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Thursday, November 29, 2018

Georgetown University Health Policy Institute: For many years, that rate [of children in the U.S. without health insurance] has been declining thanks to bipartisan efforts to extend coverage through Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP). But in 2017, approximately 276,000 more children became uninsured, leading to a total of 3.9 million uninsured children nationwide. The rate for children age 18 and under went up from 4.7 percent in 2016 to 5 percent in 2017, according to our analysis of U.S. Census Bureau's American Community Survey data. While this may not seem like a huge change, both of these increases are unprecedented in the past decade. Even more troubling, the number of uninsured children increased during a time of economic strength -- in fact, at a time when one would expect the uninsured rate to go down, as more children were covered by employer-sponsored insurance in 2017.

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According to the researchers:: I've written this report for eight years in a row now, and I found it even more notable that no state, except for the District of Columbia, saw any measurable progress in reducing the number of uninsured children in 2017. Never before have we seen such uniformity in state behavior. This finding underscores that even states with the best of intentions were not able to overcome the negative national currents that are affecting children's health coverage.

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This is exactly what republicants want.

#1 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-11-29 07:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We should definitely penalize them with taxes and until they buy insurance.

#2 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-11-29 07:23 AM | Reply

Medicare for all is the answer

#3 | Posted by PunchyPossum at 2018-11-29 07:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sounds like a parent problem.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 07:31 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

We're the richest country in the world, and we can't solve this problem?

If Republicans had worked with Obama instead of obstructing when the Affordable Care Act was written, this would've been an easy fix for decades on end.

#5 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-29 07:37 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sounds like a parent problem.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 07:31 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive | Funny: 1

Oh look, the love of Jesus just showed up.

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-29 07:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Whenever our country fails its people, blame it on "personal responsibility" and carry on.

#7 | Posted by hamburglar at 2018-11-29 07:58 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

Boaz reveals who he really is.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-29 08:07 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Boaz reveals who he really is.

Personal responsibility in this nation is an issue, though? No?

I've told you idiots, I might even be on board for single payer. But I say, make that particular tax even for EVERYONE. One tax rate, say 5% of what you make should be taken from everyone, without regard for how it affects the taxpayer. Everyone should feel that tax. No deductions. Period.

Then lets have single payer. Any other way is a non starter.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:13 AM | Reply

Whenever our country fails its people

The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people.

The "people" need to take care of themselves.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:14 AM | Reply

Ok boys and girls. Lets count how many times boaz is attacked in this thread instead of a liberal making a counter argument about the thread..

Ready? LETS GO!

#11 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:15 AM | Reply

I've told you idiots

I shouldnt have called you idiots. I apologize. Not a good way to start a debate.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:16 AM | Reply

also, I'm on the road, so it may take me a moment to get back to make a comment.

#13 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:18 AM | Reply

" Lets count how many times boaz is attacked in this thread instead of a liberal making a counter argument about the thread.."

Republicans have done quite a few things to make Obamacare more expensive and less beneficial, that's simply a fact. They have undermined it in countless ways without regard for the effects that will have on the people of this nation, especially lower income people. So, we eventually have to ask, what is their motive? It isn't economics. It isn't overregulation, remember Mitt Romney did it first in Massachussetts. It is quite probable that the only reason they have fought the ACA so long and so hard is because of the man who proposed it. And why do they oppose it still so vehemently, even though the majority of Americans do not, is because they simply could not tolerate the fact that Barrack Obama, a black man with a foreign sounding name, could revolutionize healthcare while Republicans could only try to prevent a good thing from happening for millions of Americans. There are many people alive today only because of Obamacare, of course though, Republicans don't care about those people. I might add, Republicans are not my favorite people, most of them are stupid and the one's who aren't are just selfish and mean. Boaz is the former.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-29 08:26 AM | Reply

This is hilarious. There is nothing more fun than seeing society crumble and people on both sides refusing to accept responsibility for their part in it.

But the most fun of all is seeing those same people carry their ignorant opinions to the extreme and digging in their heels.

Meanwhile, the actual criminals are dancing in ill-gotten profit, because no one will call them out. FUN FUN FUN!!!!!

#15 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-11-29 08:44 AM | Reply

Ok boys and girls. Lets count how many times boaz is attacked in this thread instead of a liberal making a counter argument about the thread..
Ready? LETS GO!

#11 | POSTED BY BOAZ AT 2018-11-29 08:15 AM | REPLY | FLAG:

Troll gonna troll. At the end, you'll just say something about how nobody's gunna change your opinion.

#16 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-29 09:00 AM | Reply

So many ways to chip away at the excuses for the problems associated with health care and none of them address the actual problems.

Other countries have figured it out. They have also figured out that the medicine is almost as bad as the disease.

These other countries did not have the one thing that prevents America from understanding the problem (that is to say 'did not have that one thing in such an advanced state'). Notice I didn't say, 'fixing the problem', because they haven't fixed it completely either. So, what is the problem and what is the answer? You're not gonna like it. Jesus, Mohammed, the Buddha all preached about it and no one listened or cared. Why should they listen to someone who is not a holy man?

