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Monday, March 11, 2019

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has suggested she's not eager to impeach President Donald Trump but on Monday she put it bluntly, saying she's "not for impeachment."

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#1 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-11 04:35 PM | Reply

told you he wouldn't be impeached

#2 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-11 04:37 PM | Reply

#2

I will leave it up to Hans and his archive to verify the accuracy of that claim.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-11 04:43 PM | Reply

Nancy, being the shrewd operator that she is, knows that impeaching Trump will not only further entrench his base, but may draw some sympathy to him that he ordinarily wouldn't have.

I think that she much prefers for him to flail about on Twitter, handing him the rope that he will wind around his own neck.

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-11 04:45 PM | Reply

She's right. I'd still love to see it happen, but she's 100% right.

#5 | Posted by qcp at 2019-03-11 04:51 PM | Reply

#2
I will leave it up to Hans and his archive to verify the accuracy of that claim.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter a

I have posted numerous times that Trump won't be impeached, indicted or resign. In fact, he may win reelection and if he loses may very well claim the results were fraudulent.

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-11 04:51 PM | Reply

She's right. I'd still love to see it happen, but she's 100% right.
#5 | Posted by qcp

She may be correct, but she's not right. Right would be to impeach, arrest, convict and imprison scum like Trump, but that simply isn't going to happen.

BTW the fact that Pelosi would use divisiveness as an excuse not to impeach shows the problem with the Democratic Party. Repukes would not have that qualm. And leadership would mean doing the hard work to get America behind impeachment.

Some Americans understand that the powers that reside in the Presidency and by default with Republicans who control the WH, the SC and the Senate are too important to leave them with criminal scum for another 2 years.

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-11 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I think that she much prefers for him to flail about on Twitter, handing him the rope that he will wind around his own neck.
#4 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

With that said, wouldn't you think it would have been politically expedient to hold out a LOT while longer? Hanging the potential of impeachment over Trump's head at least a year out from 2020 election?

I'm just thinking if flailing about on Twitter is an intended outcome, making this statement now eases a lot of pressure off of Trump. I wonder if he'll thank her on Twitter for making this statement.

#8 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-11 05:00 PM | Reply

I for one am sick and ------- tired of republican presidents who start wars of aggression, crash our economy and are ------- corrupt up to their eyeballs. Maybe we could actually hold one of them accountable. Too much, I realize. But it would take the Democrats to grow some guts.

#9 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-11 05:04 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I'm just thinking if flailing about on Twitter is an intended outcome, making this statement now eases a lot of pressure off of Trump.

I don't think it relives the pressure at all, I think that it merely feeds him more rope to hang himself with.

Bottom line, Trump isn't getting impeached, then convicted, then arrested. The latter part may happen in the SDNY for insurance fraud, but that won't be until he is out of office, be it 2020 or 2024.

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-11 05:11 PM | Reply

Nancy Pelosi on Trump: 'I'm not for impeachment.'

Good.

Impeachment (and sure acquittal by the Senate) creates a victim.

Getting voted out of office in November, 2020, creates a loser.

Which one does President Fat Clemenza prefer:

To campaign on being a snowflake victim; or,

To be called a loser for the rest of his life?

#11 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-11 06:12 PM | Reply

Couldn't if you wanted to.

The gop senate will ensure we suffer for the full four years.

#12 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-03-11 06:17 PM | Reply

"I don't think we should go down that path, because it divides the country. And he's just not worth it."

Code: "We got nuthin."

#13 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-03-11 06:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Code: "We got nuthin." - #13 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-03-11 06:20 PM

Speaking of having "nuthin":

"November is going to be a bloodbath for Dems. Pelosi and crew are a train wreck. I'll wait for change after the massacre. Bookmark it. - #80 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2018-09-07 06:47 PM

#14 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-11 06:23 PM | Reply

Pelosi is smart. Paint the GoP as defenders of a traitorous criminal Whitehouse. She knows the GoP Senate will protect the criminal in chief. Use that next election cycle after Mueller's report is leaked.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2019-03-11 06:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I for one am sick and ------- tired of republican presidents who start wars of aggression, crash our economy and are ------- corrupt up to their eyeballs."

Sooooo.....Trump is 1 for 3. Obama was also 1 for 3 (and was a repeat offender). Clinton was 3 for 3.

#16 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2019-03-11 06:43 PM | Reply

Not an Onion story. This is what passes for "journalism" in the MSM-DNC.

Elderly Americans Are Dying Without Getting to Read Mueller's Report - And They're Not Happy About It

www.newsweek.com

#17 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-11 06:48 PM | Reply

#17

Edward R. Murrow just rolled over in his grave.

#18 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-11 07:55 PM | Reply

A great big nothing burger.... all bun and tongue but NO meat...

So that's what you get for 30 million tax money spent...

NOTHING

Like I said many times Democrats are out spending like drunken sailors doing everything to stop Trump.

But not to worry--- The American people will still elect Trump 2020.

Still kinda fun to watch the "Never Trump Snowflakes" stomp their feet and scream and cry to the sky.

#19 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-03-11 08:12 PM | Reply

"So that's what you get for 30 million tax money spent...
NOTHING"
#19 | POSTED BY PEGASUS

Yes, the Mueller investigation is costly. But the millions seized from Manafort have it on track to break even
www.usatoday.com

#20 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-11 08:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#20

That's an excellent point, I hadn't thought of forfeiture funding Mueller.

#21 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-11 08:48 PM | Reply

...I hadn't thought ...
#21 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-03-11 08:48 PM | FLAG: NEWSWORTHY

#22 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-11 08:49 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

don't like Nancy, but that is a wise decision

she knows there's nothing in the Mueller investigation.

funny how the mainstream has stopped talking about the Russian collusion... ... .and #metoo movement (come to find out 80-90% of the accused are Liberals)

#23 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-03-11 08:53 PM | Reply

"she knows there's nothing in the Mueller investigation." - #23 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-03-11 08:53 PM

Maverick's idea of "nothing in the Mueller investigation".

Get back to us when you have an idea of something in the Mueller investigation.

#24 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-11 08:58 PM | Reply

"(come to find out 80-90% of the accused are Liberals)" - #23 | Posted by Maverick at 2019-03-11 08:53 PM

When all else fails, lie.

#25 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-11 08:59 PM | Reply

"Pelosi says without ‘compelling' evidence, she opposes Trump impeachment"

Is the thread article headline.... which only makes sense until the Report is made and analyzed.

Here's an actual article on what she said and what others say....

www.washingtonpost.com

Her point being that impeachment is not likely to be successful without bipartisan support based on good evidence of impeachable offenses... and even if there is such evidence, that will only mobilize his base who don't believe in facts anyway.

