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Monday, March 11, 2019

With the first contests unfolding next year in South Carolina, Iowa and New Hampshire, small-town voters will play a critical role in not only choosing the next Democratic nominee but perhaps the next President. And the early attention could help the eventual nominee on rural issues and compete for votes in places that gave President Trump his most intense support in 2016.

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At least someone is trying to learn from Mrs. Clinton's failures.

#1 | Posted by leftcoastlawyer at 2019-03-11 11:56 AM | Reply

This has been my advice for the DNC since 2016.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-11 12:25 PM | Reply

-That could flip states like Iowa, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina -- even Florida -- that propelled Trump to an Electoral College majority.

good

#3 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-11 12:30 PM | Reply

They just chose Wisconsin for the Dem Convention.

= Mrs. Clinton's failures.

Yep, 77,000 votes over 3 Rust Belt states, a fraction of a fraction of a percent. One of the biggest failures in election history ever to hear some people tell about it.

And those voters said it was because she was too far left for their comfort.

#4 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 01:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"And those voters said it was because she was too far left for their comfort."

Should probably ask them where they got their information from.

#5 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-03-11 01:14 PM | Reply

What they said was that Bernie had pushed her too far left... which is prolly what Fox News told them... although most news was saying that was what was happening.

#6 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 01:16 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Should probably ask them where they got their information from.

#5 | POSTED BY HAGBARD_CELINE AT 2019-03-11 01:14 PM

I agree, if she have just talked to them, at all, they might have overcome their discomfort with her and turned the tide. But she didn't, thinking that because she had NY and CA locked up she had it in the bag.

Clearly Booker, Harris, Warren and Sanders realize that was a massive fcck up by Abuela, even if Corky refuses to acknowledge it.

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-11 01:20 PM | Reply

- if she have just talked to them, at all,

That's just another myth.

fivethirtyeight.com

#8 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 01:31 PM | Reply

lol... the way I know I'm right is Pauncy P. is flagging my posts funny.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 01:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#8

Even Nate Silver agrees that Hillary's campaign (and his own projections) fccked up, he is just Monday Morning Quarterbacking trying to figure out how it went so horribly wrong.

#10 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-03-11 01:39 PM | Reply

#10 |

His headline is, Clinton's Ground Game Didn't Cost Her The Election.... which is what happened.

And he has no need for 20/20 hindsight:

Why FiveThirtyEight Gave Trump A Better Chance Than Almost Anyone Else

fivethirtyeight.com

#11 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 01:42 PM | Reply

Yeah... she won the popular vote, and lost the electoral college by a slim number of actual voters, all while both the FBI and Russia were doing their best to tilt the election away from her.

Massive failure. Sure.

#12 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-03-11 01:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

I fully believe that if she and skipped a couple of fund raisers in Hollywood to visit Wisconsin she would have won.

#13 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-03-11 01:48 PM | Reply

#13

Which means in is almost certainly not true... you being almost a perfect reverse barometer of reality.

#14 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 01:56 PM | Reply

Dems should really campaign on robo calls. Everyone hates robocalls and they have skyrocketed under trump's FCC because trump's FCC is run by a corporate puppet.

(Yes I watched last week tonite last night)

#15 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-11 01:58 PM | Reply

I fully believe that if she and skipped a couple of fund raisers in Hollywood to visit Wisconsin she would have won.

#13 | Posted by visitor_

That means you think people would have been convinced to vote for hillary by seeing her give her speeches on the local news instead of on the national news. Or maybe they'd even go see the speech in person. But it's still the same candidate selling the same message.

I dont know what kind of idiot changes their mind just because they hear something live instead of on tv.

#16 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-11 01:59 PM | Reply

Rhetoric that I think could improve the rural voter opinion of Democrats (in no particular order):

Pro-family farm
Pro-public lands and outdoor recreation, including fishing and hunting
Pro-Veterans
Infrastructure and broadband upgrades for rural areas
Natural resource jobs that balance environmental sustainability and manufacturing (e.g., forestry)
State's rights
Reducing the national debt
Not afraid to be critical of the far-left

The candidate should be a veteran, farmer, or have blue collar experience. No hypocrisy is also important. And the whole beer and a bbq thing, and they hunt wild game. White and male is a definite plus, but if he/she was a minority and did these things the whole white-male thing would matter less.

#17 | Posted by horstngraben at 2019-03-11 02:00 PM | Reply

Speaksoftly, I hope you have some influence and share your thoughts and insights with the DNC.

#18 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-03-11 02:33 PM | Reply

Speaksoftly, I hope you have some influence and share your thoughts and insights with the DNC.

#18 | Posted by visitor_

The DNC doesn't listen to me. THey'll spend the next year trying to jam biden or harris down our throats. Anything to avoid upsetting the plutocracy.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-11 02:44 PM | Reply

Yeah... she won the popular vote, and lost the electoral college by a slim number of actual voters, all while both the FBI and Russia were doing their best to tilt the election away from her.
Massive failure. Sure.

