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Sunday, January 06, 2019

No. 8 -- We have a democracy. No. 7 -- We have an accountable and legitimate voting system. No. 6 -- We have an independent media that holds leaders accountable. No. 5 -- We have an independent judiciary. No. 4 -- The police are here to protect you. They're your friends. No. 3 -- Buying will make you happy. No. 2 -- If you work hard, you will succeed. No. 1 -- You are free.

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America, warts and all, is still better than any other place I know of. By a long shot.

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-06 10:37 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#1, Where else have you been? Just curious.

#2 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-01-06 10:58 PM | Reply


@#2

"places that I know of" is not necessarily "where I've been."

#3 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-06 11:17 PM | Reply

Sounds like you haven't been anywhere.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-06 11:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

@#4

Yeah, you're right.

I've never left the 10 mile radius of my house.

I've been exposed.

Regardless, I still think America is the best.

So, do you want to discuss my personal travels, or do you want to discuss America's greatness?

Your choice.

#5 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-06 11:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sounds like you haven't been anywhere.
#4 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Snoofy is the type of person that hates America and points to other countries as superior. He doesn't get the irony of idolizing only those countries that have a much higher % of white people than the US. Maybe he can surprise me though. Snoofy, which country with a lower % of white population than the US do you find superior to the US?

#6 | Posted by nobiasposter101 at 2019-01-07 12:45 AM | Reply

Japan is a pretty good country

#7 | Posted by truthhurts at 2019-01-07 12:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So, do you want to discuss my personal travels, or do you want to discuss America's greatness?"

Let's discuss how great this is: "Sixty-three percent of Americans can't afford a $500 emergency."

#8 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-07 01:25 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Or this: "No, we have what a large Harvard study called the worst election system in the Western world."

Or this: "We lock up more people than any other country on earth."

#9 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-07 01:27 AM | Reply

Japan is a pretty good country
#7 | POSTED BY TRUTHHURTS

In what way exactly? And, does that greatness expand to everyone or will you find massive discrimination against foreigners (white, Chinese, black, Korean, etc)? From my experience, the Japanese culture is very cold, especially to foreigners with massive discrimination against blacks (outside of a weird sex fetish). As a result, it is very isolating which is linked to their extremely low birth rates as well as high suicide rates (higher than US per capita). Not that there aren't great things about Japan. Homogeneous societies with strong family values and a good work ethic tend to be much wealthier than average, which makes them desirable. I just don't place Japan ahead of the US in that regard. Most people from the US that move to Asia tend to pick developing countries as anything resembling a Western income make you pretty well off so you can enjoy a lifestyle much better than in your home country.

#10 | Posted by nobiasposter101 at 2019-01-07 04:16 AM | Reply

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RE: #10 | POSTED BY NOBIASPOSTER101 AT 2019-01-07 04:16 AM

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#11 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-01-07 04:36 AM | Reply

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#11 | POSTED BY TRUEBLUE

Interesting list, here is my take:

be 41.94% less likely to be unemployed - both countries at down to structural unemployment, so there really is no difference.

live 4.9 years longer - only if you make an assumption that it is the Japanese lifestyle and no genetics that leads to longer life (unknown but likely a combination)

be 92.98% less likely to be in prison - I don't commit crimes so it is irrelevant.

make 29.73% less money - that would suck

spend 46.58% less money on health care - I don't spend much out of pocket. I am young and healthy.

be 92.11% less likely to be murdered - I don't go places where murders are likely to occur so this is irrelevant

use 44.5% less electricity - I don't see this is as a positive. It is a result of limiting lifestyle choices

consume 40.61% less oil - because they tend to not own cars. Only 78% of Japanese households own a car vs. 95%+ in the US. I enjoy the freedom a cr provides me vs. being crammed into a giant fart tube for my morning commute.

be 65.48% less likely to die in infancy - I made it though infancy so this is irrelevant

have 3.05% more free time - this is a flawed statistic

experience 16.44% less of a class divide - flawed statistic

be 83.33% less likely to have HIV/AIDS - I don't use IV drugs or have sex with gay dudes so my chance of getting HIV/AIDS is basically 0%

have 39.87% fewer babies - depends if you like having a family

#12 | Posted by nobiasposter101 at 2019-01-07 04:51 AM | Reply

The claim was Japan is a "pretty good country" to answer your question of "...which country with a lower % of white population than the US do you find superior to the US?"