If the evidence, though, is undeniable to most Americans and enough Repub Senators, then there will be impeachment hearings.

She plays the press better than they play her, btw.

#26 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 09:12 PM | Reply


@#19 ... So that's what you get for 30 million tax money spent... ...

Trump Budget Includes Funding for Mueller If Probe Remains Open
www.bloomberg.com

...The Russia investigation has cost about $25 million in total from the time Mueller was appointed in May 2017 to the end of September 2018, according to the most recently available spending figures. That includes money spent by other department components in support of the investigation.

The investigation may ultimately bring more money into the government's coffers than Mueller spends, when the value of forfeited assets from those he's charged is taken into account....


#27 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-03-11 09:22 PM | Reply


@#26 ... Her point being that impeachment is not likely to be successful without bipartisan support based on good evidence of impeachable offenses.. ...

Yup.

Talk of impeachment before Mr Mueller releases his report is quite premature.

#28 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-03-11 09:24 PM | Reply

Like I said many times Democrats are out spending like drunken sailors doing everything to stop Trump.
But not to worry--- The American people will still elect Trump 2020.
Still kinda fun to watch the "Never Trump Snowflakes" stomp their feet and scream and cry to the sky.
#19 | Posted by Pegasus

You do realize that the trumptilians controlled both houses of congress for the past 2 years? You really are very stupid.

#29 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-11 09:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Talk of impeachment before Mr Mueller releases his report is quite premature.
#28 | Posted by LampLighter

That;s a load of --------. Trump has done more high crimes and misdemeanors than Carter had liver pills. Impeachment should be talked about non-stop until that load of feral swamp gas is in jail.

#30 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-11 09:34 PM | Reply


@#30 ... That;s a load of --------. ...

Why thank-you. I do try, e.g., feeding the bulls lots of fiber.

But more to what I think your point is...

To me, impeachment is a serious process. I would not want to enter that process without evidence produced by the rigor of a proper investigation.

While Mr Mueller's investigation has resulted in convictions/indictments for many who have been in Pres Trump's close circle, the part that matters for impeachment has not yet been released.

While I may or may not disagree with your opinion of Pres Trump (I've written here about my opinion of him that was formed over the past three decades based upon what I've seen and read on local news), before we adjourn to the Constitutional process of impeachment (and conviction by the Senate) I'd want to see the results of Mr Mueller's investigation.

#31 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-03-11 10:09 PM | Reply

-Talk of impeachment before Mr Mueller releases his report is quite premature.

I agree. If you want a bipartisan effort to vote trump out, then that report has to be a factor. It gives cover to republicans that want him out anyway.

#32 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-11 10:10 PM | Reply

I've said more than once that Trump will be President for at least one full term.

As always, best wishes for RBG.

#33 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-03-11 10:20 PM | Reply

BTW the fact that Pelosi would use divisiveness as an excuse not to impeach shows the problem with the Democratic Party. Repukes would not have that qualm. And leadership would mean doing the hard work to get America behind impeachment.

The Dems are more reliant on the fickle portion of the electorate. As such, the need to be more cognizant of how their actions will be interpreted.

The GOP is reliant on mouth breathing dumbasses who act as if they're under Faux News Jedi mind tricks.

"This is not the news you're looking for".

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-11 10:47 PM | Reply

I am not FOR Impeachment either.

Like I am not FOR Abortion.

(Except for the health of the mother or in case of rape, ------ etc)

And since we have obviously been raped as a Nation and the health of our country is obviously at stake I would be ok with it if the facts warrant it (bipartisan or not).

Especially since we are already about as divided as we can get.

#35 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-11 10:51 PM | Reply

Nancy is going backwards doing the MJ moon walk... 30 million dollars tax money spent and NOTHING... a big democratic let down.

but she did said this after the press conference...

www.youtube.com

#36 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-03-12 12:22 AM | Reply

coward

#37 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2019-03-12 01:49 AM | Reply

She's saying the right thing. Until they can convince the public to support them, there's no point.

#38 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-12 06:45 AM | Reply

Democrats were screaming for blood too when George W. left office But Obama wisely decided it would divide the country when unity in the pursuit of higher goals was more important than revenge. Obama was correct.

Different set of circumstances but the object lesson is the same.

#39 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-03-12 08:45 AM | Reply

Considering the nonsense Republicans talked about impeaching Obama over, Pelosi should be praised for her restraint (or criticized for her timidity, depending where you stand).

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 09:00 AM | Reply

Joe,

I don't recall Republicans ever making a serious push to impeach Obama.

Even radical members of the GOP House never drafted articles of Impeachment that I can recall.

Contrast that with:

Rep. Brad Sherman, a California Democrat, plans to re-introduce articles of impeachment against Trump on the first day of the new Congress, he said Thursday. Sherman was one of three Democrats who introduced resolutions to impeach Trump in 2017, along with Reps. Al Green of Texas and Steve Cohen of Tennessee, part of an effort from a small wing of House Democrats seeking to remove the President from office.

www.cnn.com

#41 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 09:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#41 Plenty of their members talked about it, for anything from ridiculous birther claims to just stopping his agenda.

#42 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 09:19 AM | Reply

#41 Plenty of their members talked about it, for anything from ridiculous birther claims to just stopping his agenda.

#42 | POSTED BY JOE

From the day he stepped into office?

Further, did any member of the House ever actually draft articles as Democrats have, more than once?

#43 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 09:33 AM | Reply

Maybe you misread my post. I said "Republicans talked about impeaching Obama" over ridiculous things like birtherism. You can't refute that so now you're adding additional elements like "from the day he stepped into office?" Go play move the goalposts with someone else.

#44 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 09:55 AM | Reply

"Republicans talked about impeaching Obama" over ridiculous things like birtherism

Over birtherism? Elected Republicans?

The only Republican I was able to find using birtherism as a pretext for impeachment was Blake Farenthold, who's a nobody from Texas.

Go play move the goalposts with someone else.

#44 | POSTED BY JOE

Let's talk about goalposts for a minute...

This was your original comment:

Considering the nonsense Republicans talked about impeaching Obama over, Pelosi should be praised for her restraint (or criticized for her timidity, depending where you stand).

#40 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-03-12 09:00 AM |


Pelosi is Speaker of the House and prior to 2019 she was minority leader. So, apples to apples, please provide a citation where John Boehner or Paul Ryan ever seriously talked about impeachment of Obama.

#45 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 10:04 AM | Reply

Talking about impeachment is one thing. Actually drafting articles of impeachment and having members of a party sign on is quite another.

Your comment about 'showing restraint' is ridiculous given how you've tried to blur the lines.

