03:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


@#12 ... hanks again, Trumpvoters©. YOU BUILT THIS. ...

At this point, I can only wonder if Pres Trump's base even sees anything wrong with his comments.

#14 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-03-14 03:56 PM | Reply

Has the bloated child rapist offered to pay the legal bills of the ‘tough' MAGAts yet?

#15 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-03-14 04:00 PM | Reply

Cops already hate this criminal, military doesn't like the sack o crap who refused to pay the coast guard, and bikers for Trump fell appart.

#6 | Posted by Tor

I think you're still viewing Trump through some lens of normalcy. As such, his goal isn't getting enough support to violently oppose an election's results.

His aim is to get enough of his supporters to react violently as an excuse to not transfer power. These yokels, like every thing else, are just expendable pawns being manipulated for Trump's, and only Trump's, benefit.

And those who aren't goaded into violent action are still dumb and gullible enough to ignore the fact that it's Trump supporters acting violently at his behest and will go along with the "emergency" declaration Trump uses to justify postponing power transfer.

#16 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-14 04:01 PM | Reply

His aim is to get enough of his supporters to react violently as an excuse to not transfer power. These yokels, like every thing else, are just expendable pawns being manipulated for Trump's, and only Trump's, benefit...

#16 | POSTED BY JPW

We have a higher likelihood of violence if he wins than if he loses.

From another thread:

if the opposing party wins the 2020 election, 18 percent of Democrats and 13 percent of Republicans "feel violence would be justified."

#17 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 04:04 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

At least he said, "provoked".

Nevertheless, this was a terribly reckless thing to say. He is such a POS.

#18 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 04:09 PM | Reply

Whatabout j deflecticon shows up right on time

#19 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-14 04:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The thing that they're attracted to is number one ... it's hatred for the Left."
– Joey Gibson, Reveal

#20 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-14 04:12 PM | Reply

"Obama, he's a piece of ----. I told him to suck on my machine gun"

#21 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-14 04:15 PM | Reply

Matt Rinaldi, Texas Republican, "threatens to shoot Democrats" over immigration protest

#22 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-14 04:15 PM | Reply

We have a higher likelihood of violence if he wins than if he loses.

I doubt it.

In any case, my point was that Trump is encouraging this because he thinks he has enough crazy and heavily armed supporters to win something.

He knows he has enough crazy and heavily armed supporters to create an "emergency".

#23 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-14 04:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

remember when we couldn't go a week without some ------ claiming, "OBAMA is going to get someone killed".

they must have gone to the same rabbit hole as all the DR pocket "constitutionalists"

#24 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-14 04:19 PM | Reply

Trump should be forced to assure the nation that he would do everything in his power to insure a smooth, peaceful transition regardless of who wins the election. If he refuses then Republicans would have a duty to support impeachment immediately.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-14 04:22 PM | Reply

And trump will be hiding his bone spurs in a dress

#26 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-14 04:22 PM | Reply

"We have a higher likelihood of violence if he wins than if he loses."

Reminds me of the time this asshat swore OBAMA was going to grant citizenship to all illegals before leaving office.

#27 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-14 04:23 PM | Reply

Trump should be forced to assure the nation that he would do everything in his power to insure a smooth, peaceful transition regardless of who wins the election.

How exactly does one go about doing that?

#28 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-14 04:27 PM | Reply


@#17 ...if the opposing party wins the 2020 election, ...

Not knowing anything about the source of those numbers other than what I see in #17, I have to ask anyway...

Do those numbers take into account the President of the United States encouraging such an action among his supporters?

Somehow I suspect the numbers provided did not take into account such an egregiously dangerous statement from a sitting president.

#29 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-03-14 04:27 PM | Reply

"His aim is to get enough of his supporters to react violently as an excuse to not transfer power."

Stochastic Terrorism.

#30 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-03-14 04:30 PM | Reply

Stochastic Terrorism.

#30 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine

A POTUS narcissistic and sociopathic enough to absolutely sacrifice his supporters for his gain.

He's already screwed over his supporters economically. With his back against the wall he'd gladly sacrifice a few more to "water the tree of liberty".

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-14 04:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"if the opposing party wins the 2020 election, 18 percent of Democrats and 13 percent of Republicans "feel violence would be justified."

jeffyj posts a snip from Breitbart News

the "study" he references has disappeared.

big surprise there

jeffyj without a hint of irony, would say Diamond and Silk are experts if it served the narrative of the day

#32 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-14 04:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

His aim is to get enough of his supporters to react violently as an excuse to not transfer power.

