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Saturday, November 10, 2018

Instead of football with their families on this Veterans Day weekend, soldiers with the 19th Engineer Battalion, fresh from Fort Knox, Ky., were painstakingly webbing concertina wire on the banks of the Rio Grande, just beneath the McAllen-Hidalgo-Reynosa International Bridge.

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Brushing Up on Military Missions | Military.com

I hope this clears everything up for all you libs.

#1 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-10 11:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

They knew what they signed up for. Getting ordered around by a cowardly trust fund twerp with manhood issues.

#2 | Posted by bored at 2018-11-10 03:48 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Trump using the active duty military as a political prop should outrage everyone.

#3 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-10 06:47 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Interesting to see "no combat pay" as a drawback. These people could otherwise be sitting in garrison playing xbox. While it is Veterans Day weekend, it probably isn't too bad to be out on a high-vis mission.

#4 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-11-10 07:34 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

www.latimes.com

Thousands of Central Americans left Mexico City on Saturday bound for the U.S.-Mexico border, marking the latest stage in the journey of the migrant caravan that President Trump has labeled an invasion.

Bruce if it is nonexistent then it must be a hoax or hallucination. These people don't really exist do they?

I guess we need to just roll out the red carpet for anyone that desires to enter. Come on come all!

#5 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-10 08:50 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

In the week leading of the midterm election, the show averaged talking about the caravan 21 times per episode, while the day after the election, it was brought up just ... once. What a weird coincidence. "It was huge for like a week, and now nothing," Colbert put it. "It's the Tide Pod challenge of American politics. Except Tide Pods will actually kill you."
-vulture

#6 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-10 08:52 PM | Reply

www.pbs.org

Our armed forces exist to fight and win the nation's wars.

There are better ways to prepare for wars than to deal with this imaginary immigrant threat to our southern borders.

-- Andrew Bacevich


QFT

#7 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-10 08:52 PM | Reply

BYRDMAN

Only conservatives ever say that.

Why are you saying that?

I fully support enforcing our immigration policy without the drama and political circus/bias. So does every other liberal.

#8 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-10 08:54 PM | Reply

Funny... and they are probably getting hazard pay. Oh well mas tequila!!!

#9 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-11-10 09:12 PM | Reply

Cadet Bone Spurs would be at the border with the troops, but, well, maybe it's raining.... and anyway, bones spurs.

Besides, who needs a Rapist/Terrorist Caravan meme when the election is already over?

#10 | Posted by Corky at 2018-11-10 10:03 PM | Reply

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and they are probably getting hazard pay. Oh well mas tequila!!!
#9 | Posted by RightisTrite

Article says they aren't getting combat or hazard pay. I do wonder whether they're getting hooked up with per diem, BAS, or other allowances.

#11 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-11-10 10:29 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Found a campaign badge for all these folks:

en.wikipedia.org

#12 | Posted by GOnoles92 at 2018-11-10 10:55 PM | Reply

I do wonder whether they're getting hooked up with per diem, BAS, or other allowances.

#11 | POSTED BY GONOLES92

The article shows that they're in tents and references MREs, so I'd guess no.

#13 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-10 11:03 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

...Come on come all!
#5 | Posted by byrdman

I like it better put this way...

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

#14 | Posted by TFDNihilist at 2018-11-10 11:09 PM | Reply

TFDNIHILIST

That means, nothing to Trump. All he sees is a brown pestilence coming to -------- all over his lily white America.

#15 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-11-10 11:29 PM | Reply

All he sees is money and votes from the stupid and scared

#16 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-10 11:37 PM | Reply

"it probably isn't too bad to be out on a high-vis mission."

Except, of course, for those of us footing the bill.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-10 11:45 PM | Reply

Since the Trump crime family doesn't pay taxes, I guess this means nothing to them:

thehill.com

#18 | Posted by OCUser at 2018-11-11 01:03 AM | Reply

So the caravan members thought they would be able to just waltz over the border and do whatever they wanted to do. However after Trump made it clear they would be facing the US military if they tried they gave up a went back home. You have a problem with that?

