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Monday, December 31, 2018

Transportation Security Administration employees, who are staffing airports at one of the busiest travel times of the year, are dealing with low morale, frustration at Washington and uncertainty over how they'll pay rent or feed their families if the government shutdown drags on.

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Of course they are thrilled to not get a pay check.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-31 02:33 PM | Reply

Who cares?

-The Deplorables

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-12-31 05:24 PM | Reply

Obviously they are all Democrats.

#3 | Posted by Corky at 2018-12-31 07:44 PM | Reply

Low morals parade president forced to look at uncontrived human factors for 3 seconds, Next on Fox.

#4 | Posted by LesWit at 2018-12-31 08:38 PM | Reply

Quit !!

I did, and it as the best thing I did.

Tail wags Dog.

WIN :-)

#5 | Posted by bat4255 at 2018-12-31 09:05 PM | Reply

Shame on Schumer. He doesn't read Trump very well. $5 billion is crumbs. Why all the fuss? Farting Schumer just let out another stinker.

#6 | Posted by sames1 at 2018-12-31 10:24 PM | Reply

As long as the Order up/ Uber eats / McDonalds / KFC delivery guy is still being paid Individual-1 won't care...

#7 | Posted by catdog at 2018-12-31 10:44 PM | Reply

Shame on Schumer. He doesn't read Trump very well. $5 billion is crumbs. Why all the fuss? Farting Schumer just let out another stinker.

#6 | Posted by sames1

Are you one of the idiots who argued in the past that defunding Big Bird was necessary because "every little bit counts"?

#8 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-31 11:03 PM | Reply

#8 | POSTED BY JPW
"Are you one of the idiots who argued in the past that defunding Big Bird was necessary because "every little bit counts"?"

Ha!@!!!

Suddenly, out of nowhere, you are fiscally conservative? After the Obama disasters that murdered money like ObamaCare ( Affordable my A**) , Cash for Clunkers, ( oh yeah, that was brilliant ) and the Stimulus ( almost a TRILLION dollars squandered ) I'm laughing

Building the wall will SAVE the US money, but you don't, won't, believe that because you read and are hypnotised by ThinkProgress and other rags.

#9 | Posted by sames1 at 2019-01-01 01:58 AM | Reply

This here is some bullS#%^!!

Its part of the reason I never went civilian govt. No choices.

#10 | Posted by fresno500 at 2019-01-01 08:48 AM | Reply

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Suddenly, out of nowhere, you are fiscally conservative? After the Obama disasters that murdered money like ObamaCare ( Affordable my A**) , Cash for Clunkers, ( oh yeah, that was brilliant ) and the Stimulus ( almost a TRILLION dollars squandered ) I'm laughing

#9 | POSTED BY SAMES1

Obamacare was paid for ...

How Congress paid for Obamacare (in two charts)
www.washingtonpost.com

The reason healthcare costs continue to rise is because of the following ...

Top Ten Reasons Why Healthcare Costs Are Rising
www.youtube.com
[16:05 – 21:35]
1. Population growth and aging
2. Uncontrolled proliferation of technology
3. Increasing chronic care demands
4. Direct to consumer marketing of healthcare products and services
5. Restriction of managed care practices
6. Legislative healthcare mandates
7. Consolidation of healthcare providers
8. Rising liability insurance costs
9. Excessive demand ("Consumptive Society")
10. Care variation from best evidence (i.e. poor quality)

Cash for clunkers was $3 billion.

Obama's Stimulus was almost $1 trillion -- by the way, that really needs to be compared to ...
-- The Trump/Republican tax cuts were $1.5 trillion
-- The two Bush Tax Cuts were $6.6 trillion finance.yahoo.com
-- The 2008 Wall Street Bailout cost $12.8 trillion www.youtube.com

QUESTION (two parts): who's more responsible with America's taxpayer money, and why spend money on a "wall" when history show's walls don't work?

#11 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2019-01-01 09:16 AM | Reply

$5 billion is crumbs

The promise was that Mexico would pay for it, not that it wouldn't cost very much.

Also, $5,000,000,000.00 is a lot of money. You could cover 852,017 uninsured Americans with that, or fund universal pre-K, or replace lead laterals to a million American homes.

