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Saturday, January 19, 2019

A statement has been issued by a student who said he was the youth "confronted by a Native American protestor" in a widely circulated video that provoked intense criticism of Covington Catholic High School over students' treatment of the elder American Indian.

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Lexington Heral Leader: Covington Catholic and the Diocese of Covington condemned the actions of the school's students toward the Native American in the video and Native Americans in general and offered their "deepest apologies."

It added: "The matter is being investigated and we will take appropriate action, up to and including expulsion. We know this incident also has tainted the entire witness of the March for Life and express or most sincere apologies to all those attended the March and all those who support the pro-life movement."

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That stupid punk will regret his action now that this video has gone viral.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-19 03:16 PM | Reply

Wearing a MAGA hat while confronting a Native American? Now that is a display of ignorance that is amazing.

#2 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-19 03:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 10

#1 | POSTED BY DANNI
"That stupid punk will regret his action now that this video has gone viral."

He's the focus in most vids, but the wider shot vid shows all his classmates joining in.

I'm having thoughts about this that would be in very poor taste to express.

#3 | Posted by TheTom at 2019-01-19 03:26 PM | Reply

This is what happens when stupid racist hilljacks give birth to stupid racist hilljacks. Cannot wait until these punks get their asses flat out throttled, just a matter of time.

#4 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-01-19 03:40 PM | Reply

"I'm having thoughts about this that would be in very poor taste to express."

I doubt that all of his classmates were there, surely there are some decent kids that go to his school. Maybe some who are Native Americans, Hispanics or Black.

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-19 04:05 PM | Reply

"Cannot wait until these punks get their asses flat out throttled"

How do you throttle someone's ass?

#6 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-19 05:04 PM | Reply

Did any of these turds from Covfefe Catholic channel the------------------- and taunt the Native Americans with quips about Wounded Knee and Pocahontas?

#7 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-01-19 06:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Hey look, Covington Catholic has its very own Donald Trump.

www.wcpo.com

#8 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-01-19 07:12 PM | Reply

These guys are from the area near Big Bone Lick state park and that moronic Noah's Ark museum for fundos. There also many horses in the area as well so that means just as many horses asses. How fitting.

#9 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-19 07:14 PM | Reply

How do you throttle someone's ass?

#6 | POSTED BY Comrade SENTINEL

Are you really that dense?

Are you really condoning racism?

Nevermind, don't respond, we all know the answers.

#10 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-01-19 07:37 PM | Reply

A Vietnam vet too. But let's not kneel for the National Anthem. That's too disrespectful to the military.

#11 | Posted by Pirate at 2019-01-19 08:07 PM | Reply

"But let's not kneel for the National Anthem. That's too disrespectful to the military." - #11 | Posted by Pirate at 2019-01-19 08:07 PM

No, it isn't disrespectful to the military.

There's not a single member of the Armed Forces who gave his/her life for the National Anthem.

None.

#12 | Posted by Hans at 2019-01-19 08:26 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 7

Further proof that anyone in one of those god-awful hats might as well be wearing a klan hood

#13 | Posted by qcp at 2019-01-19 08:31 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I find it very sad that such hatred has been passed to another generation. We are all human.

#14 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-01-19 09:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Does Kentucky have any nuns like legend has it use to rule the orphanages of Chicago?

They use to give even the toughest of brothers the blues.

#15 | Posted by Tor at 2019-01-19 09:07 PM | Reply

I wonder what the song the Native American was chanting was all about.

#16 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-01-19 10:21 PM | Reply

#5 | POSTED BY DANNI
"I doubt that all of his classmates were there"

Agreed. I'll amend it to "many".

#17 | Posted by TheTom at 2019-01-19 10:22 PM | Reply

"I wonder what the song the Native American was chanting was all about."

Everything Trump and his sycophants don't give a schitt about:

The images in videos that went viral on social media Saturday showed a tense scene near the Lincoln Memorial.

In them, a Native American man steadily beats his drum at the tail end of Friday's Indigenous Peoples March while singing a song of unity urging them to "be strong" in the face of the ravages of colonialism that now include police brutality, poor access to health care and the ill effects of climate change on reservations.

Phillips, who was singing the American Indian Movement song that serves as a ceremony to send the spirits home, said he noticed tensions beginning to escalate when the teens and other apparent participants from the nearby March for Life rally began taunting the dispersing indigenous crowd.

#18 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-19 11:36 PM | Reply

Rep. Deb Haaland (D-N.M.), who with Rep. Sharice Davids (D-Kan.) became the first Native American women elected to Congress last fall, said the video was difficult to watch.

"To see a group of students from a Catholic school who are practicing such intolerance is a sad sight for me," said Haaland, who is Catholic.

www.washingtonpost.com

If this spectacle had occurred earlier, perhaps Gillette could have included it in its recent commercial:

"I'm still trying to process what happened," Phillips said. "I'm feeling a little bit overwhelmed."

Still, he said, he hopes the teens will find a lesson in all of the negative attention generated by the videos.

"That energy could be turned into feeding the people, cleaning up our communities and figuring out what else we can do," Phillips said. "We need the young people to be doing that instead of saying: ‘These guys are our enemies.' "

#19 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-19 11:41 PM | Reply

It's a bit surprising that these feral Trumpers didn't tell the Native Americans to go back to Puerto Rico.

#20 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-01-20 02:03 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Mission not accomplished:

As the only all-male and largest Catholic high school in the Diocese of Covington, our Mission is witnessed:

Spiritually, when a young man experiences the humble satisfaction of participating in community service with his fellow CovCath brothers. Our students contribute twice the required hours of community service, via tutoring at inner city schools and working at Special Olympics events. In addition to Mass and other sacraments offered at school, they seize opportunities to grow and communicate their faith, such as the annual March for Life and Nicaraguan mission trips.

Tuition $9,150 - In-Diocese students $9,950 - Out of Diocese students Above totals include $935 book rental fee, $200 registration fee and $65 technology

www.privateschoolreview.com

#21 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 02:10 AM | Reply

It's a good thing Craig, Chad Jr, Jayden, Kayden, Braxten, Graham, etc in the video there were only screaming at a Vietnam Vet and not doing something truly disrespectful to the troops, like taking a knee during the magic freedom song.

Disrespecting the magical freedom cloth during the magical freedom song will make a conservative do all sorts of mental gymnastics to come to the conclusion that you should never have a job again in your life.
It's a good thing these guys were only out screaming in the faces of actual veterans. They won't have to worry about any such backlash.

#22 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-01-20 07:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#10 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON AT 2019-01-19 07:37 PM

I'm trying to figure out if you're just condoning violence or advocating sexual assault against teenage boys. Which is it?

#23 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-20 09:01 AM | Reply

MAGA hat boy's mother blames 'black Muslims' for her son harassing Native American man

In an email to the news website Heavy.com, she wrote: "Did you hear the names of the people where (sic) calling these boys? It was shameful. Did you witness the black Muslims yelling profanities and video taping to get something to futher (sic) your narrative of hatred??

"Did you know that this "man" came up to this one boy and drummed in his face?"

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-20 09:34 AM | Reply

black Muslims

#24 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT

Yap, it's not little Brayden's fault.

Hey, she feeds him wheat bread so he has a firm understanding that not all brown things are bad.

What else do you want from either of them??

#25 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-01-20 09:52 AM | Reply

"I'm trying to figure out if you're just condoning violence or advocating sexual assault against teenage boys. Which is it?"

No you're not. You're simply trying to turn the tables on those of us who were rightly outraged by your fellow MAGA hat fools. It won't work. MAGA is code for KKK and everyone knows it.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-20 10:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#26, I called them dweebs and in no way defended their behavior. You on the other hand are defending someone who made an indefensible comment. -

#27 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-20 12:02 PM | Reply

Typical young Trump supporters. The parents of people like this are Trump's base.

#28 | Posted by moder8 at 2019-01-20 01:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That stupid punk will regret his action now that this video has gone viral."

But at that moment, he thought he was the coolest kid on the planet.

#29 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-20 01:40 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Note that many all boys or all girls Catholic schools are nothing more than religious versions of what they used to call 'reformatories'. A place where rich parents can send their 'problem' children.

It was also reported that prior to these 'delinquents' turning their attention toward the two Native-American men, that this same group had been harassing an elderly African-American couple near the Lincoln Memorial.

And while it was probably true that this group did not represent the school's entire student body, it did appear that this specific group was virtually all WHITE.

What was most outrageous was a comment I heard one of the MAGA-hatted students say something about building the 'wall'. The old Native-American should have said something about how THEY should have built a 'wall'.

OCU

#30 | Posted by OCUser at 2019-01-20 02:13 PM | Reply

A couple of years of national service would wipe the arrogant smirk off of that spoiled jackass's face.

#31 | Posted by madscientist at 2019-01-20 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

the arrogant smirk off of that spoiled jackass's face

No ---- arrogant smirk. He looks like he already runs a pharmaceutical company or something.

#32 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-01-20 02:47 PM | Reply

Oops. Other videos have surfaces that don't support the Trump deranged media narrative.

#33 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-20 06:24 PM | Reply

Rams win!

#34 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 06:25 PM | Reply

#33
Source it or link it.

And if you come up with that ridiculous Informationliberation..com link save it. That site is totes infowars competition.

It's Fake News.

#35 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-01-20 06:50 PM | Reply

"Oops. Other videos have surfaces that don't support the Trump deranged media narrative."

Whoops. Don't know if there was an earlier interaction, but It does look like the Indian drummers came up to these boys and were the ones harassing them.

#36 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-20 10:19 PM | Reply

Story is turning out to be a hoax, and apologies are rolling in.

"As details emerged, some individuals and outlets who had been quick to condemn the students retracted their words and even apologized."

