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Monday, December 31, 2018

China has said it is "ready to work" with the US, suggesting progress in trade talks between the two countries and will work to "implement the important consensus" reached at December's G20. Sunday's statement from Lu Kang, the spokesperson for the country's foreign ministry, appeared to confirm President Trump's optimism after the G20 meetings.

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Wait, what? We were told to believe that this was BS and that China would never back down...

-The DR Left

#1 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 03:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Wait, what? We were told to believe that this was BS and that China would never back down...
-Said no one ever.

#1 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Must you always start your threads will bullshht?

Was it something you learned from J_TosseRigel?

How pathetic you are.

#2 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-31 03:42 PM | Reply

Incoming post from RoC about not seeing my post but checking it regardless...

In 3...

2...

1...

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-31 03:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

--Incoming post from RoC about not seeing my post but checking it regardless...

All he has to see is that the thread count is greater than the number of visible posts to know one of his anklebaiters has posted. Which plonkee he doesn't know, until now, ClownHack.

#4 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-12-31 03:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Which plonkee he doesn't know, until now, ClownHack.

#4 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-12-31 03:51 PM | FLAG:

Good thing he's got you so well trained, eh Dulli? Like a pointer dog.

#5 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-12-31 03:54 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The DR left can't stand the idea that China would make a deal with a President that doesn't have a D after his name, even, or especially, if it helps the American working class.

#6 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-12-31 03:57 PM | Reply

Which plonkee he doesn't know, until now, ClownHack.

Nor do I care, since Clown never has anything important or germane to say anyway.

Bite away, little man.

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 03:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

--since Clown never has anything important or germane to say anyway.

Nor has 'Che' Straun.

#8 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-12-31 04:02 PM | Reply

#6 is the type of drivel I used to expect from AFKBL2. Now we have Nulli to thank for the baseless inanity. Hey Nulli, go find some public library you can hang out in and regale young girls with stories of your glorious career as a middle school music teacher.

#9 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-12-31 04:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Disclaimer: Similar to AFKBL2, I do not dislike Nulli. I just think he is incredibly stupid.

#10 | Posted by moder8 at 2018-12-31 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

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#6

To be fair, Danni has been very vocal in her support of tariffs and has never waivered, even after the USMCA was announced.

The LA Times had a good article in the last couple of days that discussed how China's economy slowed to a level not seen since 2009 and is ready to make concessions on trade, which is consistent with the linked BBC article:

LA Times: China offers concessions on trade as its economy shows signs of decline

#11 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 04:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Just admit that your party is in favor of jobs...for illegal immigrants and Chinese workers.

#12 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-12-31 04:08 PM | Reply

Nor has 'Che' Straun.

#8 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-12-31 04:02 PM | FLAG:

That's it! Point away! That's a good dog!

#13 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-12-31 04:09 PM | Reply

#9

Unlike Babbles, Nulli isn't wrong, you just hate that he points out the inconsistencies in the latest narrative.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 04:09 PM | Reply

--To be fair, Danni has been very vocal in her support of tariffs

I agree; I've given her NW flags.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-12-31 04:11 PM | Reply

I agree; I've given her NW flags.

#15 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-12-31 04:11 PM | FLAG:

I'm sure she wears your approval with appropriate shame, fake Buddhist.

#16 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-12-31 04:13 PM | Reply

You have anything to say on topic, Che?

#17 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-12-31 04:17 PM | Reply

RoC must be the coolest kid in school. Since he's got Nulli on his didikk.

Good job on being RoC's secretary Nulli.

You're a good ----.

#18 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-31 04:20 PM | Reply

Unlike Babbles, Nulli isn't wrong,
#14 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Hahahahaha!

"Nulli isn't wrong".

Thanks for playing RoC.

#19 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-31 04:22 PM | Reply

You have anything to say on topic, Che?

#17 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-12-31 04:17 PM | FLAG:

Do you know who Che even was or is this like that thing with the flags?