#46 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 10:06 AM | Reply

Over birtherism? Elected Republicans?
The only Republican I was able to find using birtherism as a pretext for impeachment was Blake Farenthold, who's a nobody from Texas.

Yes, elected Republicans. And the fact that you might conveniently consider one of them a "nobody" doesn't mean he isn't an "elected Republican."

#47 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 10:08 AM | Reply

Yes, elected Republicans. And the fact that you might conveniently consider one of them a "nobody" doesn't mean he isn't an "elected Republican."

#47 | POSTED BY JOE

Is he Speaker? Minority leader? Minority Whip?

Comparing Pelosi to a fringe congressman from Texas is beyond a stretch.

You're comparing apples to pumpkins.

#48 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 10:11 AM | Reply

Talking about impeachment is one thing. Actually drafting articles of impeachment and having members of a party sign on is quite another.

You act surprised that the reaction to the gravity of the perceived offense is equal in scale. When Democrats "talk about" impeaching Trump based on an invented story of him being born outside the US, then we can talk about "apples to apples comparisons." Or do stories like that only get made up about black people?

#49 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 10:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

he Speaker? Minority leader? Minority Whip?

All i said was that he was a "Republican." And not every comparison needs to be between people of precisely equal stature. You're demanding something stupid because you can't refute anything i said.

#50 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 10:14 AM | Reply

Every president has been threatened with impeachment since Reagan. Not always a serious threat.

Impeachment is something to consider if Trump wins reelection.

The dems would have a hard time dealing with impeachment, then President Pence, running against him and taking the WH back.

Better strategy would be to just defeat Trump and move on. If that fails, then attempt to impeach him in his 2nd term.

#51 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-12 10:15 AM | Reply

-You're demanding something stupid because you can't refute anything i said.

He really just qualified what you said rather than refuting it.

#52 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-12 10:16 AM | Reply

Joe,

What I was doing was pointing out you were making a bad comparison. Comparing Pelosi's words with some fringe GOP rep from Texas makes no sense.

Again, this is what you wrote:

Considering the nonsense Republicans talked about impeaching Obama over, Pelosi should be praised for her restraint

You cited RepublicanB (plural) and then singled out Pelosi and then tried to make it seem like Republicans were extreme by comparison.

However, that completely melts away when we make the comparison apples/apples - Republicans talked about impeaching Obama, and in certain instances used some pretty stupid reasoning for it. Democrats (plural) not only have talked about impeaching Trump, even before he was sworn in, but have actually drafted articles of impeachment, more than once. This completely eviscerates any kind of props for "restraint".

Just acknowledge that it was a bad comparison and move on.

#53 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 10:33 AM | Reply

That bold and italics B is supposed to be an S in #53.

#54 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 10:33 AM | Reply

that completely melts away when we make the comparison apples/apples - Republicans talked about impeaching Obama, and in certain instances used some pretty stupid reasoning for it. Democrats (plural) not only have talked about impeaching Trump, even before he was sworn in, but have actually drafted articles of impeachment, more than once

You seem to be glossing over the fact that Trump likely deserves to be impeached. The comparison will never be "apples to apples" for that reason.

#55 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 10:36 AM | Reply

Impeachment is something to consider if Trump wins reelection.
The dems would have a hard time dealing with impeachment, then President Pence, running against him and taking the WH back.
Better strategy would be to just defeat Trump and move on. If that fails, then attempt to impeach him in his 2nd term.

#51 | POSTED BY EBERLY

Correct. Impeachment is a political process, not a legal one. Politically, the timing is really bad for Democrats. Not only is the timing bad, but according to polling, a majority of the country thinks Trump shouldn't be impeached. Pelosi is taking the smart road politically.

#56 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Pelosi is taking the smart road politically." - #56 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 10:53 AM

Yes she is. Which is why she's a great Speaker. And, as I said yesterday:

Nancy Pelosi on Trump: 'I'm not for impeachment.'

Good.

Impeachment (and sure acquittal by the Senate) creates a victim.

Getting voted out of office in November, 2020, creates a loser.

Which one does President Fat Clemenza prefer:

To campaign on being a snowflake victim; or,

To be called a loser for the rest of his life?

#11 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-11 06:12 PM

#57 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 10:57 AM | Reply

Donald Trump should be impeached for any number of offenses
-emoluments clause
-selling access to him
-advertising trump businesses
- not divesting himself from trump businesses
-admitting obstruction of justice on tv
-inviting Russian spies into the Oval Office

To name but a few
This is something the dems should be leading on not waiting on public opinion

Just another example of democratic lack of guts

Republicans stole a Supreme Court justice because dems won't do the right thing

#58 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:58 AM | Reply

Leaders lead and THAT is smart politically

If you think trumptilians wouldn't have impeached Obama if he had done a fraction of what trump has done you are a fool

I wish I was a republican only because if nothing else they have balls

#59 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 11:04 AM | Reply

I suppose it's better to argue whether some dems are anti semites

#60 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 11:05 AM | Reply

#57 | POSTED BY HANS

I have a strong dislike for Pelosi but freely acknowledge she's a VERY effective politician and leader for the Democratic Party.

She's a gifted tactician and she gets ---- done.

#61 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 11:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--She's a gifted tactician and she gets ---- done.

Like what? She couldn't even get a straightfoward denunciation of anti-semitism. I'm willing to bet she gets nothing accomplished other than launching investigations.

#62 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-12 11:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

She's a gifted tactician and she gets ---- done.
Like what?

Obamacare, she didn't even need to read it...

#63 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-12 11:18 AM | Reply

If you think trumptilians wouldn't have impeached Obama

I never thought of impeaching Obama, he was terrible to be sure. The amount of destruction him and that woman caused on the globe is immeasurable.

#64 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-12 11:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Obamacare, she didn't even need to read it...

#63 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

It was unpopular at the time - disapproval was more than 10 points higher than approval, yet she managed to drag it across the finish line anyway. For as much disdain as I have for much of ACA I still recognize the tremendous political achievement that it was getting it passed.

#65 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 11:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I still recognize the tremendous political achievement that it was getting it passed." - #65 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 11:28 AM

Yep.

And, as was predicted, even following the 2010 mid-term election, Obamacare has become part of the government services Americans expect.

#66 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 11:31 AM | Reply

Getting voted out of office in November, 2020, creates a loser.

I don't have the heart to tell you he's going to win again.

#67 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-03-12 11:32 AM | Reply

"The amount of destruction him and that woman caused on the globe is immeasurable." - #64 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-03-12 11:22 AM | Reply | Flag: Now Comes the Part Where We Throw Our Heads Back and Laugh!

