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Sunday, November 11, 2018

After years of low, low prices, fed by near-zero interest rates in a convalescing economy, Americans are waking up to costlier consumer living. Everyday household staples like diapers, toothpaste, shampoo and dishwashing liquid -- not to mention soft drinks, cookies, chocolate, cat litter and autos -- have all started getting more expensive, a trend expected to continue early next year.

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Suplies!

This is what happens when you let manufacturing move overseas.

#1 | Posted by Tor at 2018-11-11 05:47 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Rising prices? How'd that happen?

#2 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-11 07:02 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

What the deuce!?
Trumpers have told us for two years that rising stock market + rising oil prices + tariffs = zero inflation!

#3 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-11-11 10:46 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 8

Rising prices? How'd that happen?

#2 | POSTED BY ZED AT 2018-11-11 07:02 PM | REPLY: You must believe that prices, like the environment will/must remain static. Actually, the only constant in life is change.

#3 | POSTED BY E1G1 AT 2018-11-11 10:46 PM | REPLY | FLAG: Good try, but how about you factor in the Fed as well if you want to play that game.

#4 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-11-11 11:36 PM | Reply

"You must believe that prices, like the environment will/must remain static."

Simple yes or no question: do you believe increased tariffs increase prices?

#5 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-11 11:38 PM | Reply

#3 the stock market is a predictor, not a cause. Oil prices are based on supply and demand.
What is driving prices is still low interest rates, massive deficit spending, full employment and tariffs.

The Fed has no choice but to raise rates to counter the impact of the last three on inflation.

#6 | Posted by bored at 2018-11-12 02:37 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

In Trumpterd world....

Income tax increases increase prices.

Income tax cuts do not cut prices.

Tariffs have no effect on prices.

#7 | Posted by 726 at 2018-11-12 07:02 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

So much WINNING.

#8 | Posted by 726 at 2018-11-12 07:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

This is a given in a growing economy.

As long as wages keep pace it's NBD. Currently it looks like they will keep pace but that has not been the trend for the past 40 years so watch out when wages start to flag and prices keep rising.

#9 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-11-12 07:17 AM | Reply

Gee, seems the impression I got from shopping for groceries at Publix was correct. Where are those folks who made such a big deal over my little comment that it seemed to me that prices were rising?

#10 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-12 08:04 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

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#10 | POSTED BY DANNI

I'll say it again $5+ cornflakes ..$4+ milk/gal..$2+ soup and i'm on the state line so i can quote these prices from ft. scott kansas or butler missouri.
gas $2.80 ks..$2.70 mo.

#11 | Posted by 1947steamer at 2018-11-12 08:14 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#9 | Posted by TaoWarrior

Well I have been steadily losing ground to inflation for years. Time to find a different job I guess.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-11-12 08:41 AM | Reply

#10 I won't hijack this this thread with all the links you were given on the Nooner proving your posts wrong. If you choose to shop at one store that has huge mark ups for their profit that's on you and no one else. Wal Mart, K Mart, Amazon and others offer the very same Wheaties (the only example you gave as an ALARMING price increase) at much lower prices, a few almost 40% less expensive than Publix.

FYI Gas in JAX this morning is down to $2.35 a gallon from $2.69 a week and a half ago. The unemployment rate in JAX is just 3%. The state of Florida unemployment as of September was just 3.9%. My Florida State Retirement fund last quarter made almost $5000.

Can't argue that reality.Life is good.

#13 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-11-12 09:36 AM | Reply

Can't argue that reality.Life is good.

#13 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-

What's mean income in Florida, per capita?

#14 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-12 09:39 AM | Reply

So, you mean to tell me that over time, costs rise? There is nothing in this article that is out of the ordinary, so why does anyone try to make any conclusion from this? Oh yeah, partisan hate.

#15 | Posted by humtake at 2018-11-12 11:43 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"So, you mean to tell me that over time, costs rise?"

Simple yes or no question: Do you believe a rise in tariffs cause a rise in prices?

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-12 11:44 AM | Reply

#14
Florida is $50,860 up this YTD +1.62%.

From a post peak low of $47,083 in 2012, real median household income for Florida has now grown by $3,777 (8.02%).

