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Tuesday, January 08, 2019

U.S. Customs and Border Protection encountered only six immigrants on the U.S-Mexico border in the first half of fiscal year 2018 whose names were on a federal government list of known or suspected terrorists, according to CBP data obtained by NBC News. The low number contradicts statements by Trump administration officials, including White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders who said Friday that CBP stopped nearly 4,000 known or suspected terrorists from crossing the southern border in fiscal year 2018.

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#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-07 04:24 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Honestly surprised that the number is nonzero, which therefore lends credibility to the comment, hyperbole aside, that (six) known terrorists have been caught attempting to illegally immigrate thru the southern border.

Thanks for the link.

#2 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-01-08 12:05 AM | Reply

...(six) known terrorists have been caught attempting to illegally immigrate thru the southern border.

No, that isn't the case. 6 known PERSONS whose names matched one of those on our convoluted and often wrong terror watch list were stopped at our southern border. CBP did not give an accounting of the six at least not in today's NBC reporting.

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-08 12:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Only takes one!

Lets not forget all the killing that illegal immigrants have done to US citizens.

More likely to die at the hands of an illegal immigrant than a terrorist.

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-01-08 12:18 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

"More likely to die at the hands of an illegal immigrant than a terrorist."

Those aren't the same thing?

#5 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-08 12:19 AM | Reply

"More likely to die at the hands of an illegal immigrant than a terrorist."

That speaks more of the incredible rarity of each, not a preponderance of one or the other.

You're more likely to win a lottery than die at the hands of an illegal immigrant
www.businessinsider.com

#6 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-08 12:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

I'm twice as likely to die at the hands of a police office than an illegal immigrant.

Right, Andrea, a mattress?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-08 12:32 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

I am more likely to be killed by an American than an illegal.
So illegals that kill American are making me safer.
Death to Americans!

#8 | Posted by bored at 2019-01-08 01:12 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 4

#6

mAndy Mattress won the lottery when he was born. Now he wants you to pay for a wall to keep out one terrorist... because that's all it takes.

#9 | Posted by Corky at 2019-01-08 01:25 AM | Reply

mAndy Mattress won the lottery when he was born.
#9 | POSTED BY CORKY

I didn't win the lottery, I just have a trust fund, can't live off it, but it does allow me to take some pretty incredible trips around the world.

Now he wants you to pay for a wall to keep out one terrorist... because that's all it takes.
#9 | POSTED BY CORKY

No Corky, not terrorist .. can't you read ...

I am more likely to be killed by an American than an illegal. ~ Snoofy

Actually this is incorrect....

According to the FBI, 67,642 murders were committed in the U.S. from 2005 through 2008, and 115,717 from 2003 through 2009. The General Accounting Office documents that criminal immigrants committed 25,064 of these murders.

Have Danforth do the math if you can't figure it out ....

Thanks for trying Snoofy ...

#10 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2019-01-08 01:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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"I didn't win the lottery, I just have a trust fund, can't live off it, but it does allow me to take some pretty incredible trips around the world."

So IOW you could live off it, you'd just have to cancel the trips around the world.

#11 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-08 01:55 AM | Reply

"criminal immigrants committed 25,064 of these murders."

How many were illegals?

"The General Accounting Office"

These aren't FBI numbers?

But it's helpful when you quote huge blocks of text, it makes them easier to debunk.
Gaetz misleads in claim about immigrants, crime
www.politifact.com

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-08 01:58 AM | Reply

"Have Danforth do the math if you can't figure it out ...."

Snoofy's claim is correct.

The two examples you gave both cover one same section of time; 2005-2008. Since the 2003-2009 number is inclusive, we'll use that.

25,064 is not more than half of 115, 717. Therefore, immigrants committed less that half the murders, therefore Snoofy's claim he's more likely to be killed by an American is correct.

Of course, that's using Actual Math™. Feel free to show us how your claim works using Republican Math™.

#13 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-08 02:01 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

About one-third of murders go unsolved in this country.

Why doesn't that seem like a bigger problem to you, Andrea, a mattress, than the maybe few percent of murders committed by illegal immigrants?

I mean, if you actually cared about murder.

Which you don't.

You should shut up more, you're stupid. All that trust fund money you squandered your brain. Your existence makes me sad.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-08 02:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Using an initial cost estimate of $73 billion for the wall, which any typical government contractor will double or triple, the wall yields a cost benefit of $12 billion for each alleged terrorists, all of whom were stopped at a road anyway.

#15 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-01-08 08:13 AM | Reply

"No, that isn't the case. 6 known PERSONS whose names matched one of those on our convoluted and often wrong terror watch list were stopped at our southern border."

So our anti-terroism system is Interstate Crosscheck. Brilliant!

#16 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-08 08:22 AM | Reply

You people with your FACTS and TRUTH. Just stop it!

And don't you dare bring up the fact that 41 matches against the watch list were intercepted trying to cross the Northern Border (where there, apparently, isn't an 'emergency')!

That's 7 times worse than the Southern border!

#17 | Posted by YAV at 2019-01-08 08:22 AM | Reply

#16 - it is, indeed. My nephew's name matched an Irish terrorist's name and he couldn't travel by plane for a couple of years. No, he wasn't named after him. Sheesh.

