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Friday, November 09, 2018

To critics of the state's Republican-drawn congressional districts, which have been declared unconstitutional by a panel of three federal judges, Tuesday's results provided another example of a broken redistricting process, protecting Republicans from a strong showing by Democrats.

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This is the biggest problem with our government.

#1 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-08 04:51 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 3

#1

What, that each district has its own vote totals?

The Horror!

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-11-08 05:05 PM | Reply | Funny: 2 | Newsworthy 1

The statewide vote total only counts for the Senate, which is not what this article is talking about.

If you want to stop gerrymandering in any State, do what California did and put it in the hands of a non-partisan commission.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter at 2018-11-08 05:06 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

The North Carolina GOP will never willingly cede their Gerrymandering power.

I'd love to be wrong. But I'm not.

#4 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-08 05:08 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

#2 what? Are you being obtuse or is my post not clear?

#5 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-08 05:09 PM | Reply

He's being obtuse. He doesn't get enough of that defending Harvey Weinstein in his day job, so he comes here to be obtuse at us.

#6 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-08 05:11 PM | Reply

This is the biggest problem with our government.

#1 | Posted by jpw

North Carolina has always been a problem. Must be not enough fluoride in the water.

They need to legalize weed and chill out some.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-08 06:22 PM | Reply

A citizens initiative is the cure for gerrymandering, the vast majority of Americans want free and fair elections. It is only Republican politicians who don't. I believe it is now about seven states who are putting an end to gerrymandering. It should be 50 states are putting an end to gerrymandering.

#8 | Posted by danni at 2018-11-09 07:51 AM | Reply

Oh shut up, stop whining about local elections. Our state is red at heart, that's why the GOP is winning in NC. Let the Democrats start catering to the people first, give Republican voters a reason to vote Democrat and you will get Democrat wins. Stop coming into NC with a socialist/SJW message and you might win an election or two.

#9 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-09 08:22 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Why they let them use districts that have been ruled unconstitutional in this election I'll never understand. I love NC but our government is a sham. At least that piece of ---- Jesse Helms is dead and gone.

#10 | Posted by qcp at 2018-11-09 09:08 AM | Reply

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#9 hey idiot, your state is split 50/50. That's hardly "red at heart".

#11 | Posted by jpw at 2018-11-09 10:03 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

"Our state is red at heart, that's why the GOP is winning in NC"

Sorry, pal, but if you win 50.3% of the vote, and 77% of the seats, the reason is gerrymandering.
~Sincerely, Actual Math™

#12 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-09 10:05 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 4

"Our state is red at heart, that's why the GOP is winning in NC."

Your state leadership is racist at heart, that's why the GOP is wining in NC.

Thought that's awfully close to a distinction without a difference these days.

#13 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 10:30 AM | Reply

"Stop coming into NC with a socialist/SJW message and you might win an election or two." - #9 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-09 08:22 AM

Gosh, boazotoes, no "Republicans will win for the next 20 generations," "...liberal, progressive loonies wont win another election for a generation," "democrats will be losing for the next 20 years," "Democrats cant get a dog catcher elected for generations to come" predictions?

You might as well claim that Democrats were delusional if we think we were going to get the house..

You used to be so certain, boazotoes.

What happened?

#14 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-09 10:43 AM | Reply

"Our state is red at heart..." - #9 | Posted by boaz at 2018-11-09 08:22 AM

You have no idea about what you claim is your state.

Learn a little about North Carolina's history and you'll find out about people like Dean Smith, Governor Terry Sanford (a Democrat, responsible for North Carolina's Research Triangle and for making the state university system in North Carolina one of the best in the nation), John Coltrane, Nina Simone, Edward R. Murrow, Charles Kuralt, David Sedaris, Maya Angelou, Andy Griffith, Josephus Daniels, and Sam Ervin.

Have the NC state legislature draw fair legislative and Congressional districts and then tell us about how it is "red at heart."

Until then, educate yourself.

#15 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-09 11:06 AM | Reply

"Until then, educate yourself."

Are you kidding? Boaz can't even admit the difference between 50% and 77%.

#16 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-09 11:13 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

House member Zoe Lofgren proposed a Redistricting Reform Act in 2017 that would have required all states to use an independent redistricting commission, or be subject to a 3-judge panel deciding the outcome. It had 78 co-sponsors. Every single one was a Democrat.