#20 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-12-31 04:27 PM | Reply

"To be fair, Danni has been very vocal in her support of tariffs and has never waivered, even after the USMCA was announced."

Quite honestly, on the night Trump announced his support of tariffs I posted that he had just won the election. Laid off factory workers all over the country were waiting for someone to announce tariffs but they are too easily cancelled when he leaves office, they needed to be legislated by Congress and more carefully devised.

#21 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-31 04:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The DR left can't stand the idea that China would make a deal with a President that doesn't have a D after his name, even, or especially, if it helps the American working class.
#6 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Citation necessary.

All you got are empty accusations.

#22 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-31 04:29 PM | Reply

Still nothing on topic from ClownHack and Che. Pitiful.

#23 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-12-31 04:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Still nothing on topic from ClownHack and Che. Pitiful.

#23 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-12-31 04:30 PM | FLAG:

Like your post 4, you mean? Pathetic hypocrite.

#24 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-12-31 04:36 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Still nothing on topic from ClownHack and Che. Pitiful.

But completely expected from those two ankle biters.

#25 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 04:38 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#25

The fake plonker just can't stop addressing his plonkees. It's almost like he isn't being entirely authentic....

#26 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-12-31 04:42 PM | Reply

Even the SCMP is agreeing with the LA Times assessment that China will start making concessions to the US:

China's economy slowed further in December, with data released on Monday showing manufacturing sector activity contracted for the first time in two and a half years, putting more pressure on China to make concessions to ease the trade war with the United States.

The purchasing managers' index (PMI) fell to 49.4 from 50.0 in November, with December falling below the watershed point between expansion and contraction in the sector for the first time since dropping to 49.9 in July 2016.

The decline was largely unexpected, with the median forecast in a Bloomberg survey predicting an unchanged reading.

The drop in manufacturing activity was led by a contraction in export orders for the seventh straight month to the lowest level since November 2015.

Iris Pang, Greater China economist from ING Wholesale banking, noted that it is not too surprising that new export orders contracted to 46.6 in December under the lingering trade war, since it had remained below 50 since June.

But with new orders, that includes both domestic and export, dropping below 50 to 49.7 for the first time this year, this shows that the economy is not running well, she said.

"December is not a typical silent month for China [in term of economic activity]. So it's quite unusual to have domestic orders also slowing down," Pang said.

"If you combine it with last week's industrial profit data [which fell for the first time since 2016], it proves that the domestic economy is in a bad shape."

Analysts expect growth to slow significantly in the first half of 2019 when the full impact of tariffs previously imposed by the United States hit the Chinese economy.

The signs of rapidly slowing growth also puts further pressure on the Chinese government to make significant concessions to end, or at least de-escalate, the trade war with the US.

China's economy slows further as manufacturing contracts for first time in two and a half years

#27 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 04:57 PM | Reply

Quite telling that CNBC and the WSJ are also reporting this, but not a peep (yet) from WashPo or the NYT.

#28 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 05:05 PM | Reply

Laid off factory workers all over the country were waiting for someone to announce tariffs but they are too easily cancelled when he leaves office, they needed to be legislated by Congress and more carefully devised.

#21 | POSTED BY DANNI AT 2018-12-31 04:27 PM

That is one way to do it, but Capitol Hill lacks the testicular fortitude to do anything about it. The best that could happen is a new trade deal with China, which looks like may happen in the next 90 days or so. Who knows what the terms will look like, but almost anything is better than what we have now.

#29 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 05:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Unlike Babbles, Nulli isn't wrong..." - #14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 04:09 PM

Aside from the fact that this is outrageously funny ("Nulli isn't wrong"), it is the one and only time anyone from the right side of the aisle has ever called into question anything AFKABL2 posted here on the Retort. And it is posted only after Babbles has been gone from the Retort for over a year.

It is in the exact same way that no one from the right side of the aisle has ever called into question anything posted by sniper or fishpaw.

So save us your faux superiority.