#19 | Posted by jdmeth at 2018-11-11 01:10 AM | Reply

"However after Trump made it clear they would be facing the US military if they tried they gave up a went back home."

Nonsense. Last time, the "caravan" had about 14 people by the time it got to the border.

And they only thing "given up" is the Fox News reporting. They don't seem to need that "fearsome menace" anymore.

#20 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-11 01:15 AM | Reply

I wonder if those soldiers could have saved lives if they were deployed to california to assist the fire fighters.

#21 | Posted by bored at 2018-11-11 03:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

No doubt, BORED.

But we have to remember that Trump only cares about imaginary threats so he can crow about scaring them away.

Fires thumb their nose at Trump's threats.

#22 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-11-11 06:29 AM | Reply

So the caravan members thought they would be able to just waltz over the border and do whatever they wanted to do. However after Trump made it clear they would be facing the US military if they tried they gave up a went back home. You have a problem with that?

#19 | POSTED BY JDMETH

Since you're so big bad and tough, why don't you enlist in the U.S. Army so you can face these caravans on the border ... m.goarmy.com

I already served 20 years, now it's your turn.

#23 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-11 07:02 AM | Reply

Judging from the article, these guys are really freaking bored.

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-11 08:09 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

So there is a front door and not the entire southern border?

#25 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-11 08:29 AM | Reply

#25 | Posted by boaz You have a point, the immigrants who arrived in NYC in the late 19th and early 20th century were inspected and some were turned away. Criminals and political radicals among those sent home along with the chronically ill. TB didn't have a cure back then. The immigrants did not call Ellis Island the "Island of Tears" for no reason. So having the same standard now is unacceptable?

#26 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-11-11 09:57 AM | Reply

#24 | Posted by REDIAL, At Alfred Loyd Tennison said, "Warfare is endless tedium and boredom interrupted briefly by moments of shear terror". I imagine the soldiers will find something to do, we always do. It was never news when I and about 700 of my buddies went down to the same border to build roads and barriers. But Clinton was the POTUS at the time. Oh, yea, we had are weapons too.

#27 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-11-11 10:04 AM | Reply

#21 | Posted by bored, Actually, I have fought fires while I was on active duty. It sucks. Dragging a McClaskey and a chain saw up and down mountains in deep ash is almost as much fun as being in Iraq.

#28 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-11-11 10:18 AM | Reply

Actually, I have fought fires while I was on active duty. It sucks. Dragging a McClaskey and a chain saw up and down mountains in deep ash is almost as much fun as being in Iraq.

#28 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

In my previous life while serving in Her Majesty's personal Fire Battalion Brigade '6006s-4-Life', I fought the Fires of Cyranux and had no problem at all dragging my equipment around ... do more push-ups.

#29 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-11 12:04 PM | Reply

#29 | Posted by PinchALoaf Yea, pulling up 7 gallons of water up a mountain three or four times in an afternoon is such fun. Sleeping on the ground covered in ash is a blast. Digging fire breaks is interesting for about 2 minutes. Face it, fighting wild fires is no fun at all. It is hard, dangerous work and no one is up there but a bunch of other tired, dirty soldiers doing dull, tedious work cleaning up hot spots and building fire breaks.

#30 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-11-11 12:17 PM | Reply

Bruce if it is nonexistent then it must be a hoax or hallucination. These people don't really exist do they?
I guess we need to just roll out the red carpet for anyone that desires to enter. Come on come all!
#5 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN AT 2018-11-10 08:50 PM | REPLY |

The McAllen border station processes 18 MILLION crossings per year. 7,000 extra isnt even a busy day for them. There is no military threat. The military personnel do not even have the ability to interact with the migrants.

