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Saturday, December 29, 2018

As moves toward peace pick up in Afghanistan, the Taliban are trying to show they have changed since the brutal days of the 1990s when they banned music and girls' education and carried out public executions in Kabul's football stadium. "If peace comes and the Taliban return, then our return will not be in the same harsh way as it was in 1996," Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid told Reuters, referring to the year they took over in Kabul before their ouster by U.S.-led troops in 2001. "We want to assure Afghan nationals that there will be no threat to anyone from our side."

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With Afghanistan likely to remain dependent on foreign aid for years, the Taliban know they cannot return to the past when fighters swept into Kabul after the chaos of the 1990s civil war.

"I think that these statements that the Taliban have changed are only excuses that are being used by the Taliban to gain acceptance," said Malina Hamidi, a teacher at a school in the Chamtal district of Balkh province.

"I am 100 percent confident that once they come back to power, they will be the same Taliban that ruled Afghanistan in the '90s."

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I would trust the Tliban or the Republican Party ever.

#1 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-28 03:33 PM | Reply

Taliban violence is terrifying, up close and personal, based on false religious beliefs. US military violence is much grander and impersonal, napalm fries the skin off every sex, ether bombs deprive all life of oxygen, spent uranium will cause birth defects in all living things for millions of years. But, our technological advantages have never been able to break the human desire for freedom and independence.

#2 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-12-29 10:17 AM | Reply

A summit meeting with Individual-1 would burnish The groups reputation in the eyes of the world AND among Repubs. Think of it: The Dotard standing next to a bunch of guys sworn to his death and that of all Americans. Unimaginable? So is his bromance with Young Kim...

#3 | Posted by catdog at 2018-12-29 10:19 AM | Reply

John McCain was a patriotic American and I would never say different but his role in Vietnam was to drop napalm on villages. I could never get past that when I thought about him, I honestly wanted to like him but I could never get past that. I don't care what the motivation was I could never have done that, I honestly don't know how people like him lived with themselves when they came back home.
Same goes for our pilots who bombed Iraq or Afghanistan. Fighting the enemy's military is one thing but bombing civillians is quite another. I'm not bashing the memory of McCain, he did his patriotic duty as a member of our armed forces and he suffered horribly in N. Vietnamese prison but when do our people and our military say "enough", we will not indulge in one more unnecessary, cruel, evil war?
And, I hope, that if Trump tries to start a war with Iran, we don't let him and throw his ass out of office. That is one of my biggest fears for this country today because politicians in the past have used unnecessary "Trumped" up wars (see what I did there?) to deflect attention from their misdeeds and malfeasance in office.

#4 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-29 11:00 AM | Reply

Hu-sane O'bummer that Krazy Kenyan, started all these wars...

When Trump tries to pull troops out of Syria, you armchair snowflake rag heads start to cry like the world is about to end...

So which iz it? Leave and save 1.7 Trillion or stay in Syria for another 17 years??

Ya can't have it both ways...

As for the Taliban... we have been fighting them for 17 years and we still can't beat those goat farmers...

Last war we DID win was back in 1945.

American men had more testosterone back then...

#5 | Posted by Pegasus at 2018-12-29 11:04 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

If we treated Afghanistan like we did to the enemy in WWII, there would be a lot more craters in mountainsides and flattened villages. America wouldn't be able to handle the collateral damage.

#6 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-12-29 11:42 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

"If we treated Afghanistan like we did to the enemy in WWII"

We dropped more bombs on Vietnam than in all of WWII.

An F-4 Phantom II carries more than double the payload of a B-17 Flying Fortress.

How'd that work out for us, child?

#7 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-29 11:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Afghanistan is a craphole and trump is making making it worse..."

www.quora.com

Impinchloaf trump now, orange man bad!

NPC # 74164

#8 | Posted by mutant at 2018-12-29 11:59 AM | Reply

If we treated Afghanistan like we did to the enemy in WWII, there would be a lot more craters in mountainsides and flattened villages. America wouldn't be able to handle the collateral damage.

#6 | POSTED BY GONOLES92 AT 2018-12-29 11:42 AM

If we dropped fat man and little boy on Afghanistan I doubt the Taliban would have much to say. They would all be dead or dying of radiation poisoning.

#9 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-12-29 12:02 PM | Reply

How'd that work out for us, child?
#7 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Could've used a few more, old man.

#10 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-12-29 12:02 PM | Reply

If we dropped fat man and little boy on Afghanistan I doubt the Taliban would have much to say. They would all be dead or dying of radiation poisoning. #9 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN

"Oh so bright, it is warrior allah arriving to protek us"
Next second: dead.

#11 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-12-29 12:06 PM | Reply

"Could've used a few more, old man."

You know nothing about nothing.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-29 12:06 PM | Reply

Liberals, 2016: Our war against Muslims creates terrorists!

Liberals, 2018: If we discontinue armed conflict in Muslim regions, it will create terrorists!

#13 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-12-29 12:07 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You know nothing about nothing. #12 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Takes one to know one?

