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Wednesday, March 13, 2019

Gov. Gavin Newsom is suspending the death penalty in California, calling it discriminatory and immoral, and is granting reprieves to the 737 condemned inmates on the nation's largest Death Row ... "The intentional killing of another person is wrong," he said. "And, as governor, I will not oversee the execution of any individual."

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737? Spooky coincidence.

#1 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-03-13 11:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Yayyyyyyyyyyyy

#2 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-13 11:50 AM | Reply

"The intentional killing of another person is wrong,"

Holding an individual within 4 walls is immoral.

Everyone should be pardoned.

~ TheLeft

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-13 11:53 AM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 2

Among the people affected by this reprieve are child killer Richard Allen Davis, serial killer Lonnie Franklin, and late term abortionist Scott Peterson.

#4 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-03-13 12:00 PM | Reply

#4 They didn't mean to do it, just ask them.

#5 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-13 12:11 PM | Reply

Collussion isn't a crime!

Hillary did it too!

Manafort's a goooood maaaan!

Everyone should be pardoned.

~ TheCult

#6 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-13 12:32 PM | Reply

I oppose the death penalty. Having said that, Newsom doesn't have the power to do this. The law is on the books and he took an oath to uphold the law.

#7 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 12:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Laws are for little people. Californians have voted twice in the last 5 years against repealing the death penalty, but rich elitist NewBeam doesn't care what the unwashed masses think.

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-13 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

you can always vote him out of office at the next election

isn't that what you snowflakes are always yammering on about?

#9 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-13 01:33 PM | Reply

Yayyyyyyyyyyyy

#2 | POSTED BY LAURAMOHR

Well he is kind of cute so good call Laura.

#10 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2019-03-13 01:43 PM | Reply

A good first step. And Newsom does have the authority to do what he did. He did not overturn any sentences, he merely has put a temporary (as long as he's governor) hold on any executions, not all that different than what other governors have done recently.

Besides, it's been 13 years since California has executed anyone, so it's not like anything has actually changed.

OCU

#11 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-03-13 02:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#3 | Posted by AndreaMackris

Thou shall not kill.

Who said that?

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-13 02:12 PM | Reply

Besides, it's been 13 years since California has executed anyone, so it's not like anything has actually changed.
OCU
#11 | POSTED BY OCUSER

Eggggggsactly! The system is broken and yet Californians STILL voted to maintain the status quo. Something like $50 million a year to keep the process going that's incapable of accomplishing the exact purpose of its existence. Californian's LOVE to waste money, especially as it ties to the justice system.

#13 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-13 02:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I oppose the death penalty. Having said that, Newsom doesn't have the power to do this. The law is on the books and he took an oath to uphold the law.

#7 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

You are correct that he does not hold the power to overturn the law but you are incorrect in stating he doesn't have this authority. He is not obligated under the law to issue execution orders so he does have the power to make it a policy under his governorship that no warrants will be issued. He also has the authority to commute any and all death sentences in California to life in prison. Newsom's move really isn't even much of a change for the state. It is effectively a continuation of Jerry Brown's unstated policy of not issuing death warrants.

I salute Newsom for his legal, moral and ethical leadership in this matter.

#14 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-03-13 02:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I said it was a good "first step". There is much more that needs to be done.

OCU

#15 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-03-13 02:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

He also has the authority to commute any and all death sentences in California to life in prison...

#14 | POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE

Which would have been the proper way to achieve this end.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 02:26 PM | Reply

#7 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

I agree. I also oppose the death penalty. And if any state wants to do away with it they should do so legislatively.

That said, I really don't understand why anyone would be enamored with capital punishment, except for vengeance. It's already been disproved as an effective deterrent. And IMO life in prison is a far worse fate, which can be made better or worse, depending upon the sentence.

#17 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-03-13 02:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democrats like Newsome save the murderers and murder the babies. Liberalism is truly a mental & moral disorder.

#18 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-13 02:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#17 | POSTED BY WHATSLEFT

Yep. Not to mention how long it takes from the time the sentence is handed down to the time the inmate sits on old Sparky.

