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Friday, November 09, 2018

A federal judge in Montana halted construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline on Thursday on the grounds that the U.S. government did not complete a full analysis of the environmental impact of the TransCanada project.

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Fake News.
Trump said he was cutting regulations and would handle this.

#1 | Posted by bored at 2018-11-09 11:43 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

considering all the glad handing and back slapping the "conservatives" did yesterday over US oil production, who really needs this Canadian pipeline.

#2 | Posted by ChiefTutMoses at 2018-11-09 12:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

"on the grounds that the U.S. government did not complete a full analysis of the environmental impact of the TransCanada project."

Mike Pence quoting The Bible wasn't enough for a Montana judge?

The times they are a-changin!

#3 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 12:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

Let me guess: Obama-appointed judge?

#4 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-09 07:17 PM | Reply

What a week for Native America.

Not one but two Natives Ladies get themselves elected to Congress and now a Judge is siding with them over corporations.

#5 | Posted by Tor at 2018-11-09 07:30 PM | Reply

considering all the glad handing and back slapping the "conservatives" did yesterday over US oil production, who really needs this Canadian pipeline.
#2 | POSTED BY CHIEFTUTMOSES AT 2018-11-09 12:35 PM | REPLY

Keystone XL is and always has been about selling Canadian oil in a warm water port. America doesn't use it.

#6 | Posted by hatter5183 at 2018-11-09 07:35 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Trump officially approves TransCanada's Keystone XL permit: Speaking from the White House, Trump offers his praise to TransCanada CEO Russell Girling, saying he's a "very respected man in the energy world." Standing by Trump's side, Girling addresses the approval of the Keystone XL pipeline and the impact on the economy.

LOL. donald lies again.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

#7 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-09 07:44 PM | Reply

Let me guess: Obama-appointed judge?

Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-09 07:17 PM | Reply

Want some cheese to go with your whine??

#8 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-09 07:59 PM | Reply | Funny: 2

If you like your pipeline, you can keep your pipeline.

#9 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-09 08:14 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I might be okay with Keystone XL if it offered any direct benefit whatsoever to my fellow Americans.

You know, like cut a check for some percentage of the oil sales and mail it to every person in America.

As stands, all we get is free risk of a pipeline spill or explosion. No thanks.

#10 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 09:56 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

You know, like cut a check for some percentage of the oil sales and mail it to every person in America.

Like Exxon does with all their other projects?

#11 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-09 10:07 PM | Reply

More like the Alaska Permanent Dividend Fund.

#12 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 10:25 PM | Reply

Are you inherently hostile to the concept of Americans getting a direct payment for the harvesting and development and exploitation of American Natural Resources?

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 10:26 PM | Reply

Of course in this case is Canadian natural resources but they need to come to our country to get to Port so I say we take a piece off the top seems fair.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 10:27 PM | Reply

More like the Alaska Permanent Dividend Fund.

Implemented right after the Alaska pipeline was running.

#15 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-09 10:29 PM | Reply

Are you inherently hostile to the concept of Americans getting a direct payment for the harvesting and development and exploitation of American Natural Resources?

Absolutely not. I also know that is never going to happen.

#16 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-09 10:36 PM | Reply

It happened in Alaska... plus there was a pipeline involved... no? ;)

#17 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 10:37 PM | Reply

Don't build the Keystone XL Pipeline. You are threatening the Ogallala Aquifer.

#18 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-09 10:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Not now. donald said XL was a go. Sure bet it's not going to happen.

#19 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-09 10:40 PM | Reply

I'm starting a stopwatch on the current pendulum swing that separates spreadsheets from human dignity.

#20 | Posted by ajwood at 2018-11-10 04:55 PM | Reply

the oil is coming anyway by Rail. Rail is a much more dangerous way. more than likely Warrant Buffet has that Judge in his back pocket. For those not aware Buffet owns BNSF and interest in other RR

#21 | Posted by Maverick at 2018-11-11 09:25 AM | Reply

the oil is coming anyway by Rail. Rail is a much more dangerous way. more than likely Warrant Buffet has that Judge in his back pocket. For those not aware Buffet owns BNSF and interest in other RR

#21 | POSTED BY MAVERICK AT 2018-11-11 09:25 AM | FLAG:

Actually rail is better than -pipeline but don't let facts get in the way of your whine.

