Drudge Retort: The Other Side of the News
Sunday, March 10, 2019

Margaret Sullivan: Chris Wallace is an exceptional interviewer, and Shepard Smith and Bret Baier are reality-based news anchors. Now that we've got that out of the way, let's talk about the overall problem of Fox News, which started out with bad intentions in 1996 and has swiftly devolved into what often amounts to a propaganda network for a dishonest president and his allies.

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State run TV at its worst.
Only brainwashed moronic rubes use it as an "information" source.

It's a propaganda outlet for America haters!

#1 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-03-09 09:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What Fox News has become is destructive. To state the obvious:

Who is it obvious to? Libs and the truth?

#2 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-03-10 10:28 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

LOL CNN First.
www.drudge.com

#3 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-10 06:42 PM | Reply

Fox News, the Anti-Christ Network.

#4 | Posted by Zed at 2019-03-10 06:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nothing will change at Fox until Rupert Murdoch dies and his inheriting progeny get struck by lightning, like Saul on the road to Tarsus. Until then then inanity, lies and crotch shots in the morning will continue...

#5 | Posted by catdog at 2019-03-10 07:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Anybody, including Smirky McEyebrows, can sue for a large and impossible amounts.

It means nothing.

Unless you want to use the looooong stream of lawsuits against DOTUS in the same fashion. Probably not though. You're just grasping at straws.

#6 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-10 08:08 PM | Reply

I've been taking the propaganda network seriusly for a long time. If you didn't realize it during the run up to the Iraq invasion then basically you are stupid. That's a fact whether or not you aknowledge it, it just is a real fact.

#7 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-10 08:53 PM | Reply

Finally get tired of the bs?

#8 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-03-10 09:18 PM | Reply

It is destructive - the the libbie BS!

#9 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-03-10 10:10 PM | Reply

It is destructive - the the libbie BS!

#9 | POSTED BY comrade MSGT

Deport yourself you anti-American Putin tool!

#10 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-03-10 10:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Meh... Just have to wait for the gullible and easily manipulated boomers to die off. Then it will die a natural death (mainly because no one will be watching it because their viewer base will be dead).

Fox News is not the problem. It is the easily manipulated people that they target. Nature abhors a vacuum.
If Fox News disappeared tomorrow, some other organization would fill in the gap. (Just like country "regime change" always results in a new, possibly worse, regime taking its place)

Republicans like to be told what to think. Two of the biggest constituencies of the Republican party are the religious, and the military... people join those organizations because they want to be told what to think.

Luckily the younger generations like to think for themselves. There is a marked reduction in religiosity in millennials as well as an aversion to the military.

Fake news is like drugs. As long as you have people DOING drugs (demand), there will always be drug dealers (supply) no matter how much you crack down on them. Cracking down makes you feel good about yourself because you feel like you are actually doing something, but it doesn't really accomplish any results.
Luckily it is mainly the old gullible generations that demand the fake news from Fox. So, unless you think you can teach boomers not to be so gullible and racist (not likely), the best thing you can do is encourage young people to think critically and just wait it out.

#11 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-03-11 09:17 AM | Reply

I quit watching cable news years ago. However, I used to watch Fox pretty regularly and the one thing they were very good about was differentiating their news segments (Special Report) with their commentary segments (Hannity). If you know a segment is commentary and the commentator wears his bias on his sleeve, like Hannity does, you can take it with a boulder of salt.

Contrast that with an outlet like CNN, which claims to be unbiased but spends an inordinate amount of time blending reporting and opinion.

#12 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-03-11 10:38 AM | Reply

"Luckily it is mainly the old gullible generations that demand the fake news from Fox."

I seriously doubt that a majority of boomers pay any attention to Fox News. Remember some things about the boomer generation. We did Civil Rights, we protested the Vietnam War. Twice in the last 20 years Presidents have taken office without winning a majority of the votes. It is the Boomers, it is the same red neck idiots who called us traitors for protesting Vietnam and then the Iraq invasion. There are plenty of Millenial MAGA Morons out there today, don't kid yourself. When anyone tries to make the generational argument everyone should know it is a weak argument beecause it isn't based on the truth.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-11 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If you know a segment is commentary and the commentator wears his bias on his sleeve, like Hannity does, you can take it with a boulder of salt. "

If you sit there and watch someone like Hannity it will corrupt your mind and make it almost impossible to determine the truth. One thing about Hannity, he gets his audience to want to agree with him without and questioning of the truth about what he says. I know people who always make it a point to say they saw something on "Fox News" last night, it is a code that a percentage of our population uses to make it clear they are members of the tribe. They don't question facts because it is more important to be a member of that tribe than it is to actually know the truth because if you question too much you will be kicked out of that tribe and that can and does have consequences about jobs, promotions, if people will buy products from you, etc.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-11 10:44 AM | Reply

#13 | POSTED BY DANNI

Yeah... some millennials voted for Trump. But a vast majority voted for Clinton. It was not millennials who elected Trump. It isn't till you get over 50 that a majority of people in the age range voted for Trump.

Are all boomers the same? Of course not. But, those "red neck idiots" that you talk about? Those are boomers.

Be happy. Progressives are winning. The younger generations are less racist, more independent, and less gullible than their parents. That is good. The Republican base is dying out. I know it may be depressing that the closer you get to dying of old age the better this country will become, but that does not make it not true.

"When anyone tries to make the generational argument everyone should know it is a weak argument because it isn't based on the truth."

This is what you want to believe. But the fact is that generational cohorts do have certain voting patterns. And you present no facts to back up your claim. You are basically arguing "generational cohorts have nothing to do with it because... well, just because".