"...you just hate that he points out the inconsistencies in the latest narrative."

Very telling that pointing out the inconsistencies in "the latest narrative is never about pointing out the inconsistencies in the latest narrative from the right.

It is in the exact same way that the worlds' smartest oil rig worker™ was "unbiased."

So save us your faux condescension.

#30 | Posted by Hans at 2018-12-31 05:40 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Hans, we all get that Nulli really gets under your collective skin since he no longer participates in the DR Left's daily self-affirming----------- where you all congratulate yourselves on agreeing with each other.

If you want to comment substantively to the thread topic, I welcome it.

Otherwise, Happy New Year.

#31 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 05:54 PM | Reply

Well. RoC succeeded with his troll thread.

As started with his #1 post. Which showed he had no interest in having serious conversation about anything and just wanted to rub this issue in "the DR left's" face.

RoC. You're A troll. You add nothing to conversation.

Pathetic.

#32 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-31 06:00 PM | Reply

"...since he no longer participates in the DR Left's daily self-affirming-----------..." - #31 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 05:54 PM

So, he switched from his left hand to his right hand for the Right's daily self-affirming-----------.

Of course, the champ you are, you're always available to lend him an additional hand.

And Happy New Year to you as well, my carpal-tunneled friend.

#33 | Posted by Hans at 2018-12-31 06:01 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The fake plonker just can't stop addressing his plonkees. It's almost like he isn't being entirely authentic....

#26 | Posted by DirkStruan

Fake Plastic Republicans are, well, Fake. Therefore, NOT authentic. It is their nature.

The funny thing is that they now all suddenly believe (hope) Trump "won" and that China will work with us and not cheat ever again. Ever. LOL

I believe anything "China" (much less Trump) says as far as I can throw them. Like I never trusted Russia after the cold war was supposedly over. How is that whole Russia thing working out for us?

Why would anyone believe our relations with China will fare any better? They are not interested in helping America be First. Especially since they know we have a Dotard In Charge (DIC). They know our Bigly DIC will believe anything they say as long as at the end of the day this Bigly DIC gets his red carpet treatment maybe a marching band and his beautiful chocolate cake and ice cream. And on good days maybe they will let the DIC fire off a few missiles and maybe even punish a few civil servants or some other random Americans with another Executive Order. The DIC then will sign anything they give him (and no matter who he punishes they will "love" him)!

Because that's Winning (in the mind of a DIC)!

#34 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-12-31 06:08 PM | Reply

the Right's daily self-affirming-----------.

I rarely go on the Nooner so I don't participate in that with the Usual Suspects on the DR Right.

I repeat:

If you (or anyone other than Danni) want to comment substantively to the thread topic, I welcome it.

#35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 06:10 PM | Reply

Wait, what? We were told to believe that this was BS and that China would never back down...

(That's my substantive comment.)

(It may look familiar.)

#36 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-31 06:14 PM | Reply

I believe anything "China" (much less Trump) says as far as I can throw them.

Agreed, but as I said earlier, any trade agreement with China is better than what we have now.

Like I never trusted Russia after the cold war was supposedly over. How is that whole Russia thing working out for us?

That's funny, I must have missed you heckling that whole "Reset Button" fiasco, or supporting Mitt Romney when he said that the US' greatest threat was Russia.

#37 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 06:15 PM | Reply

#36

Good boy...Snoofy want a cracker?

#38 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 06:18 PM | Reply

"I must have missed you heckling that whole "Reset Button" fiasco, or supporting Mitt Romney when he said that the US' greatest threat was Russia."

Substantive.
Bigly substantive!

#39 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-31 06:22 PM | Reply

"I rarely go on the Nooner so I don't participate in that with the Usual Suspects on the DR Right." - #35 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 06:10 PM

I wasn't talking the Nooner, in which I don't participate, either.

