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Tuesday, December 04, 2018

The Group of 20 summit in Argentina is taking place at a moment when the United States still stands at the center of the world. The U.S. economy is booming, the dollar is almighty, American technology companies continue to dominate the new digital economy, and the U.S. military remains the unrivaled master of land, sky and sea. But there are forces, both short-term and long-term, that are working to erode this hegemony.



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"...American retreat will not produce a better world. It will be messier and uglier. To get a glimpse of it, look at the Middle East today. As the United States has withdrawn from its traditional role as the region's power-broker -- maintaining relations with all sides and striving to achieve some degree of stability -- Iran, Turkey and Saudi Arabia are all jockeying for influence. The United States has simply subcontracted its policy to Riyadh, encouraging the Saudis' reckless behavior and resulting in the world's gravest humanitarian crisis, the war in Yemen, where 12 million people are on the verge of famine...."

#1 | Posted by LampLighter at 2018-12-04 01:57 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

At "peak America"?

We passed it and righties are rapidly tugging the sane among us down down doooooooowwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn.

#2 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-04 02:30 AM | Reply

Peak America was 1969.

Every year since has been another step down the ladder thanks to the boomers.

#3 | Posted by 726 at 2018-12-04 07:37 AM | Reply

Dude, it's America. We can have two Peak Americas. I mean, how many have we had in the past? Sure, Trump is president and Evil stands strong, but remember that the goal of Evil isn't to win. We'll be back.

#4 | Posted by HeliumRat at 2018-12-04 03:27 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

We're not near a peak.

We did good in the 50's but we can do that and better when Trump GTFO of office.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2018-12-04 08:03 PM | Reply

USA population in 1950....152.3 million. In 2010...309.3 million. I'm old. to hear people 40 years old talk about how it used to be makes me laugh. it became obvious, i'd cite about 1977/78, that the middle class was under attack. gas prices and variable rate mortgages were the first blatant moves. and it's a steady downhill since then. anecdote..owner/operator over the road truckers. one of the jobs that a person could be profitable if you worked hard even if you didn't have much education. all of a sudden, truckers became "business owners". All you smokey and the bandit fans, that came about because diesel, a by product of gasoline, had always been less than half the price of gas and overnight it caught and the passed gas prices. you have a rig you're making payments on, what'a you do. that's why independents are pretty much gone. I'm glad I'm old. it'd be awfully hard to see what i know is coming.

#6 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-12-04 09:05 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Peak america was in the 90s. Michael Jordan. Guns N Roses. The original Batman movie.

You could still afford healthcare and college.

The supreme court hadn't appointed the 2nd worst president in history yet. We hadn't blown 6 trillion invading iraq and burning down the entire middle east.

We still had some privacy and weren't all obsessed with narcissitic apps on our phones.

Fox news hadn't turned half of america into mindless morons.

Our decline began in 2000.

#7 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-12-04 09:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

To do well the needs of capital and labor must be balanced. There isn't the slightest inkling that either party cares about that. Instead, the war on labor remains at full throttle.

Our method of measuring GDP includes every activity, whether it create new wealth or not. Paper shuffling leaches sit on top of a giant pyramid scheme determined to squeeze the last drop of blood out of those that create new wealth while they snort cocaine or play golf. We are regressing into a medieval economic system with a few super wealthy citizens and millions of people one paycheck away from bankruptcy.

#8 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-12-04 09:12 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3


The war on labor is a shell of its former self. Union membership has plummeted for a reason.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-12-04 09:20 PM | Reply

Union membership has plummeted for a reason.

#9 | Posted by JeffJ

Yeah. Corporations writing "right to work" aka "right to be screwed" laws and bribing politicians to pass them.

And corporate media telling all the morons that unions are bad.

#10 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-12-04 09:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

I'd love to hear the ode of union decline according to lil' jeffy.

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2018-12-04 09:36 PM | Reply

Get real JJ,

The battle front has moved on to teachers and government employee unions, with intense focus on the Post Office, whose finances has been attacked by Republicans by demanding extraordinary pension guarantees, not demanded of any other organization in the country. The war on teachers is about creating non-unionized private schools and cutting funding to public schools while leaving the burden of teaching special needs students in the public sector.

Republicans are scum.

#12 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-12-05 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

You want to see union membership skyrocket?