America, and every other country will crumble to dust before this problem is fixed. Why, because it has to do with individual profit in a matrix that needs to ignore 1)individuals and 2)profit.

#17 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-11-29 09:07 AM | Reply

#17 Yes!

Health care doesn't fit the rules of econ 101 lecture 1,slide 1. It's a whole different game.

#18 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-29 09:18 AM | Reply

I live in Oklahoma now, #48 in the country for number of insured kids. 83,000 uninsured children in Oklahoma. A recent news story reported that residents of Stillwater, OK have a lower life expectancy than some African countries. At the same time, tax revenue for the state is rising thanks to good times in the energy business, so tax cuts are being talked about, ignoring the healthcare and education crises in this state.

There seems no way the locals (of which I am now one) want to show their love for children by making them healthier and better educated...

#19 | Posted by catdog at 2018-11-29 09:18 AM | Reply

"Ok boys and girls. Lets count how many times boaz is attacked in this thread instead of a liberal making a counter argument about the thread..
Ready? LETS GO!"

I've attacked him once already today but I'm just getting started. His posts demand it.

#20 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-29 09:28 AM | Reply

'They are Man's,' said the Spirit, looking down upon
them. 'And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers.
This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware them both,
and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy,
for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the
writing be erased. Deny it.' cried the Spirit, stretching out
its hand towards the city. 'Slander those who tell it ye.
Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse.
And abide the end.'

'Have they no refuge or resource.' cried Scrooge.

'Are there no prisons.' said the Spirit, turning on him
for the last time with his own words. 'Are there no workhouses.'"
- A Christmas Carol

#21 | Posted by ABlock at 2018-11-29 09:40 AM | Reply

Another article by Georgetown:

Last fall we wrote an issue brief about children's health coverage in Florida. Florida's child uninsured rate has reached a new low of 6.2% – although the state still lags behind the national average of 4.5% and has one of the highest uninsured rates in the South. This progress is the result of years of national and state efforts to cover children through Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program (Healthy Kids in Florida) as well as, more recently, the enactment of the Affordable Care Act.

ccf.georgetown.edu

#22 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-11-29 09:45 AM | Reply

I've told you idiots

I shouldnt have called you idiots. I apologize. Not a good way to start a debate.

#12 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:16 AMFlag: (Choose)FunnyNewsworthyOffensiveAbusive

and a -1 for how many times you got "attacked".

#23 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-29 09:52 AM | Reply

The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people.

The "people" need to take care of themselves.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:14 AM |

That may be the single stupidest comment ever posted on DR

The very idea of a country is that we are not just a group of individuals who happen to live near each other but we are a united whole. Every man for himself is the antithesis of patriotism and unity

#24 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-29 10:00 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

You'll get NOTHING...until you throw their tea in the harbour.

#25 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2018-11-29 10:11 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"Every man for himself is the antithesis of patriotism and unity"

And it is the recipe for disaster when you are afflicted with a major illness.

#26 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-29 10:13 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"This progress is the result of years of national and state efforts to cover children through Medicaid and the Children's Health Insurance Program (Healthy Kids in Florida) as well as, more recently, the enactment of the Affordable Care Act."

The state did virtually nothing to help get Medicaid or any other coverage for children. The State of Florida refused Medicaid expansion, and lets not revert now to using the term Affordable Care Act today because of the fact that most Americans do now support Obamacare.

#27 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-29 10:17 AM | Reply

Winning!

#28 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-29 10:24 AM | Reply

The "people" need to take care of themselves.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:14 AM | Reply

They're people without scare quotes, BOAZ.

Independence and self-reliance are absolutely valuable, necessary things.

Be sure to tell cancer you have them.

#29 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-29 10:26 AM | Reply

Trumpcare.

#30 | Posted by fresno500 at 2018-11-29 10:26 AM | Reply

I might even be on board for single payer. But I say, make that particular tax even for EVERYONE. One tax rate, say 5% of what you make should be taken from everyone, without regard for how it affects the taxpayer. Everyone should feel that tax. No deductions. Period.

Despite how regressive a flat tax is, I'd be on board with this if it were only 5%. The problem is that it would likely take more than that to get it done. Americans already spend $3.3 trillion a year on healthcare, and i think our entire GDP is only like 20 trillion.

#31 | Posted by JOE at 2018-11-29 10:27 AM | Reply

A society that is indifferent to the death of its members is a society that has broken a social contract. Why give loyalty to something that cares that little about you? Why not find, or make, something else?

#32 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-29 10:28 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

All this was so much easier for the DR know-it-alls when they could just blame OBAMA and his imaginary Death Panels, for everything

#33 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-11-29 10:30 AM | Reply

#32 Very good logic.

#34 | Posted by fresno500 at 2018-11-29 10:35 AM | Reply

"The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people. The "people" need to take care of themselves." - #10 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:14 AM

Does "people" include the business of veterans being supported by receiving VA benefits from the "country"?

