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Blacks can be racist, as all people can be racist since it is human nature to distrust anyone not like you ...

That said, in America, African-Americans comprise ~16 percent of the population, which clearly shows that the preponderance of racism in America resides in the majority white population.

#1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-06 04:56 PM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

You know Bozo.

I hear if you stop talking about racism so much it will go away.

#2 | Posted by donnerboy at 2018-11-06 05:23 PM | Reply

It sounds like she was having the refund docked from her wages.

#3 | Posted by Scotty at 2018-11-06 06:28 PM | Reply

Is BOAZ still black?

#4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-11-06 08:03 PM | Reply

Blacks can be racist, as all people can be racist since it is human nature to distrust anyone not like you ...

You're describing prejudice or bigotry. Racism is the belief that one's race is superior to others. I don't think there are a lot of black people who actually think that blacks are inherently superior to whites. OTOH, it's not hard to find white people who think white people are inherently superior to everyone else and are willing to justify a system of oppression to stay in power even when they are a minority of the population (see South Africa pre-Mandela).

#5 | Posted by WhoDaMan at 2018-11-06 10:11 PM | Reply | Newsworthy 5

"Does this count?"

No, dumbass...

...it does not.

#6 | Posted by Angrydad at 2018-11-07 07:04 AM | Reply

#5 That is one definition. There is another that does not require one to believe their race is superior, and it applies here.

rac·ism

the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

#7 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2018-11-07 07:40 AM | Reply

Don't laugh at the suggestion that Blacks cannot be racist.

I have had more than one conversation with black friends who say that it is impossible for blacks to be racist .... ya know ... just because ...

#8 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-11-07 08:46 AM | Reply

I have had more than one conversation with black friends who say that it is impossible for blacks to be racist .... ya know ... just because ...

It's not "just because," even though the blacks you talk to may not be able to articulate the reason why. See post 5. Too many people conflate prejudice (something every human being is capable of) with racism, which is systemic where laws, norms and practices give unearned and outsized preference and influence to the group holding power. Racism isn't just personal, it's intentionally (and sometimes unintentionally) built into society's infrastructure.

Until the day comes that blacks can create anti-any-group-other-than-black laws, restrict other groups outside of blacks fair and equal access to commerce, politics, justice, and every other faction of life which is meaningful to one's quality of existence, blacks cannot be 'racist' in the systemic sense the word denotes.

#9 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-07 09:07 AM | Reply | Funny: 1

Cliff notes version: Racism = Power

Blacks do not have power in America and never will in the same sense and proportion that whites have used their power to unfairly limit and ------ the equal treatment of blacks. And frankly, no black person that I know has ever wanted to create a mirror-system of injustice just for the sake of revenge given the fantasy of ever having such an opportunity.

The oppressed seldom obsess with enslaving their oppressors, they are more concerned with escaping their own chains and living free.

#10 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-07 09:17 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

It's not "just because," even though the blacks you talk to may not be able to articulate the reason why. See post 5. Too many people conflate prejudice (something every human being is capable of) with racism, which is systemic where laws, norms and practices give unearned and outsized preference and influence to the group holding power. Racism isn't just personal, it's intentionally (and sometimes unintentionally) built into society's infrastructure.

#9 | POSTED BY TONYROMA AT 2018-11-07 09:07 AM | REPLY | FLAG

rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
"a program to combat racism"
synonyms: racial discrimination, racialism, racial prejudice, xenophobia, chauvinism, bigotry, casteism

MY WORDS FOLLOW

Blacks can be every bit racist as whites. Racism isn't exclusive to one race Tony.

#11 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-07 09:17 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

MY WORDS FOLLOW

In ignorance of mine:

...blacks cannot be 'racist' in the systemic sense the word denotes.

Systemic racism includes the complex array of antiblack practices, the unjustly gained political-economic power of whites, the continuing economic and other resource inequalities along racial lines, and the white racist ideologies and attitudes created to maintain and rationalize white privilege and power. Systemic here means that the core racist realities are manifested in each of society's major parts [...] each major part of U.S. society--the economy, politics, education, religion, the family--reflects the fundamental reality of systemic racism. www.thoughtco.com
One cannot have a conversation with those who refuse to listen. There is more than one definition to the word and I couldn't have made that any more clearer.