Robby Soave

@robbysoave

The Covington / Nathan Phillips incident is shaping up to be as misguided a rush to judgment as the Rolling Stone story. Full video footage largely exonerates the students, explicitly contradicts Phillips. reason.com ...
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12:45 PM - Jan 20, 2019

#37 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 10:22 PM | Reply

Scott Adams

@ScottAdamsSays

Scott Adams apologizes for believing @CNN about the Covington Catholic Boys fake news. With coffee. www.pscp.tv ...
5,485
7:06 AM - Jan 20, 2019

#38 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 10:28 PM | Reply

Here's another "interpretation" of what happened:

Kris Colvin @KrisColvin

Replying to @speechboy71
My astute friend Aaron posted this. I feel he's summarized it very well.

twitter.com

#39 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 10:37 PM | Reply

Yeah, i'm sure a teenager in a MAGA hat who stood grinning at an old brown guy meant nothing by it. We know how accepting Trump supporters are of other cultures.

#40 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-20 10:43 PM | Reply

Meghan McCain

@MeghanMcCain

My friend @robbysoave is one of the best journalists I know... I, like many others may have reacted too quickly. Apologize for being part of a media pile on. Please read his piece.

Jake Tapper

@jaketapper

.@reason: "Video footage strongly contradicts Native American veteran Nathan Phillips' claim that Covington Catholic High School boys harassed him. The media got this one completely wrong," writes @robbysoave reason.com ...

#41 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 10:46 PM | Reply

Megan🦊Fox @MeganFoxWriter

I fell for the first edited video too. It's #FakNews and these kids are owed a big apology

#42 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 10:48 PM | Reply

I wonder if the NA elder and the kid who came face-to-face would be willing to meet and discuss what happened? The elder seemed to think the kids in general were about to become violent in response to the Black Hebrew Israelites despicable taunting, and the Catholic school kid seemed to think the NA elder was about to confront him in a way similar to what the African-American protestors were doing. I can't account for why the NA elder saw the black protestors as the "prey" vs the Catholic school boys as "beasts" other than because of the large difference in numbers between the two groups (5 vs 100) and because he may not have understood what the large crowd of teenagers were chanting.

#43 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 10:52 PM | Reply

It looks like talking heads are continuing to take sides. This was posted in response to the "interpretation" I posted earlier:

Soledad O'Brien @soledadobrien

Replying to @KrisColvin @speechboy71
Yup. This matches the full video I've seen. Interestingly -- at 1:10 in the video -- a grown man with the kids takes his sweatshirt and shirt off -- and flails. who is he? The kids move closer and closer to the Israelites -- who tell them to back up. They start far away. The move close.

Crowd is giant. I counted 3 of the Israelites -- could be five. Dozens and dozens of kids. Adults seem to be the group. This nearly 2hr long video is consistent with interview Nathan Phillips gave.

#44 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 10:55 PM | Reply

Robert P. George @McCormickProf

I apologize to the Covington Catholic boys. What Rod Dreher says of himself goes double for me. I jumped the gun and that was stupid and unjust. It is I, not the boys, who needs to take a lesson from this.

The Catholic Bonfire At The Stake www.theamericanconservative.com ... via @amconmag
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10:56 AM - Jan 20, 2019

#45 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 10:58 PM | Reply

As I said, I think it would be great if the NA elder and the smiling teenager meet and discuss what happened and try to understand what each other's perspective. I hope I'm wrong, but that probably won't happen because most people don't want to come to that sort of rapprochement.

#46 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 11:03 PM | Reply

I'm seeing a number of people pointing out that the MAGA hats themselves are viewed by many as symbols of hatred and intolerance. Yeah, I get that.

#47 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 11:09 PM | Reply

Charlie Kirk

@charliekirk11

I just watched the unedited video of the high school kids at the March - they did nothing wrong, and I correct an earlier tweet

The left intentionally misreported the facts (typical) to destroy these kids lives to blame it on Trump

Media made this a top story to wreck lives
35.6K
7:21 AM - Jan 20, 2019

#48 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 11:11 PM | Reply

I think it would be great if the NA elder and the smiling teenager meet and discuss what happened

The teens are claiming no fault of their own. They claim the Native Americans approaches them and they did nothing wrong by circling them impeding their movement and screaming at them.

They're blaming black Muslims.

#49 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-20 11:13 PM | Reply

As some people are also pointing out, the boys behind the NA elder and the smiling boy don't seem frightened and are laughing and smiling themselves:

(((SusanS))) @Schaibly

Replying to @HoarseWisperer
"Indelible on the hippocampus is laughter."

Look at the boys in the background. What are they laughing at if not their friend getting one up on Phillips?

twitter.com

I would also point out that the boys don't seem intent on turning violent either. It looks like they are having a good time; some are even snapping photos of the encounter.

#50 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 11:15 PM | Reply

"They're blaming black Muslims."

Yeah, I saw that earlier. Was it smiling boy's mother who said that?

#51 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 11:17 PM | Reply

David Brooks

@nytdavidbrooks

Yesterday I had one impression of the maga kids from Kentucky. Now after seeing more videos I have a different more complicated impression. Makes all the hot takes seem silly.
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8:15 AM - Jan 20, 2019

#52 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 11:19 PM | Reply

PS We all know smiling boy didn't personally write his account of what happened; most likely his parents, probably in conjunction with a lawyer, wrote it.

#53 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-20 11:23 PM | Reply

CJ Pearson
Verified account @thecjpearson
NEWS: Liberal activists are calling the college admissions offices of universities that have accepted Covington Catholic students, urging them to rescind offers of admission, a Covington Catholic senior tells me.
6:57 PM - 20 Jan 2019

Intolerant fake liberals in action.

#54 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-20 11:28 PM | Reply

Is the video worth watching? I missed the initial hype of this incident as I figured stuff like this only serves to distract from nation and worldwide Newsworthy events.

#55 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-01-20 11:29 PM | Reply

Nothing to see here.
Vets are to be virtue signaled to unless they are brown, then they are to be mocked.
- GOP

#56 | Posted by bored at 2019-01-20 11:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

this thread was worth seeing nullifidian gaslight with stupid brooks.

what does teen vogue think, nulli? rofl

#57 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-01-20 11:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

Not a good week for fake news media.

#58 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-20 11:55 PM | Reply

Was it smiling boy's mother who said that?

Yes. The mother.

But. Probably repeating what smug boy told her.

#59 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-21 12:22 AM | Reply

Was smug boy the one that showed extraordinary restraint when the irrational man was pounding on the drum in his face and ears?

#60 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 12:32 AM | Reply

#60 | POSTED BY VISITOR_

If your Nazi boy crush had stepped aside.

We wouldn't be discussing this.

#61 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-21 02:11 AM | Reply

CJ Pearson
Verified account @thecjpearson
NEWS: Liberal activists are calling the college admissions offices of universities that have accepted Covington Catholic students, urging them to rescind offers of admission, a Covington Catholic senior tells me.
6:57 PM - 20 Jan 2019
Intolerant fake liberals in action.

#54 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Rightfully so.

If you disrespect the magical freedom song and/or people the freedom flag isn't able to freedom and you aren't allowed to earn a living.

Refresh my memory, which side was it that made those rules?

#62 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2019-01-21 05:29 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Vets are to be virtue signaled to unless they are brown, then they are to be mocked.
- GOP

#56 | POSTED BY BORED AT 2019-01-20 11:34 PM | FLAG: MMMMMHHMMMMMMM

Actually I think the whole "Veterans" and "Honor" as their sacred cow is their favorite movable feast... Purple Heart bandaids are very popular around the porcine pack. Nothing captures the elegance of republiclØwnery like the feral majesty of "Swift Boaters" eating their own. That was a real nose honker if you ask me.

#63 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2019-01-21 06:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Are these little guys kind of trumper stick up kids? Get the underage out there on the front line...they can't really be held accountable and if you can get a kid to pull this stunt at a young age, you've most likely got him for life. Some of the kids in the pictures don't look as though they are even of legal driving age.

#64 | Posted by dragfreedrift at 2019-01-21 06:25 AM | Reply

Fuller Picture Emerges of Viral Video Between Native American Man and Catholic Students

www.nytimes.com

#65 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 07:48 AM | Reply

As white people tell the world:

Are you going to beleive me or your lyin eyes?

#66 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-01-21 08:05 AM | Reply

It went from "------ Youth for Trump Threaten Decorated Native American Veteran" to "It's Complicated". Those that rushed to judgement because the narrative confirmed their bias have been very visibly played multiple times this week. The NYT article is still pretty weak, you'll have to invest an hour of time and watch the complete video to make an informed judgement.

#67 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 08:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Well, CNN is softening their tone for sure. Not that any of you already jumped to your predestined conclusions.

www.cnn.com

#68 | Posted by hoser at 2019-01-21 08:14 AM | Reply

And the there is the student's side of the story

www.cnn.com

#69 | Posted by hoser at 2019-01-21 08:22 AM | Reply

"Not that any of you already jumped to your predestined conclusions."

A woman at the rally in the original video said the boys were "acting like a mob" so it wasn't just the NA elder who got that impression in real time (or when watching the video):

Arlen Parsa @arlenparsa

In the original video of the #CovingtonCatholic kids and the Native elder, there's a moment where this one woman points out that the kids are acting like a mob.

"You guys are acting like a mob, that's what's going on. ------- mob mentality... you guys are what, like 16?"
6:43 AM - 20 Jan 2019

twitter.com

#70 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 09:03 AM | Reply

I wonder how the student, Sandmann, motioned to another student when he didn't make any hand gestures and remained locked in eye contact with the elder, because according to the statement his PR firm released:

I never interacted with this protestor. I did not speak to him. I did not make any hand gestures or other aggressive moves... . During the period of the drumming, a member of the protestor's entourage began yelling at a fellow student that we "stole our land" and that we should "go back to Europe." I heard one of my fellow students begin to respond. I motioned to my classmate and tried to get him to stop engaging with the protestor, as I was still in the mindset that we needed to calm down tensions.