#22 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-11 11:27 AM | Reply

"more than likely Warrant Buffet has that Judge in his back pocket."

Based on what?

(Other than your desire for it to be true, of course.)

#23 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-11 11:28 AM | Reply

earthjustice.org

#24 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-11 11:43 AM | Reply

--earthjustice.org

Is that a new site for the Earth First! environmental terrorists?

#25 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-11 11:57 AM | Reply

Oh look... Hypocriddian is here to "slaughter the source".

#26 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-11 12:30 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

--#26 | Posted by REDIAL

I was trained by the very best at "slaughter the source," Corkus of Naples. Let us know when you attack him or anyone else for that tactic.

#27 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-11 12:35 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

Pretty sure that the environmental impact study was completed under the obama administration - guess his people were f***Ups.

#28 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-11-11 02:20 PM | Reply

on the grounds that the U.S. government did not complete a full analysis of the environmental impact of the TransCanada project.

How fricking long does it take to do that? Until his hand was absolutely forced, Obama kept delaying approval for this very reason. At this point, if the environmental impact analysis isn't complete then it will never be complete.

#29 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-11 02:24 PM | Reply

"How fricking long does it take to do that?"

Well, Trump's had almost two years.

"At this point, if the environmental impact analysis isn't complete then it will never be complete."

Because Trump is incompetent?

#30 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-11 02:28 PM | Reply

Until his hand was absolutely forced, Obama kept delaying approval for this very reason.

Then he said no, you can't build it.

#31 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-11 02:32 PM | Reply

Then he said no, you can't build it.

#31 | POSTED BY REDIAL

Which was a political decision.

He did everything within his power to curb fossil fuel production. Our energy boom occurred in spite of Obama.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-11 02:39 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Nobody in their correct frame of mind would want the pipeline built. It's ridiculously irresponsible to risk the Ogallala Aquifer. You can't water crops with contaminated water nor can you drink it.

#33 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-11 04:24 PM | Reply

Oh look... Hypocriddian is here to "slaughter the source".

#26 | Posted by REDIAL

--#26 | Posted by REDIAL

I was trained by the very best at "slaughter the source," Corkus of Naples. Let us know when you attack him or anyone else for that tactic.

#27 | Posted by nullifidian

Hypocriddian vs Corkus of Naples.

LOL who's bringing the foam swords?

#34 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-11 05:23 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

He did everything within his power to curb fossil fuel production.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ

Good.

#35 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-11 05:24 PM | Reply

--He did everything within his power to curb fossil fuel production.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ

Good.

#35 | Posted by jpw

Good for the upper middle class and above, who can afford higher energy prices. Not so good for everyone else.

#36 | Posted by nullifidian at 2018-11-11 05:38 PM | Reply

Ignore Null him and the rest of the St. Petersburg pack can drop dead.

#37 | Posted by Tor at 2018-11-11 05:44 PM | Reply

Good for the upper middle class and above, who can afford higher energy prices. Not so good for everyone else.

#36 | Posted by nullifidian

Like you actually care about the lower class.

In any case, I say good because it's not worth the destruction of our environment to keep gas cheap enough for fat lazy Americans to keep buying SUVs and pickup trucks they don't need.

Plus, the glut of domestic supply isn't doing a thing to lower prices beyond the usual fluctuations you see seasonally. It's just pure profit right into the oil company's management's pockets.

#38 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-11 05:48 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

www.pipeline101.com

Well, I guess pipeline is something new and unusual unless you do a little research.