The bigger issue for me is with DNA technology and other forensic measures, how many times prior convictions get overturned. If someone was wrongly convicted for murder they have don't get a second chance at life if they are put down.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Repug Felon George Ryan suspended executions in Illinois decades ago.

#20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-03-13 02:54 PM | Reply

#19 Agreed 100%. Too many examples of wrongful conviction out there to support such a permanent punishment (to say nothing of its questionable morality or value as a punishment to begin with).

#21 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-13 02:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

It has been reported that at least 144 people, who had been sentenced to death since 1973, have had their convictions overturned. It's also reported that during a similar period of time, as many as 39 innocent people may have been executed in the United States.

www.newsweek.com

OCU

#22 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-03-13 03:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Finally. I was disappointed that Jerry Brown did not do something similar prior to leaving office. The death penalty has no valid function in a modern, first world nation.

#23 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-03-13 03:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Let's be honest, CA was not going to execute anyone. Hasn't this always just been a symbolic judgement? This will just allow an overtaxed population to keep more of their money.

#24 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-03-13 03:48 PM | Reply

"The death penalty has no valid function in a modern, first world nation."

So what would you have done with all those Nazi leaders who had participated in the final solution? Simply lock them up and move on? Pardon them?

#25 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-03-13 03:49 PM | Reply

Simply lock them up and move on?

#25 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Yes.

#26 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-03-13 06:04 PM | Reply

"The death penalty has no valid function in a modern, first world nation."

A lot a bozos are gonna be real disappointed to hear that 😔.

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-13 07:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

""I do not believe that a civilized society can claim to be a leader in the world as long as its government continues to sanction the premeditated and discriminatory execution of its people," Newsom said in a statement accompanying an executive order, to be issued Wednesday, declaring a moratorium on capital punishment in the state. "The death penalty is inconsistent with our bedrock values and strikes at the very heart of what it means to be a Californian."

What can anyone have to disagree with about his comment?

Is the death penalty applied discriminatorily? Yes, of course.
Does a civilized society punish people by killing them? No, of course not.

Further, not from the article, have we executed innocent people? Yes, of course we have.

Why did Germany, after the Holocaust, specifically put that the government does not have the right to take anyone's life in their constitution?
If the government has the right to kill you then it is only a matter of the "crime" that justifies it and that is a flexible idea as Germany discovered under Hitler.

I applaud Newsom.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-13 09:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Should have offed Scott Peterson first.

#29 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-03-13 09:42 PM | Reply

Laws are for little people. Californians have voted twice in the last 5 years against repealing the death penalty, but rich elitist NewBeam doesn't care what the unwashed masses think.

#8 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Oh save us your sanctimonious nonsense.

Trump is the above times 1000.

#30 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-13 11:11 PM | Reply

Liberalism is truly a mental & moral disorder.

#18 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

LOL you righties are too farking stupid to know how unaware you are.

#31 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-13 11:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Trump is the above times 1000.

#30 | POSTED BY JPW

Example(s)?

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 11:14 PM | Reply

Liberalism is truly a mental & moral disorder.

#18 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED
LOL you righties are too farking stupid to know how unaware you are.

POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-03-13 11:13 PM | REPLY

So blissfully unawares too.

#33 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-13 11:19 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Democrats like Newsome save the murderers and murder the babies. Liberalism is truly a mental & moral disorder.

#18 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-13 02:40 PM |

Every innocent person who have been sentenced to death blood is on your hand and others like you.

You want revenge and not justice and you don't give 1 damn that your revenge also kills those who might have been sentenced wrongly.

Go to hell lady

#34 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-13 11:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Every innocent person who have been sentenced to death blood is on your hand and others like you...

#34 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM

By that logic, every murderer who got out due to a lax system only to kill again is blood on your hand and others like you....you can't have it both ways.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 11:44 PM | Reply

"By that logic, every murderer who got out due to a lax system only to kill again is blood on your hand and others like you....you can't have it both ways.
#35 | POSTED BY JEFFJ"

In criminal law, Blackstone's ratio (also known as the Blackstone ratio or Blackstone's formulation) is the idea that:
"It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
en.wikipedia.org

Sounds like you disagree with Blackstone.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-13 11:48 PM | Reply

Sounds like you disagree with Blackstone.