#68 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 11:32 AM | Reply

--She's a gifted tactician and she gets ---- done.
---
Like what?

During the first 2 terms of Obama's presidency: ACA, Dodd-Frank, Stimulus, Cap and Trade (failed in the Senate, but passed in the House).

With similar political power dynamics what was Ryan able to accomplish during Trump's first 2 years: The new tax law.

Keep in mind that I like Ryan and dislike Pelosi. Nevertheless, their records speak for themselves.

#69 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 11:33 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I don't have the heart..." - #67 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-03-12 11:32 AM

Very believable.

"...he's going to win again."

You have zero idea what the political landscape will be like less than 19 months from now.

#70 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 11:34 AM | Reply

@67 even when he loses he will claim he won so there is that

#71 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 11:36 AM | Reply

You have zero idea what the political landscape will be like less than 19 months from now.

I know exactly what the democratic landscape will look like. Virtually identical to what it looked like in 2016. A pro-bank, pro-corporate garbage centrist nobody wants. That's why he's going to win again.

#72 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-03-12 11:50 AM | Reply

I know exactly what the democratic landscape will look like. Virtually identical to what it looked like in 2016. A pro-bank, pro-corporate garbage centrist nobody wants. That's why he's going to win again.

#72 | POSTED BY BENNY the Ruskie

How many rubles did Putin pay you to post that?

#73 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-03-12 12:10 PM | Reply

Shes positioning the argument that WHEN/if she brings impeachment to the floor of the house, that it is an incontrovertible and bipartisan necessity. She's trying to avoid some of the political traps that Dems have been falling into with Trump so far. Unless the senate can be compelled to convict, it's a pointless exercise with the potential to blowback. Impeachment is a political process, not a justice process.Let's just pretend for a moment that Madame speaker is kind of good at politics.

#74 | Posted by leadbelly at 2019-03-12 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- Let's just pretend for a moment that Madame speaker is kind of good at politics.

Damn good at it. She managed to corral her own circular firing squad Dems, and now she's playing the -------, and the press, like a fiddle.

#75 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-12 01:13 PM | Reply

Gee, it seems like only yesterday that I was arguing that Pelosi is The Boss and was getting shouted down by the Usual Idiots of the DR Left.

Good times.

#76 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-12 01:26 PM | Reply

"Pelosi wants to keep Trump in office so she can bludgeon the GOP with him in 2020"

because she is smarter than you

#77 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2019-03-12 01:51 PM | Reply

The Pelosi Concentrate: 1/2oz of mix and 16 gallons of water.
Maybe she can now focus on The 3 Stooges.

#78 | Posted by wisgod at 2019-03-12 01:57 PM | Reply

Maybe she can now focus on The 3 Stooges.

#78 | Posted by wisgod at 2019-03-12

Donald, Ivanka, and Jared.

#79 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-12 02:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Nothing gets by you, Father Time.

#80 | Posted by wisgod at 2019-03-12 02:08 PM | Reply

Maybe she'll...ah say, maybe she'll impeach them all and bring you pudding.

#81 | Posted by wisgod at 2019-03-12 02:10 PM | Reply

...he's just not worth it.

Narcissist trigger words.

#83 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-03-12 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nancy Pelosi on Trump: 'I'm Not for Impeachment'

TRANSLATION:

I'm not for law and order. It's just fine to leave a russian agent and con man in the white house.

#84 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 03:43 PM | Reply

Nancy Pelosi on Trump: 'I'm Not for Impeachment'
TRANSLATION:
I'm not for law and order. It's just fine to leave a russian agent and con man in the white house.

#84 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Impeachment is a political remedy, not a legal one.

nstead, Pelosi simply said, "He is not worth it." What she meant, as she implied elsewhere in the interview, is that impeachment is not worth it to her party. She knows the proceedings would soak up all of the House's time, dominate the media, and then fail in the Senate. Every Democratic presidential candidate would have to take a public stand on it, and the activist base would demand they support it.

Those stances might well be fatal in November 2020. Although impeachment is a big winner with Democratic primary voters, it's a big loser with the larger electorate. Before turning an elected president out of office, most voters want clear and convincing evidence of "high crimes and misdemeanors." Pelosi knows that, and she knows the Republicans lost public support when they tried to impeach Bill Clinton for lying under oath. She lived through that (she was elected to Congress in 1987), and she learned from it.

Why did Pelosi make her statement now? For two reasons: To get ahead of the Mueller report and to regain control of her caucus.


www.realclearpolitics.com

#85 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 03:46 PM | Reply

TRANSLATION:
I'm not for law and order. It's just fine to leave a russian agent and con man in the white house.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-03-12 03:43 PM | REPLY

I told you she would give up the house and the barn too. She's one of them and Democrats are duped by her charade.

#86 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-12 03:53 PM | Reply

#85 | Posted by JeffJ

We have to impeach him before we can prosecute him.

#87 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 03:54 PM | Reply

I understand that. Again, unless Mueller has some bombshell in his report (unlikely), the political will and public mood simply isn't there for impeachment.

Democrats are better served trying to beat him at the ballot box in 2020. Pelosi knows this which is why she's taking this stance.

#88 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 04:02 PM | Reply

When Republicans impeached Bill Clinton, his popularity increased. We don't want the same thing to happen to Trump. If the House impeaches Trump, we need to be sure there is enough evidence against him to convince a majority of the public that impeachment was called for even if the Senate should whim out and not convict him. We're not there yet.

#89 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-12 04:04 PM | Reply

Wisgod: You should avoid using terms here that come straight out of the most vile racist parts of the Internet.

You should also avoid blaming Obama for a phone program that Reagan began.

#90 | Posted by rcade at 2019-03-12 04:08 PM | Reply

-You should also avoid blaming Obama for a phone program that Reagan began.

tell her....

www.google.com

sorry...it never gets old.

#91 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-12 04:21 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Democrats are better served trying to beat him at the ballot box in 2020. Pelosi knows this which is why she's taking this stance.

#88 | Posted by JeffJ

It's not one or the other. You have to do both. Try to impeach - which will fail because repubs are traitors and morons, but get them on record as being traitors and morons for the history books - then beat him at the ballot box.

I understand you want to avoid impeachment because it will hurt repubs narratives, and make them spend their airtime defending trump instead of spewing their fake talking points about mexicans and muslims or whatever.

#92 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 04:25 PM | Reply

Rcade,

Are you talking about the pudding comment? I thought it was a nod to Another Brick in the Wall (Part II).

#93 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 04:26 PM | Reply

#92 | POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY

Have you ever played Chess?

You'd make a terrible political strategist.

#94 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 04:30 PM | Reply

I understand you want to avoid impeachment because it will hurt repubs narratives,

Impeachment would be a political boon to the GOP, which is why Pelosi took it off the table.