#71 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 09:08 AM | Reply

Noted racists Comrades Nulli and visitor are propagandizing hard in this thread.
Vlad is proud.

#72 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-01-21 09:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

That douche bag can't undo the video. It's there for everyone to watch. You can't back-up time. He did what he did. He exposed his inner bigot. F him!

#73 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 09:17 AM | Reply

Patriots Beat Chiefs! *DEVELOPING*

#74 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2019-01-21 09:20 AM | Reply

Nick Sandmann ought to use this like David Hogg and become a leader against anti-Catholic bigotry.

#75 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-21 09:24 AM | Reply

"During the period of the drumming, a member of the protestor's entourage began yelling at a fellow student that we "stole our land" and that we should "go back to Europe."

And really, what is untrue about that statement? I'm not saying every European ancestor should go back to Europe but I do understand the resentment of Native Americans. Pretending their feelings are not fair is just ignoring the truth. We do owe them a huge debt which some of us want to deny but those same folks believe in property rights. Hard to make those two thoughts balance.

#76 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 09:25 AM | Reply

Smirking while white is the new blackface and should be punished by life in prison.

Fake news again....
They dont want to get sued like gawker. And they never admit fault they are going to gaslight the story by saying the whole ordeal was confusing, it wasn't especially for multimillion dollar companies that should have journalistic standards that have the resources to assign an intern to watch all the video not just a 10second clip. This will be an effort to diffuse the blame to other media outlets, twitter, youtube and especially the public, by the end of it the media will be lecturing the public to be careful of what they see on twotter. They will do this with a straight face without an ounce of irony. Then they will get up in arms the next time anyone calls them fake news pretending not to know why they call them this,

#77 | Posted by mutant at 2019-01-21 09:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Nick Sandmann ought to use this like David Hogg and become a leader against anti-Catholic bigotry."

Nulli basically announcing he just hates everyone. We already knew Nulli.

#78 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 09:26 AM | Reply

This probably explains why Sandmann's statement was released by a PR firm:

Julie Weis Sandmann has been the vice president of Relationship Management at Fidelity Investments since 2015 and began her career with Fidelity in 1999 but spent several years in between as a client manager at Paycor.

heavy.com

#79 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 09:29 AM | Reply

It's all on video to be watched by anyone who cares and to be judged by them according to their ideas of decency. Personally, I think that punk should have his face punched hard. What a total piece of crap. That is truly what I think.

#80 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 09:36 AM | Reply

When you wear a symbol of America's most prominent white nationalist, people can rightfully presume you are a racist.

#81 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-21 09:52 AM | Reply

"Personally, I think that punk should have his face punched hard. What a total piece of crap. That is truly what I think."

If someone told you this was a quote from Trump or one of his geriatric supporters talking about a protester at one of his rallies, you wouldn't even doubt it and proceed to call them out for the horrible person they are.

Good to know that Danni and Aborted_Muslin are on record supporting assaults against minors.

#82 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 09:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"If someone told you this was a quote from Trump or one of his geriatric supporters talking about a protester at one of his rallies, you wouldn't even doubt it and proceed to call them out for the horrible person they are."

But is wasn't. It was a punk kid facing off with a Vietnam Veteran who is also a Native American and someone who deserves respect. F that punk. He's now added being a liar to his resume.

#83 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 10:06 AM | Reply

"Good to know that Danni and Aborted_Muslin are on record supporting assaults against minors."

Cuz you're such a pacifist. Liar.

#84 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 10:09 AM | Reply

MLK Famous Quotes On Nonviolence

mlk.wsu.edu

#85 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 10:13 AM | Reply

US teen denies mocking Native American

www.bbc.com

#86 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 10:21 AM | Reply

From the BBC:

"Mr Phillips then approached the students, singing and beating a drum, in what he called a prayer to defuse tensions."

Weird behavior to diffuse a situation, get in someone's face and beat a drum.

The kid stood motionless in what I would categorize as an example of remarkable restraint, lest any movement be mistaken as hostility by a possibly deranged individual beating a drum in his face.

#87 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 10:30 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Douche bag. Next.

#88 | Posted by gavaster at 2019-01-21 10:34 AM | Reply

The kid stood motionless in what I would categorize as an example of remarkable restraint, lest any movement be mistaken as hostility by a possibly deranged individual beating a drum in his face.

Yeah, he's a real american hero.

#89 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-21 10:35 AM | Reply

I've been to my fair share of rallies and protests. Usually you find outspoken people there prepared to be outspoken about their beliefs. People of all sides carry that kid's smirk around on their faces. They often say or do or wear stupid things. That kid kinda reminds me of myself at that age (that was only ten years ago).

The MAGA hat is very much like the swastika-- it provokes a certain reaction. You don't wear a hat like that and go around feeding homeless kittens and puppies. You wear that hat to provoke a response.

Old people are dealing with a lot of ----. Whether you agree with their politics or not, they should be respected-- unless they are going around bombing brown skinned people's countries and pretending it is done to protect your sorry ass.

#90 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-21 10:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Making America great again hat and smirking is like the swastika. And being white is like being a KKK member. Got it!

#91 | Posted by mutant at 2019-01-21 10:52 AM | Reply

"Cuz you're such a pacifist. Liar."
#84 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2019-01-21 10:09 AM

You should delete your account. I can almost guarantee this will come back to haunt you.

#92 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 10:53 AM | Reply

"And being white is like being a KKK member. Got it!"

Stop with your wooden-headed logical fallacies. Go ahead and walk around while white-- people will tend to treat you like a normal human being. I do it all the time. One thing I don't go around wearing is a swastika or a MAGA hat. Because both are worn to label the wearer as well as provoke a certain reaction and counter-reaction.

#93 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-21 10:59 AM | Reply

"The kid stood motionless in what I would categorize as an example of remarkable restraint, lest any movement be mistaken as hostility by a possibly deranged individual beating a drum in his face."

The kid got in his face and challenged him to do something about it. The kid is a punk. So are you Vistor.

#94 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 11:09 AM | Reply

"And being white is like being a KKK member. Got it!"

No, being white is not like being a member of the KKK but wearing a MAGA hat is.

#95 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 11:10 AM | Reply

Because both are worn to label the wearer as well as provoke a certain reaction and counter-reaction.
#93 | POSTED BY NERFHERDER

So its the woman's fault?

#96 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-01-21 11:11 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"So its the woman's fault"

Andrea going for the logical fallacy win!

Let me play that game-- if you aim a gun at a cop and then get shot and killed, then the cop should go to jail for murder!

#97 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-21 11:14 AM | Reply

"And being white is like being a KKK member. Got it!" - #91 | Posted by mutant at 2019-01-21 10:52 AM

While it is true that very few white people are KKK members, it is equally true that all KKK members are white people.

#98 | Posted by Hans at 2019-01-21 11:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We went from a MAGA hat is a swastika to a MAGA hat is a deadly weapon. Hyperbole much?

#99 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 11:22 AM | Reply

Dave Chappelle would disagree.

#100 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 11:23 AM | Reply

Those Black Hebrew Israelites could sometimes be found where I used to live in downtown Baltimore. They are really good at debating and they know their bible. LOL that the mother of MAGAboy called them Black Muslims.

#101 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-21 11:27 AM | Reply

"The kid stood motionless in what I would categorize as an example of remarkable restraint, lest any movement be mistaken as hostility by a possibly deranged individual beating a drum in his face.

#87 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2019-01-21 10:30 AM | FLAG: "

You may have seen this and I fully expect the DR right to support your view, but I suspect the majority of viewers without your partisan bias sees a smug white kid with a MAGA hat and an insufferable smirk seeking to intimidate an elderly Indian chief. Good luck in the court of public opinion with those optics

#102 | Posted by Foreigner at 2019-01-21 11:59 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You've seen picture with captions that confirm your bias and I've seen multi videos, some lasting over an hour, that show what happened prior to this image.

Smug white kid, insufferable smirk seeking to intimidate, you can get that from an image? If the races were reversed what would you see?

#103 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 12:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"you can get that from an image?"

It was minutes long video, the kid right in the Vietnam Veteran and Native American's face. He's a punk and so are you.

#104 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 12:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Kathy Griffin is calling for the students to have their identities revealed so that she and others can hold them accountable for their actions."

And just what "actions" would that be, dingbat? It has already been proven that the accusations against them were FALSE.

It's a shame some can't be bothered to watch the whole video before making embarrassing posts.

#105 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-01-21 12:16 PM | Reply

"Good luck in the court of public opinion with those optics"

There really are no words to express how useless the idiots are who keep pushing a narrative even after it's been proven to be false. This is backfiring even worse than Warren's attempt to use bogus race science to paint herself as a victim, and her supporters kept banging on about it even after she was smart enough to shut her trap.

#106 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 12:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Boy, it's unlike you guys not to excuse a child for being a dumbass.

Newsflash....these incidents happen all the time, by both sides of the coin.

At least the high school kid didn't "viciously roundhouse kick" Elizabeth Warren's dad.

#107 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 12:21 PM | Reply

"If the races were reversed what would you see""

I'd see a smug, native american kid wearing a MAGA hat seeking to intimidate an aged, downtrodden white guy beating a drum.

I'd also see unicorns and mermaids and manticores and centaurs and bulbasaurs and other mythical creatures. By then I'd probably realize that the mushroom sandwich that I had for lunch probably wasn't made with portabella and so I'd go sit quietly in some corner and wait several hours for the effects to wear off.

#108 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-21 12:22 PM | Reply

"You've seen picture with captions that confirm your bias and I've seen multi videos, some lasting over an hour, that show what happened prior to this image.