#12 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-07 09:26 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 2

italics off.

#13 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-07 09:26 AM | Reply

With all of this talk of systemic racism I guess we have to ignore things like Affirmative Action, race-based quotas (whereby Asians are systemically discriminated against for doing too well in school) and the fact that we recently had 8 years of a black president.

#14 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-07 09:30 AM | Reply | Funny: 1 | Newsworthy 1

#14

Those are things created to counter 200 years of systemic racism Jeff and has nothing to do with America electing a biracial President. Aren't race-based quotas illegal these days? You speak as though people decided to burden white Americans without any provocation whatsoever when those efforts would not have passed originally without white men seeing them as needed at that time. Such an intentional misrepresentation is the definition of white privilege and shows your true stripes.

I guess Obama's white mother didn't count in your mind, did she?

#15 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-07 09:39 AM | Reply

I guess we have to ignore things like Affirmative Action, race-based quotas (whereby Asians are systemically discriminated against for doing too well in school) and the fact that we recently had 8 years of a black president.

Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-07 09:30 AM | Reply

That's not racism that's giving minorities a fair shake. HUGE Difference.

#16 | Posted by LauraMohr at 2018-11-07 09:42 AM | Reply

#16 Excluding Asians is giving minorities a fair shake?

Define minority, then define fair.

#17 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2018-11-07 09:45 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

#16 Excluding Asians is giving minorities a fair shake?

Asians are not being "excluded" and I believe this dynamic is confined to the admission processes of elite/desirable US universities, not throughout the entire US societal infrastructure as is systemic racist practices.

While I have no desire to defend entrance practices of universities, it's hard to feel sorry for an individual Asian who is denied admission to Harvard and instead is "burdened" with attending Stanford, Duke or Georgetown instead. Many students apply at multiple schools and many of these schools know this and may base their decisions upon such dynamics, but that is just my view from the cheap seats.

There is a vast difference between still having a choice of multiple top-shelf colleges even if one is denied an opportunity at another compared with someone having no access at all.

#18 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-07 10:06 AM | Reply

#18 YEAH! Screw you and your awesome academic performance and work ethic, Asian guy! - Tony

"No access at all."

Are you saying a black kid with mediocre grades is denied the opportunity to attend college, PERIOD?

#19 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2018-11-07 10:13 AM | Reply

Are you saying a black kid with mediocre grades is denied the opportunity to attend college, PERIOD?

#19 | POSTED BY MUSTANG GT

If he can catch a football or dunk a basketball the opportunities are certainly there.

#20 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-07 10:15 AM | Reply

#19

I haven't said a single word about black students and certainly wasn't indicating that Asians should be screwed. I'm not wasting anymore time with such ignorant comments. Can you understand that each Asian student can only attend one university at a time and that each highly qualified Asian student usually has other elite schools to choose from if they are denied admittance to any one particular school?

I'm saying still having the opportunity to choose from other elite schools is different than not having such a choice, which appears to be how you're trying to frame your argument.

The larger point is the practices of elite universities is not the same as systemic racism or they would deny entrance to ALL Asians disproportionate to the percentages that they enroll. Why not challenge these schools to let more Asians in by eliminating white legacy students who have inferior credentials?

#21 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-07 10:30 AM | Reply

#21 I clearly cannot get it through your head that maintaining a color and gender blind, performance-based admissions policy is NOT systemic racism. In your worldview, any policy that does not provide a benefit to specific minorities is an example of systemic racism.

Should 'Bama be forced to gave lower size, weight, speed or skill requirements to make the football team just so women and small white beta males can make the team? Of course not...that would be stupid. That's what you're demanding from prestigious academic institutions: lower your standards so the less capable kids can make the team.

#22 | Posted by MUSTANG at 2018-11-07 10:48 AM | Reply

#21 I clearly cannot get it through your head that maintaining a color and gender blind, performance-based admissions policy is NOT systemic racism.

Show me where I've said that it was. We agree, they are not the same thing. While I have no desire to defend entrance practices of universities means that I DEFENDED them, not disagreed with their practices.