#95 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 04:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#94

Shreek has always struck me as a checkers kind of guy...and not very good at it either.

#96 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-12 04:33 PM | Reply

I don't think she ruled it out entirely. If anything this statement would allow her to say, upon seeing the Mueller report, that even she, someone who was against impeachment, is now for it because of how disgraceful the findings of fact in the report are.

#97 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 04:35 PM | Reply

Shreek has always struck me as a checkers kind of guy...and not very good at it either.

#96 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

We have a checker board that has mini shot glasses for the checker pieces. He might be good on that board.

#98 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 04:35 PM | Reply

#97 Agreed, Joe.

She left the door cracked open pending the Mueller report.

#99 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 04:36 PM | Reply

Impeachment would be a political boon to the GOP, which is why Pelosi took it off the table.
#95 | Posted by JeffJ

Impeachment now will look awfully attractive in hindsight if Trump wins reelection.

But hey, who says the trumptilians won't lie, cheat and steal the 2020 election too.

#100 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 04:49 PM | Reply

Have you ever played Chess?

You'd make a terrible political strategist.

#94 | Posted by JeffJ

You think there's no political gain from putting making repubs defend this con man and traitor?

From filling the news cycle with his crimes and their weak ass defenses of them?

#101 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 05:03 PM | Reply

They need to impeach for their own credibility. And for their place in history. Otherwise they will go down as the party that didn't try to impeach the most criminal president we've ever had, just like repubs will go down as the party that completely sold out the most criminal president we've ever had.

#102 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 05:08 PM | Reply

If you value the Constitution you HAVE to impeach. No other option available to you.

#103 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-12 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#102 I agree, but we all know the Republican Senate will never impeach, and in the process we make Trump a victim and increase his chances of winning in 2020. To me the #1 goal is to get that POS out of office, and due to the malapportioned Senate impeachment isn't going to make that happen.

#104 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-12 05:18 PM | Reply

Paint the GoP as defenders of a traitorous criminal Whitehouse. She knows the GoP Senate will protect the criminal in chief. Use that next election cycle after Mueller's report is leaked.

#15 | Posted by bored

Dude, Pelosi just said that didn't work. She knows Trump is not a criminal traitor. This is news -- now you do, too, but you want to double down.

*doh*

#105 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 05:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The House impeaches, the Senate convicts or acquits, by a 2/3 majority.

Impeachment, in and of itself, is not useful. The trial in the Senate is.

What the Democrats have committed to, IMO, is making sure that impeachment is used for a just cause - not like the Republicans used it as part of their clown show pageantry with Bill Clinton.

The miscalculation by Pelosi and those who agree with her is, simply, that Republicans are traitors and their base lives in an alternate reality altogether. Why try to convict one of yours if you can make it look like the other side is just playing politics? They have lied and gaslighted their way throughout, successfully railroading their agenda through without any real accountability. There will be no bipartisan agreement to hold Drumpf accountable, because they would have to admit they've been complicit all along. That's not going to happen.

#106 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-03-12 05:31 PM | Reply

#105 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

The probability of Trump being a criminal traitor is extremely low; the probability of Trump being a criminal is extremely high.

#107 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-12 05:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rusty --

Nancy just told you. There's nothing. This is news to you.

You've got to know when to hold up. This is not news to you.

youtu.be

*blorp*

#108 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 05:54 PM | Reply

If you value the Constitution you HAVE to impeach. No other option available to you.

#103 | Posted by LauraMohr

LOL

State your case.

#109 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 06:03 PM | Reply

the tremendous political achievement that Obamacare was getting it passed.

#65 | Posted by JeffJ

Single biggest squandering of political capital in the Obama administration.

#110 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 06:06 PM | Reply

I just read that Pelosi just Pooh-poohed M4A.

That's going to go over real well the base.

#111 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 06:34 PM | Reply

#110 Notch,

Yes, they paid a huge price for it.

#112 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 06:35 PM | Reply

The probability of Trump being a criminal traitor is extremely low; the probability of Trump being a criminal is extremely high.
#107 | POSTED BY RSTYBEACH11

He's asolutely a traitor. Everyone that chooses to put (R) next to their name is.

#113 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-12 06:44 PM | Reply

Nancy just told you. There's nothing.

That's not what she said.

Perhaps you should stop diddling kids and pay attention.

#114 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-12 06:52 PM | Reply

What? Huh?

#115 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 07:16 PM | Reply

-------------, read my #58. The case for impeaching the orange fecal matter is easy.

Example

China gave Trump 38 provisional trademark approvals. That is de facto payment to Trump. Since he refused to divest himself from his ownership of his businesses that makes it contrary to the Constitution.

#116 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 07:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Nancy just told you. There's nothing.

#108 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

haha yeah. Tons of people lie under oath to cover up NOTHING.

#117 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 07:33 PM | Reply

China gave Trump 38 provisional trademark approvals. That is de facto payment to Trump. Since he refused to divest himself from his ownership of his businesses that makes it contrary to the Constitution.

#116 | Posted by truthhurts

That's it?

#118 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 08:14 PM | Reply

That's it?

#118 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Imagine obama did it. Or hillary. IMPEACH!

#119 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 08:51 PM | Reply

Imagine obama did it.

They all imagined Obama was a Kenyan Muslim sent to take away their guns and invade Texas.

Republicans are absolute morons. All of them.

The only good Republican is a dead Republican.

May ass cancer kill them all.

#120 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-12 09:02 PM | Reply

You fellas are ill tempered and rude.

#121 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:08 PM | Reply

That's it?
#118 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

I'm sorry, but either you're too stupid to understand or to immoral to care. Which is it?

#122 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You fellas are ill tempered and rude.
#121 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Your fella mocks the handicapped.

#123 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

120

Atta boy, Clown.

Let ‘em have it!!

#124 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-12 09:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

120
Atta boy, Clown.
Let ‘em have it!!
#124 | Posted by eberly

Republicans have demonstrated their immunity to facts so mocking is all that is left.

#125 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Uncouth mother -------.

#126 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:22 PM | Reply

you're too stupid to understand or to immoral to care. Which is it?

#122 | Posted by truthhurts

Presenting yourself as a cad is not a very persuasive position. When you are prepared for civil discourse I may engage you further.

#127 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:27 PM | Reply

Your fella mocks the handicapped.

#123 | Posted by truthhurts

Does he, though?

Bless your heart.

#128 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:30 PM | Reply

Nancy just told you. There's nothing. This is news to you.
You've got to know when to hold up. This is not news to you.
youtu.be
*blorp*
#108 | POSTED BY DIXVILLENOTCH

Traitorous, no. Agree with Nancy P.