'The United States has the largest network of energy pipelines in the world, with more than 2.4 million miles of pipe. The network of crude oil pipelines in the U.S. is extensive. There are approximately 72,000 miles of crude oil lines in the U.S. that connect regional markets.
Pipeline101 - Where-Are-Pipelines-Located'
www.pipeline101.org/Where-Are-Pipelines-Located

#39 | Posted by MSgt at 2018-11-11 06:26 PM | Reply

"He did everything within his power to curb fossil fuel production."

Obama personally ordered the explosion on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico.
Well, it was either Obama or Lois Lerner.

#40 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-11 07:56 PM | Reply

SNOOFY

"Obama personally ordered the explosion on the Deepwater Horizon oil rig in the Gulf of Mexico."

You can't be serious. Tell me you're not serious.

Because if you are, it was British Petroleum who pled guilty for a series of cost cutting decisions and inadequate safety procedures, only one of which was a faulty blowout preventer, that caused the explosion. Not to mention 11 counts of manslaughter and a felony count for lying to congress. In all, including fines, restitution and cleanup, they paid out over $42 Billion as of last count in 2013.

British Petroleum, Haliburton (the contractor) and Transocean (the rig operator) were actually all at fault in their haste to close the well before the lease ran out.

#41 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-11-11 09:34 PM | Reply

"It's not worth the destruction of our environment to keep gas cheap enough for fat lazy Americans to keep buying SUVs and pickup trucks they don't need."

just like you to tell people what they need or don't need.

I for one enjoy blowing by a Prius with my 6,000 lb SUV and I'm the only one in it. Stop me.

#42 | Posted by sames1 at 2018-11-11 10:08 PM | Reply

"You can't be serious. Tell me you're not serious."

My comment is merely intentioned to highlight JeffJ's relentless partisan stupidity.

#43 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-11 10:23 PM | Reply

SNOOFY

Thank you. You had me worried for a minute.

#44 | Posted by Twinpac at 2018-11-11 10:29 PM | Reply

Lois Lerner is the Lex Luthor of JeffJ's world; I'm surprised you didn't pick up the sarcasms from my including her name.

#45 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-11 10:31 PM | Reply

[They] were actually all at fault in their haste to close the well before the lease ran out.

A producing lease does not "run out." A lease consists of two time terms called the Habendum Clause. The primary term is a fixed period during which exploration and drilling is conducted. The secondary term, triggered by production, is indefinite so long as a well is producing in paying quantities. The lease "runs out" at the end of the primary term if production in paying quantities is not achieved i.e. a dry hole. Macondo was not a dry hole.

#46 | Posted by et_al at 2018-11-11 10:40 PM | Reply

"Lois Lerner is the Lex Luthor of JeffJ's world"

Based on supposedly slow-walking an approval the organizations didn't need to operate the exact same way.

Meanwhile, Jeff was silent on the weaponization of the tax code by the Republicans.

#47 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-11 10:42 PM | Reply

I for one enjoy blowing by a Prius with my 6,000 lb SUV and I'm the only one in it. Stop me.

I like blowing by 6,000 lb SUVs in my Acura Hybrid. You can't stop me.

#48 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-11 10:43 PM | Reply

"Macondo was not a dry hole."

Well it certainly didn't have any drilling mud in it.

#49 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-11 10:56 PM | Reply

just like you to tell people what they need or don't need.

I for one enjoy blowing by a Prius with my 6,000 lb SUV and I'm the only one in it. Stop me.

#42 | Posted by sames1

When was the last time you came close to filling the capacity of the your SUV?

My jaded nature about SUVs and trucks is from my time in Texas. EVERYBODY drove either an SUV or truck.

The trucks made me laugh because most were clean enough to eat off of.

And yet a weekend at the local watering hole wasn't complete without all the SUV/truck drivers getting their bitch fest on about how expensive gas was.

It was all about status symbols and they wanted the cheap gas provided to them no matter what the cost.

#50 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-12 12:08 AM | Reply

I like blowing by 6,000 lb SUVs in my Acura Hybrid. You can't stop me.

#48 | Posted by REDIAL

I'll bet you at least smile when the SUV driver blows through $10 worth of gas trying to catch up.

#51 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-12 12:10 AM | Reply

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