#31 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-11 01:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

You have a point, the immigrants who arrived in NYC in the late 19th and early 20th century were inspected and some were turned away. Criminals and political radicals among those sent home along with the chronically ill. TB didn't have a cure back then. The immigrants did not call Ellis Island the "Island of Tears" for no reason. So having the same standard now is unacceptable?

#26 | POSTED BY DOCNJO AT 2018-11-11 09:57 AM | REPLY |

Nobody is saying let everyone in but if they are healthy and not criminals let them in. Same as back then.

#32 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-11 01:25 PM | Reply

--Nobody is saying let everyone in but if they are healthy and not criminals let them in. Same as back then.

Any upper limit on that? Over a 100 million foreigners told Gallup they would really, really like to move to America. You good with that?

#33 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-11 01:32 PM | Reply

If everyone is so upset about costs maybe we should ask for a volunteer citizens brigade to stop the marchers from entering. I can bet a ton of right wing militia members would rejoice at the opportunity to take on this band of immigrants.

#34 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-11 01:51 PM | Reply

BYRDMAN

What is a "right wing militia" and are they well regulated and by whom?

#35 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-11-11 06:28 PM | Reply

Any upper limit on that? Over a 100 million foreigners told Gallup they would really, really like to move to America. You good with that?

#33 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-11-11 01:32 PM | REPLY |

Yes as long as they are healthy and not criminals. They create more jobs than they take.

#36 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-11 07:32 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Any upper limit on that? Over a 100 million foreigners told Gallup they would really, really like to move to America. You good with that?

#33 | POSTED BY NULLIFIDIAN AT 2018-11-11 01:32 PM | REPLY

Does freedom of movement only apply to rich people?

Your side is always claiming that if there are no good jobs people should just move to where the jobs are.

#37 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-11 07:37 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Let's don't start this argument. Yes, there should be an immigration policy which we don't seem to have right now. Instead of arguing about extremes (100% open vs 100% closed) how about putting your heads together to come up with something in the middle.

#38 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-11-11 07:48 PM | Reply

Drafted, served my time, thank you very much.

#39 | Posted by jdmeth at 2018-11-11 09:43 PM | Reply

What is a "right wing militia" and are they well regulated and by whom?
#35 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2018-11-11 06:28 PM

Check out groups like the Michigan Militia. Pa has one too. They aren't regulated but they would cheap to the taxpayer. They are a volunteer brigade that would gladly protect the borders.

#40 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-11 11:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#40

Both MI and PA, like many other states, have official state militias under the control of the governor.

#41 | Posted by et_al at 2018-11-11 11:59 PM | Reply

So the caravan members thought they would be able to just waltz over the border and do whatever they wanted to do. However after Trump made it clear they would be facing the US military if they tried they gave up a went back home. You have a problem with that?

#19 | POSTED BY JDMETH AT 2018-11-11 01:10 AM

The Caravan is planning to present itself at the border and apply for assylum. There is no scenario where the military has any interaction with them.

This is about as logical as calling out the national guard because the call volume at Geek Squad went up. T

#42 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-12 09:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

#32 | Posted by hatter5183 The effect of the current situation is exactly that of allowing anyone in. Anyone who can walk across or get a plane ticket, once they set foot in this country undocumented of over stay their visas they are doing this. Let's say a loser in Mexico or further south will be the same here. Proof is in the numbers in prison, emergency rooms, public housing and schools.

#43 | Posted by docnjo at 2018-11-12 10:20 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

It comes as no surprise that Humpy would abuse his power as commander in chief.

Just another abuse to add to the list with his other abuses of power like removal of security clearances to punish anyone who speaks against him.

What makes this one so offensive is that he is using our troops as props in his reality tv show.

Disgusting display of abuse of power.

#44 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-12 01:31 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Tip of the iceberg...

The caravans of Central Americans currently traveling northward through Mexico are but the "tip of the iceberg" of a massive and unseen flow of migrants at Mexico's southern border from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, said a high-ranking appointee in the incoming administration of President Andrés Manuel López Obrador.

