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Friday, November 09, 2018

We often find ourselves in the following situation, when it comes to a discussion or argument: we confront people with different ideas or perspectives to our own. We are arguing in good faith: we sincerely believe in our ideas and want to convey them to the other side, perhaps convincing them to change or alter their opinion.

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We lay out facts and evidence to bolster our opinion but slowly and subtly we find the discussion/argument veering in unexpected directions, becoming increasingly heated. Our ideas are challenged in a way that makes us emotional. We return their fire. It starts to get a bit personal. We begin to lose track of the original idea, weakening our own position as we get lost in tangents. In the end, we feel frustrated, angry, and sometimes even guilty for saying things we later regret. What has happened in this situation? Most often, we have locked horns with a type we shall call the passive-aggressive arguer. This type does not argue in good faith.

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Dude is obviously not self aware and is totally lacking all introspection.

#1 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-11-09 02:25 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

How to argue with a passive aggressive liberal

Gonna make any new extreme predictions?

Looks like that's one of those Extending To Extremes warnings.

#2 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-09 02:31 PM | Reply

"We are arguing in good faith"

No Boaz, you are NOT arguing in good faith. Which is usually why the conversation escalates so quickly.

And of course you will say it is because the other side is angry.

Look in the mirror bro. Your "free speech" has consequences.

Trump is not doing anything "in good faith". You supporting him no matter what puts you in a positoj where you are forced to support Trumps lies.

Be careful of the the mask you choose to wear in Life, the Image you choose to present. You may become stuck with it. Wearing the Humpy supporter mask will not end well for you because of your severe political distemper. You have already become unable to detach yourself emotionally.

"Constant development is the law of life, and a man who always tries to maintain his dogmas in order to appear consistent drives himself into a false position."-Gandhi

#3 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-09 02:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Which is usually why the conversation escalates so quickly.

No, it escalates quickly because whoever I'm arguing with knows I'm making good points and doesnt want to admit it. So, to counter, they have to either get aggressive or accept what I said or or insult me.

It happens here every day.

#4 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-09 03:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

It happens here every day.
#4 | POSTED BY BOAZ

Being aggressive and insulting you are tantamount?

#5 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-11-09 03:23 PM | Reply

"No, it escalates quickly because whoever I'm arguing with knows I'm making good points and doesnt want to admit it"

Ok, I'll translate this for the class. "My ego has me but he throat and I'm not open to my opinions not being right"

Boaz, you just like many on the other side of where you are, start a lot of your posts off by labeling people and assigning them a position. That's what leads to bickering.

what's worse is that every time Trump does something you know is absolutely wrong, you have to somehow tabulate that up so that it's ok. That's gotta be hard on the mind. Half the ---- he's doing right now was considered a hanging offense under Obama.

#6 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-09 03:45 PM | Reply

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Mommy those big bad liberals are out there waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa They hurted my fweelings waaaaaaaaaaaaa

#7 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-09 03:49 PM | Reply

whoever I'm arguing with knows I'm making good points and doesnt want to admit it"

So. All Trumpublicans are, in essence, petulant children who think they're always right and it's everyone else who's wrong.

Boaz. If you were ever to make a good point, I'm sure people would agreed with you on it.

It's not a conspiracy. You're dumb.

#8 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-09 03:50 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

If you were ever to make a good point, I'm sure people would agreed with you on it.

Problem is, Clown, the only time you would think a comment was a good point, is if it was liberal.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-09 04:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"How to argue with a passive aggressive liberal"

Posted by a passive aggressive conservative with an IQ at room temperature.

You're adorable, Boaz.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 04:23 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"We are arguing in good faith"

LOL. You argue Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Marxist.

"We lay out facts and evidence to bolster our opinion."

Sure. Facts like "Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Marxist."

Doesn't it bother you, how heartbreakingly ignorant you are, Boaz?

It bothers us. I suppose that's why you keep being you, because anything that annoys liberals is worth it, and coincidentally you don't know how to do anything else with your miserable life.

#11 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 04:29 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Clown, the only time you would think a comment was a good point, is if it was liberal.

