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Wednesday, March 13, 2019

Steve Almond: In the ensuing years, GOP leaders happily torpedoed campaign finance reform measures that arose from Watergate. They slashed taxes on the rich and waged a war on social programs. They launched costly wars based on bogus intel. They ran up massive debts after fulminating about budget deficits. They chose to protect the profits of the gun lobby over the lives of children -- even after 20 6 and 7-year-olds were gunned down in cold blood. They embraced voter suppression. They flouted the Constitution by refusing even to consider the Supreme Court nominee of a Democratic president, and rubber-stamped a Republican nominee credibly accused of sexual assault. They even found a way to justify ripping migrant children from their parents.

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Yup. I agree with this article.

#1 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-12 12:42 PM | Reply

Immoral perfectly describes todays "conservative"

they whine about someone knocking a hat off some asshats head, but condone murdering someone by car

#2 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-12 01:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

Steve Almond is some fine writer....

the paragraph proceeding the thread header

"The dulling of the Republican Party's moral gag reflex began long before Donald Trump came along. Back in 1968, Richard Nixon made a conscious decision to adopt a Southern Strategy that would transform the party of Lincoln into a party happy to welcome white supremacists into the fold."

Trump is only the latest grotesque head of this immoral, monetized party.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-12 01:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

#3, Yeah I wanted to include that part but the character limit had it's own plan.

#4 | Posted by qcp at 2019-03-12 01:32 PM | Reply

#4

I would kill for Rogers' headline character length expanding Super Power.

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-12 01:43 PM | Reply

Surprisingly, no conservatives post here trying to defend their indefensible history since Nixon. Thousands of people are dead today, we owe trillion of dollars in debts, our country is deeply divided because of conservative Republicans who do not have consciences, if they did we would have an avalance of apologies for the wrong headed and evil things they have done to our country and to the world.

When you think about the Southern Strategy which has been used by every single Republican candidate for President since Nixon just realize that it is divisive....intentionally so. They want to divide America because only through resentment of civil rights and equality for all can they put together enough votes, based on hatred, to win elections.

#6 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-13 06:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Yawn....an opinion piece by a left wing troll accusing conservatives of immorality. Dude must not look in the mirror in the mornings....

#7 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-03-13 08:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 3

Yawn....an opinion piece by a left wing troll accusing conservatives of immorality. Dude must not look in the mirror in the mornings....

#7 | POSTED BY Comrade Pinto

The irony and hypocrisy of your post went right over your Russian loving head there Hilljack but you are too stupid to realize it. Doofus!

#8 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-03-13 09:19 AM | Reply

accusing conservatives of immorality.

Remember when Obama had five kids from three different mothers and he cheated on all of them by raw dogging porn stars?

Oh yeah, that was the Messiah for Morons.

#9 | Posted by Nixon at 2019-03-13 09:21 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

-Remember when Obama had five kids from three different mothers and he cheated on all of them by raw dogging porn stars?

nope. but I remember stories being told here about GHWB flying to Nebraska to bang orphan children.

#10 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-13 10:34 AM | Reply

Yawn....an opinion piece by a left wing troll accusing conservatives of immorality. Dude must not look in the mirror in the mornings....

#7 | Posted by MUSTANG

So refute his points. You can't.

Just deflect or try to find some false equivalency as usual.

GOP 2020!
FALSE EQUIVALENCY IS OUR ONLY POLICY!

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-13 02:55 PM | Reply

Republicl*wns haven't been interested in doing the right thing for as long as I remember... Nixon was a slug that kept us in war long enough to get re-elected... we know how well that went... then there was Reagan who presided over one of the most corrupt administrations in US history... Followed by Reagan light...Bush 1... who pardoned Weinberger to let president brain-dead off the hook... and himself by association... you know put the past behind us...

then we got Bush-hole deux who was put in office to "clean it up" bring back a sense of morality blah blah blah... we all know how well that went... wee wee wee all the way home... but not until the brother of a business partner staged the only attack on US soil in our history... then stood on the rubble telling us to go shopping. That whole televised war thing was weird too.

Speaking of wee wee... now its Trumplethinskin... the stinking head of the festering pustule that is the clown party.

Before you pigs look up from you sty and go oinking and squealing about Clinton... at least none of Clinton's "professional" lovers discussed his mediocre bedroom skills in terms of cartoon mushrooms... and being consummated while his 3rd wife was pregnant with his 5th (that we know of)spawn...

Also... I don't remember the dem prez's talking about their daughter's worth in sexual terms.

