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Friday, February 08, 2019

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- A Virginia lawmaker says he plans to file papers to begin impeachment proceedings against his state's lieutenant governor, who faces sexual assault allegations from two women.

Del. Patrick Hope tweeted Friday that he would introduce articles of impeachment for Lt. Governor Justin Fairfax on Monday "if he has not resigned before then." Hope is an Arlington County Democrat who has served since 2010. A second woman has come forward Friday to accuse Fairfax, a Democrat, of sexual assault. She said in a statement that the attack took place when she and Fairfax were students at Duke University.

Earlier this week, California college professor Vanessa Tyson accused Fairfax of forcing her to perform oral sex on him in 2004 during the Democratic National Convention. Fairfax called the allegation a political smear.

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----- getting real...

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-08 08:21 PM | Reply

Meanwhile...

"Additionally, his advisers have assigned the governor homework: He's begun to read Alex Haley's "Roots", and "The Case for Reparations," the seminal essay in The Atlantic by Ta-Nehisi Coates."

Prepping for Northam 2.0, the civil-rights leader.

The comedy continues.

#2 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-02-08 08:39 PM | Reply

Democrats: Black face is okay. But not sexual harassment.

Republicans: Sexual harassment is okay. But not black face.

The intricacies of the parties still surprise.

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-02-08 08:41 PM | Reply

I'm starting to get the feeling that it has been decided by the VA Democratic Party that Fairfax is going to have to be the fall guy here, and they hope that people forget about Gov. Blackface and AG BlackfaceToo.

#4 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-08 08:49 PM | Reply

"She said in a statement that the attack took place when she and Fairfax were students at Duke University."

Dennis Nifong rides again!

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-02-08 08:50 PM | Reply

The Dems really don't have any good options here, if they ignore Northam and Herring then they look like bigoted hypocrites, if they ignore Fairfax they look like they sexist hypocrites, if they take them all down a Republican becomes Governor.

Moreover, inaction on any of these options and they lose the moral high ground that they are "better" than the GOP on both race and sexual assault.

#6 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-08 08:55 PM | Reply

Can somebody from this site that typically is seen as a lefty explain what a "win" looks like in this situation?
I don't even need you to believe it, just come up with a best case scenario.

This is a mess.

#7 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-02-08 09:23 PM | Reply

This is a mess.

#7 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE AT 2019-02-08 09:23 PM

You'd have to watch the entire Mexican air force crash-land in a liquid petroleum gas storage facility to match this kind of thrill.

-PJ O'Rourke

#8 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-08 09:34 PM | Reply

Can somebody from this site that typically is seen as a lefty explain what a "win" looks like in this situation? - #7 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-02-08 09:23 PM

Not that I'm seen as a lefty, but this seems like the most promising way this is a "win" for Democrats:
CNN falsely labels Northam as 'Republican'
but for all 3 of them?

#9 | Posted by Avigdore at 2019-02-08 10:10 PM | Reply

Can somebody from this site that typically is seen as a lefty explain what a "win" looks like in this situation?

Take a page out of the Republican handbook and ignore it until public interest wanes and no one cares anymore.

It worked for Trump and Kavanaugh.

#10 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-02-09 12:14 AM | Reply

This is a mess.

Is it though?

I don't care. Do you?

#11 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-02-09 12:15 AM | Reply

Vanessa Tyson accused Fairfax of forcing her to perform oral sex on him in 2004

Was it at gun point? If you're going to rape someone. Why put your penis in their mouth? Teeth vs penis = ouch.

Also.

Can she provide, at minimum, 4 witnesses. DNA evidence. Photo or video documents. Why did she wait so long? What is she trying to gain. She's looking for attention. She's trying to sabotage. Republicans put her up to this. This is a distraction. Obama's fault. Hillary's fault. Transgenders fault. God bless Trump.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-02-09 12:37 AM | Reply

I'm not sure they can impeach him. The Virginia Constitution seems to stipulate that the offense must have occurred while the person is holding office in order to impeach.

#13 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-02-09 03:49 AM | Reply

I don't care. Do you?
#11 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK

I always knew you caring was a ruse ..

Sure I do .. woman gets taken advantage of .. you betcha ..

#14 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-02-09 04:20 AM | Reply

"The Dems really don't have any good options here, if they ignore Northam and Herring then they look like bigoted hypocrites, if they ignore Fairfax they look like they sexist hypocrites, if they take them all down a Republican becomes Governor."