The president does not transfer power: a new president gets sworn in by the chief justice of the supreme court. There is a ceremony associated with the swearing but it doesn't have to be. If you remember, in 2008, Obama had to be sworn in twice because the SCOTUS chief justice Roberts flubbed the lines. The 2008 2nd swearing in was substantially low key.

So, unless Trump is going to kidnap and hold hostage the chief justice, transfer of power will take place.

#33 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-03-14 04:59 PM | Reply

65-70 year old white guys.
They looked tough, for their age...

#11 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

that's just the way they walk because their prostate is inflamed.

can you imagine a bunch of fat diabetic trump-a-likes going on a tear?

Denny's buffet today, tomorrow, the world.

#34 | Posted by kudzu at 2019-03-14 05:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

So, unless Trump is going to kidnap and hold hostage the chief justice, transfer of power will take place.

#33 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-03-14 04:59 PM | Reply

This is not where the crisis would come. Trump just has to declare the election rigged against him, stay put and dare someone to make him move.

Yeah, we'll get him out all right. With huge damage to the country even if no one actually does get killed.

#35 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-14 05:08 PM | Reply

if the opposing party wins the 2020 election, 18 percent of Democrats and 13 percent of Republicans "feel violence would be justified."
#17 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

This is called projection. It's a psychological disorder where you blame others for what you're guilty of.

Trump suggests violence. Jeff posts a random poll claiming democrats are the violent ones.

Thing is, Jeff should know better than that.

But, most the people Trump is addressing don't.

People, like Boaz, who would gladly join a civil war should Trump lose in 2020.

#36 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-14 05:23 PM | Reply

I'd be glad to see all the redneck Trumpers try to take on our military if he loses in 2020. There isn't enough popcorn in the world for that.

#37 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-14 05:29 PM | Reply

The clowns do love them a ghost story... the scarier the better... I am not afraid of a Trumplethinskin groupie or there stupid ghost stories.

I grew up with two older brothers... occasionally they were stupid enough to try and beat up on me... I learned to make sure that if they "won" it was never for free... I made sure coming after me wasn't worth it... ever... and they stopped.

It won't be worth it to them... they are afraid of dying... I'm not... never have been... have the scars to prove it... if my parents weren't such under achievers I'd have been a psychopath.

#38 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-14 05:42 PM | Reply

Clown,

Jeff posts a random poll claiming democrats are the violent ones.

It's not some random poll.

The mass partisanship paper was written by Nathan P. Kalmoe and Lilliana Mason, political scientists at Louisiana State University and the University of Maryland.

www.nytimes.com

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 05:51 PM | Reply

Trump Warns That Some of His Supporters May Get 'Tough'

Now you know why MAGA hat wears get the bad rap they do.

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-14 06:04 PM | Reply

www.nytimes.com

#39 | Posted by JeffJ

Just because both sides call the other side dangerous doesn't mean both sides are wrong.

One of them is correct.

But thanks for providing our daily dose of false equivalency.

#41 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-14 06:14 PM | Reply

Now you know why MAGA hat wears get the bad rap they do.

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

They got that rap because that hat means "I can't recognize the worlds most obvious con man"

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-14 06:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's not some random poll.

At the end of the day, the authors of that paper did a poll of 1,000 people which is where your data comes from.

#43 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-14 06:29 PM | Reply

#42 According to that poll a higher percentage of Democrats feel violence would be justified if Republicans win the next election. Both numbers are pretty alarming though, when you really think about it.

#44 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 06:41 PM | Reply

#42 According to that poll a higher percentage of Democrats feel violence would be justified if Republicans win the next election. Both numbers are pretty alarming though, when you really think about it.

#44 | Posted by JeffJ

Yeah violence against nazis is not equivalent to violence against minorities and treehuggers.
We should all have the courage to fight fascists if we need to.

As always your false equivalencies rely on ignoring a lot of real world considerations.

#45 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-14 06:58 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#44 ... According to that poll a higher percentage of Democrats feel violence would be justified if Republicans win the next election. ...