"The caravans are not the problem," said Tonatiuh Guillén López, who will take over as head of Mexico's National Migration Institute, known as INAMI, when the new administration takes office on Dec. 1. "The issue is the movements we do not see, those who are not in the caravan, that is the big issue."

#45 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-12 01:38 PM | Reply

#32 | Posted by hatter5183 The effect of the current situation is exactly that of allowing anyone in. Anyone who can walk across or get a plane ticket, once they set foot in this country undocumented of over stay their visas they are doing this. Let's say a loser in Mexico or further south will be the same here. Proof is in the numbers in prison, emergency rooms, public housing and schools.

#43 | POSTED BY DOCNJO

Typical.

No, it's not that easy to walk across the border. It's a long dangerous trip. And 5,600 troops won't accomplish anything.

The VAST majority of illegal immigrants cross legally and just stay.

#46 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-12 01:56 PM | Reply

What is a "right wing militia" and are they well regulated and by whom?
#35 | POSTED BY TWINPAC AT 2018-11-11 06:28 PM
Check out groups like the Michigan Militia. Pa has one too. They aren't regulated but they would cheap to the taxpayer. They are a volunteer brigade that would gladly protect the borders.

#40 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN

"They aren't regulated"

Exactly the problem. We don't need a bunch of trigger happy idiots shooting everything that moves on the border.

The wall would only slow anyone crossing illegally down by about 5 minutes. Maybe 10.

It's about tech watching the border. It's about catching them when they are here. And it's about penalizing companies who hire them.

No jobs, no illegal immigrants.

#47 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-12 02:02 PM | Reply

"The effect of the current situation is exactly that of allowing anyone in."

Why do Republicans insist on a world that doesn't exist?

#48 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-12 02:02 PM | Reply

"The caravans of Central Americans currently traveling northward through Mexico are but the "tip of the iceberg" of a massive and unseen flow of migrants at Mexico's southern border from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, said a high-ranking appointee in the incoming administration of President Andrés Manuel López Obrador."

Thanks, Capitalism!

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-12 02:03 PM | Reply

--And it's about penalizing companies who hire them.

Let's pass mandatory eVerify. Should be a non-partisan issue, right?

#50 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-12 02:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Check out groups like the Michigan Militia. Pa has one too. They aren't regulated but they would cheap to the taxpayer. They are a volunteer brigade that would gladly protect the borders.

#40 | POSTED BY BYRDMAN

Terry Nichols was a member of the Michigan Militia. Very good people /Sarcasm

#51 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-12 02:16 PM | Reply

I like it better put this way...

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

#14 | Posted by TFDNihilist

Is that a new law?

#52 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-12 02:32 PM | Reply

"it probably isn't too bad to be out on a high-vis mission."

Except, of course, for those of us footing the bill.

#17 | Posted by Danforth

So we don't pay them when they are at their home base? You are funny.

#53 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-12 02:33 PM | Reply

I already served 20 years, now it's your turn.

#23 | Posted by PinchALoaf

I don't believe that.

#54 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-12 02:35 PM | Reply

What is a "right wing militia" and are they well regulated and by whom?

#35 | Posted by Twinpac

It is plain to see that you don't have a clue.

#55 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-12 02:39 PM | Reply

"They are a volunteer brigade that would gladly protect the borders."

Based on how effectively they protected the Malheur wildlife refuge and Cliven Bundy's illegal cattle operation, you and I must have a different understanding of the meaning of the word "Protect."

Fun fact: People who think it's fun to shoot at road signs and BLM vehicles aren't exactly what the Founders had in mind when they said "well-regulated."

#56 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-12 02:41 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

They create more jobs than they take.

#36 | Posted by hatter5183

What jobs would they create? More poop scoopers in SF? Maybe you would like to open a bed and breakfast for a bunch of them.

#57 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-12 02:41 PM | Reply

"What jobs would they create?"

My buddy the white male english speaking illegal immigrant from Ireland helped build a bar. People work there. Those jobs.