#14 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-12-29 12:08 PM | Reply

Thumbs up how you switched from
"war against Muslims"
to
"armed conflict in Muslim regions."

You're good at making your own gravy.

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-29 12:21 PM | Reply

You're good at making your own gravy.

#15 | POSTED BY SNOOFY

Gonzales loves to stew in his own sauce.

Like Humpy sitting all alone in the White House stewing in his own awesomeness but so so very RONERY.

How come the Democrats are not at his door and not begging for mercy?

Maybe we are finally becoming indifferent to his ignorance.

Anyway... you better not pout Gonzales!

And I'm telling you why!

The Democrats are coming to Town!

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-12-29 12:37 PM | Reply

"Liberals, 2016: Our war against Muslims creates terrorists!
Liberals, 2018: If we discontinue armed conflict in Muslim regions, it will create terrorists!"

Both statements are true. Try this; "if we didn't invade Muslim countries we wouldn't have had terrorists' attacks on the United States." That's all water under the bridge now, the Bush family took care of that for us. Papa build an air base in Riyadh, S.A. which inflamed Osama Bin Laden who created Al Quaeda and Jr. invaded and occupied Iraq which eventually created ISIS. Had neither of them done those things we would all be better off today. That's your very short history for today.

#17 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-29 12:45 PM | Reply

#13

Republicans, and hillary, broke it; they own it.

#18 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-12-29 12:46 PM | Reply

"Republicans, and hillary, broke it; they own it."

Dishonest politicians who lied to Congress own it. Members who believed them can be accused of being stupid or naive but they aren't responsible, they were acting on the intel that was provided by both Presidents Bush. Both lied to our Congress.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-29 01:13 PM | Reply

If we dropped fat man and little boy on Afghanistan I doubt the Taliban would have much to say.

So. You want to drop Trump and Paul Ryan on Afghanistan?

Interesting technique.

I'm sure they'd destroy Afghanistan as fast as they've destroyed America.

#20 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-29 01:28 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

If we discontinue armed conflict in Muslim regions, it will create terrorists!

I disagree with this sentiment.

We're the proverbial bull in a china shop. We don't know how to fix anything. All we know how to do is destroy. And the longer we stay. The more we destroy. The best thing we can do is leave.

#21 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-29 01:31 PM | Reply

"If we discontinue armed conflict in Muslim regions, it will create terrorists!
I disagree with this sentiment. "

I do too but if we leave then we desert the thousands of Afghanis who cooperated with us, fought alongside our forces, etc. We did this in Vietnam and millions died. If we do this in Afghanistan thousands will die. Colin Powell told us before we entered Iraq but it applies equally to Afghanistan, "The Pottery Barn Rule." Just because it is expensive and inconvenient today does not eliminate that truth. America needs to take responsibility for our nation's willingness to enter other nations, destroy the place, get the people to trust us and then just leave them to the punishments that will come from the enemy they helped us fight. Sorry liberals, you should have protested louder before we entered into those nations, it falls on deaf ears not, at least with me.

#22 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-29 01:50 PM | Reply

They should hire consulting firm of Manafort, Gates, and Flynn. They can fix their image.

#23 | Posted by autonomous at 2018-12-29 05:31 PM | Reply

#22 | POSTED BY DANNI

Honest question: should we stay and continue limited bombing runs and training the local forces for another ten years? The US could decide to stay another decade and we would be in a similar situation.

#24 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-12-29 06:09 PM | Reply

Honest question: should we stay...

You have to. Bagram is the only reliable air base you have in that part of the world.

#25 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-12-29 06:23 PM | Reply

Well first thing... they should start with those hats... loose the hats fellas... then add a splash of color like a nice sash with those thwabs... to accentuate the waists... and omg those shoes they wear!! They may as well be wearing crocks n' socks... such a disgrace when all it takes traditional saddle oxford for to put some sparkles in each step.... of course a sassy hareem barefooted look would go a long way spicing up casual Fridays.

#26 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-12-30 07:03 AM | Reply

The left was against invading Iraq to begin with and you called us,
Traitors" and we wanted to get out of Afghanistan when Obama came into office. Yet, you tough guy wanna be Rambo neoconservatives would have no part of "surrendering" or "cutting and running" and forced the US to stay there. Now, that the dumbass hero of yours TRump wants to play peacemaker you guys are all down for it, even if we leave our allies the Kurds at risk of death. People like you are the reason many people around the world hate Americans. And the willingness of your types to swallow any wet load that that orange treasonous bastard has for you to consume just shows how shallow of human beings your really are.

#27 | Posted by Tknees2 at 2018-12-30 02:55 PM | Reply

"Honest question: should we stay and continue limited bombing runs and training the local forces for another ten years? The US could decide to stay another decade and we would be in a similar situation."

The answer to that question is above my pay grade but we should have consulted with our allies including the Kurds before Trump unilaterally made a decision to just leave at the urging of Ergodan. Ir we are doing precisely what Ergodan wants us to do then it is a good bet that it is the wrong thing to do.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-30 03:11 PM | Reply

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