Whether it's better for you, personally, is actually irrelevant.

That said, it seems some of your dismissal of differences, that don't matter to you, are "flawed".

For example:
1. there are other ways to be infected with HIV/AIDS other than IV drugs or sex with gay dudes.

2. 'fewer babies' is is a metric describing their country. It's NOT a requirement (so have as large of a family as you wish).

3. 'less likely to be in prison'. So, you believe that ALL the people in prison are there because they commit crimes? Seriously???

4. Less health cost/lower infancy death rate. Glad you're healthy and you made it through infancy OK. So, "you got yours" and your health will not ever change. LOL!!! Do you realize other peoples' health affects society as a whole (even you!)?

5. 'consume less oil': The Japanese tendency to not own cars is, again, a metric. It is NOT a requirement. You want a car? Fine. Apparently, 78% of their households do (not a vastly different percentage than the US, BTW). I think you'll find there is less car use since the structure of their society (culture, infrastructure, etc.) is such that a car is less of a necessity in their society.

6. 'make less money'. Well, that might "suck" or not depending upon other factors: cost of living, leisure time, benefits, etc.

All of this is fine/dandy, but it doesn't address another factor: crime rate. Of course, I'm sure, there are better/worse areas in either country, but overall it looks like Japan would qualify as a "pretty good country" (which is what the topic is!).

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#13 | Posted by TrueBlue at 2019-01-07 05:40 AM | Reply

America...is...better than any other place...By a long shot.
#1 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Myth number 9.

#14 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-01-07 05:47 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

but overall it looks like Japan would qualify as a "pretty good country" (which is what the topic is!).
www.nationmaster.com
#13 | POSTED BY TRUEBLUE

Japan is a nice country, I have been there many times. The most recent on a cruise to Okinawa (yes, Japan but not really). But, it is contrasting to see if it is superior to the US. I stand by my claim that it is not, though a nice country to visit. This is based on my experience as a well off white guy. If you are a minority (like those I listed above), you will pretty much hate Japan. If you think the US is racist, you haven't seen anything yet. The Japanese look at the Korean, Filipino, Chinese, and other SE Asian nationalities as vastly inferior. If you are black, you are viewed as a circus animal (outside of the sexual fetish upside). So, if you value social justice, you need to cross Japan off your list.

#15 | Posted by nobiasposter101 at 2019-01-07 06:48 AM | Reply

If you are black, you are viewed as a circus animal...
#15 | POSTED BY NOBIASPOSTER101

Yet I wonder which country actually puts more black men in cages.

#16 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-01-07 06:57 AM | Reply

Yet I wonder which country actually puts more black men in cages.
#16 | POSTED BY TFDNIHILIST

After they commit crimes, not because of pure racism.

#17 | Posted by nobiasposter101 at 2019-01-07 08:16 AM | Reply

The greatest generator of greenhouse gasses is the US military. The greatest generator of human misery across the planet is the US military. Military spending erodes the US economy because of its destructive character which has less of a multiplier effect on consumer spending than any other kind of spending.

#18 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-01-07 09:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

After they commit crimes, not because of pure racism.
#17 | Posted by nobiasposter101 at 2019-01-07 08:16 AM | Reply | Flag:
funniest thing I've ever read on the Retort!

#19 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2019-01-07 12:08 PM | Reply

"If you are black, you are viewed as a circus animal.."

That's better than being viewed as a dangerous criminal.

It's funny that you think it's worse to be a freak than a thug.

