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Monday, November 12, 2018

In anticipation of the Honduran migrant caravan crossing the U.S.-Mexico border, President Donald Trump ordered 5,200 troops to the border. But now that the troops have been deployed, they may find themselves with very little to do, according to officials familiar with the plans.

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The operation, renamed this week from "Operation Faithful Patriot" to "border support," will cost at minimum $200 million, estimates say, and the number of troops involved could rise to as many as 15,000, according to figures Trump has floated.

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A final cost estimate of the deployment has not been made available. But Defense Department budget officials fret that if the number of troops sent to the border does reach 15,000, the price tag could hit $200 million, with no specific budget allocation from which to draw. The 5,600 American troops who rushed to the brown, dry scrub along the southwest border are still going through the motions of an elaborate mission that appeared to be set into action by a commander in chief determined to get his supporters to the polls, and a Pentagon leadership unable to convince him of its perils. The troops do not receive extra combat pay. Nor is there hostile fire pay, since the troops will not be interacting with the migrants.

"When you give a soldier a real mission, you have less of a morale problem, even if it's Christmas or Thanksgiving," said Representative Anthony G. Brown, Democrat of Maryland and a former Army helicopter pilot who served in the Iraq war. "But when you send a soldier on a dubious mission, with no military value, over Thanksgiving, it doesn't help morale at all."

From the proud son of a Tuskegee Airman pilot, Happy Veterans Day to all of America's military members past and present for your service and sacrifice.

I'm sure many feel that today's troops deserve much better consideration from their CIC than some are currently receiving.

#1 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-12 07:18 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

No ----.

This whole ISIS CARAVAN story was nothing more than -------- designed to scare the ---- out of the dumbest voters in 'MURICA (Eff YEAH!). Haven't heard ---- about it since the election.

You got played again by the GOP you morons.

#2 | Posted by 726 at 2018-11-12 07:19 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

Sorry, Bruce already has this thread on the front page.

#3 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-12 02:14 PM | Reply

Tell the caravaners to slow down. Enjoy the walk. Stop and smell the roses. Take your time. Get to the border just before Easter. Trumpers will have forgotten them by then, and the Army will have been re-assigned to something more befitting the best fighting force in the world...

#4 | Posted by catdog at 2018-11-12 05:26 PM | Reply

So these guys and gals will be spending Thanksgiving and Xmas in tents eating out of a box, while their wives, husbands and kids lose a year of Holidays with Dad or Mom. All so that Trump can frighten his stupid base about the 'invasion' of desperate refugees, who are walking a thousand miles to America, asking for asylum?

Have I got that about right?

#5 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-11-12 07:17 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 6

Have I got that about right?

Only if you're trying to realistically assess the situation.

Which. I doubt Trumpublicans are.

#6 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-12 07:22 PM | Reply

So these guys and gals will be spending Thanksgiving and Xmas in tents eating out of a box...

Interesting tidbit from one of the articles was the fact that there's a popular burger joint 6 miles from one of the "bases" but the "troops" are not allowed to go there.

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-12 07:25 PM | Reply

Cheaper than sending them overseas. HA! some are pist the pay is only a tenth here, oh you mean nobody told them hahahahaaaa!

That's alright they're the weekend warriors on another of their multiple all paid vacations, NOT REAL ! SOLDIERS even ask one they'll admit it with a shrug. HA! why do you hear of Helicopter crashing into other Helicopters, that's right doctors and lawyers at playtime. Do you think the real soldiers and pilots ... the LIFETIME ONES WOULD CRASH A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR UNIT!??!?!?! not likely. JUst ask any of them in the states, they're part timer weekend warriors not the legit solders.

Again, those weekender soldiers are board out of thier gourd and its better than playing war games in the dessert. They are on vacation leave them alone. For half if not more its better than being at home with all the do honey this do honey that and neverENDING FAVORS! just ask one, they'll shrug and tell you the very same thing. OKay bye-bye-now just my two bits and I`m sticking to it !