Smug white kid, insufferable smirk seeking to intimidate, you can get that from an image? If the races were reversed what would you see?
#103 | POSTED BY VISITOR_ AT 2019-01-21 12:12 PM | REPLY | FLAG:"

Given that the defenses of the kid all relate to some form of " jumping to conclusions" it's interesting that you assume that all I've seen is a picture. Wrong. I've watched a number of videos, particularly once I understood there is a back story, including a group called the Hebrew Israelites.

Try as I may, I cannot see anything in the behavior and demeanor of the kid to change my opinion; I tried looking at it from his perspective but I cannot change his smile from conveying white superiority to good natured banter; I cannot change his smirk into a sign of nerves or discomfort. Like I said, the optics are just not in the kids favor and probably don't deserve to be.

#109 | Posted by Foreigner at 2019-01-21 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If any significant wrong occurred in this incident it was with the parents and a church/school that promoted brainwashing of hatred and bigotry towards their fellow humans. While the various adults in the vicinity had an obvious agenda, control should have been maintained, such that the teens were never more than observers. When the situation was obviously getting out of hand, and could have easily degraded to violence, the chaperones of this group of boys should of had them move on.

These boys were obviously brought to Washington to act as pawns in a game they aren't old or mature enough to understand. Shame on the adults, both parents and school officials who encouraged these boys to wear inflammatory apparel. Shame on the small group of people who attempted to incite discontent between these boys and others in the area. Shame on elements of the media who tried to blow this up far bigger than it needed to be. There is plenty of shame to go around.

It's a shame that these children will never again have the blank canvas in their heads that allows self determination. Many of these kids are ruined. And many adults are to blame.

#110 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-01-21 01:07 PM | Reply

#23 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

You obviously missed the lecture, so here goes: having one's axx handed to them means getting chastised either verbally or physically. I cannot believe you are this thick, so I have to assume you're just another troll.

#111 | Posted by john47 at 2019-01-21 01:10 PM | Reply

#106 - I'm surprised you have no words. I thought Trumpers had all the good words.

The narrative has proven to be more complex and of course disputed, that I agree. But my original assertion is that the court of public opinion will not find in favor of the kid and rightly so in my view. You don't agree with me and that doesn't bother me in the least.

#112 | Posted by Foreigner at 2019-01-21 01:23 PM | Reply

1. A group is shouting insults and obscenities.
2. A grown man is meandering in the midst of some high school kids beating a drum in their faces.
3. A kid standing motionless and smiling.

#113 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 01:33 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't know if this photo of Sandmann is taken before or after he came face-to-face with Phillips, but Sandmann is obviously relaxed and laughing as he and his classmates watch Phillips drumming. None of the boys in this photo look scared, worried or traumatized in anyway (you may need to scroll down to see the picture, which accompanies this tweet):

Arlen Parsa @arlenparsa

Why have I decided not to share the #CovingtonCatholic kid's name? Because he's a kid.
A dumb kid. Maybe a racist kid. (more on this in a second)

But he's still a kid. Yes, I have confirmed he is under 18.
6:11 AM - 20 Jan 2019

twitter.com

#114 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 01:39 PM | Reply

"3. A kid standing motionless and smiling."

Did that occur before or after the above photo I linked to of Sandmann and his classmates laughingly watching Phillips drumming? I'm not sure it matters because the photo shows Sandmann isn't looking scared and confused as his PR statement claims. He looks relaxed, happy and like he enjoying himself:

Here's another way to look at the photo:

www.imperiox.net

#115 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 01:43 PM | Reply

The third paragraph is an obvious lie. "Hey, look - a schoolbus filled with kids - let's protest them!"

In fact, the CHILDREN were chanting "Build that wall! Build that wall!" at Black and Native Americans.

Southern Strategy is so alive and well one must consider these private religious institutions to be churning out future terrorists.

#116 | Posted by redlightrobot at 2019-01-21 01:46 PM | Reply

#111 | POSTED BY JOHN47 AT 2019-01-21 01:10 PM | FLAG: Cool, first troll of 2019 for my kill file

As if words like "throttled" and "punched hard" can be interpreted as verbal accostment.

#117 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 01:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wearing a MAGA hat while confronting a Native American? Now that is a display of ignorance that is amazing.

#2 | Posted by danni

Wearing a MAGA hat while doing ANYTHING is a display of ignorance that is amazing.

#118 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 01:56 PM | Reply

The bbc article said no such chants were picked up on the videos they had reviewed.
I can believe some high school kids would antagonize, but is there actual video of their supposed taunts?

#119 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 01:57 PM | Reply

Seems the four Bible preachers,(black Israelite) have a Bible I have never read.They seem to have used racial slurs freely. Seems the kids from the Catholic School were targeted because of their race,or perceived politics. Sorry I think getting in someone's face beating a drum rude. Of course if a fight had broke out, those adults engaged in that fight could be charged with assault upon a minor. Seems like a direct provocation, or it would be if the provocative behavior was conducted by the right upon a leftist group. Equal justice seems to be a myth today.

#120 | Posted by docnjo at 2019-01-21 01:59 PM | Reply

Let's say we took the worst version of the narrative we've been fed and swallowed it whole.

A group of teenagers behaving disrespectfully to an adult? Oh my, help me to my fainting couch.

Lots of phones and video documentation of the event if the boys were behaving in a physically threatening manner, show us.

#121 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 01:59 PM | Reply

So some black men are calling high school kids ------- (the dreaded N word) and -------, and ------ babies, but the thing the news and social media fixate on is a smirking white high school junior.

Nope, no agenda there, and you simps line up right on cue.

#122 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 02:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Why doesn't Kathy griffin want the names of the black men that are anti gay and calling children -------?

ILets talk about black privileged.

#123 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 02:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Matt Walsh
‏Verified account @MattWalshBlog

Black adults to white kids: "F*ggots, crackers, bigots, ------ kids."
White kids: [smiling, not responding]
Everyone: "omg did you see that smile?! So disrespectful!"
5:01 PM - 20 Jan 2019

#124 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-21 02:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#120 and #122 parsed: let's be fair-- look at the black guys!!!!!

#125 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-21 02:11 PM | Reply

"Seems the four Bible preachers,(black Israelite) have a Bible I have never read.They seem to have used racial slurs freely. Seems the kids from the Catholic School were targeted because of their race,or perceived politics."

The black Israelites also directed their comments at others who were there, including a black couple and the NAs themselves.

"Sorry I think getting in someone's face beating a drum rude."

That's what Sandmann says happened. Phillips claimed Sandmann stepped in front of him and wouldn't let him pass.

#126 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 02:14 PM | Reply

Why doesn't Kathy griffin want the names of the black men that are anti gay and calling children -------?

ILets talk about black privileged.

#123 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Maybe because those men aren't the president so they don't matter very much.

A bigot in the white house is a bigger deal that a bigot on the street.

If you weren't a moron that would be obvious to you.

#127 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 02:14 PM | Reply

A group of teenagers behaving disrespectfully to an adult? Oh my, help me to my fainting couch.

Lots of phones and video documentation of the event if the boys were behaving in a physically threatening manner, show us.

#121 | Posted by visitor_

It wasn't just a group of teenagers, they were all wearing the trump cult uniform. They were displaying that they are disciples of hate following a hateful leader.

If they had white hoods on their heads would you say it was just a group of teenagers?

#128 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 02:17 PM | Reply

"The bbc article said no such chants were picked up on the videos they had reviewed.
I can believe some high school kids would antagonize, but is there actual video of their supposed taunts?"

That phrase was not audible in video footage of the incident. Two other participants in the Indigenous Peoples March, and a photojournalist covering the march, told US media they had heard people chanting "build that wall" and "Trump 2020".

"Lots of phones and video documentation of the event if the boys were behaving in a physically threatening manner, show us."

Kaya Taitano, who filmed the video that went viral, told CNN: "I did not feel safe in that circle... they just surrounded him and they were mocking him."

#129 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 02:19 PM | Reply

Those Black Hebrew Israelites set up shop on my old street corner in Baltimore on occasion. They are equal opportunity harassers-- they use video cameras and bullhorns and get in everyone's face with their crazy ------ black white, brown etc. all are targets for their polemics. All of them wear robes and combat boots and so forth and there is always one head preacher dude with a staff waving a censer of frankincense and myrrh in everyone's face.

Perhaps those MAGA hat wearing kids from the all-white Catholic school run by an entire white faculty have never seen those types of things.

Let me know when one of those Black Hebrew Israelites makes his way into congress, or, better yet, POTUS. Otherwise, if you attend a circus, expect a circus.

#130 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-21 02:21 PM | Reply

A gang white boys laughing and smiling like that can be very intimidating.

#131 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 02:22 PM | Reply

It was a fairly large crowd, and different people heard and saw different things:

And a witness to the events said she and her mother "saw the Catholic kids mocking native Americans."

Jesscia Travis and her mother were visiting the Lincoln Memorial as dancers at the Indigenous Peoples' Day March were wrapping up. Travis said while she "did not see any direct bullying but I noted the kids appeared to be mocking and disrespectful."

She recalled that as she walked away "I mentally noted the kids were still loud and disrespectful. We then walked out into the common area at the bottom of the stairs. There were about 5 black men there who had been ‘preaching' but otherwise not bothering people. The kids – many wearing red MAGA hats – had surrounded the black men on the stairs. They were mocking them. I heard one tell them to just ‘drink the Trump water.' I recorded a video and posted on Facebook about how disrespectful the kids were."

"As my mother and I walked away, the kids started chanting very loudly. We were too far away to hear what they were saying but it was loud and aggressive and directed at the black men. I saw one kid jump down to where the black men were standing and rip off his shirt. Bare-chested, it appeared he beat his chest. The others laughed and jeered."

heavy.com

#132 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 02:28 PM | Reply

I urge everyone to be patient.