Criminal, yes. Agree with SDNY (*prediction).

#129 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-03-12 09:33 PM | Reply

Best of luck, RSTY.

#130 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:34 PM | Reply

www.youtube.com

#123 | Posted by truthhurts
Does he, though?
Bless your heart.
#128 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Now you have been informed.

If you can demonstrate that you are not immune to facts, I will consider having a civil discourse with you. If you remain immune to facts, then, well prepare to be mocked as anything else is a pointless waste of time.

#131 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Mock me no further. I registered the fact that Trump trademarked his name in China.

Pardon my surprise at your profound discontent.

#132 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:38 PM | Reply

Uncouth mother -------.

#126 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Problem with supporting trump is you can no longer complain about anyone being uncouth or uncivil. You are on record as supporting this behavior in your cult leader.

#133 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 09:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why do you think Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff told you the news that they lack evidence and bipartisan support required to make impeaching Trump a worthwhile endeavor?

#134 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:41 PM | Reply

You are on record as supporting this behavior in your cult leader.

#133 | Posted by SpeakSoftly

Surely, you are not referring to my permanent record.

#135 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:43 PM | Reply

Perhaps you are uninformed regarding my opinion on President Donald Trump.

Let me make this perfectly clear.

I believe Donald Trump is the epitome of all that is wrong with the human condition.

I believe he is mentally ill.

I believe he is narcissistic, vain, vile, greedy, selfish, and mean-spirited.

I believe he is corrupt, incompetent and disinterested in learning.

I believe he is a racist and misogynist.

I believe Donald Trump is uniquely unqualified to be President.

I believe Donald Trump has committed numerous crimes both before and after becoming President.

I believe Donald Trump has sexually assaulted women.

I believe Donald Trump violated women's privacy, including children.

I believe Donald Trump is a traitor because he is beholden to Russian monetary interests.

I further believe that Donald Trump poses a threat to America.

I believe Donald Trump willingly and knowingly colluded with Russian agents with regards to the 2016 election.

I believe that anyone who supports Donald Trump is either ignorant or immoral.

I also believe that we have not seen the worst of Donald Trump yet.

Oh, and btw, I have followed Donald Trump's career since 1988 when he spoke at my college graduation. He was a no-class scumbag then and is a no-class scumbag now.

#136 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Have you sought counseling? I fear your dark anger is consuming the best of you.

#137 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:48 PM | Reply

Why do you think Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff told you the news that they lack evidence and bipartisan support required to make impeaching Trump a worthwhile endeavor?
#134 | Posted by DixvilleNotch a

I think it is a political move and a mistake. Reread the thread to see more on my opinion on Pelosi's comments.

I get the political aspect, but sooner or later you need to take a stand.

Pelosi believes the democrats will win the presidency in 2020 and can use Trump as a tool to hurt Republicans. I fear Trump will be reelected-either fairly or unfairly and the opportunity to remove this --------- from public office will pass and Trump will damage our country for another 4 years (6 from today).

#138 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Have you sought counseling? I fear your dark anger is consuming the best of you.
#137 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

I spent 8 years at peace with Obama in control. I worry when my teenage daughter gets upset that a sexual predator is President.

#139 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:50 PM | Reply

Have you sought counseling? I fear your dark anger is consuming the best of you.
#137 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Not one legitimate argument has ever been given that refutes any of my beliefs.

#140 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:52 PM | Reply

I worry when my teenage daughter gets upset that a sexual predator is President.

#139 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

Thankfully the Clinton years occurred before she was born.

#141 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 09:52 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

- I'm sorry, but either you're too stupid to understand or to immoral to care. Which is it?

- Nancy just told you. There's nothing.

He's both.

What she said was that she won't consider impeachment until there is compelling evidence, which there may well be after the Report.

Of course, outsmarting Dicks is a low bar for anyone, much less her.

#142 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-12 09:54 PM | Reply

You are correct -- 6 more years from today. You would benefit from re-gripping yourself, more loosely in the very near future.

Your colleagues posting alongside you in this yellow dog cesspool, I believe, are dragging you down, like crabs in a boiling pot.

Perhaps you can reimagine yourself. I usually pay your snide comments little heed, but will focus intently to see if you can find your way to the light.

#143 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 09:56 PM | Reply

Thankfully the Clinton years occurred before she was born.
#141 | Posted by JeffJ

Whatabout J. Deflecticon shows up, right on cue.

Of course, having an affair is less troubling than walking in on naked teenage beauty pageant contestants.

And at least Clinton waited for the amniotic fluid to dry from his child's birth before banging a porn star.

#144 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 09:59 PM | Reply

(You really should stay away from threads with Corky. He's a downer. He pretends he plonks me, like it is a badge of honor to be so fragile, but he "mistakenly" sometimes gets exposed to pleasant truths while not logged in on a second browser. Sad clown.)

#145 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:01 PM | Reply

You are correct -- 6 more years from today. You would benefit from re-gripping yourself, more loosely in the very near future.
Your colleagues posting alongside you in this yellow dog cesspool, I believe, are dragging you down, like crabs in a boiling pot.
Perhaps you can reimagine yourself. I usually pay your snide comments little heed, but will focus intently to see if you can find your way to the light.
#143 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Your patronizing is boring, son.

#146 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:01 PM | Reply

Surely, you are not referring to my permanent record.

#135 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

No I'm referring to the cult you joined led by an uncouth man. By doing so, you threw away your ability to claim to care about people being rude or uncouth.

#147 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-12 10:02 PM | Reply

You wouldn't know truth if you found it banging your wife.

#148 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:03 PM | Reply

Of course, having an affair is less troubling than walking in on naked teenage beauty pageant contestants.

Pay no attention to the 26 times he flew on Epstein's Lolita Express, that isn't troubling at all.

#149 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-12 10:05 PM | Reply

THHURTS -- you chase your own tail at a dizzying pace. Breathe a little. It will be ok. SDNY may indeed deliver the grail you think you seek, but in the meantime be a man about it. (Can one still say that here? Oh well, ---- to the wind!) And beware that the grail may not work they way you imagine. Have you seen the Indiana Jones with Sean Connery as his father? Life lesson, right there, and a darn entertaining one at that.

#150 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:05 PM | Reply

dix, do yourself a favor

en.wikipedia.org

#151 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:06 PM | Reply

You wouldn't know truth if you found it banging your wife.

#148 | Posted by truthhurts

Good God, man! Will you please stop!

#152 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:06 PM | Reply

#151 I admire you for your perceived sense of clarity.