#8 | Posted by mw6789MW at 2018-11-12 10:26 PM | Reply

The 5,600 troops which have already been deployed, and the potential of nearly 9,000 more, are NOT so-called "weekend worriers". These are REGULAR ARMY troops, NOT national guard nor reservists. These are the troops who would normally be, on 24-hour notice, ready to deploy anywhere in the world that they were needed to defend our nation. Their current deployment is an insult to their honor and training, being used as a political prop by someone who has no respect whatsoever for the military or what it means to put your nation's welfare ahead of your own.

OCU

#9 | Posted by OCUser at 2018-11-13 12:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

Are we supposed to grant them all asylum? Is that what you are advocating? Do we just have border patrol stand their guns drawn and ask them to turn around?

#10 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-13 06:59 AM | Reply

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Cheaper than sending them overseas. HA! some are pist the pay is only a tenth here, oh you mean nobody told them hahahahaaaa!
That's alright they're the weekend warriors on another of their multiple all paid vacations, NOT REAL ! SOLDIERS even ask one they'll admit it with a shrug. HA! why do you hear of Helicopter crashing into other Helicopters, that's right doctors and lawyers at playtime. Do you think the real soldiers and pilots ... the LIFETIME ONES WOULD CRASH A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR UNIT!??!?!?! not likely. JUst ask any of them in the states, they're part timer weekend warriors not the legit solders.
Again, those weekender soldiers are board out of thier gourd and its better than playing war games in the dessert. They are on vacation leave them alone. For half if not more its better than being at home with all the do honey this do honey that and neverENDING FAVORS! just ask one, they'll shrug and tell you the very same thing. OKay bye-bye-now just my two bits and I`m sticking to it !

#8 | POSTED BY MW6789MW

Is that you BL2?

I am not one to address grammar but it was a struggle to read that.

#11 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-13 07:02 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Stand with their guns drawn

#12 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-13 07:03 AM | Reply

Michelle Obama said she'll never forgive Trump for deliberately lying about Barrack's birth certificate. Trump responded by saying he'll never forgive what Obama for what he did to our military, and he hugged the flag once and insulted and threatened Colin Kaepernick for refusing to stand for the national anthem. That hideous electoral anomaly flew to Paris but never left his hotel room to honor US WWII troops and took veterans day off without bothering to honor those that fought and died since WWII. Our hideous electoral anomaly is too lazy to take an hour from his memorial day and honor the 5600 troops who are going to miss Christmas because he wants to put on an expensive show on the Southern border for purely political reasons against an imaginary threat.

#13 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-11-13 09:51 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"#8 | POSTED BY MW6789MW"

Those National Guard troops fight and die in our overseas wars yet you feel compelled to insult them. Nice.

#14 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-13 10:02 AM | Reply

Cheaper than sending them overseas.

It's even cheaper to not send them at all, especially since doing so was an obvious political stunt. But i wouldn't expect "conservatives" to actually care about wasting government resources.

#15 | Posted by JOE at 2018-11-13 10:10 AM | Reply

"Are we supposed to grant them all asylum?"

No. You process them as usual and grant asylum to those that are eligible.

Like we have always done.

If Humpy is allowed to take advantage of American bankruptcy law to enrich himself and his family then refugees should also be allowed to use American law to better themselves and their families. If you don't like the law change it.

#16 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-13 10:26 AM | Reply

"That's alright they're the weekend warriors on another of their multiple all paid vacations, NOT REAL ! SOLDIERS even ask one they'll admit it with a shrug. "

That's alright. You are another Teapublican Bo Norhing. Damn there are are lot of you!

Humpy sent active duty troopsto fight a fake invasion of poor helpless refugees.

How embarrassing it must be to be so gullible as to believe Faux News and Humpy's lies.

#17 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-13 10:32 AM | Reply

Teapublican No Nothing!

Do Nothing (but lie)

#18 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-13 10:34 AM | Reply

The question shouldn't be "does the US have to grant them all asylum".

The real question is why would anyone walk 2100 miles with no plan for how to eat, drink or cross any border? And the answer is, They fear for their lives. The root cause for that fear is that the USA has so devastated their country with military coups and drug trafficking that to stay is certain death.

But an interesting twist to the story is that Mexico is now offering many of them asylum and a job, which most are declining. Wow. I wonder if that has anything to do with the fact that 20,000 people a year are murdered in Mexico. That more than the 17,000 murders a year in the USA (2017) with 40% of the population of the USA and less blatant corruption in the USA.