However, that is not how universities traditionally dealt with admissions. Therein lies the difference. And "performance based" is still a subjective criteria since there is no universally accepted standard defining it. Universities today consider things more than just academic performance and testing scores, while various schools and teachers grade differently making direct comparisons impossible. And schools are invested in maintaining certain balances of student types as a matter of their own existence and compliance with federal laws and mandates.

#23 | Posted by tonyroma at 2018-11-07 11:00 AM | Reply

Tony,

I was about to jump on your take until I saw this:

While I have no desire to defend entrance practices of universities

Those few words were critical to your #18. Good stuff.

#24 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-07 11:22 AM | Reply

That said, in America, African-Americans comprise ~16 percent of the population, which clearly shows that the preponderance of racism in America resides in the majority white population. - #1 | Posted by PinchALoaf at 2018-11-06 04:56 PM

[I]n America, women comprise >50 percent of the population, which clearly shows that the majority of sexism in America resides in the majority female population.
Precisely as true as yours.

#25 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-07 11:23 AM | Reply | Newsworthy 1

Is BOAZ still black? - #4 | Posted by oldwhiskeysour at 2018-11-06 08:03 PM

Greater than 1/1024th black, at least.

#26 | Posted by Avigdore at 2018-11-07 11:25 AM | Reply | Funny: 2

Not sure why Boaz is allowed to race-bait here. Save it for your racist dark web. It's been explained over and over to them.

#27 | Posted by BruceBanner at 2018-11-07 01:32 PM | Reply

Is BOAZ still black?

#4 | POSTED BY OLDWHISKEYSOUR

Depends if he's showered since Halloween or not.

#28 | Posted by IndianaJones at 2018-11-07 01:36 PM | Reply

I guess we have to ignore things like Affirmative Action, race-based quotas ... and the fact that we recently had 8 years of a black president.
#14 | POSTED BY JEFFJ

Are you implying Obama won because of Affirmative Action or race based quotas?

Or that, as the moron Scalia said, "Racism is dead in America!"

I don't understand what Obama's presidency has to do with affirmative action or race based quotas.

But there they all are. Lumped together.

#29 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-07 01:49 PM | Reply

Clown,

I wasn't suggesting Obama became president due to Affirmative Action.

#30 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-07 01:52 PM | Reply

Jeff,

I'm not sure what 8 years of Obama's presidency, where he received death threats daily and had birthers frothing at the mouth about him being a secret Kenyan Muslim, is supposed to mean.

Perhaps clarifying your #14 would be helpful.

#31 | Posted by ClownShack at 2018-11-07 02:00 PM | Reply

Loaf,

My point with #14 was that systemic racism hasn't stopped the practice of racial preferences and quotas in hiring and college admissions and it certainly didn't prevent the country from electing a black president.

It remains a problem and needs to be continually addressed, but tremendous strides have been made as well, especially over the past 5 decades.

#32 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-07 02:04 PM | Reply

Oops - #32 should have been addressed to Clownshack.

#33 | Posted by JeffJ at 2018-11-07 02:04 PM | Reply

"Are blacks racist? Does this count?"

Boaz counts.

#34 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-07 03:29 PM | Reply

"My point with #14 was that systemic racism hasn't stopped the practice of racial preferences and quotas in hiring and college admissions and it certainly didn't prevent the country from electing a black president."

Can you point to anything systemic racism has done?

If not, you should just go ahead and deny its existence.

What's it gonna be?

#35 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-07 03:31 PM | Reply

"Asians are not being "excluded" and I believe this dynamic is confined to the admission processes of elite/desirable US universities, not throughout the entire US societal infrastructure as is systemic racist practices."

You're willfuly ignorant about it then. Many of my Asian American friends in high school with similar or higher grades couldn't even get into public state university.

#36 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-11-07 04:12 PM | Reply

Anybody who brings up systemic racism to deflect from other types of racism (which is what the OP was talking about) is defending those other types of racism.

#37 | Posted by sentinel at 2018-11-07 04:15 PM | Reply

What "other types of racism" are those???

#38 | Posted by snoofy at 2018-11-07 04:28 PM | Reply

I love these kinds of discussions...especially when they are conducted by childish and impotent Americans.

You cry because life is not fair, that you are not beautiful, that things cannot always be sorted out with pre-adolescent concrete logic.

#39 | Posted by kudzu at 2018-11-08 10:39 AM | Reply

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