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Thursday, December 13, 2018

The Trump Administration's policies have halted a research effort seeking a cure for HIV. Snopes rating: True. ... HHS acknowledged that they had (at least temporarily) blocked staff scientists from procuring fetal tissue, but that they did not think -- or realize -- such a move would have affected the study in question ... In his interview with us, [HIV researcher Warner] Greene stated that this explanation made no sense. "To my knowledge ... we were never made aware that we should approach the NIH to inform them of our need for more fetal tissue to complete this investigation." If such a request were required, Greene said, he and his team would have "acted upon it in a millisecond." We also reached out to the director of NIH's National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (which oversees the Rocky Mountain Laboratory) for an update on the current status of the project and for clarification on the fetal tissue review's impact on the study but have not received a response.

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Pence's Christian attempt to reinvigorate the suppression of gays?

#1 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-12-11 10:16 PM | Reply

Black people, this is what you have to lose.

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-11 10:44 PM | Reply

The NIH is led by a devout Christian and the White House by the unchristian Trump.

I know I'm on the side of Christianity and science.

🎅

#3 | Posted by Tor at 2018-12-11 11:11 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"research project"

Such lying headline .... not surprising Snoofy falls for it hook line and sinker ... thats four threads ....
www.kff.org

#4 | Posted by AndreaMackris at 2018-12-11 11:53 PM | Reply

You agree with this move, Andrea?

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-12 12:33 AM | Reply

You agree with this move, Andrea?

Of course he does. He doesn't have AIDS. Why should he care?

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-12-12 12:42 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#4 | POSTED BY ANDREAMACKRIS

Not lying.

Tis da truth.

#7 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-12-12 02:08 PM | Reply

This makes sense. You need HIV as a threat if you're going to use old-school GOP anti-LGBT tactics.

#8 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-12-12 05:16 PM | Reply

Snopes is a piece of chit shill for the Democratic side of the heads you lose tails I win coin, I have to question anything they say is true.

This one is easy

Why was I born with such contemporaries?

Every serious HIV scientist knows that there are several road maps to cures in different directions with this disease, and it is very drudge like to imply that it is Donald Trump who is guilty, several paths of research were available for 1/2 of Obamas term if not more

it is just way too profitable to drug companies selling the drugs... 20% of the money spent on drugs in this country is for HIV treatment....and it helps create an enemy for extermination when our current accounting Lie of a federal budget crashes.

Much better to use it as an issue to Foster more hate...I'm glad folks are seeing it more...Dems suck the energy and waste the time of the good intentioned...

we have internal memos from Goldman Sachs admitting that medical research hurts the bottom line.

There's no interest at all in a 100 million dollar venture capital groundbreaking scientific crispr study..fetal tissue not required.. Editing one single line of genetic code... They are curing leukemia editing several, but they will not cure HIV because it's too lucrative and just the right demographics of people die who get AIDS.

I'm pretty sure it's far more complicated to insert a new Gene in a fetus than it is to create modified stem cells from our own genetic material. And yet, we seem to have genetically engineered HIV resistant mutants, now, too.

This is a great example of rich people turning the rest of the people against each other.

From CEOs to shareholders, the world is too busy making billions monthly to get depressed watching people die slower death

#9 | Posted by Cannante at 2018-12-13 11:50 PM | Reply

#9 "Obama didn't cure HIV so its okay trump's shutting down research."

---- off russians.

#10 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-12-13 11:56 PM | Reply

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Happy feast of st Lucy...

Who with a betrothed that loved her eyes and a desire to be a nun, cut out her eyes and sent them to him..the logic and passion of a blind teen girl seems appropriate to this thread

#11 | Posted by Cannante at 2018-12-13 11:58 PM | Reply

Snopes is ran by an independent couple from CANADA IIRC. It's NOT a Democrat nor Republican bastion.

#12 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-12-14 12:18 AM | Reply

Happy feast of st Lucy...

Who with a betrothed that loved her eyes and a desire to be a nun, cut out her eyes and sent them to him..the logic and passion of a blind teen girl seems appropriate to this thread

#11 | POSTED BY Comrade Cammy

Are you a new alt-right racist Nazi or are you an old one hiding behind a new account? Which is it, Snowflake?

#13 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-12-14 03:54 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah...all y'all that responded to my posts are as substantiative as BOTH Trump and Obama

If u have any interest in this issue (medical care) the truth I observe preemptively addresses each critique written. And I'm not going to cast pearls to people who are more interested in ego driven winning than truth.

But PayPal me an honorarium and I can endeavor to teach a pig to sing

Anyone who thinks I'm right-wing is as smart as the fascists that think we need more border security

Only ironic stupidity I want to address ATM is Laura's.....

So Trump can collude with Russians but Dems would NEVER collude with Canada?

Personally I would demand a refund from your logic lessons.

#14 | Posted by Cannante at 2018-12-14 07:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Only ironic stupidity I want to address ATM is Laura's.....
So Trump can collude with Russians but Dems would NEVER collude with Canada?
Personally I would demand a refund from your logic lessons.

#14 | POSTED BY CANNANTE AT 2018-12-14 07:09 AM | FLAG:

God the stupidity is just so strong with this one it reeks. Let me guess. Home schooled??

