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Wednesday, January 02, 2019

Mediaite takes a part Trump's most recent claim that his border wall is mostly built and Mexico is paying for it. Then they ask a good quetion: "if 'much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built,' was it worth it for Trump to shut down the government because Democrats refuse to give him the $5 billion he's demanding for the wall and other security measures?"

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Paraphrased from the article:

Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall, but then stated that it wouldn't. Now, with the updated NAFTA deal, Trump claims the economy will be so stimulated by Mexico that the Wall's costs will be offset through increased tax revenue.

Only problem is, even if that does come to fruition, the American taxpayers would actually be the ones ultimately footing the bill, not Mexico.

Then, couple that with the idea that the Wall is already mostly built. If "much of the Wall has already been fully renovated or built," as Trump most recently declared, then how could it be advantageous for Trump to shut down the government over Democrats refusal to give him $5 billion for the Wall and "other security." Especially considering Democrats offered him $25 billion for the Wall in exchange for Dem supported DACA reform earlier this year.

#1 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-01-02 02:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

If any of this were true, he could frame his argument to the Dems and the people of the U.S. as "the Wall is pretty much already done; we just need the final $5 billion to finish it up."

But he didn't. His avoidance to place the Wall's status in that context speaks volumes, IMO.

Talk about painting yourself into a corner.

#2 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-01-02 02:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Everything he says is a lie.

#3 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2019-01-02 06:45 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#3 Except the time he said "Can you imagine if I [drank]? What a mess I would be. I would be the world's worst."

#4 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2019-01-02 06:46 PM | Reply

Just stop for a second & consider how dumb Trump thinks his supporters are ...

One thing I give Trump credit for, he KNOWS how dumb his supporters are.

Just reading them post here daily is proof enough.

#5 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-02 06:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Mexico was supposed to pay for the wall, but then stated that it wouldn't.

Trump claimed Mexico would pay for the wall. Mexico laughed themselves silly.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-02 06:52 PM | Reply

And everything Trump touches, dies.

Let's have a moment of silence for the grand and glorious "Wall" that never was and never will be.

RIP, Wall.

#7 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-02 06:59 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Now, with the updated NAFTA deal, Trump claims the economy will be so stimulated by Mexico that the Wall's costs will be offset through increased tax revenue."

Meaning Americans will be paying for the wall, not only upfront, but by increased taxes as well.

#8 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-02 07:16 PM | Reply

by increased taxes on the middle class as well.

#9 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-02 07:24 PM | Reply

The dems should propose a bill celebrating the completion of the big beautiful Trump Wall, that was built ahead of schedule and below cost.
Trump and his base will be happy to hear that they got their wall after all, and that Mexico paid for it.
Everyone else will just nod and smile.

#10 | Posted by bored at 2019-01-02 07:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

BORED

I was thinking of a blow-up wall. But sooner or later someone would come along and stick a pin in it.

#11 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-02 07:44 PM | Reply

We'll know when the first foot of the "Wall" is actually built because FOX News will be running a continuous loop of donald, flight risk, and jarvanka standing in front of it holding silver shovels and grinning like a quartet of plastic morons.

#12 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-01-02 08:04 PM | Reply

Here's a pretty good article discussing what has been built, what hasn't and why:

www.businessinsider.com

From the article :

"Of the 1,933 miles along the border, 1,279 miles is unfenced."

BTW - unfenced means without any physical barrier. I don't think this supports the assertion that " most of the wall is built or renovated" but I'm sure a Trumper will be along to point out the error of my interpretation.

#13 | Posted by Foreigner at 2019-01-02 08:45 PM | Reply

#11 The wall only needs to be as real as the jade helm invasion or pizza shop sex ring. Ie, not real at all.

#14 | Posted by bored at 2019-01-02 08:45 PM | Reply

Another angle for the dems to take. If the wall/fence is mostly built, then it was mostly built before Trump.
That means the current wall/fence is the Obama Wall.
The dems should pass a law naming the US southern border wall/fence the Obama Wall.

Now is Trump going to tear down the Obama Wall or not.

#15 | Posted by bored at 2019-01-02 08:50 PM | Reply

No, no, no, Obama's fence never went up because of land owners' lawsuits over eminent domain.

Trump's Wall would have a very, very different outcome. /s

#16 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2019-01-02 10:50 PM | Reply

BORED

"The dems should pass a law naming the US southern border wall/fence the Obama Wall."

No, they can't do that. Trump has already had 1,933 grinning neon signs made in his likeness, one for every mile, and the manufacturer has a no refund policy.

#17 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-02 11:32 PM | Reply

If the wall is done there's no need to shut down the government. Orange Agent can declare victory and go home.

#18 | Posted by SomebodyElse at 2019-01-03 10:19 AM | Reply

If the wall is done there's no need to shut down the government. Orange Agent can declare victory and go home.

#18 | Posted by SomebodyElse

Wait!!

How did you figure that out? That is brilliant!

YOU must be another Stable Genius!

Wow. Even our president Comancho, who is a Natural Scientist and The Stable Genius, did not notice that!

You real busy? You should be the acting chief of staff for a while.

Or maybe President. Cause now YOU are the smartest man in the world. You can fix this!

Do you drink Brawndo? I bet it's the Brawndo. It's got electrolytes!

Now don't bother me anymore about this..

I am bating.


#19 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-03 07:49 PM | Reply

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