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Thursday, November 08, 2018

When the thunder of gunfire broke through the revelry of a country music dance hall packed with young people kicking back on "college night," Thousand Oaks, California, added its name to a dark roster: The site of the 307th mass shooting in the U.S. this year.

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And an even grimmer statistic was marked: The 307th mass shooting took place on the 311th day of the year – an average of a deadly incident almost every day so far this year.

#1 | Posted by Hans at 2018-11-08 03:30 PM | Reply

Thanks, Second Amendment!

#2 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-08 03:37 PM | Reply

Only 307 out of 311?

I'm sure we can do better next year.

Let's go team!

#3 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-08 03:40 PM | Reply

311 by whose count?

Although there is no official standard for the casualty threshold that distinguishes a mass shooting from other violent crimes involving a firearm, a common approach in the literature is to adopt the FBI's criteria for a mass murderer and set a casualty threshold of four fatalities by firearm, excluding the offender or offenders (Duwe, ­Kovandzic, and Moody, 2002; Krouse and Richardson, 2015; Gius, 2015c; Fox and Fridel, 2016). However, this categorization is not without controversy. It does not capture incidents in which fewer than four victims were killed but additional victims were injured, and it does not include multiple-victim homicides in which fewer than four fatalities resulted from gunshots but additional fatalities occurred by other means. Additionally, the FBI classification of mass murderer was established primarily with the aim of clarifying criminal profiling procedures, not for the purpose of data collection or statistical ­analysis (Ressler, Burgess, and Douglas, 1988). Thus, many have chosen alternative definitions of casualty thresholds for mass shootings. For instance, Lott and Landes (2000) adopted the definition of two or more injured victims, the Gun Violence Archive (undated-a) defined mass shooting as an incident in which four or more victims (excluding the shooter) are injured or killed, and Mass Shooting Tracker (undated) set a criterion of four or more people injured or killed (including the shooter).

#4 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2018-11-08 04:13 PM | Reply

307...not 311

#5 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2018-11-08 04:14 PM | Reply

311 by whose count?

Gun Violence Archive, according to the article.

#6 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-08 04:17 PM | Reply

"311 by whose count?"

Not yours.

#7 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-08 05:52 PM | Reply

The Sane Society, led by a selfish clown with no sense of humor.

#8 | Posted by bayviking at 2018-11-08 07:22 PM | Reply | Funny: 1

I went a picked up a new backup gun today. I don't want to be a victim in one of these mass shootings.

#9 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-08 07:28 PM | Reply

I went a picked up a new backup gun today. I don't want to be a victim in one of these mass shootings.

#9 | Posted by byrdman

I am handing out guns to the refugees at the border so they can learn to be American right away.

I don't want any of them to be victims either so they can be available to vote Democratic.

#10 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-08 07:34 PM | Reply

311 by whose count?

#4 | Posted by MUSTANG

Not the CDC, the professionals who track whatever is killing americans, who were banned from tracking gun deaths by the NRA puppets in congress.

#11 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-11-08 07:48 PM | Reply

I went a picked up a new backup gun today. I don't want to be a victim in one of these mass shootings.

#9 | Posted by byrdman

Cool you just increased your chances of death by bullet.

#12 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-11-08 07:49 PM | Reply

Although there is no official standard for the casualty threshold that distinguishes a mass shooting from other violent crimes involving a firearm, a common approach in the literature is to adopt the FBI's criteria for a mass murderer and set a casualty threshold of four fatalities by firearm, excluding the offender or offenders (Duwe, ­Kovandzic, and Moody, 2002; Krouse and Richardson, 2015; Gius, 2015c; Fox and Fridel, 2016). However, this categorization is not without controversy. It does not capture incidents in which fewer than four victims were killed but additional victims were injured, and it does not include multiple-victim homicides in which fewer than four fatalities resulted from gunshots but additional fatalities occurred by other means. Additionally, the FBI classification of mass murderer was established primarily with the aim of clarifying criminal profiling procedures, not for the purpose of data collection or statistical ­analysis (Ressler, Burgess, and Douglas, 1988). Thus, many have chosen alternative definitions of casualty thresholds for mass shootings. For instance, Lott and Landes (2000) adopted the definition of two or more injured victims, the Gun Violence Archive (undated-a) defined mass shooting as an incident in which four or more victims (excluding the shooter) are injured or killed, and Mass Shooting Tracker (undated) set a criterion of four or more people injured or killed (including the shooter).

#4 | POSTED BY MUSTANG

No, Mustang is right.

If only 4 people are killed, it shouldn't count and we don't have to care!

We should only count the ones where at least 10 people are killed. Now there are only 15. And that's almost 0!

See? Now not so bad!

#13 | Posted by Sycophant at 2018-11-08 08:08 PM | Reply

"I went a picked up a new backup gun"

Gun ownership is a mental health disorder. In your case it's no different than hoarding.

#14 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-08 08:30 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

A lot of gun nuts have tiny wee wee'issues. Same can be said with owners of big trucks. I bet a lot of the alt-right nimrods fall into both catagorys.

#15 | Posted by aborted_monson at 2018-11-08 10:35 PM | Reply

So the only way to really show your manhood is to drive a tiny car and have no means of self defense? What a strange world some of you live in.

#16 | Posted by byrdman at 2018-11-08 10:39 PM | Reply

"and have no means of self defense?"

I was a bartender right out of college, and being trained once by an old timer. When both of us were behind the bar, he looked at me, leaned in, raised an eyebrow, and asked, "D'you know what your best defense is if someone comes at you?"

"My rapier-like wit?" I replied.

"No, NO...a Galliano bottle." He was not amused.