#12 | POSTED BY GTBRITISHSKULL AT 2019-03-11 01:43 PM | FLAG:

Just because it's a very good point.

#20 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-03-11 02:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- The DNC doesn't listen to me.

No, they listen to Dem voters.

www.drudge.com

#21 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 02:51 PM | Reply

- The DNC doesn't listen to me.

No, they listen to Dem voters.

www.drudge.com

#21 | Posted by Corky

Sure they do. The DNC isn't after big donors at all. Nope. They just want a fair contest. Yup that's it.

#22 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-11 03:18 PM | Reply

#22 |

Poll Denial, a Puridopian thing.

#23 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 03:21 PM | Reply

Poll Denial, a Puridopian thing.

#23 | Posted by Corky

Cling to those polls cork. Worked out great last time.

#24 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-03-11 04:07 PM | Reply

Cling to those polls cork. Worked out great last time.

POSTED BY SPEAKSOFTLY AT 2019-03-11 04:07 PM | REPLY

He is regurgitating 2016 talking points. He hasn't learnt a damned thing. Not one damned thing.

#25 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-11 04:11 PM | Reply

He is regurgitating 2016 talking points. He hasn't learnt a damned thing. Not one damned thing.

Well, what do you think Ms. Kansas?

#26 | Posted by horstngraben at 2019-03-11 04:46 PM | Reply

Dems making rural inroads while repubs are still making rural inbreds.

#27 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-11 05:24 PM | Reply

Dems making rural inroads while repubs are still making rural inbreds.

~ The spirit of 2020

#28 | Posted by horstngraben at 2019-03-11 05:48 PM | Reply

Don't forget the hot sauce.

#29 | Posted by SheepleSchism at 2019-03-11 06:18 PM | Reply

Pro-family farm
Pro-public lands and outdoor recreation, including fishing and hunting
Pro-Veterans
Infrastructure and broadband upgrades for rural areas
Natural resource jobs that balance environmental sustainability and manufacturing (e.g., forestry)
State's rights
Reducing the national debt
Not afraid to be critical of the far-left
#17 | POSTED BY HORSTNGRABEN

According to the Repubs, most of what you listed is "far-left". Their strategy is to label every Democratic candidate and policy as "far-left" and "socialist" no matter what it is.

#30 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-03-11 07:00 PM | Reply

- Cling to those polls.... Worked out great last time.

And here I thought rwingers were the reality deniers....

"December 19, 2018

At this point in 2014, when 2016 primary polling was gearing up, Donald Trump hadn't declared himself as running for president and wasn't being included in any primary surveys. However, that is the only example of a time that the ultimate nominee for a main party hasn't been in the top five of early polls taken since 1996.

In fact, every cycle except for the 2016 Republican primary and the 2004 Democratic primary had the eventual party nominee in the top three for their party at this point.

To put it another way, in open primaries where there is no incumbent since 1996, the candidate who went on to win their primary was in the top three of an aggregate of polls taken between November (post-election) and January (two years before the election) 7 out of 9 times."

www.cnn.com

- hasn't learnt a damned thing. Not one damned thing.

True, you obviously have not.

#31 | Posted by Corky at 2019-03-11 09:18 PM | Reply

Yep, 77,000 votes over 3 Rust Belt states, a fraction of a fraction of a percent. One of the biggest failures in election history ever to hear some people tell about it.

You're commenting as if there was 100% voter turnout. Yeah, maybe she couldn't swing those 77,000 to vote for her, but she could have convinced another 78,000 to vote for her.

Would have been minuscule in the big picture, no? Just a fraction of a fraction of effort, no?

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-11 10:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

22 |

Poll Denial, a Puridopian thing.

#23 | POSTED BY CORKY

You deny Rasmussen, but want us to accept your single poll as gospel?

Try doing the consistent thing. It'll help you out tremendously.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-11 10:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Don't forget the hot sauce.

#29 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Finally dropped the nobiasposter nonsense?

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-11 10:43 PM | Reply

#29 | POSTED BY SHEEPLESCHISM

Finally dropped the nobiasposter nonsense?

#34 | POSTED BY JPW

I'm pretty good at sniffing out sock puppets. I'm pretty sure Nobias is not a Sheeple sock puppet. They have a couple of key differences in style along with a couple of ideological differences.

#35 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-11 10:46 PM | Reply

What will be truly funny is when the Dems lose in 2020 because Trump will pick up 25-30% of the Black vote and gain another 10-15% increase in the Hispanic vote. Dems can't win if they can't keep Blacks on the plantation. With a strong economy and people's lives vastly better than they were in 2016, the Lib message of massive changes being required will fall on deaf ears.

#36 | Posted by nobiasposter101 at 2019-03-11 11:18 PM | Reply

Well talk of crazy gun confiscation laws...