Meanwhile, the Right's daily self-affirming-----------:

Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 04:38 PM | Reply | Flagged funny by nullifidian
Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 04:07 PM | Reply | Flagged newsworthy by nullifidian
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Posted by AuntieSocial at 2018-12-31 02:41 PM | Reply | Flagged funny by Rightocenter
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Posted by sentinel at 2018-12-29 06:48 PM | Reply | Flagged newsworthy by Rightocenter
Need a Kleenex?

Happy New Year!

#40 | Posted by Hans at 2018-12-31 06:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

"Agreed, but as I said earlier, any trade agreement with China is better than what we have now."

Citation needed, moron.

#41 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-12-31 06:45 PM | Reply

#40

LOL, that must have taken a while, even for a Master of Who Flagged Who --.

On the other hand, all I need to do is click on the comments on any thread to see the daily congratulatory self affirmation of the DR Left that is the entire purpose of the DR in the first place.

#42 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 06:53 PM | Reply

If you (or anyone other than Danni) want to comment substantively to the thread topic, I welcome it.
#35 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

Substantive? Like this?

Wait, what? We were told to believe that this was BS and that China would never back down...
-The DR Left
#1 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER

First post on the thread sets the tone for the entire thread.

You're a joke RoC.

You're a troll. And a liar. And a wannabe victim.

You are a Trumpublican.

#43 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-31 06:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"daily congratulatory self affirmation of the DR Left that is the entire purpose of the DR in the first place."

So why are you here?

#44 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-31 06:57 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#44

To educate the less fortunate like yourself.

#45 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 07:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Rightostupid is here to troll. Full stop.

#46 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2018-12-31 07:13 PM | Reply

"To educate the less fortunate like yourself."

Want a cracker?

#47 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-31 07:26 PM | Reply

That's funny, I must have missed you heckling that whole "Reset Button" fiasco, or supporting Mitt Romney when he said that the US' greatest threat was Russia.

#37 | Posted by Rightocenter

No point in me heckling. You all did a fine job of it. While is important to keep diplomatic options open so attempting a reset is what Diplomats do.

That doesn't mean invite them into the oval office and tell them state secrets and let them plant listening devices.

#48 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-12-31 07:28 PM | Reply

"...all I need to do is click on the comments on any thread to see the daily congratulatory self affirmation of the DR Left..." - #42 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 06:53 PM

"Unlike Babbles, Nulli isn't wrong..." - #14 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 04:09 PM
Versus...
"I have to disagree with you, Danni. Especially on the "corporations more power than nations" part." - #9 | Posted by Hans at 2018-12-31 11:17 AM
Try paying attention before posting.

You're welcome.

And, again, HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

#49 | Posted by Hans at 2018-12-31 08:03 PM | Reply

The DR left can't stand the idea that China would make a deal with a President that doesn't have a D after his name, even, or especially, if it helps the American working class.

#6 | Posted by nullifidian

I'll believe it when I see it.

Kim Jung Un played him like a cheap orange fiddle.

Pros like China will probably parade him around like a prized bitch at a kennel club and he'll act like having his teeth checked and a sausage treat shoved in his mouth was all part of his genius plan.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-31 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Nor do I care, since Clown never has anything important or germane to say anyway.

Bite away, little man.

#7 | Posted by Rightocenter

But yet...you plonked him.

#51 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-31 11:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Unlike Babbles, Nulli isn't wrong, you just hate that he points out the inconsistencies in the latest narrative.

#14 | Posted by Rightocenter

Yawn. Hardly.

He bitches and moans because that's all he has to offer.

And the problem with the hypocrisy argument is the person posting it is often a hypocrite by default for caring enough to whine about the hypocrisy of it all.

#52 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-31 11:08 PM | Reply

But yet...you plonked him.

#51 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2018-12-31 11:06 PM

Which is entirely the point...not sure how you missed that.

#53 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 11:12 PM | Reply

Hans, we all get that Nulli really gets under your collective skin since he no longer participates in the DR Left's daily self-affirming----------- where you all congratulate yourselves on agreeing with each other.