#18 | Posted by YAV at 2019-01-08 08:24 AM | Reply

Should anyone even question the wall after the only major terrorist attack on the United States came from the air, as in airliners crashing into the WTC?
I'm sorry, but the supporters of the wall are just plain stupid. The wall will accomplish nothing. Hello????? Do you wall supporters thing that the Gulf of Mexico is going to go away? How many Cubans landed here by water? HOw many Haitians? Y'all are just dumb. If they want to get here they will get here. Arrest the employers, jail them and no one will be tempted to come here. But, the employers contribute to the Republican Party, so we can't jail them. That's the truth y'all don't want to recognize.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-08 08:26 AM | Reply

"it is, indeed. My nephew's name matched an Irish terrorist's name and he couldn't travel by plane for a couple of years. No, he wasn't named after him. Sheesh."

And millions of Americans were deprived of their right to vote for the same specious reasons. But, it advantaged the Repubican party so lots of posters here think that's just fine. CAn we consider them patriotic Americans? No.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-08 08:30 AM | Reply

And don't you dare bring up the fact that 41 matches against the watch list were intercepted trying to cross the Northern Border (where there, apparently, isn't an 'emergency')!

Have no fear, the Canadians are already springing into action!

Canadian GoFundMe Raises $6B In Two Hours To Pay For Privacy Hedge Along Entire US Border

In a stunning rebuke of the 46th best president in American history, the United States' northern neighbour shattered numerous crowdsourcing records today, when it raised billions and billions and billions of dollars to plant and maintain a living barrier between themselves and the adjacent idiocracy. The campaign started with the modest goal of raising $250,000, which was estimated to be enough to pay for an ad on Fox & Friends asking Americans to help Canada secure its border against the dreaded MAGA-16 gang.

"But when we achieved that ambition in less than one hot minute (Celsius), we realized we needed to expand our operations from trolling the dredges to bankrolling the hedges," Candy says, as he directs another tractor trailer into a vast warehouse he has stocked with young yew saplings, waiting to take their positions along the formerly longest undefended border in the universe.

"And in under two hours we collected $6 billion Canadian. Which is extraordinary, really, given the time of year, and current cost of hockey tickets."

😂

#21 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-08 08:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 5

News of the cross-country shrubbery came as a surprise to many Americans, who were pretty sure they'd heard that the Canadians had already planted one of those two years ago, in the days following the U.S. decision to elect a discarded traffic pylon – found in a ditch on the road to nowhere – as their leader.

Thanks Tony!

#22 | Posted by YAV at 2019-01-08 08:41 AM | Reply

#22

Don't forget to keep your eyes open for those dreaded MAGA 16 gang members. I hear they're almost everywhere and completely impervious to history, logic, facts, and reason... but I have heard that Round Up in their chewing tobacco gives them the squirts and temporarily slows their movements to a crawl....

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2019-01-08 08:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 3

How do you stop them when the fence is a 3 strand wire fence? That is what much if the AZ fence is.

#24 | Posted by Sniper at 2019-01-08 11:26 AM | Reply

www.politifact.com

Andrea's thing about immigrants killing everyone is not true.

#25 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-01-08 01:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#24 | POSTED BY SNIPER

If it is so easy to get across, why are they not doing it?

It is almost like your whole political ideology is based upon a belief in something that is total BS. If you want supporting evidence (of your ideology being based on BS), do a little research on the prevalence of in-person voter fraud (take special note of what a high proportion of the actual confirmed cases were committed by Republicans).

If you want a wall... go build one. There is a gofundme campaign to fund the border wall. How much have you donated?

#26 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2019-01-08 01:25 PM | Reply

Only takes one!

#4 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Uh-huh. It only takes the threat of ONE terrorist to make you piss yourself and vote to crap out billions (trillions if you count the "war on terror") in taxpayers money to protect you from your imagination.

And they call progressives "snowflakes"....

#27 | Posted by Whatsleft at 2019-01-08 01:43 PM | Reply

Somebody, I can't recall who, made a great point yesterday. If there were 4,000 "known or suspected terrorists" stopped, why have there been no arrests and charges? Hundreds to thousands of terrorists but the FBI/DHS haven't mentioned a single one?

And if it were actually true it would mean the Trump administration has the worst border security in American history.

#28 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-01-08 02:21 PM | Reply

"administration officials have been vague - perhaps intentionally - on the numbers supporting their claims. They say 4,000 "terrorists" have been caught entering the US, but it turns out most stops happen at airports. There have been only a handful apprehended at the Mexican border (fewer than at the border with Canada)."

-- bbc

#29 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2019-01-08 04:34 PM | Reply

Obviously this is a lie.

There have been thousands, millions!

What's that you say?

They were all caught entering or leaving airports?

SEE? They have already breeched the Open Border (which the Democrats left Open) !!!

And while we were fooling around the attacked us from our airports!

See what Trump is saying yet?

Now we even need walls around all our airports now!!!

That's what we get for listening to Liberals!

Also... thanks a lot Obama!!

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-08 07:48 PM | Reply

that (six) known terrorists have been caught attempting to illegally immigrate thru the southern border.
Thanks for the link.

#2 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

Excluding your misunderstanding about them being known terrorists versus their names just matching a list, not a single person on a watch list has been found to have crossed the southern border illegally. The White House argument that a wall would have stopped any is a complete pant load

#31 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-01-08 09:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

So exactly how did all those millions of undocumented people get here? Is it possible one or a thousand or so of them might be terrorist? If there was no effort to stop them how many tens of millions more of them might there be? And you want single payer healthcare for all of them?

#32 | Posted by jdmeth at 2019-01-10 01:13 AM | Reply

"And you want single payer healthcare for all of them?"

I want better, cheaper health care for everyone.
Beyond that, terrorists tend to be bankrolled, so they can get health care anyway.

#33 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-10 01:29 AM | Reply

"Is it possible one or a thousand or so of them might be terrorist?"

Sure, but a much greater chance that YOU will be one.

#34 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-10 02:48 AM | Reply

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