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Sunday, January 13, 2019

President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said.



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Looking at the image at the top of this article (foreignpolicy.com), taken as the two were leaving their private meeting, it looks as if Pres Trump has just been read the riot act by Pres Putin. Pres Trump has been pwnd.

One can only wonder what Pres Putin said to Pres Trump to make Pres Trump look so meek in the image.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-12 08:40 PM | Reply

The artice in #1 speculaties "but that may not be enough to quell Republican furor."

Turns out there is no Republican furor.

Congratulations, Republicans, you built that!

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-12 08:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

OK, no one else asked The Question, so I might as well do it...

Why did Pres Trump think that the conversations with Pres Putin should not be allowed to follow the regular dissemination and archival processes?

Many US Presidents have had conversations with foreign head of states without needing the evidence of those conversations be destroyed.

What is so special about these particular conversations that Pres Trump feels that he has to destroy the evidence of them?

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-12 11:07 PM | Reply

More from the cited article...

...As a result, U.S. officials said there is no detailed record, even in classified files, of Trump's face-to-face interactions with the Russian leader at five locations over the past two years.

Such a gap would be unusual in any presidency, let alone one that Russia sought to install through what U.S. intelligence agencies have described as an unprecedented campaign of election interference....

#4 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-12 11:46 PM | Reply

"Former U.S. officials said that Trump's behavior is at odds with the known practices of previous presidents, who have relied on senior aides to witness meetings and take comprehensive notes then shared with other officials and departments.

Trump's secrecy surrounding Putin "is not only unusual by historical standards, it is outrageous," said Strobe Talbott, a former deputy secretary of state now at the Brookings Institution, who participated in more than a dozen meetings between President Bill Clinton and then-Russian President Boris Yeltsin in the 1990s.

"It handicaps the U.S. government -- the experts and advisers and Cabinet officers who are there to serve [the president] -- and it certainly gives Putin much more scope to manipulate Trump."

#5 | Posted by Corky at 2019-01-12 11:57 PM | Reply

@#5 ... it certainly gives Putin much more scope to manipulate Trump." ...

That's an important point. A very important point.

The more of the Pres Trump Pres Putin interactions that Pres Trump chooses to hide from normal procedures, the more Kompromat that Pres Putin has on Pres Trump.

How long before Pres trump's "debt" to pres Putin is larger than Pres Trump's oath to uphold the Constitution?

It is a downward spiral with little hope for a happy resolution.

#6 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-13 12:09 AM | Reply

LAMP @ #3

"What is so special about these particular conversations that Pres Trump feels that he has to destroy the evidence of them?"

It's a safe bet that it wasn't MAGA.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-13 03:18 AM | Reply


I think Trump is too much of a coward to order a national emergency. That would bring out lawsuits and a federal judge could order the government re-opened while the case(s) wind their way all the way up to the Supreme Court where here's a chance it would get deferred to a lower court.

I don't think Trump has that much time left.

Actually, that "national emergency" thing could be that bridge too far we've been waiting for.

#8 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-13 05:27 AM | Reply

This doesn't even cover the phone calls he made on his personal cell phone.

Can you imagine the advantage Putin has over the U.S. because of this Dolt's actions? Putin can say we promised anything, and no one in Trump's administration can say Trump didn't promise it. Putin can (oh, he has) go on TV, do his interviews, and say whatever he wants. He can also laugh at the U.S. - which is what he's doing: www.bbc.com

#9 | Posted by YAV at 2019-01-13 09:36 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


"He can also laugh at the U.S."

And Donald Trump in particular because he's such an easy mark. I can just picture the self-satisfied smiles all over the Kremlin.

#10 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-13 02:35 PM | Reply

that interpreter needs to appear in front of a democrat committee.

#11 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-01-13 02:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Totally what innocent, constituent-focused presidents do is go out of their way to keep secret the conversations they have with leaders from adversarial foreign countries.

Definitely not the actions of a guy concerned about leverage that an egomaniac trying to recapture Cold War-era stature and bent on restructuring the world order might have over him.

No way in H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks would this be the m.o. of a man who has spent his whole life grifting and finds himself compromised and desperate but still clinging to the mirage of having the upper hand because he's a tough negotiator who had great ratings on that TV show, way better than Schwarzenegger, believe me.

Totally definitely for sure.

#12 | Posted by cbob at 2019-01-13 02:55 PM | Reply

Actually, that "national emergency" thing could be that bridge too far we've been waiting for.

if he declares a nat'l emerg. then he helps himself politically but he loses any real hope of getting his hands on that 5 billion. if he could get funds dedicated to a wall construction project that would immediately create a slush fund for some connected contractors. if he goes the emergency route then it'll go to the courts and they can open the gov. back up and he'll blame it on the 9th circuit and claim that he's not really nancy's bitch

#13 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2019-01-13 03:07 PM | Reply

Isn't it illegal for Trump to confiscate meeting notes while conducting this country's business?

#14 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-01-13 08:52 PM | Reply

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