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When Ryan Magers' ex-girlfriend got an abortion against his wishes in February 2017, he was upset -- so upset, in fact, that nearly two years later, he decided to sue the clinic where she'd had the procedure, the Alabama Women's Center for Reproductive Alternatives. Magers then petitioned a Madison County, AL probate court -- which typically deals with the property and debts of deceased adults -- to allow him to represent the estate of his ex-girlfriend's aborted fetus in his case against the clinic.

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Issue #1. How is he going to prove he was the father?

#1 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-03-06 06:53 PM | Reply

FTA:

The decision appears to be one of the first major decisions following Alabama's "personhood law," or Amendment 2, which passed during last year's midterm election. The amendment provides constitutional rights to fertilized eggs and fetuses, effectively making both a mother and a fetus equal in the eyes of state law. It also declares that Alabamans do not have any legal right to an abortion under the Alabama constitution.

Despite Helms' claim that this marks the first time a fetus has ever won legal rights in the United States, a 2014 Alabama law dictated that minors seeking abortions would have to obtain permission from a court and undergo a trial, which would involve a fetus having legal representation "for the interests of the unborn child." The law was struck down by a federal judge in 2017 on the grounds that it was unconstitutional.

This should also be struck down in a federal court but who knows. Horrifying for women indeed.

#2 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-03-06 07:45 PM | Reply

The amendment provides constitutional rights to fertilized eggs and fetuses, effectively making both a mother and a fetus equal in the eyes of state law.

So, miscarriages are involuntary manslaughter?

Perfect.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-03-06 07:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nice thread for a day where I've been arguing sexism is a bigger political impetus than racism.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-03-06 07:57 PM | Reply

Great, next will be the napkins in the trash next to my bed will be suing me for emancipation

#5 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-06 09:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

So, miscarriages are involuntary manslaughter?
Perfect.
#3 | Posted by ClownShack

could be raised to voluntary manslaughter if the mother does certain activities ie drinking, smoking or excercise

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-03-06 09:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...making both a mother and a fetus equal in the eyes of state law.

Cool, take it out and let it take care of itself.
So now a pregnant woman in Alabama can sue their fetus for medical expenses and room and board?

#7 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-03-06 10:52 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

#7
"Perfect."

#8 | Posted by ichiro at 2019-03-07 04:39 AM | Reply

So, when are BORN people going to sue their parents for being involuntarily subjected to the slow, ongoing torture called LIFE?

#9 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-03-07 09:50 AM | Reply

Great, next will be the napkins in the trash next to my bed will be suing me for emancipation

#5 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2019-03-06 09:22 PM | FLAG:

Elle Woods has you covered.

#10 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-03-07 09:50 AM | Reply

Men get NO say. Deal with it.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-07 09:51 AM | Reply

Alabama, Arkansas, and Mississippi: all racing to see who can win the coveted title of "most ridiculous, F--'d up state"

#12 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-03-07 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Ryan Magers' is just an angry ex-boyfriend who has serious issues. Very, very creepy. My advice to his ex, move out of that s***-H*** state. Change your name, get a new identity and stay away from that psycho. He's dangerous.

#13 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-07 10:10 AM | Reply

#9, www.bbc.com

#14 | Posted by qcp at 2019-03-07 10:28 AM | Reply

Florida Speaker Jose Oliva apologizes for 'host body' comments about pregnant women

"As technology moves along, a human body can exist outside of its host body earlier and earlier," Oliva, R-Miami Lakes, told Jim DeFede of CBS Miami in a Thursday interview. "And so then one has to think, until what time does the host body have veto power over this other life? ... The question is: What is the value of that life? And is it subordinate to the value of its host body?"

www.orlandosentinel.com

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-03-07 10:38 AM | Reply

Lincoln should have let the south secede.

#16 | Posted by JOE at 2019-03-07 10:55 AM | Reply

Men get NO say. Deal with it.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-07 09:51 AM | Reply

Then men should bear no responsibility after birth.

#17 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-03-07 10:59 AM | Reply

Then men should bear no responsibility after birth.

#17 | POSTED BY SUNTZUMEOW AT 2019-03-07 10:59 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Typical male response.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-07 11:05 AM | Reply

Forget it Jake. Move away. It's Alabama.

#19 | Posted by 88120rob at 2019-03-07 11:18 AM | Reply

"Then men should bear no responsibility after birth."

Many won't take any responsibility. R. Kelly is in jail right now because he wouldn't.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2019-03-07 12:31 PM | Reply

Typical male response.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-07 11:05 AM | Reply

You can't have it both ways.

#21 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2019-03-07 12:40 PM | Reply

-This should also be struck down in a federal court but who knows. Horrifying for women indeed.

I'm confident it will be struck down.

this is absurd.

#22 | Posted by eberly at 2019-03-07 12:44 PM | Reply

This is why you don't have unprotected sex with people you're going to disagree with on big issues.

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2019-03-07 12:54 PM | Reply

--this is absurd.

Yes, and so is giving nature the right to sue, as radical environmentalists advocate.

Should nature have the right to sue us?
www.latimes.com

#24 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-03-07 12:56 PM | Reply

The Devil fools with the best laid plan.

What a backwards ass medieval state.

#25 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-03-07 01:33 PM | Reply

......RCADE allows several MAGA abortion survivors to post

#26 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-03-07 01:39 PM | Reply

Men get NO say. Deal with it...........#11 _BY LAURAMOHR

Now I'm Really confused

#27 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-03-07 01:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Great, next will be the napkins in the trash next to my bed will be suing me for emancipation

#5 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS AT 2019-03-06 09:22 PM | FLAG:

Is there even enough to have a suit?? A drop or two won't get it its "dew".

#28 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2019-03-07 01:49 PM | Reply

"Lincoln should have let the south secede."

No, that wouldn't help the people stuck living there. What he should have done was execute the losers for treason. What we deal with today is a direct result of allowing them to live and poison future generations with their thinking.

#29 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2019-03-07 02:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"What did Jesus say about abortion, the favorite subject of Jeffress and the rest of the evangelical movement? Nothing. What does the Bible say about abortion, a practice as old as civilization? Nothing. Not one word."

Chris Ladd

#30 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2019-03-07 05:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Fine.

To get an abortion, just file for eviction. Eviction costs are generally recoverable for back rent and the cost of recovery of the "rental unit" (i.e. in this case medical procedures), and any costs associated with returning the unit to its previous state (i.e. in this case any additional medical procedures).

And since parents can be held liable for debts incurred by their children, the father is now liable for half the rent and half the cost of the medical procedures.

Sounds fair to me.

#31 | Posted by Sycophant at 2019-03-08 01:26 PM | Reply

this is absurd.

#22 | Posted by eberly

Basically describes all current GOP policy ideas.

#32 | Posted by jpw at 2019-03-08 03:14 PM | Reply

One of these days, just wait: The Republican Party is going to nominate an aborted fetus for president. Party members will further declare the fetus the winner of a debate against its Democratic opponent. Democrats will descend into infighting and barely eke out a victory in the general.

#33 | Posted by cbob at 2019-03-08 03:42 PM | Reply

The Republican Party is going to nominate an aborted fetus for president.

Doesn't it have to be at least 35 days old?

#34 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-03-09 07:32 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Then men should bear no responsibility after birth.

#17 | POSTED BY SUNTZUMEOW AT 2019-03-07 10:59 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Like most do anyway.

#35 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-03-09 10:49 PM | Reply

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