Or should veterans take care of themselves?

#35 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-29 10:46 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#27 It's a Georgetown brief. It says very clearly Florida uninsured children rates are dropping, they quoted the reasons, not me. Their words not mine. I'm now convinced you either have a reading comprehension problem or dyslexia.

#36 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-11-29 10:58 AM | Reply

""The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people."

Then why have a country at all? Why not live in caves and just fend for ourselves? You can still go live that way for for the rest of us the nation needs to support people, educate people, protect people. It's called civilization, you may not want it but your family does and one day they will tell you how full of crap you are.

""The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people."

My reading ability is fine Gracie but I also have a comprehension ability which you seem not to have. What is really going on is efforts by the federal government are helping while the state of Florida basically doesn't care if the kids of the state get healthcare or not.

#37 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-29 11:38 AM | Reply

Then move out of Florida. Go to a state that takes care of you from cradle to grave.

#38 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Btw Danni that's how our nation is designed. You know 50 separate states but equal.

#39 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 12:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people.

The "people" need to take care of themselves.

#10 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-29 08:14 AM | Reply

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

#40 | Posted by SunTzuMeow at 2018-11-29 01:03 PM | Reply

Go to a state that takes care of you from cradle to grave.

#38 | POSTED BY BOAZ

says the guy who cashes a socialistic paycheck every month.....

this is the thing with winnuts. they are okay with socialism as long as it goes to wingnuts.

#41 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-11-29 01:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Sounds like a parent problem.

#4 | Posted by boaz

Why, do they have different parents than they had 10 years ago?

The only thing that's changed is the party in power.

#42 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-11-29 01:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

"Go to a state that takes care of you from cradle to grave.
#38 | POSTED BY BOAZ"

That's what you do.
The VA operates in all 57 states.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-29 01:06 PM | Reply | Funny: 5

Sounds like a parent problem.

#4 | Posted by boaz

You won't fault the GOP for anything until it's directly affecting your life.

Which isn't a good indicator of your character.

#44 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-29 01:28 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Are we tired of all the 'winning' yet?

OCU

#45 | Posted by OCUser at 2018-11-29 01:36 PM | Reply

"You won't fault the GOP for anything until it's directly affecting your life. Which isn't a good indicator of your character."

That's actually an excellent indicator of his character.

#46 | Posted by Hagbard_Celine at 2018-11-29 01:44 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people.
The "people" need to take care of themselves.

Says the guy with a government paycheck, gpvernment pension and government healthcare.

Go ---- yourself, grifter.

#47 | Posted by JOE at 2018-11-29 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 9

You won't fault the GOP for anything until it's directly affecting your life.
#44

Core conservative philosophy:

Doesn't directly have a negative affect on you, your spouse, or your two darling sons >>> don't care*

Does negatively affect any of the above >>> shoot it

*mocking the affected optional, but encouraged.

#48 | Posted by schifferbrains at 2018-11-29 02:43 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

We should definitely penalize them with taxes and until they buy insurance.

#2 | POSTED BY SITZKRIEG

Yes.

If parents can afford insurance but don't get it for their kids, they should be penalized.
If parents can't afford insurance, they get huge tax subsidies to make it affordable or even free. So again penalize them if they don't get it.

Why penalize? Because I get insurance. I pay for it. And when some idiot or their kid without insurance gets hurt and doesn't pay the medical bills, I get stuck paying for them.

Why do you like free riders, Sitz? Is that the same reason you love Trump?

#49 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-29 02:45 PM | Reply

"The "people" need to take care of themselves."

Good idea, lets abolish the Department of Defense and every police force.

#50 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-29 02:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people.
The "people" need to take care of themselves.
#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

People in Texas and Florida say that all the time...

Until the hurricanes hit.

#51 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-29 03:49 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

The "country" shouldnt be in the business of supporting people.
The "people" need to take care of themselves.
#10 | POSTED BY BOAZ

40 "The King will reply, 'Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.' 41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

OUCHIE WAWA.

#52 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-29 04:12 PM | Reply

"The "people" need to take care of themselves."
Good idea, lets abolish the Department of Defense and every police force.

#50 | POSTED BY SNOOFY AT 2018-11-29 02:50 PM | REPLY |

Since corporations are people too lets stop enforcing contract law in our courts and take away the gun manufacturers governement protection from lawsuits

#53 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-29 04:33 PM | Reply

I get stuck paying for them.

#49 | POSTED BY SYCOPHANT AT 2018-11-29 02:45 PM | REPLY

Yes, you do. It's what you want, enjoy it.

#54 | Posted by sitzkrieg at 2018-11-29 05:35 PM | Reply

Having CHIP allowed me to put my money and focus on other things for my son, like education, sports gear, music lessons, etc.
Now he's a college graduate with a good job. Wothout CHIP, probably not.
I call that a good investment by the Government of the "people".

#55 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2018-11-30 07:24 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

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