Calling every member of the NRA a nut job...

And calling every American a piece of garbage....

Is a great way to win rural hearts and minds....

Yea.... soooo...keep blaming those Russian troll monkeys while you keep shooting yourselves in the foot...

And remember.... we got the internet back in the sticks too...

#37 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-03-11 11:59 PM | Reply

"rural hearts and minds"

you'd sooner find a unicorn than win those with a new idea.

#38 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-03-12 12:11 AM | Reply

"Trump will pick up 25-30% of the Black vote"

What's your name gonna be after i make you eat this post?

#39 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-03-12 12:12 AM | Reply

LOL....democrats trying to capture rural vote but they sit here arguing the validity of what Hilary did or did not do.

This tells me they have already lost the rural vote.

#40 | Posted by Crassus at 2019-03-12 12:34 AM | Reply

Trump will pick up 25-30% of the Black vote

In what country?

#41 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-03-12 01:14 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

you'd sooner find a unicorn than win those with a new idea.

So what's the dems new idea? Oh, yea... the New Green Deal... where you have to give up your car,motorcycle, jetski, snowmobile, lawn mower, leafblower, charcol grill, and air travel all to reduce our carbon foot print and "save" the planet...

For the richest 1% like this clown...

Travolta is the owner of a Boeing 707 with registration N707JT. The jet is normally based at Travolta's house in Florida.

Travolta endorsed Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton in the run-up for the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

Now....didja notice how AOC was busy calling Every American a piece of garbage all the while making sure the New Green Deal DID NOT put limits on Huge Mega Mansions, Huge Mega Yachts, and Private Huge Mega Jets.....

hmmmm I wonder why is that??

MUST BE BECAUSE THEY ARE SO LARGE YOU CAN'T MEASURE THE CARBON FOOT PRINT THEY GENERATE... yea that's the ticket.

Taking away other peoples stuff... THAT'S your new idea?

Out here in the sticks, we call that stealing and it's actually a very old idea.

#42 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-03-12 01:25 AM | Reply

tl:dr

#43 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-03-12 01:51 AM | Reply

tl:dr

#43 | POSTED BY ALEXANDRITE

???

#44 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 01:54 AM | Reply

"where you have to give up your car,motorcycle, jetski, snowmobile, lawn mower, leafblower, charcol grill, and air travel all to reduce our carbon foot print and "save" the planet..."

I'm okay with all of those things provided people pay for carbon remediation.
Well, jetskis and leafblowers are a public nuisance, but that's a separate issue. ;)

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 01:55 AM | Reply

"Now....didja notice how AOC was busy calling Every American a piece of garbage all the while making sure the New Green Deal DID NOT put limits on Huge Mega Mansions, Huge Mega Yachts, and Private Huge Mega Jets....."

You have been overcome by body thetans.

#46 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 02:02 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

jeff- "too long, didn't read"

#47 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-03-12 02:27 AM | Reply

Alex - thanks for clarifying.

#48 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-12 02:35 AM | Reply

ummmm shudda gone with SP...Suppressive Person, is a term used in Scientology to describe the "antisocial personalities" who, according to Scientology's founder L. Ron Hubbard, make up about 2.5% of the population.

That's me...

...and well the richest 1% will get to keep their toys because their carbon sxxt don't stink.

provided people pay for carbon remediation.....

Like they do in taxes... in that case, they'll be paying 0% just like they do in Taxes....

NOPE saving the Earth is a ALL or NOTHING deal. Don't ask me to do what you won't do...

AOC called us GARBAGE and Hillary called us DEPLORABLES - just not feelin the love...

#49 | Posted by Pegasus at 2019-03-12 04:08 PM | Reply

"provided people pay for carbon remediation.....

Like they do in taxes... in that case, they'll be paying 0% just like they do in Taxes...."

You're making the good the enemy of the perfect.

Some people fuel their diesel cars with subsidied home heating oil that's dyed red. But that doesn't mean we should abandon that program.

Taxing carbon emissions will result in lower carbon emissions. Throw in a carbon allowance and it creates a market. That's cap and trade. It will work. You just don't want to have to pay anything because you're cheap and selfish.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 04:21 PM | Reply

"Don't ask me to do what you won't do.."

I don't. I ask everyone to pay for the CO2 they produce from fossil fuels. There's an easy way to pay nothing, which is don't burn any fossil fuels. With cap and trade you could actually make money, selling the allowances you don't use.

#51 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 04:26 PM | Reply

"NOPE saving the Earth is a ALL or NOTHING deal. Don't ask me to do what you won't do..."

I don't see Snoofy ever giving up the little campfire in the bowl of his bong.

#52 | Posted by madbomber at 2019-03-12 09:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

But you can make that fire with a magnifying glass. Net zero CO2 emissions.

#53 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-12 10:33 PM | Reply

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