I thought Republicans were "fiscal conservatives." Their $1,500,000,000,000.00 giveaway to billionaires and their argument that $5,000,000,000.00 is not a lot of money seems to indicate otherwise.

#12 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-01 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

If Mexico won't pay for the wall, then get Robert Mercer to do it:

The Trump administration may have to decide whether to press one of his biggest backers on a contested $6.8 billion tax bill

President Donald Trump's administration is now responsible for collecting nearly $7 billion in unpaid taxes from the company of one of its biggest hedge fund backers.

In July 2014, a Senate committee inquiry found that Renaissance Technologies allegedly tried to transform short-term trades into long-term ones (which are taxed at a lower rate) in transactions with Barclays and Deutsche Bank. Their goal, according to the committee: Avoid paying $6.8 billion in taxes between 1999 and 2014.

New Yorker writer Jane Mayer wrote on Twitter Monday that hedge fund billionaire Robert Mercer, whom she recently profiled as the "reclusive hedge fund tycoon behind the Trump presidency," is co-CEO of Renaissance, and that Trump's administration "can now decide whether to press for payment - or not."

www.businessinsider.com

#13 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-01 10:30 AM | Reply

$5 billion is crumbs.

That's not the total cost to build the wall, no less fund its maintenance and repair. There are no good estimates for how much it will cost, because they don't even have a plan for what they would build. It is absolutely certain that $5B is way too low. See the GAO report here.

$5B is a lot of money to most organizations, even within the federal government. It is nearly twice the entire budget of the National Park Service, for example. There is a backlog of nearly $12B in deferred maintain within the NPS as well.

The reality is the wall will cost way more than $5B just to build, then Billions a year to maintain. When there is an actual, realistic estimate, then we can have a discussion about whether it is a cost-effective solution to any actual problem. That is, if we can actually use real information about what the benefits of such a wall would be. So far, I haven't seen any actual data supporting any actual benefit to a wall. I've seen lots of poor statistical analysis trying to establish the cost of illegal immigration in total to the US, but those analyses have been very poorly conducted. Even if we had the real number for that, we already know the wall will not stop a large fraction of illegal immigration, such as those entering legally and then simply remaining.

Let's see a realistic cost-benefit analysis for the sections that still "need" to be built with actual data before we start spending money on it. When I say "realistic", I mean one that hasn't already presumed a conclusion and then attempts to shoe-horn the data to support it.

#14 | Posted by StatsPlease at 2019-01-01 12:27 PM | Reply

--$5 billion is crumbs.
***

--That's not the total cost to build the wall,

Nobody said it was. That's a one-year appropriation. Estimates from DHS is about 21 billion in total. Assume double that. Out of a 4 trillion annual budget, it's crumbs. Would pay for about 4 months of "free" college tuition.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-01 12:36 PM | Reply

Would pay for about 4 months of "free" college tuition.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-01 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Sounds good to me.

#16 | Posted by Zed at 2019-01-01 12:52 PM | Reply

Would pay for about 4 months of "free" college tuition.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-01 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Those four months would be a windfall for any hard-working and ambitious man or woman.

#17 | Posted by Zed at 2019-01-01 12:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

annual pay for TSA officers starts at around $25,000 to $30,000 a year.

That is what I found shocking. I have been wanting a federal govt job for a while because of the benefits and retirement but was thinking they started out at 55-70K. No way anybody can live off 25k. Maybe back in 1984 but not now

#18 | Posted by byrdman at 2019-01-01 01:14 PM | Reply

Estimates from DHS is about 21 billion in total. Assume double that. Out of a 4 trillion annual budget, it's crumbs.

Save these threads for whenever Democrats propose a policy that actually helps Americans that costs $42,000,000,000.00 or less, and the inevitable Republican posts about "how are we going to pay for that."

#19 | Posted by JOE at 2019-01-01 02:55 PM | Reply


@#6 ... $5 billion is crumbs. ...

If $5 billion is crumbs, why not spend $5 billion on healthcare?

Or for that matter $10 billion on healthcare? (is double crumbs still crumbs? you seem to be the expert on crumbs...)

It is not the amount ('crumbs"), it is the purpose of the expenditure, and whether or not the cost/benefit analysis results are worth it.