Who is in line after Herring? I hope it isn't GOP Senate Majority leader Norment:

www.dailypress.com

The two allegations against Fairfax are much more serious (as in they were crimes at the time they are said to have occurred). Also, now that there are two allegations, 4 years apart, I wouldn't be surprised if more women come forward.

#15 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 09:38 AM | Reply

I could see the situation as follows: ----- guy resigns, the Governor replaces him and the blackface AG while reading Roots and some essay, then in a couple weeks the governor is impeached by a bipartisan vote. This could solve the VA DNC's possible issue of having the GOP Speaker take the Governor position.

#16 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-02-09 09:47 AM | Reply

Who is in line after Herring? I hope it isn't GOP Senate Majority leader Norment:

Even worse for the Dems, it is GOP Speaker of the House of Delegates Cox...who is so far unblemished.

#17 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 10:37 AM | Reply

#14

Don't forget, when the Weinstein allegations broke (starting the #Metoo movement) Clownshart was the self proclaimed entertainment industry vet who: 1. said he had no idea who Harvey Weinstein was and 2. said he didn't care and it was a non-issue. He's #Team to the core, so it is not surprising at all that he is desperately hoping this goes away quietly.

#18 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 11:14 AM | Reply

BREAKING: Every VA politician who has ever worn blackface has resigned.

There are now 4 blacks and one Asian who will run the entire state.

/snark

#19 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-02-09 11:25 AM | Reply

"Even worse for the Dems, it is GOP Speaker of the House of Delegates Cox...who is so far unblemished."

I would hate to see the Dems throw Northam and Herring under the bus only to discover GOP leaders like Norment who are guilty of similar actions but who will get a pass from Republicans, but that's just me. It could end up being like the men who went after Clinton for the Lewinsky affair and then turned out to be guilty of everything from adultery (Gingrich) to pedophilia (Hastert).

#20 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 11:27 AM | Reply

Now having read much more about it, I think that if Norment were the sole editor of the VMI yearbook then he should absolutely resign but he was one of 7 that year. As noted by the Daily Press:

Norment, 72, emphasized he was one of seven yearbook editors. He said his role as managing editor was to ensure writers and photographers showed up and turned in assignments on time."I was kind of the first sergeant," he said. "I'm still culpable, but it is by association with a team that produced that yearbook with those photos." He added that he was not in and did not take any of the offensive photos.

"It has been the objective of this year's Bomb staff to concentrate on the VMI as it exists in actuality, not in theory," Norment wrote in 1968 on a yearbook page for its editors. "There is an ever-broadening chasm between the two positions."

Moreover, WashPo notes that as a member of student leadership Norment strongly supported the integration of VMI in the late 60's and lead the charge as a Virginia State Senator to admit women to VMI in 1997, and published this quote from Norment:

"Norment said he was "not surprised that those wanting to engulf Republican leaders in the current situations involving the Governor, Lt. Governor, and Attorney General would highlight the yearbook from my graduation a half century ago."

Even in the major Virginia papers Norment's disclosure as managing editor of The Bomb has gone away, while the imbroglio over Northam, Fairfax and Herring continues unabated.

#21 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 12:12 PM | Reply

"Even in the major Virginia papers Norment's disclosure as managing editor of The Bomb has gone away"

That's because he's not a Democrat. Rest assured if he was, he would be part of the story.

#22 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 12:18 PM | Reply

"Moreover, WashPo notes that as a member of student leadership Norment strongly supported the integration of VMI in the late 60's"

I agree that should be noted as should any positive efforts to combat racism that Northam and Herring have taken over the years.

#23 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 12:26 PM | Reply

ROC, read this last night and thought of you:

KATHLEEN PARKER: Northam deserves chance to redeem himself as governor

Northam apologized when the photo first surfaced, which, in light of his life since medical school would suffice in a normal world. But, not in today's arena. Yes, it was horrible and stupid, but might nearly 35 years of healing children and public and military service since then make up for a 20-something's poor choice? Does this isolated photo capture the essence and spirit of the now-59-year-old Northam?

siouxcityjournal.com

#24 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 12:30 PM | Reply

#24 She starts out with a bang:

In 1983, just before winning a third term as Louisiana's governor, Edwin Edwards famously said the only way he could lose the race was "if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy."

Presumably, no one checked his yearbook.

#25 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 12:31 PM | Reply

That's because he's not a Democrat. Rest assured if he was, he would be part of the story.

I don't agree, the regions papers are very Democratic oriented, even The Washington Post and the Baltimore Sun are deeming the Norment VMI editor story a non-issue. I think that if there was any smoke there they would be all over it.