Considering the manner in which the Republican Party has been acting these past few years, are you surprised?

btw, I just spent some time reading through that 41-page research paper. To me it looks as if the numbers in #7 are more a cherry-picked factoid than representative of the findings of the research.

#46 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-03-14 07:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

According to that poll a higher percentage of Democrats feel violence would be justified if Republicans win the next election.

I clicked through to the actual survey, and it turns out a higher percentage of Republicans feel violence would be justified against Democrats today (as opposed to based on who wins the next election; a higher percentage of Republicans think Democrats should die of cancer; and a higher percentage of Republicans think it is appropriate to make threats to public officials.
www.dannyhayes.org

You can get off your cherry picked high horse now.

#47 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-14 07:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3


@#47 ....I clicked through to the actual survey, and it turns out ...

The results were a bit interesting, eh?

#48 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-03-14 07:31 PM | Reply

According to that poll a higher percentage of Democrats feel violence would be justified if Republicans win the next election.
#44 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

According to reality, Trump is advocating violence should he lose in 2020.

The president of the United States has announced there will be violence should he lose in 2020.

Now. I give you credit for posting in this thread. The rest of the conservatives on the DR are ignoring this.

But no poll of what may happen based on selective results compares to an actual call for violence.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-14 07:50 PM | Reply

Now you know why MAGA hat wears get the bad rap they do.

#40 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday

Shhhh!

Now don't be rapping on the MAGAt hats sis!

It's a good thing. Remember the British dummies who red? Should they go rabid it makes for easy targeting.

Semper Fidelis

#50 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-14 09:35 PM | Reply

Who wore red...

#51 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-14 09:35 PM | Reply

#45

People who engage in political violence are typically looking for people who won't fight back. If it's RW goons they are going to seek out tree huggers and baristas. If it's LW goons they are going after the elderly and young teens wearing MAGA hats.

#52 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 09:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump just has to declare the election rigged against him, stay put and dare someone to make him move.

Like a light bulb going from off to on, as soon as the new POTUS is sworn in, the allegiance of the Secret Service flips and they will haul Trump's ass out of the white house in a heart beat.

#53 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-03-14 10:00 PM | Reply

And Trump will demand that his minions take up arms to overcome what he'll be describing as a coup.

OCU

#54 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-03-14 10:30 PM | Reply

And Trump will demand that his minions take up arms to overcome what he'll be describing as a coup.

OCU

That would require them to drag their lazy obese asses out of the cozy confines of their peanut butter fort in their mother's basement. They fear sunlight as it's the best disenfecent.

#55 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-03-15 04:41 AM | Reply

I have the misfortune of recovering from severe injuries to my legs in the only GOP/MAGA county in Western NY state. Imagine one whole town filled with nothing but Jerry Springer losers; all the men sport crew cuts & most of the women are the most malnourished, no ass, flat chested, and ugly as a donkey' s ------- you've ever seen. They're racist to the nines and PROUD of it. And they luuuves me sum Daddy Trump. I've never seen such a cavalcade of willfully ignorant people in all my life.

And they're constantly talking about getting ready for "war to show those -------- a thing or two." Of course, I wouldn't worry about it; most of them are as fat af and can't run from one rock to another w/o busting a gasket in their brain.

#56 | Posted by MisterCarajo at 2019-03-15 06:49 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

"Imagine a 2011 Obama interview in which he mused about the New Black Panthers supporting him in case things "got to a certain point.""

After the meltdown the right had over Tansuitgate?

#57 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-15 09:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 5

Trump deserves credit for one thing: his ability to keep his base in a constant state of agitated paranoia. That's why his mostly white, authoritarian-loving followers are so intensely committed to him. They see him as the only guy telling the "truth" in a world in which a coalition of lessers is working to dismantle their primacy.

#58 | Posted by cbob at 2019-03-15 10:33 AM | Reply

Don't forget, in the New Civil War(R), all the urban ---------ers will be in our side.

#59 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-03-15 10:48 AM | Reply

#56 | Posted by MisterCarajo

FF

Whereabouts? I grew up in WNY.

#60 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-15 11:18 AM | Reply

a motorcycle group were provoked into getting "tough."

Russian bikers for Trump:

Russian official linked to South Florida biker club spent millions on Trump condos

[T]he tale of Igor Zorin offers a 21st-century twist with all the weirdness modern Miami has to offer: Russian cash, a motorcycle club named after Russia's powerful special forces and a condo tower branded by Donald Trump.