#58 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-12 02:44 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Let's don't start this argument. Yes, there should be an immigration policy which we don't seem to have right now. Instead of arguing about extremes (100% open vs 100% closed) how about putting your heads together to come up with something in the middle.

#38 | Posted by Twinpac

LOL. we let over 1 million a year come into the country Through a legal process every year. I hardly think that is 100% closed. Try engaging your mind before you do another foolish post.

#59 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-12 02:46 PM | Reply

No jobs, no illegal immigrants.

#47 | Posted by Sycophant

You are half right, We give them way too many free things when they are here.

#60 | Posted by Sniper at 2018-11-12 02:50 PM | Reply

"Through a legal process every year. I hardly think that is 100% closed."

What he's saying, Sniper, is when the border is closed, nobody gets in and nobody gets out.

Is that what you want, nobody gets in and nobody gets out?

#61 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-12 02:53 PM | Reply

"We give them way too many free things when they are here."

No we don't.

You're also glossing over the fact that not giving them things has its own cost. Citizen checking everyone all the time is costly especially in America where the party you support is hostile to a national ID card.

Because a national ID card would obviate the way the GOP disenfranchises people at the State level with State ID requirements, in case you can't connect those dots all by yourself.

#62 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-12 02:58 PM | Reply

No jobs, no illegal immigrants.
#47 | Posted by Sycophant
You are half right, We give them way too many free things when they are here.

#60 | POSTED BY SNIPER

No.
immigrationforum.org

You can't receive federal welfare if you are an illegal immigrant. Your child can only if they are a citizen.

Some states permit state welfare to illegal immigrants in limited forms.

You can't receive Medicaid either as an illegal immigrant.

An illegal immigrant child can go to school. But that's about it.

Want to try again?

#63 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-12 04:11 PM | Reply

You are half right, We give them way too many free things when they are here.

#60 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2018-11-12 02:50 PM | REPLY | FLAG:

examples please.

#64 | Posted by cjk85 at 2018-11-12 05:05 PM | Reply

#60 | POSTED BY SNIPER AT 2018-11-12 02:50 PM | REPLY | FLAG:
examples please.

#64 | POSTED BY CJK85 AT 2018-11-12 05:05 PM | REPLY

Oprah greets each one and gives them a free car, an obamaphone, a free home, lobster, steak, and caviar.

#65 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-12 05:48 PM | Reply

Cheaper than sending them overseas. HA! some are pist the pay is only a tenth here, oh you mean nobody told them hahahahaaaa!

That's alright they're the weekend warriors on another of their multiple all paid vacations, NOT REAL ! SOLDIERS even ask one they'll admit it with a shrug. HA! why do you hear of Helicopter crashing into other Helicopters, that's right doctors and lawyers at playtime. Do you think the real soldiers and pilots ... the LIFETIME ONES WOULD CRASH A QUARTER MILLION DOLLAR UNIT!??!?!?! not likely. JUst ask any of them in the states, they're part timer weekend warriors not the legit solders.

Again, those weekender soldiers are board out of thier gourd and its better than playing war games in the dessert. They are on vacation leave them alone. For half if not more its better than being at home with all the do honey this do honey that and neverENDING FAVORS! just ask one, they'll shrug and tell you the very same thing. OKay bye-bye-now just my two bits and I`m sticking to it !

#66 | Posted by mw6789MW at 2018-11-12 08:26 PM | Reply

SNOOFY

" People who think it's fun to shoot at road signs and BLM vehicles aren't exactly what the Founders had in mind when they said "well-regulated."

NW flag for that.

I can just picture a bunch of fat old losers with beer bellies and tattoos sitting out there on their Hogs "protecting" anything other than their coolers full of brewskis and their stash of cocaine ... and lying to each other about "white power" and saving the country.

An illegal immigrant could probably just step over the bodies.

SNIPER must have some real loser type friends.

#67 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-11-13 06:26 AM | Reply

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