Only one of those gets Philando Castile murdered by law enforcement for complying with law enforcement.

What do you think, Lamplighter?

#20 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-07 12:25 PM | Reply

I've never left the 10 mile radius of my house.
#5 | POSTED BY LAMPLIGHTER

Conservative safe spacing in a nutshell.

#21 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-01-07 06:52 PM | Reply

#20 Why do you hate Hillary with such a vengeance?

#22 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-01-07 07:58 PM | Reply

It's always amusing to me how many lefties think this country is an absolute --------. They harp the warts to death and NEVER acknowledge ANY of the long list of positives.

It's called: Cherry-picking.

#23 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-08 11:38 AM | Reply

#23 Snoofy is a prime example of this, BTW.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-08 11:39 AM | Reply

I'm seeing a lot of white language supremacy here. Here's how to recognize it if can't see it: www.theblaze.com

#25 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2019-01-08 11:52 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

It's always amusing to me how many lefties think this country is an absolute --------.

Your side elected a president in 2016 who spent the entire campaign -------- on the country and calling it terrible and weak.

#26 | Posted by rcade at 2019-01-08 01:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I don't see anybody on "my side" on this thread -------- on the country and calling it terrible and weak. It would be people from "your side" who are doing that, Lamplighter notwithstanding.

#27 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-08 01:14 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Things JeffJ doesn't think are terrible:

"Sixty-three percent of Americans can't afford a $500 emergency."

"We have what a large Harvard study called the worst election system in the Western world."

"We lock up more people than any other country on earth."

Please do explain why those three things aren't terrible.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-08 02:44 PM | Reply

I don't see anybody on "my side" on this thread -------- on the country and calling it terrible and weak.

Your side lost the right to make this complaint when you put the anti-American pro-Russian in office.

#29 | Posted by rcade at 2019-01-08 02:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

U don't see anybody on "my side" on this thread -------- on the country and calling it terrible and weak."

"On this thread"

Nice cherry-pick, douche.

Keep those blinders up at all times!

#30 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-08 03:08 PM | Reply

Lmao.... You all are talking about my side your side... Guess your trying to prove the article is correct right?

Vote 3rd party!

#31 | Posted by PinkyanTheBrain at 2019-01-08 05:00 PM | Reply

No. 8 -- We have a democracy.

Boaz is the first person to remind us we have a representative republic.

No. 7 -- We have an accountable and legitimate voting system.

Based on the amount of voter suppression we see every election cycle, we know this is false.

No. 6 -- We have an independent media that holds leaders accountable.

Jeff, and the rest of the usual suspects, will be the first to tell you how biased our media is.

No. 5 -- We have an independent judiciary.

We should, but judges are nominated based on political affiliation.

No. 4 -- The police are here to protect you. They're your friends.

This is subjective.

No. 3 -- Buying will make you happy.

Materialism wont make you happy. If it did most our nation wouldn't be on anti-depressants.

No. 2 -- If you work hard, you will succeed.

Working hard is what laborers in sweatshops do. How many sweatshop workers do we see rising out of the hole they're stuck in?

No. 1 -- You are free.

Freedom is an illusion. But, I believe we have a lot of freedoms in this country, even if we aren't "free".

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-08 05:34 PM | Reply


Looks like I forgot to close an italics...

#33 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-08 05:47 PM | Reply

"No. 4 -- The police are here to protect you. They're your friends.
This is subjective."

The police have no duty to protect.
That's the objective truth.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-08 05:47 PM | Reply

The police have no duty to protect.
That's the objective truth.
#34 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

"The police are here to protect you", is an opinion some people have.

If you happen to be rich, this is actually the truth.

If you happen to be poor, you know this to be false.

But yes, their duty is to uphold the law. However they see fit.

#35 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-08 05:49 PM | Reply

The myth is that upholding our laws protects people.

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2019-01-08 05:55 PM | Reply

This thread stinks of cheap vodka.

#37 | Posted by Tor at 2019-01-08 05:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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