Zorin is a Russian government official who has spent nearly $8 million on waterfront South Florida homes, hardly financially prudent given his bureaucrat's salary of $75,000 per year. He runs a state-owned broadcasting company that, among other duties, operates sound systems for the annual military parade that sends columns of soldiers and tanks rumbling through Moscow's Red Square.

Zorin has other Miami connections, too: His local business associate, Svyatoslav Mangushev, a Russian intelligence officer turned Miami real-estate investor, helped found a biker club called Spetsnaz M.C. Spetsnaz is a group of motorcycle-loving South Florida expatriates who named themselves after the Russian equivalent of Delta Force or Seal Team Six.

Read more here: www.miamiherald.com

The Russia Scandal Was Desperately Missing a Biker Gang Subplot. Well, Here It Is.

www.esquire.com

#61 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-15 11:22 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Inciting the STUPID!

WINNING!

#62 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2019-03-15 11:34 AM | Reply

49 people were murdered last night when one of his supporters got tough.

Another one was amassing an arsenal in Maryland.

Another one got tough in a Pittsburg synagogue.

This is how dictators act.

#63 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-15 01:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

the only GOP/MAGA county in Western NY state.

Once you get out of Erie County, every county is MAGAt country in WNY.

#64 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-15 01:16 PM | Reply

Impeach. He can not threaten public safety.

#65 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-15 02:21 PM | Reply

Are we really serving ourselves by NOT impeaching?

Even as a gesture.

#66 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-03-15 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I've seen two maga hats this week at two different grocery stores.
65-70 year old white guys.
They looked tough, for their age...
#11 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE AT 2019-03-14 02:20 PM

Talk about willful ignorance.

There was some bruha at Arlington recently.. something about a sea of MAGA hats surrounding and mocking an actual peaceful veneration. I believe they were all under 25.. Oh, and your Proud Boys are now banned. And check out the Trump rallies - lots of 'em bobbing in acceptance.

ALL of these terrorist attacks are your people - right wing fascist Christians. Every single one.

Many of them are ex-military service with experience with ordinance and SAP.

I hope you are military. Trained. Poised. Prepared.

#67 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-03-15 05:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Most Trump supporters look really tough when they're on motorcycles coming down the highway. Then they get off and you realize that most of them are in their seventies LOL

#68 | Posted by Tor at 2019-03-15 11:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

you realize that most of them are in their seventies LOL

#68 | POSTED BY TOR AT 2019-03-15 11:56 PM | FLAG: PPPFFFTTTTT

The best part is when they pull their helmets off... their teeth pop out.

#69 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-16 08:11 AM | Reply

I hope you are military. Trained. Poised. Prepared.

#67 | POSTED BY REDLIGHTROBOT AT 2019-03-15 05:22 PM | REPLY | FLAG:EYE ROLL

Are you kidding me?
You are threatening us with the military that hasn't won a war in 70 years?!?!?!... the same one defeated again and again by rag tag citizen soldiers all over the world making weapons out of what ever they could find... sending US military personnel home time and time again afu and propped up on prozac... doing the boohoo about PTSD... walking around on titanium prosthesis... committing suicide in record numbers.

We're not stupid... we see what you are really about... we are the ones that end changing your diapers when you can't cope. So stop with the ghost stories... you really overrate your skill sets... it doesn't work over there and it won't work over here.

We are Far more committed than you will ever be.

Every right wing policy you have clutched close to your collective bosoms over the last 50 yeas has been flushed down the toilet... regardless of how violent you get... You used to shoot at us in the 60's too. That's why your kinds runs off to the mountains practicing for Armageddon.

#70 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-16 08:31 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#52 | Posted by JeffJ

You're getting senile.

#71 | Posted by Angrydad at 2019-03-16 11:40 AM | Reply

#70 | POSTED BY RIGHTISTRITE AT 2019-03-16 08:31 AM | REPLY | NEWSWORTHY 1

I apologize for the confusion.

The Trump presidency is a true ghost story, all obfuscation and trickery.

Chairborne101 - I'm an idiot.

I just left Coastal and encountered two big, fit young dudes with full beards in overalls. Then I heard them speak Russian. They look military, imo. Perhaps I should fear local fictional cells instead of factual MAGA enthusiasts?

#72 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-03-16 10:28 PM | Reply

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