Boaz, I've had many conversations with Goatman (back in the day), Jeff, RoC, and other conservative posters who have had many good points on different subject matters.

I've had many conversations with those same people where I found them absolutely ridiculous.

The problem with a lot of conservatives is they've taken Hillary's challenge to be deplorable, and double downed on it.

I saw some pics from Tuesday's voting day. Two guys wearing a shirt saying, "I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat." Good. Move to Russia.

#12 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-09 04:41 PM | Reply

"We lay out facts and evidence"
POSTED BY BOAZ

Hahahahahahaha! Lololololol!
Thanks for the laugh

#13 | Posted by johnny_hotsauce at 2018-11-09 04:41 PM | Reply

"We lay out facts and evidence"
POSTED BY BOAZ
Hahahahahahaha! Lololololol!
Thanks for the laugh

POSTED BY JOHNNY_HOTSAUCE AT 2018-11-09 04:41 PM | REPLY

He wouldn't know a fact even if it snuck up and bit him on his hiney.

#14 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-09 04:46 PM | Reply

Maybe I'm too harsh on Boaz.

He has some real unique talents.

Like being able to tell if a foot is male or female, just from the smell.

I sure as hell can't pull that one off!

#15 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 04:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I hope everyone knows that this thread is exactly what Boaz needs. It's simply attention. His remarks and links he post are trophies to his cash of goodies.

I like Boaz. I think he's misguided a little but some of our exchanges lead me to believe he's probably a very responsible man and a good husband/father.

#16 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-09 05:19 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

You people need to stop engaging this f#%k ----.

#17 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-11-09 05:57 PM | Reply

"I like Boaz. I think he's misguided a little but some of our exchanges lead me to believe he's probably a very responsible man and a good husband/father."

You're an idiot.

#18 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-11-09 05:59 PM | Reply

How to argue with a passive aggressive liberal

Start by offering a veggie pita, or a pre-grilled cheese sandwich. Explain you're just 'looking for dialog, bro'. The whole time this is happening, your bear mace cartridge dispenser is fully charged...

#19 | Posted by Spork at 2018-11-09 06:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

--Start by offering a veggie pita, or a pre-grilled cheese sandwich

With a pumpkin-spice latte and Ben&Jerry's Pecan Resist ice cream for desert.

#20 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-09 06:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Ben&Jerry's Pecan Resist ice cream"

Almost as good as:www.snopes.com

#21 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-09 06:20 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

I prefer "Almondtifa".

#22 | Posted by Spork at 2018-11-09 06:30 PM | Reply

"How to argue with a passive aggressive liberal"

Is that anything like arguing with a Russian pretending to be a Black American?

#23 | Posted by Tor at 2018-11-09 06:55 PM | Reply

You're an idiot.

#18 | POSTED BY ANGRYDAD AT 2018-11-09 05:59 PM | FLAG:

Heal thyself. Loser

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-09 08:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 2

Idiot? I bet I out perform you by at least 100k a year

#25 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-09 08:08 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

Boaz is the new Goatmam. The art of the troll.

#26 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-09 08:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I at least had respect for the GOATMAN.

BOAZ is useless.

That perspective would change if he would simply espouse a sense of interest in cognitive dissonance. But he chooses ignorance. GOATMAN would at least consider alternative POVs.

BOAZ refuses at every single turn.

#27 | Posted by rstybeach11 at 2018-11-09 08:57 PM | Reply

All five tactics so called "liberals" are accused of using are the exact same tactics conservatives use in almost every argument. BOAZ claiming that he posts facts is just laughable and I can say honestly, a few times he has and I have agreed with him on some things. Articles like that one are a pure, unadulterated, waste of time and space.

#28 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-10 03:39 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

I find myself arguing and disagreeing with liberals more and more these days.

I can't stand how they never run on important issues or talk about important things.

Guillotining the 1%, for example.

#29 | Posted by MrSilenceDogood at 2018-11-10 05:14 AM | Reply

Why on earth would anyone try to argue with an NPC? Their programming does not allow them to accept new or different thoughts than the ones already implanted. Until the DNC send their next update/patch file, they are just going to repeat the same talking points over and over again until they cry.