Eventually someone on the right will screw up badly enough to incontrovertibly support the narrative the press is trying to make and all of your bias will be confirmed. And you can all be righteous in your indignation.

This isn't that event.

#133 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 02:29 PM | Reply

If it was said, and they claim to have heard it, it's on video. Odd that nobody can identify the chant or anyone that said it...

Multiple videos of the same incident, and not one of them picked it up? Do you find that odd?
I find it odd that there isn't video of a group of high school teens doing something stupid and retaliating, personally. These kids are snowflakes afraid to fight back. They've been neutered.

#134 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 02:30 PM | Reply

Do these kids have access to time travel? Maybe they're the same white kids who firebombed Manisha's flat.

#135 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 02:34 PM | Reply

A gang white boys laughing and smiling like that can be very intimidating.

#131 | Posted by visitor_

Yeah kind of takes on a different feeling when the white boys are dressed in nazi, klan, or maga uniforms that suggest they are part of a hateful movement.

#136 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 02:35 PM | Reply

I urge everyone to be patient.

Eventually someone on the right will screw up badly enough to incontrovertibly support the narrative the press is trying to make and all of your bias will be confirmed. And you can all be righteous in your indignation.

This isn't that event.

#133 | Posted by visitor_

No that event was when the trump supporter tried to bomb everyone in the dem leadership.
Your cult has forgotten about that already?

#137 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 02:36 PM | Reply

honestly it's an excellent representation of our societies double standards with blacks and whites. blacks are held to such an incredibly low standard that society ignores their outrageously obnoxious behavior while whites, even teenagers, can have an attack campaigned against them for thought crimes, real or imagined.

#138 | Posted by mutant at 2019-01-21 02:37 PM | Reply

These are the kids that called John Lewis the n word at the tea party rally...
They have a special device that prevents inflammatory words from being recorded even though there are cameras everywhere!

#139 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 02:37 PM | Reply

Nazi, klan, or maga one of these things is not like the others.

#140 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-21 02:37 PM | Reply

I can't verify this but am posting because Heavy is usually pretty accurate in in its reporting:

WATCH: Covington Catholic Students in Blackface & Black Body Paint [Videos & Photos]

The Kentucky Catholic school at the center of the viral video of students wearing ‘Make America Great Again' apparel and seen mocking and taunting a Native American man at the Lincoln Memorial last Friday following the March for Life and Indigenous Peoples' Day March and rallies has a video on its YouTube channel that shows students at a 2012 basketball game with students wearing blackface and many covered in full black body paint. There's also images of the team screaming at an African-American player.

heavy.com

#141 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 02:38 PM | Reply

Nazi, klan, or maga one of these things is not like the others.

#140 | Posted by visitor_

Yeah one of them is new. The others are old.

The mentality, hatred, cult status, and ignorance are the same.

#142 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 02:40 PM | Reply

honestly it's an excellent representation of our societies double standards with blacks and whites. blacks are held to such an incredibly low standard that society ignores their outrageously obnoxious behavior while whites, even teenagers, can have an attack campaigned against them for thought crimes, real or imagined.

#138 | Posted by mutant

Yeah all those cops pull up and ignore black's behavior, but they shoot innocent white people immediately. That's what's been happening all over the country right? In bizzaro world where you live at least?

#143 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 02:42 PM | Reply

Yet there is still no video or audio evidence the kids said anything that has been claimed...

But 7 years ago kids that went to that high school did something bad.

Come on gal. That's weak Kung --.

#144 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 02:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

- maga uniforms

There's a maga uniform now? Wow.

#145 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-21 02:43 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

There's a maga uniform now? Wow.

#145 | Posted by nullifidian

Yeah it only costs $25 on trump's website.

Buy one now because he's going to need the money to pay his lawyers to defend his treasonous crimes.

#146 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 02:49 PM | Reply

I saw a photo online yesterday that purported to be the Covington Catholic basketball team with a MAGA banner propped up on the sideline in front of the team's bench. The claim was that the team had brought the banner to a game where they were playing an all black team. I can't find the photo now and didn't link to it because I doubted the photo was authentic. If it was authentic: when it was taken? Did the team really only bring the banner to that specific game?

If the blackface videos are real, its speaks to a culture of bigotry at the school. If the culture existed pre-Trump, I'd be surprised to learn it had changed radically and for the better in the last few years.

#147 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 02:55 PM | Reply

From CNN: www.cnn.com

#148 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2019-01-21 02:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Gal,
I'm not trying to put you on blast. It's simply that I can't fathom you don't see the problem with targeting these high school kids for something that isn't even on video, yet we have grown adults attacking the children with far more invective than a supposed wall chant, or tomahawk chops.
If that were white men hurling anti gay slurs and calling kids ------- you can bet that would be the story.

Why do you believe the black Israelites aren't the story? Even if what the kids are accused of doing is true, how can people still not be offended by the adults behavior? Especially gay activists? Isn't Kathy griffin a favorite amongst the gays?

#149 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 02:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Btw, I'm not offended by any of this nonsense.
When you show up to places with black Israelites, native Americans beating drums, activists of every ilk, and a group of male high school juniors on a field trip, you should assume ---- is going to get nuts.
What occurred is pretty tame.

#150 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 03:00 PM | Reply

#149 I've already said the Black Israelites taunts were despicable and not solely directed at the Catholic school boys.

#151 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 03:02 PM | Reply

It's simply that I can't fathom you don't see the problem with targeting these high school kids for something that isn't even on video
#149 | Posted by 101Chairborne

We can target them for what IS on video - proudly displaying their loyalty to a cult of white supremacy. That's what maga hats are for.

#152 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 03:11 PM | Reply

None of these idiot protesters in any of the three groups are the story. The story is how the media got duped and gave Trump and his supporters all the #fakenews ammunition they could have ever wanted.

#153 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 03:20 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So is this kid going to Harvard and be roommates with David Hogg?

#154 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-21 03:24 PM | Reply

"The story is how the media got duped"

By media do you mean social media, because this story went viral online before any television or print media picked it up.

#155 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 03:24 PM | Reply

"Lets talk about black privileged."

Okay, let's talk about black privileged.
Ill start with a simple question:
What is it???

#156 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-21 03:29 PM | Reply

"The story is how the media got duped"

The story was about a group of students who impeded a group of Native Americans. Literally circling the group. With smug boy inches away from the lead drummer's face.

The story is becoming about the mental gymnastics conservatives will leap through to excuse the actions of white kids.

#157 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-21 03:30 PM | Reply

More footage of these -------- kids mocking a native american veteran.

mobile.twitter.com

#158 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-21 03:38 PM | Reply

"So is this kid going to Harvard and be roommates with David Hogg?"

Or maybe Yale? To join the fraternity Brett Kavanaugh was in?

#159 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 03:48 PM | Reply

"By media do you mean social media, because this story went viral online before any television or print media picked it up."
#155 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY AT 2019-01-21 03:24 PM

Wow, so now going viral on social media is the standard for vetting television and print media?

#160 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 03:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The story is becoming about the mental gymnastics conservatives will leap through to excuse the actions of white kids.

#157 | Posted by ClownShack

Only DUMB RACIST white kids. Repubs will happily attack white kids who want gun control or climate preservation.

#161 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 03:59 PM | Reply

Facecrime vigilantes will not win in the 2020...

It was terribly dangerous to let your thoughts wander when you were in any public place or within range of a telescreen. The smallest thing could give you away. A nervous tic, an unconscious look of anxiety, a habit of muttering to yourself – anything that carried with it the suggestion of abnormality, of having something to hide. In any case, to wear an improper expression on your face (to look incredulous when a victory was announced, for example) was itself a punishable offense. There was even a word for it in Newspeak: facecrime, it was called

#162 | Posted by mutant at 2019-01-21 04:13 PM | Reply

Going to a Catholic school, these kids have enough to worry about with older male predators. The last thing they need is some creepy old guy invading their person space.

#163 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 04:18 PM | Reply

"Wow, so now going viral on social media is the standard for vetting television and print media?"

That's not what I said. I said the story was spread far and wide on social media and that's how most people heard about it. I saw a link to the video on FB. Just the video, without any MSM article attached to it.

#164 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 04:18 PM | Reply

#162 | Posted by mutant

Don't worry about stuff like that. Trump made it okay for all the racists and bigots to come out of the closet, take off their hoods, and put on maga hats. You dont have to live in shame any more. Your white supremacist cult leader has brought a new age to america.

#165 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 04:19 PM | Reply

"Going to a Catholic school, these kids have enough to worry about with older male predators. The last thing they need is some creepy old guy invading their person space."

In none of the videos I've seen do Sandmann and his classmates look like they are in the least bit worried about or intimidated by Phillips.

#166 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-21 04:22 PM | Reply

"Trump made it okay for all the racists and bigots to come out of the closet, take off their hoods, and put on maga hats."

Kind of like how the Catholic Church made it okay for grown men to interfere with underage boys while doing pagan chants and wearing funny clothes. Maybe that's why the elder thought it was okay to approach them.

#167 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 04:34 PM | Reply

"In none of the videos I've seen do Sandmann and his classmates look like they are in the least bit worried about or intimidated by Phillips."

None of the asshats in the videos look like they are worried or intimidated, yet they all claim to be.

#168 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 04:36 PM | Reply

#167

Not sure what your little anti-Catholic screed has to do with the topic. These kids ARE Catholics...

#169 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-21 04:41 PM | Reply

Kirsten Powers

@KirstenPowers
Replying to @KirstenPowers Interesting to note that when a white Vietnam vet was ridiculed on SNL the right went on a (justified) tear; when it's an Indigenous elder they fall all over themselves to justify the bad behavior.