#12 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-03-13 03:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

So refute his points

Most of his "points" are policy disagreements that have nothing to do with morality.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 03:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Most of his "points" are policy disagreements that have nothing to do with morality.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ

His points are historical facts. The republican record, which displays their morality.

You are what you do. You are what you support.

And if you vote for the party with that record, then their behavior and their record is what you support.

#14 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-13 03:57 PM | Reply

His points are overly simplistic talking points. Again, most of his points are simply policy agreements that have nothing to do with morality.

#15 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 03:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#15 Policy disagreements.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 04:03 PM | Reply

Funny how our conservative posters can only Slay the Source and deflect.

I wasn't alive when Nixon was president and too young when Reagan and GHWB were president.

But based on BushJr and Donnie. My impression of Republicans is they have no interest in what's good for America. Only what's good to enrich themselves.

The amount of bullshht they created to slander Obama pales in comparison to the reality of Trump's daily actions.

As long as conservatives only desire is to "own libs", this country will remain divided and continue to fail.

#17 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-13 04:06 PM | Reply

His points are overly simplistic talking points. Again, most of his points are simply policy agreements that have nothing to do with morality.

#15 | Posted by JeffJ

His point are republican ENACTED POLICIES, HISTORICAL FACTS, which reveals their agenda and their morality.
No amount of wordplay or semantics will erase that.

You can always choose to stop supporting it though.

#18 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-13 04:12 PM | Reply

The author presumes that ONLY the policies he supports are moral. Further, the author presumes that EVERY policy he opposes is immoral.

Having a conversation with that degree of religious zealotry is impossible.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 04:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Yawn....an opinion piece by a left wing troll accusing conservatives of immorality. Dude must not look in the mirror in the mornings....

#7 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

Says the party of the Porn Star President. Lol.

#20 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-03-13 04:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The author presumes that ONLY the policies he supports are moral. Further, the author presumes that EVERY policy he opposes is immoral.

Having a conversation with that degree of religious zealotry is impossible.

#19 | Posted by JeffJ

Yes only religious zealots think that cutting taxes on the rich and taking health care from the poor is immoral.

Who's to say if that's really right or wrong? Speaking of which, what's so bad about murder or rape? I mean who are we to judge?

#21 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-13 04:32 PM | Reply

Cutting taxes on the rich is not immoral.

taking health care from the poor

Hasn't happened.

what's so bad about murder or rape? I mean who are we to judge?

So now you are drawing equivalence between murder/rape and a reduction in marginal tax rates?

That's the kind of thing a religious zealot would do.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 04:36 PM | Reply

taking health care from the poor

Hasn't happened.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ

Right. And trump never paid stormy daniels.

www.countable.us
Gallup: Trump Oversees Alarming Surge in Number of Americans Losing Health Care

Cutting taxes on the rich is not immoral.
It is when it's done because they bribe the gov to do so, and it creates a massive budget hole that the non rich will have to address.

Stockholm syndrome jeff. These people laugh at you chumps.

#23 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-13 04:42 PM | Reply

Cutting taxes on the rich is not immoral.
It is when it's done because they bribe the gov to do so, and it creates a massive budget hole that the non rich will have to address.

I just read that 2017 set a record for tax revenues to the federal government. We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 04:45 PM | Reply

www.countable.us
Gallup: Trump Oversees Alarming Surge in Number of Americans Losing Health Care

Your link provides no causation.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 04:48 PM | Reply

I just read that 2017 set a record for tax revenues to the federal government.

What does that have to do with the tax cuts the rich received?

2017 is still Obama's economy.

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-13 04:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

we have a spending problem.

What spending would you cut? Would it be enough to close the budget deficit?

#27 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-13 04:57 PM | Reply

I just read that 2017 set a record for tax revenues to the federal government. We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 04:45 PM | Reply

That's Obama's economy you're praising. Trump's economy didn't start until Oct 01 2017 at 12:01 AM.

#28 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-13 05:09 PM | Reply

Your link provides no causation.
#25 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Obama didn't cause the recession. He still had to act because he's in charge.

Why does trump only have to fix his own messes?

#29 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-13 05:25 PM | Reply

"Your link provides no causation."

You'd have to have your head up your a** to require more causation than we've experienced.

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-03-13 05:33 PM | Reply

We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ

We don't have a "taxes too high on the rich" problem. We have a "rich controlling the government" problem.

#31 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-13 06:02 PM | Reply

"We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem." - #24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 04:45 PM

They're not mutually exclusive.

#32 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-13 06:04 PM | Reply

I like this thread... I learned that political policy has nothing to do with moral positions.