Yeah sure, that's it.

Christ you guys have a seriously pathetic lack of awareness.

#54 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-31 11:12 PM | Reply

Which is entirely the point...not sure how you missed that.

#53 | Posted by Rightocenter

But yet you have your little lap dog yip yip their posts back to you so you can act you don't care.

#55 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-31 11:15 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#54

LOL, pot meet kettle.

I hope you aren't driving anywhere.

#56 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 11:17 PM | Reply

#55

If that is how you read that you are as much of a box of rocks as my ankle biters are.

#57 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 11:18 PM | Reply

Happy New Years JPW.

#58 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-12-31 11:25 PM | Reply

LOL, pot meet kettle.

I hope you aren't driving anywhere.

#56 | Posted by Rightocenter

What exactly am I unaware of?

And I stay in on New Years. Too much of a homebody to want to be in big crowds anymore.

If that is how you read that you are as much of a box of rocks as my ankle biters are.

#57 | Posted by Rightocenter

If he's bad enough to plonk, he would be bad enough to ignore when somebody makes their posts visible by quoting and responding to them.

Happy New Years JPW.

#58 | Posted by Rightocenter

You as well.

#59 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-31 11:31 PM | Reply

If that is how you read that you are as much of a box of rocks as my ankle biters are.

#57 | POSTED BY RIGHTOCENTER AT 2018-12-31 11:18 PM | FLAG:

Looks like JP hit a nerve.

#60 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-01 12:20 AM | Reply

Happy neww years retorters!

#61 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2019-01-01 12:22 AM | Reply

But yet...you plonked him.

#51 | POSTED BY JPW

He plonked me due to being butthurt.

He claims otherwise.

But it was a direct result of getting his face rubbed in his shht.

It's pathetic.

#62 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-01 01:44 AM | Reply

Gwad they hate it when something Trump does works.

#63 | Posted by sames1 at 2019-01-01 02:00 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

The details of that deal are yet to be ironed out, however.

Ah, the Devil. Where is the Devil again?

#64 | Posted by REDIAL at 2019-01-01 02:21 AM | Reply

REDIAL

"Ah, the Devil. Where is the Devil again?"

If patterns mean anything, America will get the short straw and Trump will add another piggy bank to his list of financiers.

#65 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-01 03:55 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

No one should be fooled when Trump renames another fake free trade agreement based on monopoly patent extensions. His tariffs do constitute a substantive change but are illegal under existing trade agreements and will eventually lead to more taxpayer punishment when he loses in the world court. Otherwise, Trump is just another Corporate servant, with a pocket full of phony populist talking points he never had any intention of fulfilling.

#66 | Posted by bayviking at 2019-01-01 10:35 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"The DR left can't stand the idea that China would make a deal with a President that doesn't have a D after his name, even, or especially, if it helps the American working class."

The DR Right pretends that Trump is victorious before any agreement, any changes to trade policies have even occurred. This will be a success much like the one between Trump and Kim Jung Un. In other words it won't be a success. This is just more meaningless posturing and pretending from the most duplicitous nation on Earth; China. Only fools believe it when our leaders claim to have achieved real fair trade agreements with China, ain't ever going to happen.

#67 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-01 11:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"If patterns mean anything, America will get the short straw and Trump will add another piggy bank to his list of financiers."

When an American President is "for sale" why shouldn't the leader of China take advantage just as Putin and the Crown Prince of Saudi have? He'd be a fool not to.

#68 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-01 11:12 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Pardon me, RIGHTOBOUTNOTHING, but after the disastrous PR stunt Trump did (and then lied about) with Kim Jong-Un, I'll first wait and see what actually happens before doing a victory dance of any sort.

Let's also remember that if China and the USA do normalize trade, IT WAS ALREADY NORMALIZED before Trump drove us all into debt through rhetoric and tariffs: farmers who now receive billions in welfare, soybeans in storage (hopefully they won't rot before spring), and then all USA consumers, who have to endure higher prices.