#153 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:08 PM | Reply

The one where Sean Connery says "It tells me goose stepping morons like yourself should try reading books instead of burning them"

he could be talking about trumptilian willful ignorance.

oh and again shove your patronizing up your ass

#154 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:10 PM | Reply

Here's an interesting test. You must chose one:

You have a 13 year old daughter, and you must have a babysitter for the evening.

Do you chose:

1. Michael Jackson
2. Bill Clinton
3. Donald Trump

#155 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 10:10 PM | Reply

#151 I admire you for your perceived sense of clarity.
#153 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

I find nothing to admire in you, but hey I haven't known you too long, perhaps you like dogs.

#156 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:11 PM | Reply

Easy, Michael Jackson, he's dead.

#157 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:11 PM | Reply

Neither dogs nor cats fancy me.

Your are a hard hearted soul. Have you any friends nearby?

#158 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:13 PM | Reply

"Easy, Michael Jackson, he's dead." - #157 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:11 PM

Which means then there's only two choices to babysit your 13 year old daughter:

1. Bill Clinton
2. Donald Trump

#159 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 10:14 PM | Reply

Neither dogs nor cats fancy me.
Your are a hard hearted soul. Have you any friends nearby?
#158 | Posted by DixvilleNotch

Of course. There is something fundamentally wrong with a person who doesn't like dogs, or even cats.

Age has rendered me less interested in suffering fools.

#160 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Easy, Michael Jackson, he's dead." - #157 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:11 PM
Which means then there's only two choices to babysit your 13 year old daughter:
1. Bill Clinton
2. Donald Trump
#159 | Posted by Hans

I'd rather have my daughter spend the night in a cemetery. But second choice would go to Clinton I suppose.

#161 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:16 PM | Reply

of course, what is so important that I have to leave my 13 year old daughter with one of those reprobates?

#162 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:16 PM | Reply

Eesh!

You guys are getting macabre.

#163 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 10:18 PM | Reply

The one where Sean Connery says "It tells me goose stepping morons like yourself should try reading books instead of burning them"
he could be talking about trumptilian willful ignorance.
oh and again shove your patronizing up your ass

#154 | Posted by truthhurts

Progress at last! One piece at a time:

First sentence: Yes, that's the one! Its as if you just watched it yesterday!

Second sentence: My ignorance is not willful. I am doing my very best.

Third sentence: Very hostile. You may be banned or at least suspended for treating a fellow Retorter so. Just refrain from expressing these thoughts and we will get along fine.

#164 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:18 PM | Reply

After the debacle with Tim Cook, I wouldn't believe the President if he told me his name was Donald Trump.

#165 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:19 PM | Reply

Do you chose:
1. Michael Jackson
2. Bill Clinton
3. Donald Trump

#155 | POSTED BY HANS AT 2019-03-12 10:10 PM

Michael, since he really didn't like girls.

#166 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-12 10:19 PM | Reply

Will you acknowledge Trump mocked a disabled person?

Cause if not, and I showed you the proof, you will fall into the willfully ignorant camp.

#167 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:21 PM | Reply

oh and let me worry about the moderation.

And for the 3rd time, stop patronizing.

#168 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:22 PM | Reply

"You have a 13 year old daughter, and you must have a babysitter for the evening.
Do you chose:
1. Michael Jackson
2. Bill Clinton
3. Donald Trump"

MJ all the way.
MJ liked boys, not girls.

#169 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 10:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

There is something fundamentally wrong with a person who doesn't like dogs, or even cats.

#160 | Posted by truthhurts

You misread my statement. Your sense of fundamental wrongs is misdirected.

Does your mother read your posts? I find that a good guideline to keep in mind. You are in public afterall.

#170 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:23 PM | Reply

"I'd rather have my daughter spend the night in a cemetery. But second choice would go to Clinton I suppose." - #161 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:16 PM

At least Clinton never expressed an interest in his daughter.

Or anyone below the age of consent, for that matter.

And Michael Jackson would have been completely safe with your 13 year old daughter, for two reasons:

1. Wrong sex; and,
2. Too old.
Meanwhile...
9 Donald Trump Quotes About Ivanka That Are Super Uncomfortable

#171 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 10:24 PM | Reply

oh and let me worry about the moderation.

#168 | Posted by truthhurts

I can tell you it is very fickle.

#172 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:24 PM | Reply

And, this: It is not patronizing to see an obviously wounded spirit and reach out to help. It's not charity I'm offering you the milk of human kindness. My milk. We are in this together, buddy.

#173 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:26 PM | Reply

Gotta run.

Head for the light!

#174 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:28 PM | Reply

"MJ liked boys, not girls." - #169 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 10:23 PM

If you want a horrifying but illuminating experience, watch HBO's Leaving Neverland.

Makes Bill Cosby seem "quaint" in comparison.

#175 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 10:29 PM | Reply

and I can tell you I have been banned twice and both times Rcade and I quickly reached an agreement where I was reinstated within 24 hours, so again your comments on moderation vis a vis me are unwelcome.

as for the cats and dogs thing, I do apologize, I misread and made a mistake there.

BUT

if the dogs and cats don't fancy you, well that could indicate a lack of character on your part-dogs especially are pretty good judges of character.

If it is allergies, well I feel pity for you,

#176 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:29 PM | Reply

And, this: It is not patronizing to see an obviously wounded spirit and reach out to help. It's not charity I'm offering you the milk of human kindness. My milk. We are in this together, buddy.
#173 | Posted by DixvilleNotch a

You would do better to reject Trump and all his lies. You would sleep better at night. Assuming you have a conscience.

#177 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-12 10:30 PM | Reply

"if the dogs and cats don't fancy you, well that could indicate a lack of character on your part-dogs especially are pretty good judges of character."

isitfunnyoroffensive.com

#178 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 10:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Will you acknowledge Trump mocked a disabled person?

Cause if not, and I showed you the proof, you will fall into the willfully ignorant camp.

#167 | Posted by truthhurts

In this clip, the President actually mocks disabled people in general, not just one person:

youtu.be

Doesn't make me ignorant if I think it is just a common, funny way people interact. And no grounds for impeachment.

So it goes.

#179 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:34 PM | Reply

isitfunnyoroffensive.com - #178 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 10:31 PM

Trump doesn't have a dog (or cat).

Trump never laughs.

Trump orders his steaks burnt and well done throughout, then smothered in catsup.

Offensive.

#180 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 10:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You fellas need to get out more. A 21 day suspension might save your lives. You, do things.

#181 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:39 PM | Reply

"In this clip, the President actually mocks disabled people in general, not just one person" - #179 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:34 PM

No he doesn't.

Meanwhile...