Thanks, Jeffyism!

#33 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-13 08:35 PM | Reply

will more come out regarding Lisa Page's testimony? And when are going to get some info on John Huber's investigation?

#34 | Posted by scooter28054 at 2019-03-14 08:23 AM | Reply

"Republican nominee credibly accused of sexual assault." really? and all the rest of the accusations

Libs love to attack Conservative Morals since Liberals don't have any

#35 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-03-14 11:40 AM | Reply

"Libs love to attack Conservative Morals since Liberals don't have any" - #35 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-03-14 11:40 AM

Yeah.

Liberals don't have so-called "Conservative Morals" because we can't fathom having "morals" like worshiping the immoral Donald Trump.

#36 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-14 01:48 PM | Reply

Libs love to attack Conservative Morals since Liberals don't have any
#35 | POSTED BY MAVERICK

Conservatives traded in their souls for a chance to own libs.

You don't get to elect Trump, and then complain about liberals lacking morals.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-14 02:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I argued this point a couple of weeks ago. The basis of the conservative world view is by definition less moral than a liberal position. The conservative world view is based on (supposed) individualism and self interest. Modern liberal world view is based on a collective and all embracing good for the most people.

All across the board, liberal values are more moral than conservative

1. taxes-progressive, ie those with the most pay the most vs. conservative cutting of taxes for the wealthiest
2. social programs, ie welfare, Medicaid, SS liberals want to expand vs. conservatives who want to cut the benefits (liberals primary focus is covering all needs vs conservatives who are worried about the small percentage of unworthy recipients)
3. Gun control-liberals want to protect innocents vs. conservatives who dont want their "rights" curtailed
4. Gay marriage-allowing alternative forms of love to receive the full protection of the law vs. conservatives who want to restrict who can be married
5. Death Penalty-liberals who value every human being and recognize an imperfect system vs. conservatives who value revenge over possible redemption

etc. etc etc.

conservatives suck, basically

#38 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-14 02:58 PM | Reply

#38 Yet conservatives donate more of their time and money to charity than liberals on a percentage of their income.

There is nothing moral about coerced collectivism.

#39 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 03:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

There is nothing moral about coerced collectivism

If the goals and outcomes of that collectivism align with your morals, there absolutely is.

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-14 03:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

OK, let me phrase it another way. Pushing for coerced collectivism is no more moral than pushing for rugged individualism. In fact, I'd say individualism is more moral because you aren't trampling on anybody's liberty.

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 04:02 PM | Reply

Pushing for coerced collectivism is no more moral than pushing for rugged individualism

I still don't agree. For one, your statement presupposes that there is a universal definition of what is "moral." Second, if the goals and outcomes of collectivism, even coerced, more closely align with your morals, then it remains more moral than "rugged individualism" (whatever that is).

#42 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-14 04:16 PM | Reply

articles.latimes.com

No difference in charity between liberals and conservatives

I guess liberals are more moral cause they lie far less

#43 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-14 04:17 PM | Reply

Conservative individualism and liberty tends to infringe on other's liberty

#44 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-14 04:19 PM | Reply

For one, your statement presupposes that there is a universal definition of what is "moral." ...

#42 | POSTED BY JOE A

On this, I agree. It's a point I've tried to make to Troofy. I never should have played under the terms of the debate that he'd set.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 04:58 PM | Reply

Conservative individualism and liberty tends to infringe on other's liberty

#44 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

How?

#46 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-14 04:58 PM | Reply

Example
gun rights
Conservatives believe their right to own a gun trumps others right here to not be shot

Environmental protection- conservatives are against permitting certain wetlands despite the impact their actions in the wetlands will impact others

#47 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-14 05:03 PM | Reply

@45 no one claimed you are smart jefe

#48 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-14 05:05 PM | Reply

Death penalty
Conservatives believe it is acceptable to take a person's life something every one has a right to

#49 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-14 05:08 PM | Reply

Libbies talking about morality always cracks me up!🤣

#50 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-03-14 05:13 PM | Reply

#50 Did you vote for Donald Trump? If so, kindly STFU about "'morals" for the rest of your pathetic existence.

#51 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-14 05:15 PM | Reply

"Our side is good, the other side is evil!"
-Every Partisan, ever.

#52 | Posted by Merovigan at 2019-03-14 08:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#38 Yet conservatives donate more of their time and money to charity than liberals on a percentage of their income.
Not true

There is nothing moral about coerced collectivism.

Romans 13:1-7. Pay close attention to 6 and 7.

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#53 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-15 01:11 AM | Reply

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