#69 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-01-01 01:23 PM | Reply

Gwad they hate it when something Trump does works.

#63 | Posted by sames1 at 2019-01-01 02:00 AM | Reply | Flag: STILL WAITING FOR THAT "SOMETHING"

#70 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-01-01 01:23 PM | Reply

any trade agreement with China is better than what we have now.

You mean. Whatever trade agreement China gives Trump will be better than what Trump has currently done for trade between America and China?

Thanks Trump!

#71 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-01 01:32 PM | Reply

I see a lot of rabid hatred of Trump in this thread. I gave Obama credit when he did something good. Not many on here are willing to admit if Trump does anything good. this is the behaviour that is tearing America apart.

#72 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-01-01 01:53 PM | Reply

I gave Obama credit when he did something good.

Sure you did.

Not many on here are willing to admit if Trump does anything good.

What has Trump done, which you feel he deserves credit for?

#73 | Posted by ClownShack at 2019-01-01 01:58 PM | Reply

China needs to come back in a few months when we're under new/sane management.

#74 | Posted by Tor at 2019-01-01 02:04 PM | Reply

Ok, this is one of the few things I applaud Trump on - in theory. I totally agree something needs to be done about China and not just in trade but his lack of strategy as well as "tact" and self control just shows how ill prepared he is. China abuses, cheats and lies in every agreement they are constrained by. Just look at how they are one of the primary Interpol abusers as an example. Look at the on going issues with NK for another - they could have brought an end to that mess decades ago.

You have to make it in their best interest do something and that is the ONLY way they will do it. The trade tariffs on foreign goods into China need to go. They are ridiculous. Our products for example cost almost 6 times what they are purchased for due to tariffs and fees when someone imports them there. The only way the communists and Xi stay in power is employing, housing and feeding the population.

Another thing that needs to be addressed is their government's involvement in manufacturing and industry in general. It results in dumping and unfair trade practices. They subsidize and drive the advancement and growth of manufacturing and that allows dumping places like here - the USA. If you don't understand think Tires and Solar Panels and search on China's dumping history. Not that subsidizing advancement is a bad thing but to subsidize the actual production is something altogether different.

All this goes back to the fact that China is still a fascist totalitarian dictatorship under the guise of Communism. They actually do have a long term strategy which the democracies of today seem incapable of. The discord being sown by other totalitarian regimes like Russia don't help that.

#75 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2019-01-01 02:06 PM | Reply

I totally agree with Galaxiepete's post. Bravo.

#76 | Posted by e1g1 at 2019-01-01 03:28 PM | Reply

I always saw The Donald's tariffs as a bargaining chips to negotiate to where both parties could meet somewhere acceptable in the 'middle' as it is the Art of The Deal; just look at the redone 'NAFTA'. Too many on the left never paid attention to that fact that he is a businessman first and applies his talents in that area to get to where he wants to go.

#77 | Posted by MSgt at 2019-01-01 05:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Trump's "bargaining chip" if delayed by exemption, which seems to be the norm now are sort of just empty threats. Xi is playing Trump like a fiddle.

#78 | Posted by danni at 2019-01-01 07:49 PM | Reply

#77 is there some sort of gullible fool competition righties are competing for?

Businessman pfftttt you still believe that tripe?

#79 | Posted by jpw at 2019-01-01 08:14 PM | Reply

Hopefully a trade deal happens. Large countries that don't trade tend to go to war with each other.

#80 | Posted by JeffJ at 2019-01-02 11:36 AM | Reply

Too many on the left never paid attention to that fact that he is a businessman first and applies his talents in that area to get to where he wants to go.

#77 | Posted by MSgt

It's true!

I never realized how excellent Humpy was at creating a crisis that only Humpy can solve by undoing the whatever it is that he did to create the crisis in the first place. Until it was too late, of course.

The sign of a true "stable genius".

We Never saw it coming!

#81 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-02 01:15 PM | Reply

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