6,566
5:06 PM - Jan 20, 2019

#170 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-01-21 04:42 PM | Reply

Just think how bad it would be if the Liberal schools hadn't indoctrinated these kids

/sarcasm

#171 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2019-01-21 04:45 PM | Reply

A gang white boys laughing and smiling like that can be very intimidating.

Chris Rock can explain it to you.

"You know, I was just in my hotel, a little while ago, on my way here...and I got in the elevator, right?
I'm getting in the elevator, and these two high-school white boys try to get on with me and I just dove off! I said, ''Y'all ain't killing me!''

I am scared of young white boys. If you white and under 21 I am running for the hills."

#172 | Posted by chuffy at 2019-01-21 04:51 PM | Reply

Some are calling for Kathy Griffin to be banned from Twitter for using it as a platform to doxx the school boys. I'd be surprised if she even gets suspended for it.

#173 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 04:55 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Kathy Griffith wanted to kill herself due to the fallout from her Trump severed head publicity stunt, and now she's trying to put these high school kids in that same place.
She's a sicko.

#174 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"That's not what I said. I said the story was spread far and wide on social media and that's how most people heard about it. I saw a link to the video on FB. Just the video, without any MSM article attached to it."

There were lots of MSM articles about it, from New York Times to Washington Post to Denver Post to CNN and many others. Some of them even continued to run with the original story after the extended video surfaced.

#175 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 05:04 PM | Reply

Kathy Griffith wanted to kill herself due to the fallout from her Trump severed head publicity stunt, and now she's trying to put these high school kids in that same place.
She's a sicko.

#174 | Posted by 101Chairborne

Yes you're so concerned about the poor high school kids.*

*Just the ones getting publicly outed as white supremacists, not the ones getting shot in school.

#176 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-21 05:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The kids were racists. The native elder priest was a pedophile. The black religious extremists were secret Muslims. Did I miss anyone?

#177 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 05:19 PM | Reply

Sentinel only supports child abuse on the US border.

#178 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-21 05:22 PM | Reply

"yet we have grown adults attacking the children"

Let's not bring Martin and Zimmerman into this, okay?

#179 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-21 05:40 PM | Reply

Has anyone watched the hour long unedited video?

More importantly has anyone noticed the number of MSM people and outlets that are dramatically changing their tune?

Danni,

You should take another look at this. You are basically advocating violence against minors.

#180 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-21 06:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sentinel only supports child abuse on the US border.
#178 | POSTED BY DIRKSTRUAN

Same as Hillary voters !!!

Only they also rape and murder, so much so they even voted for it !!!

#181 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-01-21 06:30 PM | Reply

Same as Hillary voters !!!

Only they also rape and murder, so much so they even voted for it !!!

#181 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS AT 2019-01-21 06:30 PM | FLAG:

Citation needed.

#182 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-21 06:34 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The native elder priest was a pedophile.
#177 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Wishful thinking.

Pervert.

#183 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-21 06:37 PM | Reply

You are basically advocating violence against minors.
#180 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

So does the NRA.

#184 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-21 06:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Has anyone watched the hour long unedited video?

I've seen every video posted of the encounter.

The Native Americans are walking towards the group of kids. But as soon as they get close, the kids surround them.

If those stupid kids wouldn't have blocked the Native Americans, let them continue on their path. None of us would be discussing this.

More importantly has anyone noticed the number of MSM people and outlets that are dramatically changing their tune?

Yea. Because enough time has passed for conservatives to restructure the event and spin the story.

Like you're attempting to do.

#185 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-21 06:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"When you show up to places with black Israelites, native Americans beating drums, activists of every ilk, and a group of male high school juniors on a field trip wearing MAGA hats, you should assume ---- is going to get nuts."

FTFY And, behonest, are you going to pretend the MAGA hats weren't meant to intimidate?

#186 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-21 06:49 PM | Reply

"You are basically advocating violence against minors."

LOL, who is advocating violence? That's just ridiculous.

#187 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-21 07:41 PM | Reply

"Cannot wait until these punks get their asses flat out throttled, just a matter of time."
#4 | POSTED BY ABORTED_MONSON AT 2019-01-19 03:40 PM

"Personally, I think that punk should have his face punched hard. What a total piece of crap. That is truly what I think."
#80 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2019-01-21 09:36 AM

#188 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 07:47 PM | Reply

JeffJ did better, when he said "basically" meaning "almost but not quite."

Neither of those are advocate violence, any more than saying I wish I had a winning lottery ticket advocates the world to buy me one.

#189 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-21 07:51 PM | Reply

Great... now we are splitting hairs between wishing violence upon someone and advocating violence....

#190 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-21 07:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If those stupid kids wouldn't have blocked the Native Americans, let them continue on their path."

How were the kids even supposed to know the Native Americans wanted to pass? In none videos I've seen did they indicate that was their intention. The drunk chief even admitted he went over there to engage them, even though he contradicts himself several times. They can't both be trying to pass and at the same time trying to block them from preying on those poor older black men. (These are words from his own interview.)

#191 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-21 08:12 PM | Reply

"The drunk chief"

Look at that patented conservative victim-blaming...

#192 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-21 08:27 PM | Reply

FTFY And, behonest, are you going to pretend the MAGA hats weren't meant to intimidate?

#186 | POSTED BY DANNI

They were there for the right-to-life march.

They stumbled on this protest afterwards.

I never once felt intimidated by 'Hope and Change' paraphernalia.

But we should viciously attack kids because they donned a Trump hat. Nice.

#193 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-21 08:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"I never once felt intimidated by 'Hope and Change' paraphernalia."

Of course not. But then, it isn't the same.

#194 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-21 09:03 PM | Reply

I never once felt intimidated by 'Hope and Change' paraphernalia.

Did you get surrounded by a bunch of high school students holding the Obama "hope and change" posters, blocking your path and staring you down, while they were screaming a bunch of random noise?

Cause. I'm sure you would have felt somewhat intimidated by the encounter.

#195 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-21 10:00 PM | Reply

Frank Cotton wears a MAGA hat just to invite the fights.

#196 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-21 10:09 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Frank Cotton wears a MAGA hat just to invite the fights.

Makes sense.

#197 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-21 10:09 PM | Reply

linds @roflinds

The Covington Catholic boys harrassed my friends and I before the incident with Nathan Phillips even happened. I'm tired of reading things saying they were provoked by anyone else other than their own egos and ignorance

This video is short because we walked by and were surprised to be yelled at. I took my phone out to send it to my friends back home for a laugh. I simply could not ignore the media saying they were provoked so I posted it

Also for those asking the full details, the interaction wasnt very complicated. We walked by, they started yelling, we asked them how old they were, they replied "old enough", kept yelling, and we rolled our eyes and kept walking.

Last thing, for people wondering what they yelled, all we specifically heard was "MAGA", "Build the Wall", and some people say they hear "----" at the end of the video ok it's past my bedtime goodnight twitter

twitter.com

#198 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-22 12:21 AM | Reply

Yay, another edited out of context video by some hack with an agenda.

#199 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 09:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If real, then relevant:

Amee Vanderpool @girlsreallyrule

Latest Covington Catholic video from the Lincoln Memorial incident on Friday has surfaced where one of the students yells, "It's not rape if you enjoy it!"

Good luck spinning this one...

twitter.com

#200 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-22 10:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"It's not rape if you enjoy it!"

Great.

A whole school of Bart O'Kavenaughs.

#201 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-22 10:57 AM | Reply

"A whole school of Bart O'Kavenaughs."

I attemded on like that when I lived in the hell hole known as Mississippi.

#202 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-22 11:16 AM | Reply

where were the adults? Jesus....they let this get out of hand and it could have been prevented.

How many were there? 100K? 300K? many are teenagers who take a pilgrimage there for the march.

a few get out of line with another protester where no violence occurred and it's this big of a deal?

get a ------ life, people.

#203 | Posted by eberly at 2019-01-22 11:17 AM | Reply

But we should viciously attack kids because they donned a Trump hat. Nice.

No, we should just point out, whenever possible how diagusting MAGA "culture" is, including when a group of teenagers wearing the most prominent modern symbol of racism mock a native american veteran.

#204 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-22 11:26 AM | Reply

This is a nice attempt at generating political divide.

Did it work? move the needle anywhere?

I realize this march scares a lot of people who have to believe abortion rights at the federal level are in jeopardy.

they aren't and stories like this don't make a difference anyway.

#205 | Posted by eberly at 2019-01-22 11:34 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#198 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY

This poster has already been discredited.

But Danforth lapps it up as gospel.

Idiots.. it's unbelievable.

#206 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-01-22 11:35 AM | Reply

"they aren't and stories like this don't make a difference anyway."

If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around, does it make a sound?

It does if the media makes the sound in its place.

#207 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2019-01-22 11:37 AM | Reply

"#198 | POSTED BY GAL_TUESDAY
This poster has already been discredited."

Andrea makes a fool of herself again. Andrea, a little advice, never go up against Gal. She will eat you alive because she has more information that perhaps anyone who posts here.

#208 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-22 11:45 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

207

well, "social" media to be specific. And that's fine. It's fine that someone filmed it and it got posted....but as we can see, the twisting and taking out of context on both sides makes it such a circus/

And in the end....nothing changes anyway.

#209 | Posted by eberly at 2019-01-22 11:45 AM | Reply

"I realize this march scares a lot of people who have to believe abortion rights at the federal level are in jeopardy."

They are with the latest theft of a Seat on the SC. And yes it was a theft, Garland was never given a hearing by scumbat McConnell.

#210 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-22 11:47 AM | Reply

"This poster has already been discredited."

Link?

#211 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-22 12:01 PM | Reply

Latest Covington Catholic video from the Lincoln Memorial incident on Friday has surfaced where one of the students yells, "It's not rape if you enjoy it!"