You want to ignore a whole slew of data because it makes you feel bad? Maybe you should become a Republican.

#15 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-03-11 11:02 AM | Reply

By now, there should be no surprise. An objective Liberal can see it just as easily as a Rep who isn't. Liberals latch on to every excuse they possibly can to place the blame on something else. There is no personal responsibility, and that includes media outlets. The Washington Post can report everything it wants to and Liberals will get behind it but as soon as anything is done that does anything to diminish or discredit a news outlet, Liberals being Liberals will point their fingers to anything that hasn't historically agreed with them. I'm not saying Fox News is or isn't bad, I'm not saying The Washington Post is or is not good, all I'm saying is that having Liberals point the finger and claiming something on the Right is all bad, inferring they themselves are not, is 100% predictable from a Liberal publication. It would be the same thing as Fox News accusing WaPo of being a Socialist outlet...whether they are right or not, it is completely predictable.

#16 | Posted by humtake at 2019-03-11 12:22 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"But, those "red neck idiots" that you talk about? Those are boomers."

As you could see from the election a better predictor for how someone will vote is where they live rather than their age.

"You want to ignore a whole slew of data because it makes you feel bad? Maybe you should become a Republican."

That will never happen. With the EC where they live counts more than anything else, that's how Trump got elected and will try to get reelected. I do see though that as the demographics get older they were more likely to vote for Trump but it was not the only thing that factored in. Race, education, urban or rural, religious beliefs, were also big factors.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-11 12:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Liberals latch on to every excuse they possibly can to place the blame on something else. There is no personal responsibility..." - #16 | Posted by humtake at 2019-03-11 12:22 PM

Whatever happened to the GOP principle of personal responsibility?

Back in the good ol' days of the Republican Party -- as in pre-2016 -- the party platform was all about conservative basics like personal responsibility. The 2012 platform mentioned the phrase at least three times, always in the context of individuals owning up to their choices and actions. But a funny thing happened on the way to rewriting the platform to conform with the personal habits of the party's 2016 nominee: The phrase "personal responsibility" got scrubbed.

Oops.

#18 | Posted by Hans at 2019-03-11 12:33 PM | Reply

I forgot to include the link.

www.people-press.org

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-11 12:54 PM | Reply

#3 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED
#16 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

You have to be Sniper level stupid to pretend CNN and Fox are anything alike.

But people like Gracie and Humtake NEED to believe Fox is being truthful. Their entire place in the universe is based upon Fox being right.

I mean, if Fox was lying to them, it would mean they are idiots. It would mean they got conned for years. It would mean everything they stood for was a charade.

If Obama, Hillary and the Dems aren't evil, then everything Gracie and Humtake believe is wrong. And they can't handle that thought.

So they will ignore the lies Fox spits out. They will ignore Fox simply avoiding major news stories. They will ignore Hannity being on stage with the President during a rally.

No matter how many times they get corrected, they will ignore it. No matter how credible the source, they will ignore it. No matter how obvious the fact, they will ignore it.

Their need to be right will let them believe anything in the face of even overwhelming evidence. Facts don't matter to them. They will just sit content in the idiotic belief that they know everything and those damn dirty Democrats are evil.

#20 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-03-11 01:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#16 | POSTED BY HUMTAKE

Too funny!

"Liberals latch on to every excuse they possibly can to place the blame on something else".

Followed by:

"Liberals, liberals, liberals, liberals, liberals..."

#21 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-03-11 02:10 PM | Reply

CNN presents the news and the discusses the news. Fox presents alternative facts as news and then discusses the alternative facts as if they were news.

Fox deliberately misrepresents the news. I watched them run and rerun and discuss the "violent" "rioting" "union thugs" protesting ACT 10 in Wisconsin. They went so far as to roll a video in the background of rioters pulling a mounted police officer off of his horse. They spent several days telling the world how the violent libruls were destroying democracy in Madison.

The thing is I live in Madison. There were 100,000 protestors at the capitol. There was NO violence. Not one arrest. 100% peaceful. There was lots of singing and speakers. In the video Fox used the protestors were wearing shorts and there were palm trees in the background. The real protest took place in February in Wisconsin. Temperatures were in the teens. There are no palm trees in Wisconsin.

There is no example of anything remotely similar done by CNN, MSNBC, PBS, ABC, or CBS news.

This is just one example of fox propaganda

#22 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-03-11 04:44 PM | Reply

I mean, if Fox was lying to them, it would mean they are idiots. It would mean they got conned for years. It would mean everything they stood for was a charade.

Idiots do love the company of idiots.

It justifies them. Much like the Religulous.

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We're no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It's simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we've been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."

― Carl Sagan, The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-03-11 07:02 PM | Reply

Oh boo hoo you little liberal snow flakes. As usual those who claim to never be caught dead watching Fox news seem to know everything about it. Plus I thought you were the party of free speech???? Yet you want Fox to be shut down because it doesn't suck up to the left. 3 words wimps: DON'T WATCH IT! I don't agree with much that is on MSNBC but I'm not a little baby calling for it to be shut down. I watch Tucker Carlson, he is obviously a conservative, got it before I started watching him, but he has far more opposing views guests on than CNN or MSNBC. And CNN leaked debate questions to Hillary. But no they aren't partisan at all. So suck it up, put on you big boy or big girl pants and don't watch it if you don't want to instead of using it for yet another excuse for bringing out a washed up old hag for a presidential candidate.

#24 | Posted by fishpaw at 2019-03-12 12:34 PM | Reply

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