#19 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-11-13 11:34 AM | Reply

Are we supposed to grant them all asylum? Is that what you are advocating? Do we just have border patrol stand their guns drawn and ask them to turn around?

#10 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-13 06:59 AM | Reply

Yes we grant them asylum. They worked so hard to get here. BTW We OWE them for how we have treated the places where they come from.

#20 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-13 11:41 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

--Yes we grant them asylum.

Job hunting is not a legitimate ground for asylum anywhere in the world.

#21 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-13 11:47 AM | Reply

#21 You're right, and anyone asserting that as a basis at our border will be turned away. So what are you afraid of?

#22 | Posted by JOE at 2018-11-13 11:58 AM | Reply

Job hunting is not a legitimate ground for asylum anywhere in the world.

Dulli. If every nonwhite person was deported from America. You'd still be unemployed.

Look up the word asylum. Then research why these people would need to seek it.

Also. Get a real education instead of playing a pseudo intellectual on the DR. That way, you won't come off seeming so stupid.

#23 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-13 12:04 PM | Reply

So what are you afraid of?

Based on his posts ever since Donnie became President.

Nulli is terrified of immigrants and Antifa.

#24 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-13 12:07 PM | Reply

-- anyone asserting that as a basis at our border will be turned away

Anyone asserting that will not have been coached by the army of activists and immigration lawyers that will meet them at the border, if not earlier.

#25 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-13 12:08 PM | Reply

Anyone asserting that will not have been coached by the army of activists and immigration lawyers that will meet them at the border, if not earlier.
#25 | POSTED BY CONSPIRACIFIDIAN

Wow, active imagination.

How many times a day does the threat of immigrants cause you to change your depends?

#26 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-13 12:12 PM | Reply

Job hunting is not a legitimate ground for asylum anywhere in the world.

#21 | Posted by nullifidian

That is a true statement. And asylum seekers are stringently vetted. So it has nothing to do with actual Asylum seekers.

Now address the actual refugees who have legitimate fear for their lives. Why is Humpy trying to change the Constitution? What makes you and him think that is suddenly ok for Humpy but it was a "power grab" to HURT people when Obama tried to do it to HELP people?

INtereting that the 2nd amendment is sacrosanct yet the 14th is optional because Humpy disagrees with it?

Republicans are such unbelievable hypocritical morons. (oops! I guess I just reelected Humpy!)

#27 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-13 01:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Again, those weekender soldiers are board out of thier gourd and its better than playing war games in the dessert. They are on vacation leave them alone. For half if not more its better than being at home with all the do honey this do honey that and neverENDING FAVORS! just ask one, they'll shrug and tell you the very same thing. OKay bye-bye-now just my two bits and I`m sticking to it !

#8 | Posted by mw6789MW

Wrong again mw

Oct. 29, 2018

Leer en español

WASHINGTON -- More than 5,000 active-duty military troops will deploy to the southern border by the end of this week, Defense Department officials said on Monday, an escalation of a midterm election show of force against a caravan of Central American migrants that President Trump has characterized as an "invasion of our country."

#28 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 01:37 PM | Reply

#8 | Posted by mw6789MW | #28 | Posted by 43 PLONKS! at 2018-11-13 01:37 PM

Looks like snippy has a new BFF.

#29 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-13 01:39 PM | Reply

#8 | Posted by mw6789MW

Wrong again mw

#28 | Posted by Sniper

Well, he IS one of yours so...

#30 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-13 03:53 PM | Reply

#8 | Posted by mw6789MW | #28 | Posted by 43 PLONKS! at 2018-11-13 01:37 PM

Looks like snippy has a new BFF.

#29 | Posted by Hans

It looks like you have NO new material at all.