Trump mocks reporter with disability

#182 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 10:40 PM | Reply

There is something fundamentally wrong with a person who doesn't like dogs, or even cats.
Age has rendered me less interested in suffering fools.

#160 | Posted by truthhurts

There is something fundamentally wrong with someone who is "less interested in suffering fools" yet spends hours and hours, day after day, week after week, dreaming of impeachment. Think about it.

*lets cat in*

#183 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:41 PM | Reply

I'd love to split the same goddam hair with you for another 6 years, folks, but I've got loved ones yearning for me.

Ciao!

#184 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:44 PM | Reply

You can come out now, Corky. It's safe!

#185 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:46 PM | Reply

"...but I've got loved ones yearning for me." - #184 | Posted by DixvilleNotch at 2019-03-12 10:44 PM

Your loved ones?

Your family tree must be a cactus because everybody on it is a -----.

#186 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-12 10:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Oh, and btw, I have followed Donald Trump's career since 1988 "

Why?

#187 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-12 11:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Republicans have demonstrated their immunity to facts so mocking is all that is left.

#125 | POSTED BY TWOOTHYHURTS

save your faux outrage, boy.

#188 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-12 11:15 PM | Reply

If you want a horrifying but illuminating experience, watch HBO's Leaving Neverland...

#175 | POSTED BY HANS

I remember reading about some of it 20 years ago. It was horrifying back then and undoubtedly many more lurid details are in the HBO Documentary. When I first read about his predations I made a proclamation: I don't listen to pedophiles. So, every time Billy Jean or Beat It would be played on a radio station, I'd change the channel and cite my reason why, even if I was by myself.

#189 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-13 02:21 AM | Reply

Impeachment is a process. Gather the evidence for impeachment and if warranted, proceed to impeachment. Dems are in the evidence gathering stage. A major part of that evidence will be the Mueller report. Once it becomes available and has been thoroughly analyzed, a clearer path forward will emerge.

My problem with Pelosi's comment suggests that she is ideological predisposed to not favor impeachment because it will divide the country. Duh! The country is already divided and the lying POS in the Whitehouse is doing the dividing. I also get the impression from her statement that she cares about what republicans think. F them. If the evidence rises to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, impeach the SOB. Have some faith in the American people that they will hold accountable any politician that fails to impeach/convict in spite of compelling evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors. If they don't, America is beyond redemption.

#190 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2019-03-13 06:46 AM | Reply

Let me make this perfectly clear.
I believe Donald Trump is the epitome of all that is wrong with the human condition.
I believe he is mentally ill.
I believe he is narcissistic, vain, vile, greedy, selfish, and mean-spirited.
I believe he is corrupt, incompetent and disinterested in learning.
I believe he is a racist and misogynist.
I believe Donald Trump is uniquely unqualified to be President.
I believe Donald Trump has committed numerous crimes both before and after becoming President.
I believe Donald Trump has sexually assaulted women.
I believe Donald Trump violated women's privacy, including children.
I believe Donald Trump is a traitor because he is beholden to Russian monetary interests.
I further believe that Donald Trump poses a threat to America.
I believe Donald Trump willingly and knowingly colluded with Russian agents with regards to the 2016 election.
I believe that anyone who supports Donald Trump is either ignorant or immoral.
I also believe that we have not seen the worst of Donald Trump yet.
Oh, and btw, I have followed Donald Trump's career since 1988 when he spoke at my college graduation. He was a no-class scumbag then and is a no-class scumbag now.
#136 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2019-03-12 09:45 PM | REPLY | NEWSWORTHY 1

Well said. The fact that so many people support and defend him despite all of the above is sickening.

#191 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-13 08:06 AM | Reply

mad max will not be pleased...

#192 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2019-03-13 01:18 PM | Reply

Yep.

The narrative, shared by President Vladimir Putin, his top lieutenants and state television, is strikingly similar to U.S. President Donald Trump's description of the investigation as a "witch hunt:" They say the whole process is about the Democrats' stubborn refusal to admit that they lost the election.

"They don't want to acknowledge his victory and do everything to delegitimize the president," Putin said at his annual news conference in December.

Mueller has been looking into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia and whether the president obstructed the investigation.

Trump has been widely criticized for failing to publicly denounce Russia's interference in the 2016 U.S. election and appearing to accept Putin's denials of such activity. Trump's relationship with Putin has long been the source of intrigue, both at home and in world capitals. He has repeatedly praised his authoritarian peer while straining ties with many of Washington's closest allies.

In one indictment, Mueller has accused Russia's military intelligence agency GRU of hacking into the Democratic campaign and releasing the stolen emails through WikiLeaks. Another has charged employees of a Russian troll farm allegedly controlled by Yevgeny Prigozhin, a businessman dubbed "Putin's chef" for his ties to the Kremlin, with spreading disinformation on social media in a bid to bolster support for Trump and disparage his rival, Hillary Clinton.

The Kremlin has rejected those charges.

Last week, Russian state television stations jumped at the relatively mild sentence handed to former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort as proof that Mueller's investigations have failed to hit their target.

"The mountain gave birth to a mouse," the state-controlled Rossiya television snapped while reporting on Manafort, who was sentenced to nearly four years in prison for tax and bank fraud related to his work advising Ukrainian politicians -- much less than what was called for under sentencing guidelines.

Another state-controlled nationwide channel, NTV, described the sentence as a blow to Mueller. "It was a slap in the face for special counsel Robert Mueller and his investigation into the Russian collusion that has found no collusion whatsoever," it said.

#193 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2019-03-13 01:21 PM | Reply

"The narrative, shared by President Vladimir Putin, his top lieutenants and state television..." - #193 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2019-03-13 01:21 PM

It is more than just a little telling that your go-to source for validation is the former chief of the KGB and his state-run media.

Have you no patriotic pride in the United States of America?

#194 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-13 01:44 PM | Reply

Nancy Pelosi on Trump: 'I'm Not for Impeachment'

She wants to go straight to the Tar and Feather option. Atagirl.

#195 | Posted by CrisisStills at 2019-03-13 01:48 PM | Reply

Have you no patriotic pride in the United States of America?

www.youtube.com

COMRADE TRUMP 2020

#196 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2019-03-13 02:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

she's toast.
www.garlicandgrass.org

#197 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-13 03:19 PM | Reply

Garlic and Grass huh?

Sounds like an ideal way to gauge the pulse of the Democrat nation.

Maybe you should see what the ones who actually work think.

#198 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-03-13 05:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Well said. The fact that so many people support and defend him despite all of the above is sickening."

Right now, the Dems appear to obessed with offering a Trump of their own, as opposed to throwing in for a candidate that maybe won't drive off every voter this side of Chairman Mao.

#199 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-03-13 05:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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