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Tuesday, January 08, 2019

A Russian lawyer whose role at a 2016 meeting at Trump Tower has come under scrutiny from special counsel Robert S. Mueller III was charged Tuesday in a separate case with obstructing justice in a money-laundering investigation.

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From the cited article:

...While Vesenitskaya has long proclaimed she is innocent and not a representative of the Russian government, the indictment argues she has worked closely with senior Russian officials for years....

So, in addition to various and many Trump campaign officials lying about Russian connections and interactions, here we apparently have a Russian who lied about her ties to senior Russian officials.

If Mr Mueller's report explains one thing, I would like it to explain why is there so much lying by Trump's circle, and now others, when it comes to nearly anything regarding Russia during the campaign?

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-08 12:16 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

And then there's this; sounds like collusion to me. Kilimnik was also at the Trump Tower meeting:

Jon Swaine @jonswaine

NEW: Paul Manafort's attorneys failed to properly redact their filing. They reveal that Mueller alleges Manafort "lied about sharing polling data with Mr. Kilimnik related to the 2016 presidential campaign". Konstantin Kilimnik has alleged ties to Russian intelligence.

#2 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-08 02:16 PM | Reply


@#2

Curiouser and curiouser...

Paul Manafort shared 2016 polling data with Russian employee, according to court filing
www.washingtonpost.com

...Paul Manafort shared 2016 presidential campaign polling data with Konstantin Kilimnik, a former employee whom the FBI has said has ties to Russian intelligence, according to a court filing from his defense attorneys.

The apparently inadvertent revelation indicates a pathway by which the Russians could have had access to Trump campaign data.

The former Trump campaign chairman on Tuesday denied in a filing that he broke his plea deal by lying repeatedly to prosecutors working for special counsel Robert S. Mueller III about that and other issues.

In his rebuttal to the special counsel's claims of dishonesty, Manafort exposed details of the dispute, much of which centers on his relationship with Kilimnik. The Russian citizen, who began working for Manafort's consulting firm starting in 2005, has been charged with helping his former boss to obstruct Mueller's investigation of Russian interference into the 2016 election. He is believed to be in Moscow.

The special counsel alleged Manafort "lied about sharing polling data with Mr. Kilimnik related to the 2016 presidential campaign," according to the unredacted filing, and discussed Ukrainian politics with Kilimnik during that time.

"Manafort ‘conceded' that he discussed or may have discussed a Ukraine peace plan with Mr. Kilimnik on more than one occasion," his attorneys quote the special counsel as saying, and "'acknowledged' that he and Mr. Kilimnik met while they were both in Madrid."...


[emphasis mine]


Well, isn't that special...


#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-08 02:38 PM | Reply

Matthew Miller @matthewamiller

These failed redactions show Manafort had a meeting with Kilimnik in Madrid, gave him campaign polling data, and discussed a Ukrainian peace plan with him - then lied about all of it. Very normal contacts between a US presidential campaign manager & a Russian intelligence asset.

#4 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-08 05:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Collusion!

#5 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-08 06:57 PM | Reply

No collusion!

Maybe a tiny bit of conspiracy. Maybe a little lie here and there. A tiny bit of money laundering. And really just a tiny tiny little bit of bribery and corruption.

Really nothing actually.

Also, a little adultery, obstruction of justice and cheating and lying and stealing but that is not illegal is it?

Not for a President!!!

Presidents are Magic!!!

...

Anyway, definitely, NO COLLUSION!!

#6 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-08 07:03 PM | Reply

Sounds like a DIRECT CONNECTION to me.

#7 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2019-01-08 08:33 PM | Reply

I can't believe these Russian conspiracy theories are still being floated by the Left. I could understand AOC or some other dimwitted Dem trotting them out, but serious people have moved off from it already. I know you still expect Pikachu to be led out in handcuffs any day now for the Pokemon-Russian conspiracy, but you should take the advice of those family members that still talk with you - grow up, get a job, and turn of MSNBC. You are embarrassing yourself.

#8 | Posted by nobiasposter101 at 2019-01-08 09:41 PM | Reply | Funny: 3

#8

NONOTHINGPOSTER is selling "Nothingburgers".

#9 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2019-01-08 11:12 PM | Reply

"I know you still expect Pikachu to be led out in handcuffs any day now for the Pokemon-Russian conspiracy"
#8 | POSTED BY НЕТБИАСАФИША101

Hahahahaha!!! Holy ---- guys, trumps nickname at the kremlin is Pikachu. Comrade nobias, I wish I knew what my country's Secret Service calls trump-- you're lucky.

#10 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-01-08 11:28 PM | Reply

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#8 Bagdad Bob has a new job.

#11 | Posted by bored at 2019-01-08 11:30 PM | Reply

"I wish I knew what my country's Secret Service calls trump"

Orange Julius Caesar.

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-08 11:30 PM | Reply

I can't believe these Russian conspiracy theories are still being floated by the Left. I could understand AOC or some other dimwitted Dem trotting them out, but serious people have moved off from it already. I know you still expect Pikachu to be led out in handcuffs any day now for the Pokemon-Russian conspiracy, but you should take the advice of those family members that still talk with you - grow up, get a job, and turn of MSNBC. You are embarrassing yourself.

#8 | Posted by nobiasposter101

Yes. If we all stop consuming information about it, russiagate will disappear for us like it did for you!
Ignorance of something means it's not happening!

#13 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2019-01-09 08:20 PM | Reply

Anyway, definitely, NO COLLUSION!!

#6 | POSTED BY DONNERBOY

Yeah, what's the big deal? it's not like somebody got a BJ or anything...

#14 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2019-01-10 12:03 AM | Reply

I can't believe these Russian conspiracy theories are still being floated by the Left. I could understand AOC or some other dimwitted Dem trotting them out, but serious people have moved off from it already. I know you still expect Pikachu to be led out in handcuffs any day now for the Pokemon-Russian conspiracy, but you should take the advice of those family members that still talk with you - grow up, get a job, and turn of MSNBC. You are embarrassing yourself.

#8 | POSTED BY NOBIASPOSTER101 AT 2019-01-08 09:41 PM | FLAG:

Your "point" is as lame as your handle.

Claiming "the Left" is embarrassing itself in noting what is in the public record is classic projection. Trump himself would approve of your post. I suppose somebody has to be the last one to admit the jig is up. Might as well be you, eh, "no bias" dude?

"Serious people," lol.

#15 | Posted by cbob at 2019-01-10 01:41 PM | Reply

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