Repeal minimum wage, 40 hour work-week, child labor laws, worker safety laws, etc.

Unions are in decline because they've successfully seen their agenda codified into law, and that's a good thing.

The irony is it's bad for union membership. They've managed to lobby themselves largely out of relevance.

#13 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-12-05 10:51 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

yes JJ, the reason being the war on labor unions whose many fronts includes the mass media and Taft-Hartley. Its straight out of Marx except Marx was convinced that ultimately a balance between the needs of capitalists and laborers would be achieved. Instead, an inch a day, things just keep getting worse for labor which hasn't had a real victory since the new deal. What next cuts to Social security, because deficits? GMAFB. The war is real.

#14 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-12-05 10:53 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This article is neoliberal trash.

We've pumped ten trillion into the middle east with absolutely nothing to show for it. Staying there is idiotic, and lamenting our shrinking presence in the middle east while simultaneously complaining about our enormous debt is even more idiotic.

#15 | Posted by Ben_Berkkake at 2018-12-05 11:15 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1


Working conditions on all fronts are so vastly ahead of where they were a century ago, which is precisely why unions have been in decline.

If conditions are truly getting worse for labor, an inch at a time, unions will stop their hemorrhaging and will start to grow.

#16 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-12-05 11:21 AM | Reply

Who gets to define 'Peak America'?

#17 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-12-05 11:45 AM | Reply

Another pro-China, "they are the best thing in the world" article that blatantly ignores, and even completely tiptoes around, the truth that China bullies or takes over the economy of anyone small enough for the rest of the world not to care. I like how they try to make it sound so subtle and unproblematic by mentioning they just keep close ties with those countries. No, they don't. They bully them and oppress them. If America did what China did, Mexican immigrants wouldn't be an issue because we would just take over Mexico, every Caribbean nation would be owned by us, and Canada would have been invaded during WW2 because of their proximity to us.

To say that China just sits back quietly and pockets anything is irresponsible journalism that completely marginalizes every nation and group of people they continue to oppress and control. Of course, Liberals are anti-American so they will immediately counter my points with examples of American Imperialism. Luckily, logic is on my side and almost every example you can come up with has no equation to what China does.

#18 | Posted by humtake at 2018-12-05 12:22 PM | Reply

Who gets to define 'Peak America'?

#17 | Posted by MSgt

It's subjective.

Klansmen would say peak america was before the civil war when they could still own black people.
So would a lot of trump supporters.

But I'd say it was back before we let a single terrorist attack turn us into a nation of quivering cowards willing to destroy all our privacy and freedoms and budgets to create a false sense of security.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-12-05 02:09 PM | Reply

#16, yeah sure JJ, you have cause and effect mixed up.

When Walmart meat handlers in Canada voted to unionize, Walmart closed its meat department. The largest private employer in the USA routinely fights all efforts to unionize and fires any organizers or leaders they can identify. That's better than our Colombian friends, who shoot 250 labor leaders every year.

#20 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-12-06 09:48 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Peak America" was located at the tip of the nosecone of a Boeing 767-200ER jet just before it slammed into WTC North Tower at 8:46 AM on September 11, 2001.

#21 | Posted by NerfHerder at 2018-12-06 10:33 AM | Reply

#20 I get that businesses will resist unionization, Viking.

That doesn't negate market forces. Union membership has been in decline in this country for decades. They won most of the battles via legislation and thus demand for what they provide isn't what it used to be.

#22 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-12-06 11:33 AM | Reply

Unions are in decline because they've successfully seen their agenda codified into law, and that's a good thing.

That's part of it. But it's dishonest not to acknowledge that Republican legislation weakening unions also has an effect.

#23 | Posted by JOE at 2018-12-06 11:39 AM | Reply

Right to work laws have definitely had an effect.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-12-06 11:40 AM | Reply

"Every year since has been another step down the ladder thanks to the boomers."

You want to make it generational? It's class war, not generational war. The 1% and the corporations are undermining everything that helps create a stong middle class.

"That doesn't negate market forces. Union membership has been in decline in this country for decades. They won most of the battles via legislation and thus demand for what they provide isn't what it used to be."

But Germany continues to prosper with unions. Unions created our middle class, the slow death of unions is ending our middle class.

#25 | Posted by danni at 2018-12-06 01:26 PM | Reply

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