#17 | Posted by JOE at 2018-11-09 11:16 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

Boaz believes in might makes right.

It's really just that simple.

White women in his state should be thanking him for not overpowering and raping them.

Plus, he carried a gun for Uncle Sam, so he's better than anyone who didn't.

He's entitled.

#18 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 11:26 AM | Reply

What, that each district has its own vote totals?

The Horror!

#2 | Posted by Rightocenter

The fact that the corruption of democratic will is funny to you says a lot about you.

#19 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-11-09 11:46 AM | Reply

#15

Don't forget Malcolm Holcombe.

www.youtube.com

#20 | Posted by uncle_meat at 2018-11-09 03:21 PM | Reply

If you want to stop gerrymandering in any State, do what California did and put it in the hands of a non-partisan commission.

#3 | Posted by Rightocenter

Easier than it sounds. Just made it to the ballot in Michigan despite the Republicans fighting it all the way. Oh and it passed. Since it was a constitutional amendment for the state they didn't couldn't just pass it into law like they did with a couple other ballot measures.

The problem with the other ballot measures is they did not go into effect yet and were not scheduled to until March. They fought to keep them off the ballot in court too but lost. This now gives them time to water them down or eliminate them. One was a $12/hour minimum wage. The other was mandatory sick leave - up to 6 days per year EARNED through work hours.

#21 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-11-09 04:33 PM | Reply

Oh shut up, stop whining about local elections. Our state is red at heart, that's why the GOP is winning in NC. Let the Democrats start catering to the people first, give Republican voters a reason to vote Democrat and you will get Democrat wins. Stop coming into NC with a socialist/SJW message and you might win an election or two.

#9 | Posted by boaz

Come on at least be honest, your state's racist at heart. The reason why the GOP won is OBVIOUS to anyone with half a brain. Statistically they should have won 7 seats not 10 of 13. Michigan wasn't much better but we just put a fix in for redistricting that ONLY the GOP fought. We have similar issues, I'm thinking of moving to RTP - you can bet I'll be happy to start/work on a non-partisan redistricting initiative if I do.

#22 | Posted by GalaxiePete at 2018-11-09 04:38 PM | Reply

Apparently congressional districts are drawn every 10 years by the then current administration consistent with census results. What else would explain why a Democratic governor would not insist that those districts be redrawn. Does the governor need the state legislator to draft laws calling for redistricting? If so, I understand why nothing has been done because the legislature is controlled by republicans.

As a general rule, one of the first tasks of any new governor should be to ensure her/his re-election by minimizing (eliminating if possible) the structural barriers that restrict the ability of her/his supporters to cast their vote. That means making sure that people aren't waiting hours to cast their vote; that voting machines are well maintained and in proper working order; that poll workers are well trained; that voters don't have to stand in the cold and rain to cast their vote, etc. To often, elected officials are content with the status quo because after all, that's what got them elected.

#23 | Posted by FedUpWithPols at 2018-11-10 06:29 AM | Reply

#23

For the past two years the GOP has held a veto proof majority in NC so having a democratic governor meant squat. They even tried putting in two constitutional amendments to strip the governor of what tiny sliver of power he had while they held a veto proof majority. Those thankfully failed.

Pete

If you move to RTP you will find that it is not like Boaz's NC (despite the fact that he works in RTP) The majority of the triangle is pretty liberal and fair minded. We do have the expected deep south roots but mass migration to the area has been welcomed and the resulting expansion if ideas has been good for all of us. Last weekend I worked on a married lesbian couples fireplace, they had a Leaf and a Prius. Just a few years ago they would have fled NC as fast as their Prius would go.

From WRAL yesterday "Just eight years ago, Republican candidates won 13 of 25 competitive partisan races on the 2010 Wake County ballot. This year, out of 32 competitive partisan races, GOP candidates won only two: a state Senate seat and a District Court bench. The few other Republicans who won were in nonpartisan races or were unopposed."

#24 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-11-10 07:10 AM | Reply

I'll be happy to start/work on a non-partisan redistricting initiative if I do.

We don't have ballot initiatives here, probably one of the things that bugs me the most about NC politics.

#25 | Posted by TaoWarrior at 2018-11-10 07:17 AM | Reply

This is in the Courts, which are finally finding mathematicians capable of fixing the problem.

#26 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-11-10 11:54 AM | Reply

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