#31 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 04:14 PM | Reply

Again, those weekender soldiers are board out of thier gourd and its better than playing war games in the dessert. They are on vacation leave them alone. For half if not more its better than being at home with all the do honey this do honey that and neverENDING FAVORS! just ask one, they'll shrug and tell you the very same thing. OKay bye-bye-now just my two bits and I`m sticking to it !
#8 | Posted by mw6789MW
Wrong again mw
Oct. 29, 2018
Leer en español
WASHINGTON -- More than 5,000 active-duty military troops will deploy to the southern border by the end of this week, Defense Department officials said on Monday, an escalation of a midterm election show of force against a caravan of Central American migrants that President Trump has characterized as an "invasion of our country."

#28 | POSTED BY SNIPER

Caravan has gone from 7,000 to 5,000.
Caravan is still 1,000 miles away.
Caravan is moving 20 to 30 miles per day.
Caravan is surrounded by reporters.
Caravan is planning to head to a check point and apply for asylum.

So...what are the soldiers doing, genius?

#32 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-13 05:06 PM | Reply

5 million central americans want to come to America.

"The several thousand Central American asylum seekers and migrants who are slowly making their way toward the U.S. border may be unusual because of the size of their group, but their desire to come to the U.S. is not. They actually represent a relatively small fragment of a much larger group of people in their own region -- and around the world -- who say they would like to move to the U.S. if they could."

Three percent of the world's adults -- or nearly 160 million people -- say they would like to move to the U.S. This includes 16% of adults from Honduras, Nicaragua, Guatemala, El Salvador, Panama and Costa Rica, which translates into nearly 5 million people.

news.gallup.com

Let them all in.
--Clownshack/Hatter/?/

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-13 11:12 PM | Reply

"Let them all in."

How many of those five million have the scratch to get here and make ends meet until they land a job?

But, for those that do, now would seem like the right time, with unemployment so low.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-13 11:33 PM | Reply

Nulli Strawman --------.

#35 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-14 08:23 AM | Reply

Nulli Strawman --------.

#35 | Posted by BruceBanner

You want to join the list of Advocates For Unlimited Migration."

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-14 10:57 AM | Reply

"You want to join the list of Advocates For Unlimited Migration." - #36 | Posted by nulli"Geology is not geography"fidian at 2018-11-14 10:57 AM

When all else fails, make something up.

#37 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-14 11:01 AM | Reply

"When all else fails, make something up.''

It seems like the last bullet in the chamber: claim all Dems want 100% open borders, and Antifa as the welcoming crew.

#38 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-14 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--claim all Dems want 100% open borders,

Enough straw there to burn down Malibu.

#39 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-14 11:29 AM | Reply

"Enough straw there to burn down Malibu."

Fat talk from the idiot who owns the straw franchise. Wasn't it only yesterday you had to pretend I support Antifa?

#40 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-14 11:43 AM | Reply

"cost at minimum $200 million"

That's only tax payers' dollars. It's not like GOP donors have to pay for the failed effort to fearmonger control of the House to stay in GOP hands.

What, Donald worry?

Not happenin'.

#41 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-14 11:47 AM | Reply

Let them all in.
--Clownshack/Hatter/?/

#33 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN

Everyone,

Please forgive, Nulli. Without a fully functional brain, he's dumb enough to believe Democrats actually want to let them all in.

He's also lashing out after the ass whooping of a midterm election. Poor little brain damaged, Conservative...

#42 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-14 12:10 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

TIJUANA, Mexico -- The front line of what U.S. President Donald Trump calls a migrant "invasion" has arrived at the U.S. border – dozens of lesbian, gay and transsexual asylum seekers from Central America.

The group has taken up shelter in a rented home in Tijuana, where they played Ariana Grande music Monday night as they sorted through donated clothes, drank strawberry-banana juice and discussed how the asylum process might play out.

National Post

Quick, send another 5,000 troops to California! That barbed wire ain't gonna roll out itself!

#43 | Posted by Derek_Wildstar at 2018-11-14 02:32 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Deployed troops with nothing to do? Sounds like the army

Hurry up and wait.

#44 | Posted by 101Chairborne at 2018-11-14 02:39 PM | Reply

You want to join the list of Advocates For Unlimited Migration."

#36 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-11-14 10:57 AM | FLAG:

The one in your imagination? It certainly doesn't exist here.

#45 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-14 03:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Advocates For Unlimited Migration... A Trump Meme LLC, Dullifidian, Dir.

#46 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-14 05:01 PM | Reply

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