#26 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 12:45 PM | Reply

I think at this point that Northam and Herring should be given a chance to redeem themselves, but that now runs directly counter to the knee-jerk reaction of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party on race and the narrative that they have been joyfully pushing for the past several years that they are the party of inclusion and zero tolerance of things like blackface.

This is why the Democratic Party is focusing so closely on Fairfax, hoping that everyone will ignore their calls for Northam to resign, since they have come to the sickening realization that Cox is third in line.

#27 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 12:49 PM | Reply

#24

In a sure sign that this is a very small world, one of my best friends here in LA, who grew up in Sioux City and is a recently retired senior Sony Executive and is left of center (we talk politics on a near daily basis), sent me that article last night, and I almost immediately thought that you needed to read this. Creepy, maybe, but more accurate would be the realization that you and I both see these things from an analytical albeit slightly different side of the lens. I thought her conclusion was perfect:

Interestingly, both Northam and Kavanaugh were faced with similar decisions -- whether to drop out and put an end to the public torture and protect their families -- or stay the course because surrender would seem an admission of guilt. We know by Northam's own words that he once played around with blackface, which, again, is disappointing, but does it rise to the level of a firing offense these many years later?

For Kavanaugh, dropping out most likely would have meant an end to his judicial career, even at the lower court level. And then where would he go? What would he do with a ruined reputation and the forever suspicion that he was guilty?

Kavanaugh's story ended as it should have. By any measure of fairness, Northam deserves a chance to further redeem himself as governor.

I agree with Parker 100%, and this should be a cautionary tale for both sides of the political divide, to put it in terms that any good Iowan would understand, that you truly reap what you sow.

I will give you an hour to post this article, if you haven't by by 2:00 EST I will post it myself since I think it is an excellent analysis of this whole mess.

#28 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 01:01 PM | Reply

"I don't agree, the regions papers are very Democratic oriented, even The Washington Post and the Baltimore Sun are deeming the Norment VMI editor story a non-issue. I think that if there was any smoke there they would be all over it."

The reason I think it would be a story is because it would be tied into the larger story of the other Democrats Northam and Herring, and it would be the Democrats themselves who would likely make it a story for the very reason that you state:

"but that now runs directly counter to the knee-jerk reaction of the progressive wing of the Democratic Party on race and the narrative that they have been joyfully pushing for the past several years that they are the party of inclusion and zero tolerance of things like blackface."

If they tried to make an exception for Norment, they'd have to take a more nuanced view of Northam and Herring as well and that wouldn't sit well with some folks in the party.

#29 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 01:44 PM | Reply

"I will give you an hour to post this article, if you haven't by by 2:00 EST I will post it myself since I think it is an excellent analysis of this whole mess."

I wasn't planning on posting it, so go for it. Here's the line that has stuck with me:

"Implicit in this new category is that personal evolution isn't possible and redemption is dead."

That's not a world I want to live in.

#30 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 01:53 PM | Reply

"This is why the Democratic Party is focusing so closely on Fairfax, hoping that everyone will ignore their calls for Northam to resign, since they have come to the sickening realization that Cox is third in line."

After the way they handled the Franken (and Kavanaugh) accusations, I don't think that's the only reason they are focusing of Fairfax. Just sayin'.

#31 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 01:57 PM | Reply

"That's not a world I want to live in."

I want a world where people actually learned from the mistakes they made thirty years ago, not make excuses for them, or deny they ever happened.

#32 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-02-09 01:59 PM | Reply

"I want a world where people actually learned from the mistakes they made thirty years ago, not make excuses for them, or deny they ever happened."

The redemption is predicated on personal evolution, so people who didn't learn from their mistakes or deny they happened wouldn't qualify for either. Words are good; actions are better. Apologizes are all well and good, but living in such a way that you demonstrate you have evolved is also necessary.

#33 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 02:05 PM | Reply

not make excuses for them, or deny they ever happened.

Does that apply to Northam, who first admitted that he was in the photo then denied it ever happened? Or just to Kavanaugh.

#34 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 02:06 PM | Reply

I want a world where people actually learned from the mistakes they made thirty years ago, not make excuses for them, or deny they ever happened.

#32 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2019-02-09 01:59 PM | REPLY

That would require truth, which we've nearly destroyed in the age of trump.

#35 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-02-09 02:11 PM | Reply

"Kavanaugh's story ended as it should have."

Of course, I disagree with Parker on this because there was no fair and thorough investigation into Ford's claim or into the many claims put forth by people who went college with Kav that he lied under oath about his drinking and about some of the things he denied doing while drunk. Lying under oath about anything should disqualify one from being a judge let alone judge on the SC. Which is why I wouldn't post her article in a separate thread. While I agree with some of her points, I don't agree with her characterizations regarding the Kavanaugh hearings and the reasons Democrats objected to his nomination.