Historical Real Medium Family Income in Florida:
2016 $71,062 $61,289
2015 $69,122 $60,089
2014 $66,820 $58,002
2013 $65,977 $57,470
2012 $65,363 $57,262
2011 $65,564 $57,566

Here is the link to the Florida Poverty Level (PTL) For a family of three it's $20,780 for a family of 3. www.healthcare.gov

#17 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-11-12 12:29 PM | Reply

"Here is the link to the Florida Poverty Level (PTL) For a family of three it's $20,780"

Interesting. Where I live in Texas that's not far from median income.

#18 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-12 12:35 PM | Reply

So, you mean to tell me that over time, costs rise?

#15 | Posted by humtake at 2018-11

This has to be a talking point.

#19 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-12 12:36 PM | Reply

Tariffs were never going to mean lower prices.

#20 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-12 12:37 PM | Reply

"Tariffs were never going to mean lower prices."

Except with Republican Math™.

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-12 12:42 PM | Reply | Funny: 4

#18 Move to Florida.

#22 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-11-12 01:13 PM | Reply

From a post peak low of $47,083 in 2012, real median household income for Florida has now grown by $3,777 (8.02%).

#17 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED

That's below inflation...

#23 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-12 01:25 PM | Reply

#18 Move to Florida.

#22 | Posted by gracieamazed

There's nothing magic in Florida. Nothing magic in Texas, either. If you're on the wrong end of a certain divide, life is rough.

#24 | Posted by Zed at 2018-11-12 01:33 PM | Reply

Do you believe a rise in tariffs cause a rise in prices?

#16 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

Um, as you are so wont to point out - math.

#25 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-12 01:37 PM | Reply

"Um, as you are so wont to point out - math."

Okay.

So is DJT causing prices to rise because of his tariffs and trade wars, or not?

#26 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-12 01:41 PM | Reply

--#18 Move to Florida.

Are you kidding? Even Moonbeam's California is less crazy than that state.

#27 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-12 01:42 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#27 Florida home of RCADE, Gracie and Danni. :-)

#28 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-11-12 02:17 PM | Reply

#27 Florida home of RCADE, Gracie and Danni. :-)

POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED AT 2018-11-12 02:17 PM | REPLY

And somebody that loves muffin recipes.

#29 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-12 02:18 PM | Reply

#29??

#30 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-11-12 02:35 PM | Reply

#29??

#30 | POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED AT 2018-11-12 02:35 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

During the early years of the Retort there was a poster that went by the handle Niceville that loved to post muffin recipes. He was from Florida as well.

#31 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-12 02:38 PM | Reply

When I began here I was accused on being Nancy (Or was it Nanci). I thought she was from Niceville??

#32 | Posted by gracieamazed at 2018-11-12 02:46 PM | Reply

When I began here I was accused on being Nancy (Or was it Nanci). I thought she was from Niceville??

POSTED BY GRACIEAMAZED AT 2018-11-12 02:46 PM | REPLY

Nanc was her handle.

#33 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-12 02:47 PM | Reply

So is DJT causing prices to rise because of his tariffs and trade wars, or not?

#26 | POSTED BY DANFORTH

I answered with "math". So, how do you interpret that as it pertains to your yes/no question?

#34 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-12 02:56 PM | Reply

"I answered with "math".

Yeah, about that.

You probably shouldn't be using words if you don't know what they mean.

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-12 03:00 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

So is DJT causing prices to rise because of his tariffs and trade wars, or not?
#26 | POSTED BY DANFORTH
I answered with "math". So, how do you interpret that as it pertains to your yes/no question?
#34 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

As a yes, Tariffs cause price increases. That WOULD be basic Math.

#36 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-12 03:38 PM | Reply

So, how do you interpret that as it pertains to your yes/no question?

I interpret it as you avoiding the question.

#37 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-12 03:44 PM | Reply

Danforth,

See Sycophant's response. That is exactly what I was saying with my answer.

#38 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-12 04:55 PM | Reply

"From a post peak low of $47,083 in 2012, real median household income for Florida has now grown by $3,777 (8.02%)."

Inflation over that time was 10%, so they're behind.

That is so depressing to say.

#39 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-12 05:55 PM | Reply

"I thought she was from Niceville??"

Who was that other crazy from Niceville? Probably the most crazy person who ever posted here. I believe he actually stalked another poster. Or, did he post as Niceville? My memory is rusty. Anyone remember him?

#40 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-13 08:13 AM | Reply

I remember the name, TADOWE.

#41 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-13 08:19 AM | Reply

I remember the name, TADOWE.

