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Saturday, January 12, 2019

In the days after President Trump fired James B. Comey as F.B.I. director, law enforcement officials became so concerned by the president's behavior that they began investigating whether he had been working on behalf of Russia against American interests, according to former law enforcement officials and others familiar with the investigation.



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Wow. The highest levels of federal law enforcement calling on itself to investigate their own boss due to things he said and actions he undertook calling into question whether he might be compromised by the Russian government. Trump's firing Comey, then hosting the Russians in the Oval the very next day and telling them that he feels the pressure had been eased over the FBI investigation, obviously under the delusion that by exiting Comey the investigation would end.

To understand Trump is to understand that he only cares about that which directly affects him at some vital point in time. He never understood the investigation was primarily into what Russia was doing and that the FBI ended up with so many Trumpers within its crosshairs only because Trumpers kept showing up with the Russians the FBI were surveilling.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-11 09:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Does anyone else think that these bombshell revelations are coming out now because Mueller may want them to? Right now, people are rightly focusing on the subject as it stands alone. Later, thinking people will figure out: 1) Since Trump isn't in jail, unless they already indicted him under seal (or will) whatever they found out wasn't strong enough for DOJ to force the issue; and 2) whatever they did find out will likely be just as damning, likely portraying Trump as he is: a witting/unwitting malleable puppet.

#2 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-11 09:13 PM | Reply

Ben Wittes incredible, deep-dive article on Lawfare hits perfectly on what I alluded to above:

A lot of the criticism seems to be driven by the notion that the FBI's investigation was, and is, an effort to undermine or discredit President Trump. That assumption is wrong. The FBI's investigation must be viewed in the context of the bureau's decades-long effort to detect, disrupt and defeat the intelligence activities of the governments of the Soviet Union and later the Russian Federation that are contrary to the fundamental and long-term interests of the United States. The FBI's counterintelligence investigation regarding the 2016 campaign fundamentally was not about Donald Trump but was about Russia. Full stop. It was always about Russia. It was about what Russia was, and is, doing and planning. Of course, if that investigation revealed that anyone -- Russian or American -- committed crimes in connection with Russian intelligence activities or unlawfully interfered with the investigation, the FBI has an obligation under the law to investigate such crimes and to seek to bring those responsible to justice. The FBI's enduring counterintelligence mission is the reason the Russia investigation will, and should, continue -- no matter who is fired, pardoned or impeached (emphasis added).

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-11 09:25 PM | Reply

I think this explains why:

Rudy Giuliani recently told a friend that he expects the Mueller report to be "horrific," according to insiders who have begun speculating that Trump will make a deal with the special prosecutor to exchange his resignation for clemency.


Rudy Giuliani thinks Mueller report will be ‘horrific' -- and insiders say Trump may strike deal to resign: report

Buried in a new Vanity Fair story about President Donald Trump's lack of exit strategy for his showdown over the proposed border wall, which aides fear will be his "personal Alamo," is another intriguing nugget.


#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-11 09:29 PM | Reply

"He never understood the investigation was primarily into what Russia was doing and that the FBI ended up with so many Trumpers within its crosshairs only because Trumpers kept showing up with the Russians the FBI were surveilling."

Trump Campaign Had More Than 100 Contacts With Russia-Linked Operatives: Report


#5 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-11 09:40 PM | Reply

Trump will not be indicted
Trump will not be impeached
Trump will not resign
Trump will not strike a deal
Trump may be re-elected and if not may declare the elections invalid

#6 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-01-11 09:40 PM | Reply

Likely all of those are true.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-01-11 09:43 PM | Reply

Trump will be forced from office.
Trump will deny he's done wrong.
Trump will flee to another country.
Trump will try to disrupt America from abroad.
Trump will live just long enough to see his empire end horribly.

#8 | Posted by Tor at 2019-01-11 09:52 PM | Reply

At least one of those is true.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-01-11 09:55 PM | Reply

Trumptilians control the Senate and will do no such thing.
Trumptilians who control the Trumptilian party love what Trump is doing.
Trumptilians core belief is the "get" cuckeled, beta, SJW types.

Trumptilians will simply ignore all smoking guns demonstrating any and all Trump crimes.

Trump is a meglomaniac who will never willingly give up power.

#10 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-01-11 09:57 PM | Reply

Trump is reckless as he is feckless, and now both sides are closing in on him, obviously the left more forcibly than the right.

It's coming to a head. This nation cannot exist at this entropy for much longer. Trump babbles about "walls and wheels" while untold thousands watch their lives crash to a halt because Trump is throwing his own pity party. Another log on the pyre my friends.

It's getting hot in here.

#11 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-11 09:57 PM | Reply

No offense Truth, but I have to believe in my theory over yours or I'd stop getting up in the morning.

And yes, I'm not kidding.

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-11 09:59 PM | Reply

I've been thinking lately about how we haven't heard much about the Senate IC investigation into Russian interference in the election. I wonder if they are uncovering more than the House IC did under Nunes's leadership. I can only hope they are not as biased and dishonest as the House IC was.

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-11 10:07 PM | Reply

Tony, you live in the world of reality. That is where your mistaken belief comes from.

Unfortunately you are dealing with people who do not live in reality.

You see it here everyday, from Boaz's toxic masculinity to Andrea's shameless greed to JeffJ's whataboutisms, from proud ignorance to immoral hatred.

Trumptilians will not give up on Trump because he is what they want. A shameless racist, misogynist, narcissistic man-child. He is their wet dream for a politician. They have no ethics beyond greed. They are nihilists at heart including supposed men of faith who sold their souls for conservative judges.