#36 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 02:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Implicit in this new category is that personal evolution isn't possible and redemption is dead."
That's not a world I want to live in.

#30 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

I think it's even simpler than that and I think people are looking for some deeper message where there isn't one.

This is simply a case of the Dems painting themselves into a corner with their over-zealous identity politics and demands for purity. They foolishly create those standards to bludgeon Reps with, apparently without thought to the fact that their own ranks are far from saints and perfect human beings.

#37 | Posted by jpw at 2019-02-09 02:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#37

I would give you a Moment of Clarity Award (tm) but I usually only reserve those for the people who rarely achieve it, and you do it on a daily basis.

That being said, well done, probably one of your best posts ever.

#38 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 03:32 PM | Reply

"This is simply a case of the Dems painting themselves into a corner with their over-zealous identity politics and demands for purity. They foolishly create those standards to bludgeon Reps with, apparently without thought to the fact that their own ranks are far from saints and perfect human beings."

Or without realizing that Republicans won't hold their less than perfect members to the same zero tolerance standards just because Democrats do.

#39 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 03:42 PM | Reply

Or without realizing that Republicans won't hold their less than perfect members to the same zero tolerance standards just because Democrats do.

Mike Ertel would vehemently disagree with you on this point.

#40 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 03:45 PM | Reply

Ertel may be the exception that makes the rule. For me the blackface wasn't the only offensive thing that he did. He also pretended to be a Katrina survivor 2 months after the hurricane hit. If he had pretended to be a Caucasian female Katrina survivor, his costume still would have been offensive, IMO. Speaking of Ertel, this article is from the Orlando Sentinel yesterday:

Can Mike Ertel make a comeback after resigning in disgrace after blackface scandal?

www.orlandosentinel.com

#41 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 03:53 PM | Reply

Also, Ertel dressed in blackface in 2005 when he was 36 years old as opposed to Northam who was 25 in 1984 and Herring who was 19 in 1980. Ertel can't really use the "I was a student and a jerk, and it was common place back then" excuse.

#42 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 04:43 PM | Reply

Here's a GOP representative who donned blackface in 2005 while he was in high school, nobody asked him to drop out of his race and he went on to win it:

FLORIDA STATE REP. ANTHONY SABATINI

The Florida Democratic Party is calling on State Rep. Anthony Sabatini to resign following the revelation that he dressed in blackface when he was in high school in 2005.

The photo in question was anonymously sent to media organizations last year during Sabatini's run for the State House, according to the Orlando Sentinel.

The photo was decried as racist, but Sabatini told the newspaper Tuesday that he and a friend were dressing as each other as a "prank."

Florida House Speaker Jose Oliva, a Republican, told WESH he will not ask for Sabatini's resignation, because "All of us are not the people we were at 16. We grow, we learn, and we realize the world is much bigger than the walls of our high school. The people of Representative Sabatini's district have made their choice, with full knowledge of the photograph, and that choice will be respected."

www.sacbee.com

State Rep. Anthony Sabatini dismisses Florida Democratic chair's call for his resignation over high school 'blackface' photo

www.orlandosentinel.com

#43 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-02-09 04:55 PM | Reply

"The Florida Democratic Party is calling on State Rep. Anthony Sabatini"

Was the request made personally by De Negro Andrew Gillum?

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-02-09 05:12 PM | Reply

#42

Distinction without a difference.

#45 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-09 05:52 PM | Reply

I would give you a Moment of Clarity Award (tm) but I usually only reserve those for the people who rarely achieve it, and you do it on a daily basis.

That being said, well done, probably one of your best posts ever.

#38 | Posted by Rightocenter

Thanks.

Wouldn't have expected such a complimentary post LOL

#46 | Posted by jpw at 2019-02-09 11:07 PM | Reply

This is all fine. Things are working as they should. Dems don't allow racism or rape.

That is all.

#47 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-02-09 11:11 PM | Reply

So is forcing a woman's face into your naked -------- and holding her there until she performs a sex act not considered sexual assault as long you don't leave any bruises? Asking for a friend.

#48 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-02-10 12:24 PM | Reply

Wouldn't have expected such a complimentary post LOL

#46 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2019-02-09 11:07 PM

Dude, when you don't don the Anger Mouse costume you are one of the more cogent people here.

Keep it dialed back, it suits you better.

#49 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-02-10 01:17 PM | Reply

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