Jacob 'Jake' Walter, 18, was arrested on Tuesday in northern Kentucky's Boone County, outside of Cincinnati, on charges of first-degree rape and first-degree sodomy.

Police say that the attack took place on Sunday, when the former All-State basketball player for Covington Catholic allegedly dismissed the woman's insistence that she wasn't feeling well and didn't want to have sex, and pinned her down and raped her until she bled.

www.dailymail.co.uk

#212 | Posted by reinheitsgebot at 2019-01-22 12:05 PM | Reply

#204 | POSTED BY JOE AT 2019-01-22 11:26 AM

So do you agree that the posts referenced in #188 are reprehensible and those posters should probably take a vacation?

#213 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 12:09 PM | Reply

"If real, then relevant:"

You're really not doing yourself any favors by continuing to push a dead narrative. Even if those are the same kids, how is it relevant to the original story? It doesn't change the fact that the MSM got caught up in a web of lies to falsely portray them as harassing the Native Americans, when it was actually the other way around.

#214 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 12:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

'Latest Covington Catholic video from the Lincoln Memorial incident on Friday has surfaced where one of the students yells, "It's not rape if you enjoy it!"
Good luck spinning this one...'

Oh look, another fake news clip debunked...

twitter.com

Let me know when you guys reach China.

#215 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 12:48 PM | Reply

What if I am wearing a MAGA hat and a group of immigrant rights people walk up waving a Mexican flag? Can I be triggered and punch one of them in the face?

#216 | Posted by jdmeth at 2019-01-22 01:48 PM | Reply

Twitter has suspended the account which instigated all of this with the deliberately edited video. Turns out that, even though it claimed to be a teacher from California named Talia, it was actually someone based in Brazil who posted 130 tweets a day, and there were a number of anonymous accounts retweeting it. Anyone wanna take a guess at where those were probably based?

#217 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 02:26 PM | Reply

I have no idea why but Sentinel seems so invested in this particular story. I don't care but it just seems sort of wierd.

#218 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-22 02:40 PM | Reply

Says the old bat that wants a minor punched in the face because he's white, and catholic...

#219 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-22 02:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

It doesn't change the fact that the MSM got caught up in a web of lies to falsely portray them as harassing the Native Americans, when it was actually the other way around.

#214 | POSTED BY SENTINEL AT 2019-01-22 12:38 PM | REPLY

they surrounded the guy after he walked up and started doing tomahawk chops. you suck dick at gaslighting.

#220 | Posted by Alexandrite at 2019-01-22 02:45 PM | Reply

"because he's white, and catholic..."

#219 | POSTED BY 101CHAIRBORNE

Projection. Just because you confederate welfare queens are prejudiced on skin color and religion does not mean We the People are the same. Its possible to want to punch the ---- because of this ------ character. When people treat you like crap, its probably because you're a piece of ----, not your skin color.

#221 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-01-22 02:52 PM | Reply

"punched in the face because he's white, and catholic..."

Don't pull a muscle stretching!

#222 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-22 02:52 PM | Reply

When people treat you like crap, its probably because you're a piece of ----, not your skin color.

#221 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES AT 2019-01-22 02:52 PM

Obviously speaking from long experience of being treated like crap.

#223 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-01-22 03:07 PM | Reply

I STILL haven't seen a MAGA hat in real life - and I was in El Cajon recently.

#224 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-01-22 03:18 PM | Reply

224

I'm in Kansas and I've seen a grand total of 2.

#225 | Posted by eberly at 2019-01-22 03:21 PM | Reply

225

My county here in SoCal is about 80-90% Hispanic, so I understand not seeing one here, but NEVER in east San Diego County? I'm always in El Cajon, Lakeside, Santee, La Mesa, etc. Surely I ought to have seen one by now.

#226 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-01-22 03:28 PM | Reply

"#218 | POSTED BY DANNI"

I have no idea why Danni is invested in clinging to a narrative that was started by foreign propaganda actors. I don't care but it just seems sort of weird, especially for someone who threw around words like treasonous and traitors all the time.

I do care about the fact that low life scum bags are advocating violence against minors.

#227 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 03:32 PM | Reply

No, we should just point out, whenever possible how diagusting MAGA "culture" is, including when a group of teenagers wearing the most prominent modern symbol of racism mock a native american veteran.

#204 | POSTED BY JOE

Are you aware that over a 2 hour period these kids were relentlessly mocked, insulted and threatened by adults and the video of the kid smiling at the guy drumming was only a tiny sliver of their time there? Are you aware that the guy drumming walked right up to these kids - he approached them, not the other way around?

If the worst these kids did in response was to do some air-tomahawks...your disdain is grossly misplaced if the answer to my questions above is "yes". If the answer is "no" then I can understand where you are coming from.

#228 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-22 03:32 PM | Reply

It doesn't change the fact that the MSM got caught up in a web of lies to falsely portray them as harassing the Native Americans, when it was actually the other way around.

#214 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

Yep. Some of the better journos, like Jake Tapper, posted Twitter apologies after getting the full scope of the story. Heck, even a NRO writer reacted harshly - they ended up deleting the post and the editors issued a lengthy apology and explanation.

#229 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-22 03:36 PM | Reply

#225 I have yet to see one.

#230 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-22 03:39 PM | Reply

You're more likely to see a Che Guevera beret or t-shirt in California. Never seen a maga cap.

#231 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-22 03:47 PM | Reply

Are you aware that over a 2 hour period these kids were relentlessly mocked, insulted and threatened by adults and the video of the kid smiling at the guy drumming was only a tiny sliver of their time there?

Look at the video i posted in #204 of them mocking the native american vet. They don't look shattered by what you describe. They are having a blast.

Are you aware that the guy drumming walked right up to these kids - he approached them, not the other way around?

Are you aware that most peoples' reaction to a native american walking up to them with a drum might not be to mock them, and that their cancerous MAGA culture likely informed their reaction?

#232 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-22 03:48 PM | Reply

Native American vet...that's like 2 levels of faux respect deserved!

#233 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2019-01-22 03:57 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

The Louisville Courier Journal first reported last night that a GOP-aligned PR firm run (along with two other partners) by a paid CNN commentator, Scott Jennings, was the outfit behind the published testimonial of Nick Sandmann, the high school junior got into that stand-off with Native American activist Nathan Phillips in DC on Friday. But there's more! Jennings was also a key player in the US Attorney firing scandal way back when. Here's a search for Scott Jennings and ‘Iglesias', the last name of the New Mexico US Attorney he was instrumental in firing for not pushing enough bogus voter fraud cases.
Sure you want to jump into this boat destined to go down like the Titanic?

Typical scumbag GOP spinmeisters doing what they're paid millions to do: spin reality into the narrative they can sell to their gullible, bigoted buyers.

#234 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-22 03:59 PM | Reply

Joe,

I just watched the video. Twice. It looked like they were dancing and jumping around to the beat of the drum and the vet's chants.

It didn't look disrespectful to me and it certainly didn't look racist.

and that their cancerous MAGA culture likely informed their reaction?

You don't know them and neither do I. You have no idea what their culture is, nor do I.

Are you condoning the actions of adults who mocked, insulted and threatened these kids?

#235 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-22 04:00 PM | Reply

Jeff the Coddler, up to his old game.

#236 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-22 04:04 PM | Reply

Typical scumbag GOP spinmeisters doing what they're paid millions to do: spin reality into the narrative they can sell to their gullible, bigoted buyers.

#234 | POSTED BY TONYROMA

This guy is a scumbag GOP spinmeister?

Matthew Schmitz

@matthewschmitz
Replying to @matthewschmitz
Here is a video clearly showing that Nathan Phillips approached the students. On the basis of the evidence we now have, I believe that people who issued categorical and one-sided condemnations of the students should retract and apologize.

14.2K
9:29 AM - Jan 20, 2019

#237 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-22 04:05 PM | Reply

"You don't know them and neither do I."

So what? You don't a lot of people that you presumably have no problem condemning.

#238 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-22 04:08 PM | Reply

I just watched the video. Twice. It looked like they were dancing and jumping around to the beat of the drum and the vet's chants.
It didn't look disrespectful to me

You think club dancing and laughing to some native drummer is respectful? Okay...

and it certainly didn't look racist.

Well if you won't even acknowledge the former i don't expect you to admit to the latter.

If people want to pretend a MAGA hat isn't the most prominent sumbol of racism in America today, and that these kids weren't obviously disrespectful little -----, i don't really have time for them.

#239 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-22 04:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Here is the full video:

www.youtube.com

It is what it is, Tony. There is no spinning what's on the video and it largely corroborates the kids' version of what went on.

#240 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-22 04:08 PM | Reply

#239 | POSTED BY JOE

Do you condone adults mocking, insulting and threatening these kids?

Have you watched any of the video outside of the original clip that was shown without context?

#241 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-22 04:10 PM | Reply

How dare those journalists retract their stories condemning these kids...don't they have any idea of how harmful that is to the Narrative!!!?

-TonyJoeIndyRoma

#242 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-01-22 04:13 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

don't they have any idea of how harmful that is to the Narrative!!!?

-TonyJoeIndyRoma

#242 | Posted by Rightocenter

What is this "narrative" you speak of Comrade?

And who's "narrative" are you really concerned with?

#243 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-22 04:18 PM | Reply

Yours, Comrade...on both accounts.

#244 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-01-22 04:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

Yours, Comrade...on both accounts.

#244 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2019-01-22 04:24 PM | FLAG:

Yeah, let's all ignore the conservative PR firm in back of these kids (who probably just had it on speed dial, right?).

#245 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-22 04:28 PM | Reply

"over a 2 hour period these kids were relentlessly mocked, insulted and threatened by adults"

These kids were themselves threatening to take women's rights away.

That's why they were marching in the first place.

#246 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-22 04:30 PM | Reply

I am glad everyone had such a good time in our Nations capital.