#17 | Posted by Danforth at 2018-11-08 10:46 PM | Reply

"I went a picked up a new backup gun"

What was wrong with your old one?

#18 | Posted by REDIAL at 2018-11-08 11:35 PM | Reply

"So the only way to really show your manhood is to drive a tiny car and have no means of self defense?"

Listen.

Normal people -- even women and children -- don't require an Emotional Support Weapon to venture into public without fear.

#19 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-08 11:53 PM | Reply

I went a picked up a new backup gun today. #9 | Posted by byrdman

Dude.... a properly cared for gun will last more than one lifetime. Just choose one that works for you and stick with it.

My favorite will always be a TOKAREV (Russian WW2) but it only carries 8 plus 1 rounds. And I needed a heavier bullet so I switched to 9mm and use a Beretta.

One more gun for long range. And one automatic shotgun. You don't need anything else.

You could argue I need a Kalashnikov to complete the range of guns for all possible scenarios but it's not like I am going to war.. so no. And an auto shotgun with an extended magazine is better in most cases than an assault rifle.

#20 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-11-09 12:08 AM | Reply

Byrdman....

www.youtube.com

#21 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-11-09 12:11 AM | Reply

What was wrong with your old one?

I just realized he said "backup" gun.

He needs to carry a small second pistol in a leg holster or belly band. Must live in a tough neighborhood or something.

Man, if you are so under threat.. always carry a knife (or a screwdriver). Even if you have two guns on you.

I carry one gun with a backup knife (karambit design). Often, just the knife.

If you carry a knife, try NOT to get a folder. Fighting knives are always non-folders.

#22 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-11-09 12:20 AM | Reply

Well now... Imma tell why this is such a silly argument...

1. In the U.S. statistically speaking you are twice as likely to shoot yourself to death than be shot to death by another person.
2. Deaths by suicide among middle aged white men has increased to such a degree it has lowered the overall life expectancy statistics of that segment of the population.
3. 7 out of 10 suicides are white males with firearms being the preferred method.
4. Gun sales is not being driven by more people choosing to buy firearms rather current gun owners are buying more guns.

For reals people... considering the number one type of death caused by firearms is suicide... and look at who is buying up all the guns... statistically the odds are in our favor.

I say... buy all the fekkin guns you want pig brains... seems to me you are doing it to yourselves and we need to just leave you it. By all means... let your sense of entitlement lead the way.

Like letting pigs shoot themselves in a barrel

#23 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-11-09 12:24 AM | Reply

"4. Gun sales is not being driven by more people choosing to buy firearms rather current gun owners are buying more guns."

This is the mental illness I was talking about.

Byrdman purchased his new gun in response to an emotional stress, in this case, ironically, a mass shooting.

#24 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-09 12:30 AM | Reply

Statistics show that owning guns increases:

Domestic violence... on the bright side that can help cut down on the breeding population of these idiots.
More guns more suicides.... hard to feel upset by that taste of self inflicted Darwin.
Owning a gun increases your chances of being shot... doh!
Most shooters are sane... they know exactly what they are doing... hence the purchase of a gun just in case they may someday need/want to shoot someone.
Mass shootings are a fraction of deaths by firearms... thing is they dazzle us.
To cap it off suicide rates by gun are rising while homicide rates are falling... seems we could save some energy and just ride this horse in the direction it is going.

We need to keep it in perspective... they are rotting from the inside.

They just haven't rotted enough for me to feel sorry for them yet.

#25 | Posted by RightisTrite at 2018-11-09 12:52 AM | Reply

"have no means of self defense?"

Arm yourself with a real estate agent if things are that bad in your 'hood.

#26 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-09 07:07 AM | Reply

The answer to these senseless tragedies can only be more guns for all.
-The NRA-

#27 | Posted by e1g1 at 2018-11-09 07:19 AM | Reply

My favorite will always be a TOKAREV (Russian WW2) but it only carries 8 plus 1 rounds. And I needed a heavier bullet so I switched to 9mm and use a Beretta. One more gun for long range. And one automatic shotgun. You don't need anything else.

I beg to differ, Mr Tremain: It's advantageous to keep a couple of disposable .22 Raven Arms revolvers or .32 snub revolvers to throw away after shooting a mob boss and his lackey in the head over a dinner of spaghetti and veal. Best kept behind an old-style toilet...you know, the one with the jiggling chain hanging down.

You might have to hang out in Italy and Sicily for a while until the dust settles down, but you should be OK.

#28 | Posted by madscientist at 2018-11-09 08:04 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

That... is actually an excellent point.

Granted I have never shot a mob boss or any lackey but no harm in trying someday.

And I simply love Italian food. (who doesn't?)

#29 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-11-09 08:33 AM | Reply

www.youtube.com

LOL... One of my all time favorite movies....

#30 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-11-09 08:37 AM | Reply

Here is the real deal.

youtu.be

#31 | Posted by J_Tremain at 2018-11-09 08:46 AM | Reply

Well of course people with those issues don't want to be liberals with all the body shaming you people do. This is one case where being born that way doesn't matter.

#32 | Posted by jdmeth at 2018-11-09 05:48 PM | Reply

Easy way to stop these shootings is just start arresting Trump fans.

#33 | Posted by Tor at 2018-11-09 06:10 PM | Reply

Well of course people with those issues don't want to be liberals with all the body shaming you people do. This is one case where being born that way doesn't matter.

#32 | Posted by jdmeth

Yeah we should tell fat people that there's nothing wrong with being unhealthy, just like trump tells his fans there's nothing wrong with being stupid.

#34 | Posted by SpeakSoftly at 2018-11-09 06:25 PM | Reply

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