#30 | Posted by moveon_2020 at 2018-11-10 05:35 AM | Reply

MOVEON

Be careful. What you just posted screams projection. (Look it up) Trump does it all the time. Everybody but you seems to be smart enough avoid that psychological "tell." There's a cure but you have to study in front of mirror to realize how stupid it sounds.

#31 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-11-10 07:13 AM | Reply

#16,

Thanks man (I guess)?

There are a few liberals on this site I can argue with, but it's usually those who dont insult.

#32 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-10 09:08 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

repeat the same talking points over and over again until they cry.

#30 | POSTED BY MOVEON_2020 AT 2018-11-10 05:35 AM | FLAG:

And you hopscotch your way from thread to thread making comments just like that pretending like anyone would want to have a discussion with you.

Who is "they" ? So far I haven't seen you make anyone cry. You've had your ass handed to you a few times over your multiple personalities but other than that you're a ------------ pot stirr.

#33 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-10 10:56 AM | Reply

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds

Yeah, whatever.

You would've made an excellent German citizen in the 30s.

#34 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-11-10 11:59 AM | Reply

Idiot? I bet I out perform you by at least 100k a year

#25 | POSTED BY LFTHNDTHRDS

So what.

Why do people constantly assume paycheck = intelligence?

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-10 12:53 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

35 | POSTED BY JPW AT 2018-11-10 12:53 PM | FLAG:

It was an angry response. It has nothing to do with anything else. I made a decent comment about Boaz and got called an idiot.

#36 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-10 01:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

#24 | Posted by lfthndthrds
Yeah, whatever.
You would've made an excellent German citizen in the 30s.

And you're still a loser.

#37 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-10 01:17 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

"Idiot? I bet I out perform you by at least 100k a year"

"And you're still a loser."

You sound just like Trump.

#38 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-11-10 01:38 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Yeah, whatever.
You would've made an excellent German citizen in the 30s.
And you're still a loser.

-Angry

And you sound like a mouth piece for antifa

#39 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-10 04:24 PM | Reply | Funny: 3 | Newsworthy 1

Title of the thread needs to read "how to argue with a passive aggressive Lilly white red neck that pretends to be a black guy".

Own a mirror coamrade Boazo??? If so, look into you Hilljack!

#40 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-11-10 06:43 PM | Reply

"And you sound like a mouth piece for antifa"

So, you've circled back around to idiot.

Excellent job.

LOL!

#41 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-11-10 09:28 PM | Reply

So you never left idiot? Get out sometime.

#42 | Posted by lfthndthrds at 2018-11-10 10:25 PM | Reply

"So. All Trumpublicans are, in essence, petulant children who think they're always right and it's everyone else who's wrong."

Many are. But so were many of thee BernieBros. Maybe more so. You're reinforcing several of the authors points just with this statement.

#43 | Posted by madbomber at 2018-11-11 09:39 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Boaz, posting this doesn't change the fact that you're an inbred confederate vestige that hates the United States of America and its historically liberal values.

#44 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-11-11 11:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Why argue when you can just ignore them?

#45 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-11-11 02:21 PM | Reply

We got our white people. We got our black people. We got our brown people. We got our asian people. We got our gay people. We got our straight people. We got our rich people. We got our poor people.

We got people who fell out off the Ugly Tree and hit every branch on the way down. And we got people who didn't.

We got brain surgeons and rocket scientists and morons and even zombies.

And then we got Mr.Freemason....

#46 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-11-11 04:45 PM | Reply

RACIST! SEXIST! NAZI! HITLER! ANTI-SEMITE! ORANGE MAN BAD! I WIN!!

#47 | Posted by AuntieSocial at 2018-11-12 12:53 PM | Reply

we sincerely believe in our ideas and want to convey them to the other side

POSTED BY BOAZ

you are turning yourself into an idiot. the problem with what you are arguing now, just like all your other arguments, is that you think just because you believe something to be true, that that makes it iron-clad true.

You also have no ability to admit that you could be wrong.

Third, you have reduced yourself down to a ignorant shill for a traitor and child-molester.

#48 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-11-12 01:29 PM | Reply

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