I hope it was a learning experience and hurry up and destroy one of them so we can get on the next weirdness.

I put my money on the Native American getting crushed. Should be pretty easy to destroy him.

He is old and I bet there are plenty of skeletons in his past to exploit.

It won't be the kid. He had a MAGA hat. He will just get a gofundme page.

#247 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-22 04:40 PM | Reply

225 226: Must be that willful ignorance acting up. I couldn't even avoid seeing maga inbreds at Heathrow.

#223 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Was I right? You'd sure know a thing or two about being treated like crap; is it because you're white or is it because you're a piece of ----?

#248 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-01-22 04:48 PM | Reply

Do you condone adults mocking, insulting and threatening these kids?

Why do you keep changing the subject? And why won't you acknowledge that any purported harassment of the kids didn't seem to faze them as shown in the video of them mocking a native vet in #204?

#249 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-22 04:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Do you condone adults mocking, insulting and threatening these kids?"

Yes they do. They hate the kids because they see in them a reflection of the partisan hacks in themselves. So they're totally cool with the lies and abuse and threats, even it means the backlash helps Trump win again next year and it hurts America.

#250 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 04:54 PM | Reply

248 I haven't been to England since 1985, so wouldn't know what they've got going. As I said, the county I live in is nearly monothically Hispanic, so not a lot of Trump stuff going on here, but I travel through at least nominal Trump Territory on a regular basis. Nada. Maybe it's just that SoCal Trumpers have a better sense of style.

#251 | Posted by Karabekian at 2019-01-22 04:55 PM | Reply

"Why do you keep changing the subject?"

In case you hadn't noticed, the subject of this thread was literally changed by a site administrator a long time ago now.

#252 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 04:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#250 | POSTED BY SENTINEL

If opposing racism is bad for the US, you'd actually oppose racism.

#253 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-01-22 04:59 PM | Reply

#249

Changing the subject? It's germane to this topic.

I'm not sure why you are so reluctant to answer the question.

That they were unfazed doesn't make it right. The Vet appears unfazed too but you clearly have a huge problem with how the kids initially reacted when he walked over to them.

I remember being pilloried for factually correcting some of David Hoggs' statements. No insults just factual corrections. I was lectured that he was just a kid. Yet people are advocating and wishing violence on these kids and we're getting very little condemnation of that.

Yes, David Hogg is not germane to this topic.

#254 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-22 05:02 PM | Reply

"That they were unfazed doesn't make it right."

Was a police report filed?
If not, there was no rape.

#255 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-22 05:04 PM | Reply

Yet people are advocating and wishing violence on these kids and we're getting very little condemnation of that.

#254 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Why are these things so difficult for you to understand?

Condemning a kid for protesting gun violence is not the moral equivalence of condemning kids for harassing a person just because they are nonwhite. You must have your blinders set to their default "full" position today, huh?

#256 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-01-22 05:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's funny reading all these posts excusing these kids.

Good job conservatives on your need to circle around these white kids and protect them from themselves.

Bunch of disrespectful brats condoning the actions of a bunch of disrespectful high school kids full of white privileged.

#257 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-22 05:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Why are these things so difficult for you to understand?

Well. The kids were white.

There were scary black people around.

And an old brown guy was drumming while in their proximity.

Clearly the kids did what our DR conservatives would have done.

Circled the brown guys and started screaming at them.

Why is America being critical of white kids?

It's the black and brown people! They're to blame!!

#258 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-22 05:18 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

That they were unfazed doesn't make it right

I never said it was right. I said it doesn't excuse their behavior as you seem to suggest. There can be more than one ------ person in the world, you know.

#259 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-22 05:20 PM | Reply

#257 | POSTED BY CLOWNSHACK AT 2019-01-22 05:14 PM

This is why I don't killfile Clownsnack. Unlike the other low-IQ trolls here, he/she is actually funny sometimes with OTT self-retorting retorts.

#260 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 05:20 PM | Reply

helps Trump win again next year and it hurts America.

#250 | Posted by sentinel

Like YOU did last time?

Look what you did!!! You made a -----!

You must be so proud!!!

#261 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-22 05:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

There is no spinning what's on the video and it largely corroborates the kids' version of what went on.
#240 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Says the guy spinning as fast as he can.

How close did those kids get to the Native Americans?

Why were they impeding them from continuing?

Why stare the lead drummer down? Literally inches away from him.

Stop. Just stop.

Your excuses are revolting.

The kids need to be taught respect.

There's nothing in the unedited video that shows anything differently.

Just a bunch of racist conservatives. Protecting their racist children.

#262 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-22 05:24 PM | Reply

helps Trump win again next year and it hurts America.
#250 | Posted by sentinel

Condemning racism helps Trump and hurts America?

Only in the twisted mind of a Trumpublican.

#263 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-22 05:26 PM | Reply

Bitter clingers stick to debunked narrative. Sad.

#264 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-22 05:27 PM | Reply

Here's an example of what's allowed at Covington Catholic when they're playing basketball against another school.

Just a group of poor misunderstood young cherubs heckling an opposing black player while some wear blackface and black body paint.

Stay classy CC.

#265 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-22 05:39 PM | Reply

Sad.

#264 | Posted by visitor_

I don't really care. Do you?

But, at least we have a new word.

MAGAHATTED

Nicely done America!

Way to teach the Children.

Thank Gawd we finally have a decent Presidential role model for the Children, eh?

#266 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-22 05:41 PM | Reply

#266

Or MAGAHATS.

Seems appropriate.

#267 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-22 05:43 PM | Reply

"Condemning racism helps Trump and hurts America?

Only in the twisted mind of a Trumpublican."

That's Sentinel to a "t."

#268 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-22 05:45 PM | Reply

Bitter clingers stick to debunked narrative. Sad.

#264 | Posted by visitor_

The narrative is a bunch of bigots were displaying their bigotry. Nothing has debunked that.

A meeting of people wearing maga hats is the same as a meeting of people wearing white hoods. It's a gathering of white supremacists.

Even if they didn't harass anyone, simply meeting in public while wearing the modern uniform of bigotry and hatred, they deserve to have their faces publicized so everyone can see what they stand for.

This is why yesterday's racists were so much smarter than yall. They knew to cover their faces.

#269 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-22 05:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Here's an example of what's allowed at Covington Catholic when they're playing basketball against another school.

Tony.

These kids are white.

Stop being critical of them.

We wouldn't want to judge them based on their actions in high school.

Many of these kids will have bright futures as Supreme Court judges.

#270 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-22 05:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Bitter clingers stick to debunked narrative. Sad.
#264 | Posted by visitor_

Debunked? Only by racist conservatives.

Like you.

#271 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-22 05:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is why yesterday's racists were so much smarter than yall. They knew to cover their faces.

Newsworthy.

#272 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-22 05:49 PM | Reply

Or MAGAHATS.

Seems appropriate.

#267 | Posted by tonyroma

Americans are basically lazy.

We will eventually just shorten it to MAGATS.

Probably by next week it will catch on.

#273 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-22 05:53 PM | Reply

Many of these kids will have bright futures as Supreme Court judges.

#270 | Posted by ClownShack

Hopefully they still like Beer.

A lot.

#274 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-22 05:54 PM | Reply

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." -- #MayaAngelou
I went to catholic schools for 13 out of 17 years (kindergarten through 4 years of college) No chaperone from any of my schools would have allowed a group of us students to act as those kids did other than in college because we were already autonomous adults. Nothing those kids did emulated the teachings of the biblical Jesus known throughout the catholic religion. They did not do as Jesus would have done.

That doesn't make them bad kids, but their behavior as representatives of a catholic school and as wards of their chaperones was horrendous. The incendiary Hebrew group hectoring the kids was equally if not more egregious but that does not absolve the teens. They and their chaperones are receiving exactly the kind of reaction they deserve.

#275 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-22 05:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We will eventually just shorten it to MAGATS.

It already is phonetically. The H and the second A are both silent. 😉

#276 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-22 05:59 PM | Reply

"They and their chaperones are receiving exactly the kind of reaction they deserve."

This is where you totally lose the plot. Because some kids were naughty on a field trip, you're defending the original foreign backed propaganda edit and subsequent threats of violence as a "kind of reaction they deserve".

#277 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 06:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Because some kids were naughty on a field trip

#277 | Posted by sentinel

A white supremacist rally is just kids being naughty.

And 9/11 was just muslims going through their rebellious phase.

#278 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-22 06:11 PM | Reply

"#265 | POSTED BY TONYROMA"

As terrible as that is if true, it has nothing to do with the events in this story other than to show how desperate people are to try to excuse the original hoax. So far, it turns out these specific kids were the least obnoxious party at the memorial. You're behaving just like the Black Israelites who were heckling them.

#279 | Posted by sentinel at 2019-01-22 06:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"foreign backed propaganda edit"

Say what?

#280 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-22 06:18 PM | Reply

"So far, it turns out these specific kids were the least obnoxious party at the memorial."

That's a matter of opinion.

My opinion is the people marching to strip others of their rights were the most obnoxious.

But since you're okay with stripping people of their rights, you don't see it that way.

#281 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-22 06:21 PM | Reply

Was I right?

#248 | POSTED BY INDIANAJONES AT 2019-01-22 04:48 PM

You tell me, since it was obvious to everyone (except you) that I was talking about you.

Either your reading comprehension still sux, you are intentionally obtuse or you really are as dumb as a bar of soap.

#282 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2019-01-22 06:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

these specific kids were the least obnoxious party at the memorial. You're behaving just like the Black Israelites who were heckling them.

#279 | Posted by sentinel

Holding a gathering wearing klan robes or MAGA hats is intentionally inflamatory. You are parading white supremacy.
That's not obnoxious to YOU because you agree with their agenda.

#283 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-22 06:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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