THEY DON'T CARE that Russia impacted our election. (My own opinion is that Russian interference went far beyond what has been become public). And with Russian interference in that election the implications are incredible, beyond belief. Everything since Jan. 17 has been illegitimate-America can not handle that reality.
You give the American people far more credit than they deserve.

Everything you needed to know about Trump was on the table decades ago and enough Americans voted for him to make him President. What they dont realize and probably dont care is Trump has zero interest in American democracy. His sole focus is himself and knowing him, you know he will do all he can to retain power, including calling off elections, deeming them invalid and ignoring the results.

You were warned.

#14 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-01-11 10:09 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

and now both sides are closing in on him, obviously the left more forcibly than the right.

Tony, Im sorry but you are wrong. If the trumptilian party were moving on Trump, the Senate would pass a bill reopening the government forcing Trump to veto it. Until they do that the proof is that the trumptilian party is fully behind Trump

#15 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-01-11 10:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Everything you needed to know about Trump was on the table decades ago and enough Americans voted for him to make him President."

It's interesting to note that the GOP couldn't convince their own, nor did they make much attempt to.
I recall Ted Cruz made some issue about his ties to Russia, and so did Hillary, and who wants to hear what either of those two have to say?
All those electors, for example, who could have decided to exercise their franchise as they see fit under Federal, though not always State law.
Makes you wonder who's running the show over there.
Makes you wonder who's running the show at all.

We're pretty aware of the things the DNC did to give Hillary a boost, but I don't think the GOP themselves are aware how much Trump owes Russia. And look at how much they owe the NRA. And look at who owns the NRA.

#16 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-11 10:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

THE WH is squealing like a stuck pig about this....

"White House press secretary Sarah Sanders has denounced a New York Times report that the FBI launched an investigation into whether President Trump had been working on behalf of Russia when he fired James Comey as director of the bureau in May 2017. Sanders issued the statement on Friday night.

"This is absurd," Sanders said. "James Comey was fired because he's a disgraced partisan hack, and his Deputy Andrew McCabe, who was in charge at the time, is a known liar fired by the FBI. Unlike President Obama, who let Russia and other foreign adversaries push America around, President Trump has actually been tough on Russia."

The Times added,

"The investigation the F.B.I. opened into Mr. Trump also had a criminal aspect, which has long been publicly known: whether his firing of Mr. Comey constituted obstruction of justice."


#17 | Posted by Corky at 2019-01-12 12:47 AM | Reply

It's important to make a distinction between policy differences and a genuine threat to national security. Reasonable people could argue that, unfortunate consequences aside, the best option for Syria would be to leave it to Russian domination or that the annexation of Crimea wasn't something that should warrant harsh anti-Russian sanctions. If Trump ran on those unorthodox positions and won election, he would be entitled to expect the government to get behind him and support his program. But if Trump was actually compromised in some way and was pushing policies on behalf of Russia, that would be something entirely different. It's going to be vitally important to remember and to emphasize that the suspicions about Trump were not based only on the strangeness of his pro-Russia positions. They were buttressed by many other sources, including information coming from friendly foreign intelligence services and the aforementioned preexisting concerns about several of his associates.

Any candidate offering a more isolationist foreign policy and more friendly relations with Russia would encounter resistance from the American foreign policy establishment, but it took a great deal more than that to motivate the FBI to take the extraordinary steps they have taken to investigate first the Trump campaign and then the Trump administration. More than anything else, it was the Russians' deliberate interference in our presidential politics that motivated them. And that really gets to the heart of what the new reporting has revealed.

Had the Russians had no preference who won but limited themselves to sowing divisions and distrust of our democratic systems, the FBI would have gone about their investigation largely unimpeded and without controversy. But not only did the Trump campaign benefit from Russian interference, they also did all they could to deny that it had occurred at all. Trump would not accept the conclusions of the intelligence community and conflated any investigation of what the Russians did with an effort to discredit his victory. Unfortunately, until now, the media have largely accepted this false distinction in how they've reported on the investigation.

Yet, when Trump made himself an enemy of the investigation into Russia, he turned himself into a national security threat.

Martin Longman

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-12 08:14 AM | Reply

I am amazed daily by the fact that so many of us are so concerned about Russian interference in our elections but totatlly disregard Interstate Crosscheck and Kris Kobach which did disqualify more than enough voters in the swing states to change the election results. And it was totally done in the open. Yet it is totally ignored because Republicans don't want to acknowledge what Kobach openly said was the purpose of his operation. And the Republican liars who generally discount all of that are just doing what liars do.....lie.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-12 08:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


I don't necessarily view them as separate issues. Both have to do with the illicit, intentional subversion of US laws and norms by creating unrest and distrust of government at multiple levels. IC has the secondary benefit of being a tool for the GOP to counter its losing demographics problem.

And secondly, IC could have been the way the Russians were able to target specific voters for disenfranchisement. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if this is eventually uncovered.

#20 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-12 09:16 AM | Reply

Now this, Mueller is investigating Trump as a Russian asset.


No wonder Trump is declaring a national emergency. His life is on the line.

#21 | Posted by bored at 2019-01-12 04:19 PM | Reply

Comey should have been fired ten times over. If elements in the FBI started an investigation over his firing, it's proof of the existence of the deep state and its vindictiveness. Hoover would be proud his secret police are keeping his legacy alive.

#22 | Posted by visitor_ at 2019-01-13 12:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

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