#15 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-12-14 07:53 AM | Reply

So now we have to go (a favorite of rapist William Jefferson Clinton to MIS-identify) all ad hominem.

So she starts with a strawman and goes to ad hom.

Still no substance.... Snopes is biased, HIV would be cured by now had Democrats not followed Reagan's (what did the Goldwater girl call it...just in the wrong room in front of the wrong people...) Quiet advocacy (?) With budget cuts and a fake gonowhere health care plan in the 90s DESIGNED to fail.

Do u work for gilead, Laura? Or is your trust fund just heavily invested in pharma?

Pope Francis cripped me when he published 'virtual cannibalism'

But thanks for playing!

#16 | Posted by Cannante at 2018-12-14 08:15 AM | Reply

CANNANTE You ARE the weakest link. Goodbye.

#17 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-12-14 08:20 AM | Reply

"So now we have to go (a favorite of rapist William Jefferson Clinton to MIS-identify) all ad hominem."

Trump supporter has the never to post that? Laughable.

#18 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-14 08:21 AM | Reply

"So Trump can collude with Russians but Dems would NEVER collude with Canada?"

Colluding with one of oldest and best allies? Sorry, no shame there.

"Let me guess. Home schooled??"

No Laura, not schooled at all. Total ignorance and proud of it.

#19 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-14 08:22 AM | Reply

So Trump can collude with Russians but Dems would NEVER collude with Canada?

#14 | POSTED BY CANNANTE

Just a sec.

Trump is accused of colluding with Russia to break the law (hacking) and subvert our elections.

You are complaining about colluding with Canada to... point out lies told in politics and inform the public of the actual facts?

Makes sense. I can see that Republicans would think that pointing out lies should be illegal.

#20 | Posted by gtbritishskull at 2018-12-14 09:00 AM | Reply

" HIV would be cured by now had Democrats not followed Reagan's ...

#16 | POSTED BY CANNANTE AT 2018-12-14 08:15 AM | REPLY | FLAG:"

To quote Eddie Izzard - " you do know there are other countries out there, don't you?"

#21 | Posted by Foreigner at 2018-12-14 09:04 AM | Reply

Colluding with Canada; aka cooperating with our closest allies.

#22 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-14 09:06 AM | Reply

Haha! This is classic. There will be an article soon like "Did Trump's actions lead to the Big Bang?" or "Did Trump cause the dinosaurs to become extinct?".

Seriously, I get the fact that maybe getting rid of the research could have an impact on future research but the spin Liberals use in this kind of article that basically infers HIV still exists because of Trump is just so absurd that it's funny. Partisan hate in full force.

#23 | Posted by humtake at 2018-12-14 11:48 AM | Reply

HIV still exists because of Trump is just so absurd that it's funny.

Why are you combating supposed hyperbole with more hyperbole?

Pitiful tactic.

#24 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-12-14 01:26 PM | Reply

People on this thread seem to be missing a big point on this ending of hiv research like this.

Curing HIV/AIDS will badly damage the pharmaceutical industry. Cures are not profitable.

The pharmaceutical industry (as well as other industries - especially the big ones -- own the Republican party. (They only rent the Democratic party)

And its pretty clear that Trump will sign anything his Republican masters put in front of him.

So this isn't about christianism, this isn't about Obama, this isn't about social norms. This is about profits. Like nearly everything Trump touches.

#25 | Posted by prius04 at 2018-12-14 02:23 PM | Reply

"but the spin Liberals use in this kind of article that basically infers HIV still exists because of Trump"

That's your spin.

"I get the fact that maybe getting rid of the research could have an impact on future research"

That's the liberal spin.
It also just happens to be true.

#26 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-14 02:31 PM | Reply

There is no money in cures.

There's only money in treatment.

#27 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-12-14 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

There is no money in cures.
There's only money in treatment.
#27 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT

^
I'll keep this in mind next time I drive past the Salk Institute on oceanfront property in La Jolla.

#28 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-12-14 05:27 PM | Reply

It's stupid to cease funding on a up-and-running laboratory looking for cures for viruses. What else is the pittance of money going to be spent on? A high-gloss shine on Air Force One?

#29 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-12-14 09:02 PM | Reply

MAD

This isn't the only thing Trump cutting.

Maybe he's just a vindictive ------- who gets his power-kicks hurting people ... or maybe he's trying to make room in the budget for his Wall.

I opt for the first option.

#30 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-12-14 09:32 PM | Reply

I don't give one ---- about aborted tissue. Just cure the disease please. Let's harvest babies from fugly girl's wombs if necessary. Murder puppies or rape goldfish. Chop up Asian people's ------ and make milkshakes. Whatever it takes to help people. Trump doesn't care about people who wouldn't vote for him.

#31 | Posted by TylerDurden at 2018-12-15 02:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

These evagelicals with new-found power want anyone not like them to suffer and die!

PRAISE JESUS!!

#32 | Posted by getoffmedz at 2018-12-15 11:29 AM | Reply

Anybody claiming HIV could be cured already doesn't know dick about HIV.

#33 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-15 06:01 PM | Reply

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