#41 | POSTED BY DANNI

You are a lying crapweasel and a puling hypocrite.

#42 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-13 10:01 AM | Reply

speaking of a Lying Crapweasle

is now a good time to revisit this?

On the policy side of the ledger I've been quite pleased with Trump
Posted by JeffJ at 2018-02-02 06:42 PM

#43 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-11-13 10:19 AM | Reply

"Probably the most crazy person who ever posted here." - #40 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-13 08:13 AM

Using that as the criteria, the list could be extensive (and in no particular order):

rightnut
bushlover2/AFKABL2
buffalo_bob (smokestacks on the moon/car antenna)
Crackpipejunkie
eddie
fredo/santino_c
jeffndenmark
LZK (she can see the Lake Superior from her condo in Chicago; Sarah Palin?)
niceville (muffins, anyone?)
tadowe
takitez (because God/Jesus told him/her who was going to win elections)

#44 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-13 10:59 AM | Reply

Americans Wake Up to Rising Prices

Like that has never happened.

#45 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 11:56 AM | Reply

In Trumpterd world....

Income tax increases increase prices.

Income tax cuts do not cut prices.

#7 | Posted by 726

And you believe that?

#46 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 11:58 AM | Reply

Well I have been steadily losing ground to inflation for years. Time to find a different job I guess.

#12 | Posted by GalaxiePete

You are partially correct gal. Mot much demand for a buggie whip maker.

#47 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 12:00 PM | Reply

What's mean income in Florida, per capita?

#14 | Posted by Zed

It is a state of retired people from NY. WTF do you think?

#48 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 12:02 PM | Reply

"So, you mean to tell me that over time, costs rise?"

Simple yes or no question: Do you believe a rise in tariffs cause a rise in prices?

#16 | Posted by Danforth

2 questions there ace and the second one depends on how long they last.

#49 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 12:04 PM | Reply

You probably shouldn't be using words if you don't know what they mean.

#35 | Posted by snoofy

Look who is talking. You keep making up new definitions every day here.

#50 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 12:09 PM | Reply

As a yes, Tariffs cause price increases. That WOULD be basic Math.

#36 | Posted by Sycophant

All depends on what you buy syc. Not every thing has a tariff on it.

Do you realize what Trump is trying to do with the tariffs? I don't think you have a clue.

#51 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 12:11 PM | Reply

"2 questions there ace"

No, it's only one, recruit. You have a lot to learn.

#52 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-13 12:12 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Inflation over that time was 10%, so they're behind.

That is so depressing to say.

#39 | Posted by BruceBanner

There was no inflation while o'bummer was pres.

#53 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 12:13 PM | Reply

"So, you mean to tell me that over time, costs rise?"

Simple yes or no question: Do you believe a rise in tariffs cause a rise in prices?

#16 | Posted by Danforth

2 question marks make 2 questions. Which one do you want us to ignore?

#54 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-13 01:31 PM | Reply

"There was no inflation while obama was pres." - #53 | Posted by 43 PLONKS! at 2018-11-13 12:13 PM

Actually...

Inflation and interest rates: Here the Obama record is enviable. The annual average inflation rate of 1.6 percent during his tenure is the lowest of any recent presidential term. The taming of inflation and inflationary expectations has translated into historically low interest rates.
Enviable.

#55 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-13 01:36 PM | Reply

"2 question marks make 2 questions."

The first was the question to which I was responding. Not my words, and therefore not my question. I only asked ONE question.

"Which one do you want us to ignore?"

It'd make the most sense to ignore this one:
www.drudge.com

#56 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-13 01:36 PM | Reply

As a yes, Tariffs cause price increases. That WOULD be basic Math.
#36 | Posted by Sycophant
All depends on what you buy syc. Not every thing has a tariff on it.
Do you realize what Trump is trying to do with the tariffs? I don't think you have a clue.
#51 | POSTED BY SNIPER

How's that working out?
The Trade Deficit is up.
Chinese exports are up.
US manufacturing costs are up and jobs are being lost.

Do you know what he is trying to accomplish?
They aren't a currency manipulator. Trump said so.
It isn't about tariffs and trade barriers. That was TPP and Trump said that's bad.
It isn't intellectual property rights. Trump promised to help ZTE, a major patent thief.

So what IS he trying to accomplish?

#57 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-13 03:40 PM | Reply

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