Republicans seem to think that any money spent on improving healthcare results in a poor cost/benefit analysis. Republicans appear to prefer that only those who have a lot of money should be able to get healthcare.

Sometimes I wonder if that is like the Republicans in Michigan who apparently tried to poison those in Flint because they were of a difffering political opinion.

#20 | Posted by LampLighter at 2019-01-01 08:29 PM | Reply

"Several workers criticized the government for playing politics with people's lives."

That's been said for many, many, many years. It sucks how often Dems and Reps prove they don't care about the working person and yet so many people still fall for their crap. The Legislative branch needs a third group of Congress that is solely made up of people picked by a lottery system across the country. We have the technology today where people don't need to be physically located together all the time, just for important meetings. Choose people like they do jury duty, make it as big as the House of Reps, and pay those people what House and Senate politicians make, and tenure is set at like 2 to 4 years. Anyone can deny serving if their name comes up.

That way we have true representation of the people in the government. So many of the comments made here that sound like common sense to the rest of us will appear more often in Congress and become part of the discussion than they do today. We really do need to find a way to have a true representation of the people in the government in order to really start improving.

#21 | Posted by humtake at 2019-01-02 12:03 PM | Reply

The TSA is trash. They should have low morale. They're paid to put their hands down unwilling participant's pants. Go back to McDonald's and earn your low morale in the private sector.

#22 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2019-01-02 12:16 PM | Reply

Would pay for about 4 months of "free" college tuition.

#15 | Posted by nullifidian at 2019-01-01 12:36 PM | Reply | Flag:

Those four months would be a windfall for any hard-working and ambitious man or woman.

#17 | Posted by Zed

Yeah... but just think. Who needs an education when you got a wall!

A wall! A Big Beautiful Wall! With a Big Beautiful Gate!! And you can see through it! (or not)

And Mexico will pay for it! (or not)

It will go 100 feet deep (or not)!
It will go 100 feet tall (or not)!
It will generate Solar Power(or not)!
It will never fall! (because it will never be built!)

#23 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-02 01:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

$5 billion is crumbs. Why all the fuss?

#6 | POSTED BY SAMES1

Then it should be super easy to get Mexico to pay for it as Trump promised. All they have to do is stick the "crumbs" in an envelope and mail it to the US Treasury.

Why should Schumer let Trump get away with a promise that he's still promising?

#24 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2019-01-02 03:33 PM | Reply

@#6 ... "$5 billion is crumbs. ... "

SAMES1 just doesn't understand . . .

Mexico said no.
Trump said yes.
Mexico said no.
Trump said yes.
Mexico said "bite me."

#25 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-02 04:23 PM | Reply

"Suddenly, out of nowhere, you are fiscally conservative? "

Republicans were given true surplus budgets, and reset the fiscal sights of America to deficits instead.

STFU before you embarrass yourself further.

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2019-01-02 04:27 PM | Reply

Like I said the other day, Robert Mercer owes the federal govt $6.8 billion in back taxes. If Trump wants the wall so damn badly, let him collect the money Mercer owes to pay for it instead of asking millions of average income Americans to foot the bill.

#27 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-02 04:38 PM | Reply

Or Trump could use his own money:

GOP Rep. Walter Jones Suggests Trump Pay for Part of His Wall

‘The president might consider pledging some of his own funds' If Mexico won't pay, Jones says

www.rollcall.com

#28 | Posted by Gal_Tuesday at 2019-01-02 06:11 PM | Reply

The Russians are probably enjoying this whole fiasco so much maybe they will pay for it just to keep the chaos going longer?

#29 | Posted by donnerboy at 2019-01-02 06:12 PM | Reply

#29

Think of all the operatives they are recruiting amongst all the cash strapped, bitter federal workers.

#30 | Posted by DirkStruan at 2019-01-02 06:23 PM | Reply

GAL

The whole thing was just "vote bait" anyway. Trump never really cared about a wall until his base bought his spiel and started to hold his feet to the fire. They actually took him seriously. They thought it was a wonderful idea and Trump played on their enthusiasm.

This wall thing is just another lie that backfired.

Now he's between a wall and a hard place. His base is going to disembowel him if he doesn't get that money.

#31 | Posted by Twinpac at 2019-01-02 06:28 PM | Reply

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