#36 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

It's not a yes/no scenario

#37 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 11:55 PM | Reply

Who said that?
#12 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Who knows and who cares .... you take someones life illegally, through murder .. you should die ... sorry....

#38 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-14 12:10 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Liberalism is truly a mental & moral disorder.
#18 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

Agreed ...

#39 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-14 12:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"It's not a yes/no scenario"

Then say what it is.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-14 02:26 AM | Reply

Then say what it is.

#40 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Why? You wouldn't understand, and if you did you wouldn't care.

#41 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-14 02:40 AM | Reply

I do care. I think JeffJ should give his ratio.

You can too, but it involves math, so, you know...

#42 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-14 03:28 AM | Reply

With respect to the death penalty, the only moral answer is the ratio must be zero.

Unless, of course, the innocent person being executed is accepting of a false positive rate in the application of the death penalty. If they are okay with a society that kills people for crimes they didn't commit, then they should accept their own lot in life.

I oppose the death penalty for the same reason I oppose murder. Because some death penalties are really murders.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-14 03:36 AM | Reply

By that logic, every murderer who got out due to a lax system only to kill again is blood on your hand and others like you....you can't have it both ways.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 11:44 PM | Reply | Fl

No I believe that a life sentence with no parole would stop that.

#44 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-14 04:40 AM | Reply

No I believe that a life sentence with no parole would stop that.

#44 | POSTED BY PUNCHYPOSSUM

Fair enough.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 09:12 AM | Reply

Fine with me if they are willing to incarcerate for life as IMO no one who has committed murder should be released to possibly do it again.

#46 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-03-14 01:44 PM | Reply

IMO no one who has committed murder should be released to possibly do it again.

#46 | POSTED BY MSGT

Yeah! Unless they're buddy-buddy with Jared Kushner, then its fiiiine, right?

#47 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-14 02:15 PM | Reply

That's why I'm glad I live in another state other than California.

#48 | Posted by boaz at 2019-03-14 02:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#48 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Because you'd rather die than rot in jail?

#49 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-14 02:56 PM | Reply

There are prisoners who will kill other prisoners in order to finish their jail time on death row because relatively speaking its cushy... you can live a couple decades there. I think its a good idea send them to gen pod and let the live our their natural lives in an unnatural situation.

Boazo aided and abetted the murder and maiming of millions...

#50 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-14 03:39 PM | Reply

This will just allow an overtaxed population to keep more of their money.
#24 | POSTED BY MADBOMBER

Not until they gut the system, which we voted AGAINST a few years ago. Until then, California tax payers will continue to pay for a death penalty system that does not work because California law makers refuse to put it to work (thankfully, IMO).

#51 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-14 06:49 PM | Reply

That's why I'm glad I live in another state other than California.
#48 | POSTED BY BOAZ

We know there's MANY more reasons than that, BO.

Who in the HELL do you think you're fooling?

(BTW, you can stay out!)

#52 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-14 06:53 PM | Reply

"because California law makers refuse to put it to work (thankfully, IMO)."

Yeah.

If government is going to spend, I'd rather they spend it on not killing people, as opposed to spending it on killing people.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-14 09:54 PM | Reply

That's why I'm glad I live in another state other than California.
#48 | POSTED BY BOAZ

We are glad too! Don't need anymore Neurotics here.

Keep your ignorance in West Va where we can keep an eye on it. 👁
(and wear those Red MAGAt hats for easier targeting 😂)

Most followers of the Death Cult seem to love the Death Penalty. And they worship Death so why not? It makes them feel Godly. Divine. Except they are not. It is not divine to take any innocent Life that cannot be restored. It does not Glorify the Lord. It is Neurotic.

Killing The Other makes the Neurotic forget about their own impending Death Penalties ... the one that they never know when it is coming and the one that they can do Nothing about.

Enjoy your Death Penalty Bozo.

#54 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-14 10:12 PM | Reply

I said above that I am not in favor of the death penalty, and that life in prison is a far worse penalty. But I would be fully in favor of giving convicted murderers, who should be serving life sentences, the means to take their own lives.

#55 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-03-15 12:41 PM | Reply

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